Time Nick Message 11:36 kados (I understand, it is overwhelming) 11:36 paul (probably due to overwhelming # of bugs declared...) 11:36 paul i must admit i don't take enough attention to bugzilla 11:36 paul thanks for reminding me so many of them were still waiting. 11:35 kados bye paul ... thanks for attending to bugs 11:35 paul bye, i'll leave in 15mn 11:34 owen Fine with me 11:34 kados ok with me 11:34 paul owen & kados : i'm reviweing a lot bugs, & see many times kados saying "owen, can you check..." but the bug owner is still not owen. do you agree if I change the Assigned to to owen, when he has to answer a question ? 11:16 kados which as it turns out is very challanging 11:16 kados and work on making sure that items,biblioitems.marc, and zebra can easily stay in synch 11:15 kados I've been doing a lot of import procedure testing 11:15 kados some things I'm sure ... 11:14 owen hi kados, what's new? 11:14 kados hey owen 11:13 paul lol 11:13 owen Now you're sounding like a /real/ businessman! 11:13 paul (do you think he will believe me ?) 11:12 paul hey, kados, I prefer Koha when it's broken, because then I can sell more services to my customers to fix the problems. 11:12 owen Tell him you like Koha better when it's broken ;) 11:11 owen Sounds accurate to me :) 11:11 paul (not sure of the word harassing) 11:11 paul fine, except that kados don't stop harassing me with koha bugs ;-) 11:10 owen Hi paul, how are you? 11:10 paul hello owen 10:08 kados but it is still critical (the fact that I received two separate bug reports in minutes about this proves it) 10:08 kados I agree it's not a blocker 10:07 kados and if something on the website seems silly, people perceive the organization to be silly 10:07 kados to a US organization, a website is a core part of the organization 10:06 kados I notice that US companies place more importance on a web presense than French, so perhaps this is part of the difference 10:06 kados so if someone sees that the software seems silly they think the organization is silly 10:06 paul - a blo is something that prevents the user from using the software whatever he does. and there is a risk of loss of datas. 10:06 kados US libraries don't care how often a problem occurs, just that it's a problem and that the software they use represents their organization 10:05 paul but classifying a bug needs this information ! 10:05 paul Honnestly, it's very very rare. 10:05 kados they don't care 10:05 paul maybe you could ask them how many times the problem can occur in real life. 10:03 kados I don't think so ... but maybe 10:03 paul (+ I bet it's here since 3 years or so !) 10:03 kados (this morning) 10:03 kados after announcing that 2.2.6 will be release soon 10:03 paul but it appears only in a specific situation, that very rarely happends and does not block anything 10:03 kados I have received two bug reports almost at the same time from two separate libraries 10:02 kados I'm 100% sure :-) 10:02 kados and every library in US and NZ and Switzerland will classify it as blocker :-) 10:02 paul every library in France (i'm 100% sure) will classify it as "minor" 10:01 kados as it makes Koha seem silly 10:01 kados no not blo, but definitely critical 10:00 paul (if you don't classify it as blo ;-) ) 10:00 kados ok, I"ll write it now 10:00 kados yep 10:00 paul yes, pls. 10:00 paul you get the page, but stay with 1-15. 10:00 kados shall I write a bug? 10:00 kados exactly 10:00 kados now click on next 10:00 paul and the 16 don't appear 09:59 paul done. 09:59 paul sorry, yes, adv search 09:59 kados now click on page 15 09:59 kados advanced search ... ahh 09:59 paul you select "livre" in the itemtype list ? 09:59 kados hmmm ... I get no results 09:58 paul 9000 results 09:58 paul main >> itemtype=livre 09:57 kados (more than 15 pages) 09:57 kados what is a good search term that has several thousand results? 09:57 paul yes ;-) 09:57 paul http://o5.bureau.paulpoulain.com/cgi-bin/koha/opac-main.pl 09:56 kados paul: do you have a rel_2_2 OPAC somewhere you can test something ? 09:15 thd paul: Before you release, 2.2.6, I have a one line fix for MARC-8 conversion code in bulkmarcimport.pl from an undocumented behaviour of MARC::Charset. 09:02 thd I should try telepathy 09:01 paul lol 09:01 thd paul: I often have trouble communicating with kados in any language 09:00 paul kados : about 1128 (add authority) : it seems to work for default templates, but not for npl one. I let you & owen investigate 09:00 thd kados: which language do you prefer for writing? 08:57 thd paul: I often write to people in English and ask them to write me back in French if that is better for them 08:56 paul lol 08:56 thd I think the answer is too have the English people learn French 08:30 kados OOSS (Organization for Open Source Software) Study 08:30 kados http://www.ithaka.org/strategic-services/oss 08:28 kados sounds good 08:27 paul ok, and what about changing the count of libraries using Koha as I suggested in koha-devel ? 08:27 kados ie, a list of known bugs should be listed in release notes IMO 08:27 kados ok, as long as they are acknowledged in the release notes I'm OK with it 08:26 paul and with we can't solve all of them, then, release 2.2.6 and 2.2.7 2 weeks after if needed. 08:26 kados 1140 needs to be tested as well 08:26 paul i'll take care of what I can, but I think libraries waited too much for this release. 08:25 kados IMO 08:25 kados before the release 08:25 kados or else hidden in the template 08:25 kados 1118, 1117 need to be fixed too 08:23 kados 984 should probably be fixed before release also as it can cause some very frustrating problems 08:22 kados (I will 1146) 08:21 kados 1146 too 08:21 kados 1159 needs to be investigated 08:20 kados 1128 is not fixed I think 08:20 kados some may be obsolete 08:20 kados several blockers still 08:19 paul RC3 i mean. Most bugs are fixed or am I wrong somewhere ? 08:19 paul (I hope with a last minute hack from hdl : when clicking on + to duplicate a field, a number of duplicate to do will popup) 08:18 kados RC2 has many bugs IIRC 08:18 kados hmmm ... even with outstanding bugs? 08:18 paul I install 2.2.6RC2 to IPT in 2 hours. and if in 2-3 days everything is fine, I release official 2.2.6 08:17 paul ok, fine. 08:17 kados paul: I am writing descriptions for them right now as the classes start next week 08:17 kados paul: they are two projects that Ohio Students may work on this year 08:00 paul (but I agree I could have spoken of it before creating it, shame on me) 07:59 paul thus, a public, french channel. 07:59 paul and, as they don't want to speak french on this channel when there is a lot of english speaking ppl, they speak on a private channel, which is the worst solution I think 07:59 paul kados : koha-fr channel is interesting because some ppl (like SAN) prefer to speak french & speak english with pains. 07:58 paul could you explain a little bit more what are googleMapsKoha & GoogleSpellCheckKoha ??? 07:57 paul hello kados. 07:09 hdl busy. 07:09 kados how goes it? 07:09 kados hi hdl 07:09 hdl hi kados 07:08 hdl He may have.... French was quite widespread in Europe at that time. But I wonder if he was upper-class enough to learn it. 07:06 kados paul: why can't you just speak french in #koha? 07:06 kados hi all 07:06 kados shaekspeare spoke french? :-) 07:05 hdl paul 03:58 paul join /#koha-fr 03:55 toins Broadcast Message to french : there is #koha-fr channel on this server... ;-) 03:43 toins btoumi: i'm here 03:43 btoumi ? 03:43 btoumi toins: are u around 02:03 mason amen 01:49 qiqo god bless us all and koha 01:49 qiqo mason: chris hdl i really appreciate your help 01:49 qiqo ei gtg folk 01:44 mason ok, ive got to head off for a bit 01:43 mason good work qiqo :) 01:40 mason better, http://203.87.241.3:8080/intranet-tmpl/barcodes/new.pdf 01:38 qiqo i mean, the pdf is blank 01:38 chris that 01:38 chris those modules should get tested by the installer .. so we'll have to fix 01:38 mason so it is :) 01:38 qiqo because i couldnt print anything 01:38 mason http://203.87.241.3:8080/cgi-bin/koha/barcodes/label-print-pdf.pl 01:38 qiqo i just have to adjust my database 01:38 chris yay 01:38 qiqo alright mine is running 01:36 mason s 01:36 mason ye 01:36 chris make sense? 01:36 chris so it cant see it 01:35 chris then with sudo ran as root 01:35 chris cos u exported it as mason 01:35 mason ta 01:35 chris yes 01:35 mason ? 01:35 mason ctrl-d or 'exit' 01:35 mason when sudo runs as root, it doesnt get my export vars? 01:35 chris remember to ctrl-d when u finish mason 01:34 mason ah, click 01:34 mason chris: what does sudo bash do? 01:33 chris ) 01:33 chris (ignoring the C4:: ones 01:33 qiqo alright 01:33 mason cool , thats where i got it from too :) 01:33 chris and make sure you have them all 01:33 chris id take a look at all the modules in label-print-pdf.pl at the top 01:33 qiqo im currently install thru MCPAN 01:32 qiqo i think so 01:32 chris so qiqo, you are missing PDF::Reuse.pm ? 01:32 chris then perl -I 01:32 chris then export ... 01:32 chris do sudo bash 01:32 chris for you mason 01:32 chris right that wont work 01:32 mason and ive ' export KOHA_CONF=/etc/koha-hlt.conf' 01:31 mason yep, 01:31 chris running as sudo? 01:31 mason Can't call method "prepare" on an undefined value at /usr/local/hlt/intranet/modules/C4/Labels.pm line 59. 01:31 mason DBI connect(':','',...) failed: Access denied for user: 'root@localhost' (Using password: NO) at /usr/local/hlt/intranet/modules/C4/Context.pm line 411 01:31 mason but then this :( 01:31 qiqo PDF/Reuse.pm 01:31 mason yep 01:30 chris sudo perl -I /usr/local/koha/intranet/modules label-print-pdf.pl 01:28 mason oops 01:28 qiqo Can't locate C4/Auth.pm 01:27 qiqo ok 01:26 mason sudo perl ./label-print-pdf.pl 01:26 mason cd /usr/local/koha/intranet/cgi-bin/barcodes 01:25 mason oops 01:25 mason . 01:25 mason cd /usr/local/hlt/intranet/cgi-bin/barcodes 01:25 mason u can test the 'label-print-pdf.pl' script from your linux shell too 01:23 mason ok, give me a moment... 01:22 qiqo yup 01:22 mason http://203.87.241.3:8080/cgi-bin/koha/barcodes/label-home.pl 01:20 mason ah thanks ;) 01:20 qiqo kohaadmin 112485 01:20 qiqo yup 01:19 mason do you want me to log in? 01:19 qiqo http://203.87.241.3:8080/cgi-bin/koha/mainpage.pl 01:19 mason drwxr-xr-x 2 www-data www-data 72 Aug 31 18:18 ./barcodes/ 01:19 mason yes 01:17 mason let me check... 01:16 qiqo www-data 01:16 mason check the permissions on the dir 01:16 mason check the permissions onthe dir 01:15 qiqo then? 01:13 mason you might need to make that dir 01:13 mason 'label-print-pdf.pl' writes to a dir called '/usr/local/koha/intranet/htdocs/intranet-tmpl/barcodes' 01:12 qiqo yup 01:12 mason qiqo, the script that makes the pdf file is called 'label-print-pdf.pl' 01:12 qiqo what about that dir? 01:11 qiqo its blank 01:11 chris yeah might be that dir eh mason 01:11 qiqo already checked that 01:11 chris if its 2 check /var/log/apache2/error.log (or whatever its called) 01:11 qiqo 2 01:10 mason could be the sneaky 'barcode' directory 01:10 chris apache 2 or 1.3? 01:10 mason ah, ok 01:10 qiqo but i get an error 500 when i preview my labels 01:09 qiqo yup 01:09 mason you are getting no error in your /usr/local/koha/log/koha-error_log ? 01:07 qiqo hdl,, what shall i do next. i consulted the logs, but they dont give me anything 01:07 mason ok, thats good 01:07 qiqo i fixed the barcode issue 01:07 qiqo labels only 01:07 qiqo nope 01:06 mason ahhh, not the barcodes. 01:06 qiqo i only need to generate the spine labels 01:06 mason oh, ok 01:06 qiqo then i will manually cut 01:06 qiqo but i should not have any problem since i will print these to sticker paper 01:05 mason and... 01:05 mason http://www.gaylordmart.com/adblock.asp?abid=12055&sid=CCAF631BB8A2454C99DBE33062B97B&search_by=number&search_for=8511 01:03 mason gaylord 8511 01:03 mason just googling... 01:03 qiqo what type of paper? 01:02 mason at the moment the spine labels have only been written for 2 types of paper 01:02 mason qiqo: the other thing is... 01:01 mason cool 01:01 qiqo yup 01:01 mason do you have the 2 labels tables in your koha DB? 01:00 mason for the spine labels 01:00 qiqo ok... 01:00 mason so it may have to be on monday 00:59 qiqo so.. i saw the database,, and the items are at the labels table 00:59 mason but, i am flying to australa tomorrow :( 00:59 qiqo ok.. 00:59 mason qiqo: i can give you a hand to set it up 00:58 thd qiqo: well you are much closer 00:56 qiqo im loosing hope... 00:49 qiqo ok 00:48 thd not yet, I just read the error 00:47 qiqo ok,, have you installed GD::Barcode 00:47 qiqo uhuh,,, 00:46 thd qiqo: now I have a 500 error for preview 00:43 qiqo ill try to install required perl modules in the header of label-print.pl 00:41 qiqo oops 00:40 qiqo and here are my results when i add those i searched: Label Number Summary Item Type Delete 1 Asian Development Bank annual report 1999 : : : 53 Delete 2 Gender indicators of developing asian and pacific countries /: : 00:39 qiqo my database consists of 114 biblio records 00:37 thd qiqo: I cannot even add items because I think I do not have any holdings fields in many of my test records 00:36 qiqo thd: qiqo: I think I need to add some holdings information to my items <-- what does this means? 00:36 qiqo Premature end of script headers: label-print-pdf.pl, referer: http://server:8080/cgi-bin/koha/barcodes/label-manager.pl?op=add&itemnumber=20 00:35 thd qiqo: I think I need to add some holdings information to my items 00:35 qiqo however when i click preview,, i still get 500.. well ill consult the logs again 00:34 qiqo then i add the items 00:34 qiqo yes 00:34 thd qiqo: can you get the results to appear? 00:34 thd qiqo: can get the results to appear? 00:33 qiqo hurrah 00:33 qiqo but i can now search for the catalogue 00:32 qiqo geez i really cant 00:30 thd qiqo: if you can see your items you have an advantage 00:28 qiqo ok ill try to install Date::Calc apache is searching for that module 00:26 qiqo i could see my items 00:24 qiqo ok 00:24 qiqo Premature end of script headers: label-item-search.pl, referer: http://server:8080/cgi-bin/koha/barcodes/label-manager.pl 00:24 thd qiqo try ISBN only 00:22 qiqo yup 00:22 thd did you try labels only 00:21 qiqo however, it resulted to: Labels to be Printed, Printing will start on row 1, printing will use 0 sheets, currently 0 rows spare on sheet 0 00:20 qiqo yes 00:20 thd qiqo did you have values in those fields? 00:19 qiqo item call no,.. classification 00:17 thd qiqo: what boxes did you check before adding an item? 00:16 qiqo Premature end of script headers: label-item-search.pl, referer: http://server:8080/cgi-bin/koha/barcodes/label-manager.pl?itemtype=1&isbn=1&dcn=1&classif=1&itemcallnumber=1&papertype=gaylord-8511&barcodetype=Code39&printingtype=both&startrow=1&guidebox=1&op=save_conf 00:15 qiqo however. i still get error 500 when clicking the add item or create PDF 00:15 thd well that is an improvement 00:15 qiqo yes 00:15 thd qiqo: so can you connect to label printing? 00:14 qiqo the barcode interface is there 00:13 qiqo yes i do have some data 00:12 thd qiqo: did you have 2.2.5 configured and populated with some data? 00:12 qiqo done. with the symlinks, apache and db update 00:11 qiqo i only have my 2.2.5 bakcup here 00:11 qiqo yes 00:09 thd qiqo: so you dropped it? 00:08 qiqo yup but i didnt manage to back it up 00:08 thd qiqo: did you have a 2.2.6 database previously? 00:07 thd qiqo: yes 00:07 qiqo so i need to run the updatedatabase script right? 00:06 qiqo i only have 2.2.5 database/// 00:06 thd qiqo: you should use the same database you had with 2.2.6 or a copy of that to avoid extra work 00:02 qiqo wait ill check,, i am still downloading the cvs 00:02 thd qiqo: If you apply the symlinks creation script, do you have a the correct path to label_home.pl? 00:01 qiqo :) 00:01 qiqo its 12:55 PM here 23:56 thd yes 23:55 qiqo US? 23:55 qiqo oohh 23:54 thd qiqo: it is 12.55 AM 23:44 qiqo what time is it there? 23:43 qiqo finished installing 2.2.5 23:42 qiqo so checked out 2_2 am i doing the right thing? 23:40 thd yes, with 4 versions being maintained 23:39 qiqo cvs is real huge 23:38 qiqo ok 23:36 thd you would have to I suppose if Koha was working at all after adding symlinks 23:35 qiqo opac and intranet 23:34 qiqo yup 23:33 thd qiqo: do you have Options +FollowSymLinks for <Directory "/usr/local/koha/intranet/cgi-bin"> in your koha-httpd.conf ? 23:30 qiqo 22251220 23:29 qiqo so will i just copy those tmpl files to the cvs working folfer 23:29 thd qiqo: If you can see the form then at least you would have progress 23:29 thd qiqo: it should but I do have a problem for missing data 23:28 qiqo e 23:28 qiqo only 2.2.6RC2 has thos 23:27 qiqo ohh.. btw, the cvs does not include the tmpl files refered by labe-home.pl 23:27 qiqo ok ill try 23:26 thd qiqo: then update from CVS 23:25 thd qiqo try installing 2.2.5 and applying the symlink instructions to a 2.2.5 installation 23:25 qiqo uhuh 23:24 thd qiqo: but the last changes there were for 2.2.5 23:23 qiqo this is the one that i used yester day 23:23 thd qiqo: yes 23:22 qiqo is the instruction found at kohadocs? 23:22 thd qiqo: maybe something is different about 2.2.6 directories 23:21 thd qiqo: pierrick updated the CVS update instructions and I assumed he fixed those problems 23:21 qiqo ahh alright' 23:20 thd qiqo: the problem is that changes between versions confused where the base directory was located over time 23:19 thd qiqo: I had to make changes to where symlinks were placed for an earlier version of that method when applying it to 2.2.5 23:17 qiqo so i gave up 23:17 qiqo i had that problem with the cvs yesterday 23:17 qiqo actually im using 2.2.6RC2 right now 23:16 thd qiqo: maybe there is still an error somewhere in the scripts given in that method for how to use the symlinks 23:15 qiqo with the symlinks and stuff 23:14 qiqo yup 23:14 qiqo aw sorry 23:14 qiqo 000000000116 23:14 thd qiqo: are you using the update Koha method from kohadocs.org? 23:14 qiqo tried to make a folder "koha" on the cgi-bin but i get a 404 23:12 qiqo ermmm 23:11 thd qiqo: some magic 23:10 qiqo hows that /koha/label-home? 23:07 qiqo http://koha.liblime.com/cgi-bin/koha/label-home.pl 23:05 thd qiqo: what URL does the LibLime demo have? 23:02 qiqo Not Found 23:00 thd qiqo: try removing /barcodes from that 22:59 qiqo http://server:8080/cgi-bin/koha/barcodes/label-home.pl 22:58 thd qiqo: what URL does your browser show for label printing? 22:56 qiqo yes it does 22:55 thd ls -l /usr/local/koha/barcodes or whatever the directory is on your system 22:53 thd qiqo: does the www-data group or whatever group you might otherwise have for your Apache user have read and execute permissions for every file in the barcodes directory? 22:50 qiqo debian stable 22:49 thd qiqo: on what operating system do you have Koha installed? 22:49 qiqo hows that? 22:49 qiqo huh? 22:48 thd qiqo: oh then I suspect you have a permissions problem for your Koha installation 22:48 qiqo therefore i cant see those boxes 22:47 qiqo i dont get into the label-home 22:47 thd qiqo: what boxes did you check in the label printing form? 22:46 qiqo i also had to install HTML::Template 22:46 qiqo so i switched to npl.. 22:46 qiqo the templates for spine label printing only exists for npl 22:45 qiqo ok.. 22:44 thd qiqo: http://koha.org/cgi-bin/logs.pl?user=&channel=&action=&text=&user-ddl=&channel-ddl=&action-ddl=&startdate=30+minutes+ago&enddate=now&saveas=&save=save 22:43 qiqo !Basics 22:42 qiqo !help 22:42 qiqo how? 22:42 thd qiqo read the #koha log for the past few minutes 22:41 qiqo sorry got dc 22:40 thd qiqo: at least I have some useful error messages but that does not help you 22:40 thd qiqo: I am missing values needed to test properly 22:39 thd qiqo: see if you can obtain the attention of kados enough to give you some direction for the code he wrote when he is awake 22:27 thd qiqo: check that the Koha user or Apache user can read all needed files 22:25 thd qiqo: the premature end of script headers could be a file permissions problem 22:24 thd qiqo: maybe there is a problem if some values are empty 22:21 thd qiqo: you need to actually dump some data values but I have never designed with that module 22:20 qiqo still the same nothing happens 22:19 qiqo ok 22:18 thd qiqo: you could uncomment use Data::Dumper; and try to trace the variables 22:17 qiqo ok 22:15 thd qiqo: I do not believe the RC displays so that is likely what it is 22:14 qiqo i thought it was just 2.2.6RC2 22:14 qiqo is 2.2.6 available? 22:12 qiqo 2.2.6 22:11 thd qiqo: what version of koha is reported as running on the LibLime system where this is working? 22:10 qiqo before i fixed the barcode i already had this problem 22:10 qiqo nope 22:10 thd qiqo: maybe when you fixed barcode printing you created a problem for the labels 22:09 thd qiqo: kados is working on it 22:09 thd qiqo: no that is the problem 22:08 qiqo 2.4 is available? 22:08 qiqo ermm ok.. so why does liblime's label-spine printing working? 22:07 thd qiqo: I had actually thought there was a problem with the labels but kados was planning to fix it after he had finished his current migration from 2.2X to 2.4 22:06 qiqo geez its a bit frustrating, there are no comments in the file, i just solved my barcode problem because i read the comments 22:06 qiqo yup 22:05 thd and nothing else? 22:05 qiqo still that erro 22:05 qiqo [Thu Aug 31 03:05:13 2006] [error] [client 192.168.0.2] Premature end of script headers: label-home.pl 22:04 thd qiqo: then run the script again and check the error log again for possible source of problems 22:01 thd qiqo: add a use warnings; line at line 4 21:57 qiqo yes its at the barcodes directory on cvs 21:56 qiqo barcodes i think 21:53 thd what directory? 21:53 thd qiqo: where is it located in CVS? 21:53 qiqo and it doesnt have notes 21:52 qiqo then nothing is commented out 21:52 qiqo lines 21:52 qiqo the script only contains 55 linues 21:52 qiqo how is that 21:51 qiqo er,, 21:48 thd qiqo: try turning on use strict and warnings in the Perl file. They are most likely commented out. 21:46 thd qiqo: that has too many possible sources of error 21:45 qiqo nope. nothing 21:45 thd qiqo: do you have any errors before that? 21:44 qiqo and also with the cvs 21:44 qiqo its in 2.2.6RC2 21:44 qiqo [Thu Aug 31 01:16:52 2006] [error] [client 192.168.0.2] Premature end of script headers: label-home.pl 21:44 thd qiqo: what does the error log show? 21:43 thd qiqo: do you mean you find it in rel_2_2 but it is not working? 21:43 qiqo i really dont know what the problem is 21:43 qiqo yes 21:42 thd qiqo: do you mean spine labels? 21:42 qiqo i always encounter a 500 error 21:41 qiqo i was wondering why the labeling feature is not available in 2.2.6RC2 21:41 thd hello 21:41 qiqo hi thd 21:33 thd hello qiqo 21:20 qiqo helloo 19:54 qiqo anybody home? 19:53 qiqo hi 19:30 thd kados: have you sorted all you commas and semicolons?