| Time |
S |
Nick |
Message |
| 18:56 |
|
hdl |
kados ? |
| 18:56 |
|
dewey |
kados is becoming a true Perl Monger... |
| 19:39 |
|
thd |
Is kados here? |
| 21:30 |
|
thd |
kados: are you there? |
| 21:30 |
|
thd |
kados: I found a small bug |
| 00:35 |
|
Strait |
good morning everyone |
| 02:12 |
|
Strait |
strange... |
| 02:12 |
|
Strait |
i can' |
| 02:12 |
|
paul_away |
hello all |
| 02:12 |
|
Strait |
t seem to find a place to define the itemtype of an item?? |
| 02:12 |
|
ToinS |
hi all ! |
| 02:12 |
|
Strait |
hello paul |
| 02:18 |
|
hdl |
hi |
| 02:21 |
|
mason |
strait: its in the modbibitem.pl script, from moredetail.pl |
| 02:22 |
|
Strait |
hmm, how do i get there from the user interface? |
| 02:23 |
|
mason |
from here -> /cgi-bin/koha/detail.pl?bib=23740 |
| 02:23 |
|
mason |
click the barcode of an item, which takes you to here |
| 02:23 |
|
mason |
/cgi-bin/koha/moredetail.pl?type=&item=23020&bib=23740&bi=23740 |
| 02:24 |
|
mason |
then under the 'GROUP' record, click the 'modify' button |
| 02:25 |
|
mason |
which takes you to here -> /cgi-bin/koha/modbibitem.pl |
| 02:25 |
|
Strait |
hold on, i'll change the language ;) |
| 02:25 |
|
mason |
lol :) |
| 02:25 |
|
Strait |
i've been working on the finnish translation |
| 02:25 |
|
Strait |
it's not quite finished yet |
| 02:26 |
|
Strait |
so the system speaks gibberish |
| 02:26 |
|
mason |
wow! |
| 02:27 |
|
Strait |
i have Group Number: 1 |
| 02:27 |
|
Strait |
but no modify button |
| 02:28 |
|
mason |
on moredetail.pl ? |
| 02:29 |
|
Strait |
yep |
| 02:29 |
|
Strait |
i had npl template |
| 02:29 |
|
mason |
ah, let me change to that |
| 02:30 |
|
Strait |
i see the group record on default template |
| 02:30 |
|
Strait |
but modify button does nothing :( |
| 02:32 |
|
mason |
ok, ive got it |
| 02:32 |
|
mason |
do a search... |
| 02:32 |
|
mason |
/cgi-bin/koha/search.marc/search.pl |
| 02:33 |
|
mason |
select an item, which takes you here -> /cgi-bin/koha/MARCdetail.pl?bib=23740 |
| 02:34 |
|
Strait |
right |
| 02:34 |
|
mason |
click 'edit items', which goes here -> /cgi-bin/koha/acqui.simple/additem.pl?bibid=1221527 |
| 02:34 |
|
Strait |
yep |
| 02:34 |
|
mason |
the click 'edit bib record', which goes here -> /cgi-bin/koha/acqui.simple/addbiblio.pl?oldbiblionumber=23740 |
| 02:35 |
|
mason |
the clck 'page 6'... |
| 02:35 |
|
Strait |
tab 6 |
| 02:35 |
|
mason |
yup |
| 02:35 |
|
Strait |
i don't have that :( |
| 02:35 |
|
Strait |
0-5 |
| 02:36 |
|
mason |
doh, |
| 02:36 |
|
Strait |
what fields do i need there? |
| 02:36 |
|
mason |
what ver of koha u got? |
| 02:36 |
|
mason |
Page 6 |
| 02:36 |
|
Strait |
2.2.5 |
| 02:36 |
|
mason |
942 - Biblioitem information |
| 02:36 |
|
mason |
a Institution code |
| 02:36 |
|
mason |
c item type |
| 02:36 |
|
mason |
k dewey |
| 02:36 |
|
Strait |
942? |
| 02:37 |
|
Strait |
is that marc21 or unimarc? |
| 02:37 |
|
mason |
this koha is on 2.2.2 |
| 02:37 |
|
Strait |
or some koha-specific non-marc field? |
| 02:37 |
|
mason |
no, i thinks its plain old marc21 |
| 02:38 |
|
Strait |
not according to http://www.loc.gov/marc/bibliographic/nlr/ |
| 02:38 |
|
Strait |
marc21 doesn't have that |
| 02:38 |
|
mason |
from sys pref's -> 'marcflavour MARC21' |
| 02:38 |
|
Strait |
koha doesn though |
| 02:39 |
|
Strait |
i am using marc21 already |
| 02:39 |
|
Strait |
koha has that field i see |
| 02:39 |
|
Strait |
managed on tab 5 XD |
| 02:40 |
|
Strait |
ok, so it's tab 5 for me, not 6 |
| 02:40 |
|
Strait |
found it now |
| 02:41 |
|
Strait |
thanks a lot :) |
| 02:41 |
|
mason |
hee hee , great :) |
| 02:41 |
|
Strait |
hmm, maybe 9xx fields are some library/systemspecfic things in marc21 |
| 02:42 |
|
Strait |
since the "official" marc21 doesn't seem to have them at all |
| 02:42 |
|
Strait |
specific even... |
| 02:44 |
|
mason |
yes, it could well be |
| 03:25 |
|
slef |
mornings-- |
| 03:26 |
|
slef |
house mods-- |
| 05:39 |
|
Strait |
do you have somekind of recommendations on how to deal with shortcuts on translations? |
| 05:39 |
|
Strait |
I'm translating NPL templates |
| 05:39 |
|
Strait |
they have these handy shortcuts for the most commonly used functions |
| 05:40 |
|
Strait |
the problem is that in different languages the shortcuts don't make any sense |
| 05:40 |
|
Strait |
for example: Quick Search = Pikahaku |
| 05:40 |
|
Strait |
in finnish |
| 05:40 |
|
Strait |
no Q in that... |
| 05:40 |
|
Strait |
so right now the ui shows QPikahaku :D |
| 05:40 |
|
slef |
some sites I know use numbers and arbitrary letters for shortcuts |
| 05:41 |
|
slef |
so I guess I'd label it as Pikahaku [Q] |
| 05:41 |
|
slef |
or similar |
| 05:41 |
|
slef |
like in a menu |
| 05:41 |
|
Strait |
then the changes will have to be made to the templates? |
| 05:41 |
|
slef |
or Q: Pikahaku |
| 05:41 |
|
Strait |
that might be a good way |
| 05:41 |
|
Strait |
the switching languages wouldn't change the shortcuts |
| 05:42 |
|
slef |
I'd expect this would be a known problem in UI translation |
| 05:42 |
|
Strait |
+n |
| 05:42 |
|
slef |
but I've not really read up on it |
| 05:42 |
|
slef |
I think I've done all of one and a half translations so far |
| 05:42 |
|
slef |
and both of those were command line programs |
| 05:42 |
|
slef |
where, sadly, the option flags don't change |
| 05:42 |
|
slef |
so not all make sense |
| 05:43 |
|
Strait |
in commandline programs it's good in my opinion that flags stay |
| 05:43 |
|
Strait |
even if they don't make sense |
| 05:43 |
|
slef |
stuff like "--expire mortigxu daton" in the help messages :-/ |
| 05:43 |
|
slef |
erm, igxi |
| 05:44 |
|
slef |
help messages seem to always be infinitive |
| 05:44 |
|
slef |
nfi why |
| 05:45 |
|
Strait |
i'm not sure about dm-interfaces |
| 05:45 |
|
Strait |
in them it would be reasonable to expect that shortcuts follow the language of the ui |
| 05:45 |
|
Strait |
but then they would change from language version to another |
| 05:46 |
|
slef |
dm? |
| 05:46 |
|
Strait |
direct manipulation |
| 05:46 |
|
Strait |
gui-like thingys |
| 05:47 |
|
Strait |
which is what koha is |
| 05:47 |
|
slef |
I'm just looking at a few other projects |
| 05:47 |
|
Strait |
of course it has little to do with graphics ;) |
| 05:48 |
|
slef |
The welsh KDE/Gnomers seem to keep the characters the same |
| 05:48 |
|
slef |
http://www.kyfieithu.co.uk/remember.php?lg=en |
| 05:48 |
|
Strait |
in finland they have traditionally been translated in the menus |
| 05:48 |
|
Strait |
but for example undo is always CTRL+Z |
| 05:49 |
|
Strait |
save CTRL+S |
| 05:49 |
|
Strait |
cut CTRL+X |
| 05:49 |
|
Strait |
and so on |
| 05:49 |
|
Strait |
but in the menus the underlined letter is language specifis |
| 05:49 |
|
Strait |
s=c |
| 05:52 |
|
Strait |
I could change the shortcuts directly the the templates |
| 05:52 |
|
Strait |
to the |
| 05:52 |
|
Strait |
(god i make so many mistakes in english :D) |
| 05:52 |
|
slef |
KDE seems to have no policy on it |
| 05:53 |
|
Strait |
i'll discuss it with the others in finnish koha-project |
| 05:53 |
|
Strait |
we have default templates translated |
| 05:53 |
|
Strait |
but npl seems better for out purposes |
| 05:53 |
|
Strait |
our :D |
| 05:54 |
|
Strait |
npl-templates are better at dealing with varying length of the words in translations |
| 05:55 |
|
Strait |
we had big problems with that using the default templates |
| 08:29 |
|
paul |
hello pierrick |
| 08:29 |
|
pierrick |
hello paul ;-) |
| 09:24 |
|
kyle |
has anyone seen this message in their koha-access_log: |
| 09:24 |
|
kyle |
194.144.127.250 - - [24/Jun/2006:16:10:20 -0400] "GET /w00tw00t.at.ISC.SANS.DFind:) HTTP/1.1" 400 226 |
| 09:33 |
|
kados |
looks like a hacker attack attempt |
| 09:33 |
|
kados |
or just some goofy bot :-) |
| 10:25 |
|
owen |
kados: you around? |
| 11:35 |
|
kados |
owen: am now |
| 11:35 |
|
kados |
owen: what's shaking? |
| 11:35 |
|
owen |
Hey, how's it going? |
| 11:35 |
|
paul_away |
and i'm no more ;-) |
| 11:35 |
|
kados |
not bad |
| 11:35 |
|
kados |
hey paul_away |
| 11:35 |
|
kados |
have a good evening |
| 11:35 |
|
paul_away |
bye guys, i'll will be here tomorrow |
| 11:36 |
|
paul_away |
IPT tested 2.2.6 today, reported me some minor problems. |
| 11:36 |
|
kados |
cool |
| 11:36 |
|
paul_away |
i plan to fix them tomorrow |
| 11:36 |
|
kados |
with marc21 |
| 11:36 |
|
kados |
and found some probs with normal acquisitions |
| 11:36 |
|
kados |
at least with npl tempaltes (maybe default too) |
| 11:37 |
|
paul_away |
however, i will be away for 1 week for my personnal move (home move), from thursday to next tuesday |
| 11:37 |
|
kados |
right |
| 11:37 |
|
kados |
(have a good move :-)) |
| 11:41 |
|
owen |
so kados, what are you seeing with Acquisitions? |
| 11:41 |
|
owen |
I noticed something this morning and I don't know if it's a bug or not |
