| Time |
S |
Nick |
Message |
| 13:40 |
|
thd |
kados: bulkmarcimport.pl |
| 13:42 |
|
kados |
thd: can you send me an example of a record where that happens? |
| 13:42 |
|
thd |
yes |
| 13:42 |
|
kados |
thd: i doubt I'll have time today (working hard on getting the plugin finished) |
| 13:43 |
|
thd |
kados: plugin? |
| 13:43 |
|
thd |
kados: what plugin? |
| 13:45 |
|
kados |
thd: the perl-zoom plugin |
| 13:58 |
|
thd |
kados: Failure to assume the data might include quotations is an almost universal mistake in the world. |
| 13:58 |
|
kados |
thd: no time right now :-) |
| 13:59 |
|
thd |
kados: no problem, if you have an idea of where to look when you have time that will be plenty of time |
| 14:00 |
|
thd |
kados: meanwhile, I will not look but start working again on automated download of MARC records full of quotations |
| 14:05 |
|
thd |
kados: sorry, nevermind my application is the first culprit :) |
| 14:06 |
|
thd |
kados: I had only fixed one aspect of the problem on my Z39.50 client |
| 14:07 |
|
thd |
kados: I did say that it was an almost universal mistake :) |
| 14:07 |
|
kados |
thd: so Koha handles it fine then? |
| 14:07 |
|
kados |
thd: (I think it does) |
| 14:07 |
|
thd |
kados: we do not know yet |
| 14:08 |
|
thd |
kados: I have not supplied correct data yet |
| 14:08 |
|
thd |
kados: although, you may know that does and I may remember that it does from other records |
| 14:10 |
|
kados |
I'm pretty sure it does ;-) |
| 14:11 |
|
thd |
kados: yes, koha does at least that without bugs :) |
| 16:22 |
|
mason |
. |
| 16:22 |
|
chris |
wrong channel mason? |
| 21:21 |
|
Jo |
Hey Russ |
| 02:33 |
|
hdl |
helo |
| 03:52 |
|
osmoze |
hello |
| 03:53 |
|
osmoze |
paul ? are you here ? |
| 03:53 |
|
paul |
yep |
| 03:53 |
|
paul |
(mais bien occupé avec mon stagiaire qui vient d'arriver ce matin) |
| 03:53 |
|
osmoze |
bon, je te laisse alors, je te contact demain ou dans l aprem |
| 03:53 |
|
osmoze |
:) |
| 03:53 |
|
paul |
oki |
| 03:53 |
|
osmoze |
et bonjour au stagiaire ^^ |
| 04:00 |
|
paul |
welcome to my student : |
| 04:00 |
|
paul |
antoine |
| 04:01 |
|
pierrick |
hello antoine :-) |
| 04:01 |
|
ToinS |
hello ! |
| 04:02 |
|
osmoze |
hello from tarn & garonne antoine :) |
| 04:05 |
|
paul |
hdl around ? |
| 04:16 |
|
paul |
pierrick : seems we are back to links instead of forms ;-) |
| 04:41 |
|
pierrick |
paul, yes, that's a satisfying direction :-) |
| 04:49 |
|
paul |
pierrick : vu ton commit. Merci pour ce boulot pas bien rigolo mais fort utile !!! |
| 04:54 |
|
pierrick |
paul, je continue sur ce type de boulot aujourd'hui, tu as une préférence sur une page en particulier avant qu'hdl ait corrigé le bug de aqbookfund ? |
| 04:54 |
|
paul |
non, pas de préférence |
| 04:54 |
|
pierrick |
(je souhaite reprendre cette page pour la simplifier et la rendre plus puissante) |
| 04:55 |
|
paul |
(tjs pas de consigne de ta direction ?) |
| 04:55 |
|
pierrick |
(pour le moment, ils sont très occupés ailleurs, donc non) |
| 04:55 |
|
paul |
bon, profitons en pour faire du travail de fond alors, c'est très bien comme ca ! |
| 04:56 |
|
paul |
(et en plus, ca te plonge dans le code. du coup, le jour ou tu devras ajouter des features, ca sera plus rapide !) |
| 04:58 |
|
pierrick |
(oui, c'est pas si inintéressant qu'il n'y paraît ;-) |
| 05:24 |
|
pierrick |
paul, les authorités n'ont pas été faites en PROG, je m'en occupe ou c'est volontairement laissé de côté ? |
| 05:24 |
|
paul |
c'est un oubli. |
| 05:24 |
|
paul |
tu peux les faire. |
| 05:24 |
|
pierrick |
OK, je m'en occupe dans ce cas |
| 07:53 |
|
paul |
hdl : |
| 07:53 |
|
hdl |
yes |
| 07:54 |
|
paul |
jette un oeil sur les commits d'owen sur rel_2_2 autour du 9 mars dernier. |
| 07:54 |
|
paul |
il a fait 2-3 trucs autour de "branchname" justement |
| 07:56 |
|
hdl |
paul : Il a aussi commité les possibilité de photos de lecteurs. |
| 07:56 |
|
paul |
yes, j'ai déjà validé ca pour les templates defauls |
| 07:56 |
|
paul |
(commit il y a quelques minutes) |
| 07:57 |
|
paul |
je suis en train d'écluser les 80 commits que j'avais en retard sur la 2.2 ! |
| 07:57 |
|
paul |
(reste encore 40...) |
| 07:58 |
|
hdl |
Bon courage. |
| 09:01 |
|
kados |
morning all |
| 09:01 |
|
paul |
hello kados. |
| 09:01 |
|
kados |
paul: can you /mode +o kados |
| 09:01 |
|
ToinS |
hello |
| 09:01 |
|
paul |
we were waiting for you |
| 09:02 |
|
kados |
excellent |
| 09:02 |
|
pierrick |
hi kados |
| 09:02 |
|
kados |
paul: Mar 28 Bruno Marmol ( 264) [Koha] patches for opac-searc |
| 09:02 |
|
kados |
paul: have you looked at Bruno's patch? |
| 09:02 |
|
kados |
paul: (I'm cleaning out my inbox :-)) |
| 09:02 |
|
paul |
where can I find it's patch ? |
| 09:02 |
|
kados |
pierrick: morning |
| 09:02 |
|
kados |
paul: attached to that email |
| 09:03 |
|
kados |
w00t |
| 09:03 |
|
paul |
on koha-devel ? |
| 09:03 |
|
paul |
no, on koha |
| 09:03 |
|
paul |
gotcha (I must admit I don't read koha ml...) |
| 09:05 |
|
kados |
I was planning to announce the Koha Zebra Plugin is ready today: |
| 09:05 |
|
kados |
http://www.kohadocs.org/Instal[…]Zebra_plugin.html |
| 09:05 |
|
kados |
unfortunately, chris and I had many many problems getting it working, most of which are due to re-naming of variables in HEAD |
| 09:06 |
|
kados |
yes ... I suspect so |
| 09:06 |
|
paul |
+ ToinS is the student that will work with me on new MARC editor. |
| 09:06 |
|
paul |
http://i8.bureau.paulpoulain.c[…]mple/addbiblio.pl |
| 09:06 |
|
paul |
(test/test as login should work) |
| 09:07 |
|
paul |
it's with npl templates, but seems to fail |
| 09:07 |
|
kados |
access denied |
| 09:07 |
|
kados |
paul: you must run latest versions of MARC::Record (from SF), MARC::File::XML, MARC::Charset |
| 09:08 |
|
paul |
I know, I have them, for sure. |
| 09:08 |
|
kados |
paul: (also, have you tried the latest MARC::File::XML with UNIMARC support? ) |
| 09:08 |
|
paul |
my problem are on some of the new features : |
| 09:08 |
|
kados |
paul: Mike Rylander asked me to follow up and see if they worked for you |
| 09:08 |
|
paul |
strange that you get a access denied... |
| 09:08 |
|
kados |
test test |
| 09:09 |
|
paul |
works perfectly for me from my server (with lynx) |
| 09:09 |
|
kados |
strange |
| 09:09 |
|
paul |
ah, ok. |
| 09:10 |
|
paul |
not an apache error, but a permission one. |
| 09:11 |
|
kados |
right |
| 09:12 |
|
paul |
should be fixed |
| 09:12 |
|
kados |
ok, I see |
| 09:12 |
|
kados |
so what isn't working? |
| 09:13 |
|
kados |
ahh ... subfield repeatability looks broken |
| 09:13 |
|
kados |
reordering seems to work |
| 09:13 |
|
paul |
a little bit : |
| 09:13 |
|
paul |
what is strange is that the subfield is empty sometimes. |
| 09:13 |
|
kados |
very strange |
| 09:13 |
|
paul |
look in 200 |
| 09:14 |
|
kados |
in 200 all subfields are visible |
| 09:14 |
|
paul |
if you + on 200$d, you get a new 200$d, but without the d |
| 09:14 |
|
kados |
right |
| 09:14 |
|
kados |
that is very strange |
| 09:14 |
|
paul |
the 200$e is "closed", but to get this, you must put 1 into hidden. not 2, as explained |
| 09:14 |
|
paul |
in marc_subfield_structure |
| 09:14 |
|
kados |
hmmm ... in the help file you mean? |
| 09:15 |
|
paul |
no, the text in the template |
| 09:15 |
|
kados |
the description is probably incorrect |
| 09:15 |
|
kados |
use the help file |
| 09:15 |
|
kados |
I 100% agree we need a new system in 3.0 |
| 09:15 |
|
paul |
ah, right. So the description is false in the template itself |
| 09:15 |
|
paul |
(it speaks only of 0,1,2,3) |
| 09:15 |
|
kados |
this was just a way to temporarily fix 2.2 so the editor could be both standard marc and usable |
| 09:16 |
|
kados |
yes, description is false, it should refer to the help file |
| 09:16 |
|
paul |
i'll fix this for default immediatly. |
| 09:17 |
|
paul |
I don't understand what Editor & Collapsed are used for |
| 09:17 |
|
paul |
aren't they the same thing ? |
| 09:17 |
|
kados |
no |
| 09:17 |
|
kados |
Editor says 'does it appear by default in the editor' |
| 09:17 |
|
kados |
Collapsed says _how_ it appears in the editor |
| 09:18 |
|
paul |
does not appear => is it different from "in tab ignore" ? |
| 09:18 |
|
kados |
yes |
| 09:18 |
|
kados |
because if it exists in a record you're opening it will appear |
| 09:18 |
|
kados |
the visibility settings mainly apply to creating new records |
| 09:19 |
|
kados |
with the 2.2.6 record editor my goal was: |
| 09:19 |
|
kados |
1. no data loss |
| 09:19 |
|
kados |
2. abilitity to create standard MARC records |
| 09:19 |
|
kados |
3. fast enough to actually use with standard MARC framework |
| 09:19 |
|
paul |
(description ok, fixed in both npl & default templates) |
| 09:19 |
|
kados |
(thx) |
| 09:20 |
|
paul |
OK, I understand now. |
| 09:20 |
|
kados |
so we need to figure out why your subfield codes don't appear |
| 09:20 |
|
paul |
I'll investigate. |
| 09:20 |
|
kados |
the 'cloneSubfield' function handles that |
| 09:21 |
|
paul |
could we speak a little with ToinS of the 3.0 expert marc editor ? |
| 09:21 |
|
kados |
sure |
| 09:21 |
|
kados |
hi ToinS |
| 09:21 |
|
ToinS |
hi |
| 09:21 |
|
paul |
he is 2m far from me. |
| 09:21 |
|
paul |
discovering XUL today. |
| 09:21 |
|
kados |
excellent :-) |
| 09:22 |
|
paul |
on wednesday you told me he could DL ouoss projects ? |
| 09:22 |
|
paul |
do you confirm ? |
| 09:22 |
|
kados |
yes, check the wiki for exact links |
| 09:22 |
|
paul |
and do you think we should open a "KohaMarcEditor" project on koha-gnu cvs. |
| 09:22 |
|
kados |
it's been updated |
| 09:22 |
|
paul |
(I've them) |
| 09:22 |
|
paul |
do you think it will be a good start for him ? |
| 09:22 |
|
kados |
I have registered the domain 'opencataloger.org/com' |
| 09:23 |
|
paul |
let's go for opencataloger project on koha cvs, even if I think it could be a good idea to have KohaSomething as it's public name. |
| 09:23 |
|
kados |
ok |
| 09:23 |
|
paul |
(shame that KopenCataloger could refer on a KDE project...) |
| 09:24 |
|
kados |
but Evergreen is also interested in opencataloger |
| 09:24 |
|
kados |
PINES guys |
| 09:24 |
|
kados |
and they have one XUL expert |
| 09:24 |
|
kados |
(their entire staff client is in XUL, it's very impressive) |
| 09:24 |
|
paul |
so, back to the strategy : how should ToinS start it's work ? |
| 09:24 |
|
paul |
* from scratch ? |
| 09:24 |
|
kados |
well, first step is understanding what our goal is |
| 09:24 |
|
kados |
http://team42.liblime.com/ |
| 09:25 |
|
kados |
that should provide some basic functions |
| 09:25 |
|
kados |
search, retrieve, edit |
| 09:25 |
|
kados |
and the XML framework it uses is quite nice |
| 09:25 |
|
kados |
XML + XSLT |
| 09:25 |
|
kados |
uses XMLHttpRequest to grab the data |
| 09:25 |
|
kados |
it could use an XUL interface |
| 09:26 |
|
paul |
from a user point of view, opencataloger should : |
| 09:26 |
|
paul |
* let the user search in various z3950 servers |
| 09:26 |
|
kados |
paul: pause |
| 09:26 |
|
paul |
* pick results and store them somewhere |
| 09:26 |
|
paul |
ok |
| 09:26 |
|
kados |
paul: can you and ToinS join irc.freenode.net #gapines ? |
| 09:26 |
|
paul |
ok |
| 09:27 |
|
ToinS |
ok |
| 11:59 |
|
Tom |
Hi tseting IRC |
