Time Nick Message 13:40 thd kados: bulkmarcimport.pl 13:42 kados thd: can you send me an example of a record where that happens? 13:42 thd yes 13:42 kados thd: i doubt I'll have time today (working hard on getting the plugin finished) 13:43 thd kados: plugin? 13:43 thd kados: what plugin? 13:45 kados thd: the perl-zoom plugin 13:58 thd kados: Failure to assume the data might include quotations is an almost universal mistake in the world. 13:58 kados thd: no time right now :-) 13:59 thd kados: no problem, if you have an idea of where to look when you have time that will be plenty of time 14:00 thd kados: meanwhile, I will not look but start working again on automated download of MARC records full of quotations 14:05 thd kados: sorry, nevermind my application is the first culprit :) 14:06 thd kados: I had only fixed one aspect of the problem on my Z39.50 client 14:07 thd kados: I did say that it was an almost universal mistake :) 14:07 kados thd: so Koha handles it fine then? 14:07 kados thd: (I think it does) 14:07 thd kados: we do not know yet 14:08 thd kados: I have not supplied correct data yet 14:08 thd kados: although, you may know that does and I may remember that it does from other records 14:10 kados I'm pretty sure it does ;-) 14:11 thd kados: yes, koha does at least that without bugs :) 16:22 mason . 16:22 chris wrong channel mason? 21:21 Jo Hey Russ 02:33 hdl helo 03:52 osmoze hello 03:53 osmoze paul ? are you here ? 03:53 paul yep 03:53 paul (mais bien occupé avec mon stagiaire qui vient d'arriver ce matin) 03:53 osmoze bon, je te laisse alors, je te contact demain ou dans l aprem 03:53 osmoze :) 03:53 paul oki 03:53 osmoze et bonjour au stagiaire ^^ 04:00 paul welcome to my student : 04:00 paul antoine 04:01 pierrick hello antoine :-) 04:01 ToinS hello ! 04:02 osmoze hello from tarn & garonne antoine :) 04:05 paul hdl around ? 04:16 paul pierrick : seems we are back to links instead of forms ;-) 04:41 pierrick paul, yes, that's a satisfying direction :-) 04:49 paul pierrick : vu ton commit. Merci pour ce boulot pas bien rigolo mais fort utile !!! 04:54 pierrick paul, je continue sur ce type de boulot aujourd'hui, tu as une préférence sur une page en particulier avant qu'hdl ait corrigé le bug de aqbookfund ? 04:54 paul non, pas de préférence 04:54 pierrick (je souhaite reprendre cette page pour la simplifier et la rendre plus puissante) 04:55 paul (tjs pas de consigne de ta direction ?) 04:55 pierrick (pour le moment, ils sont très occupés ailleurs, donc non) 04:55 paul bon, profitons en pour faire du travail de fond alors, c'est très bien comme ca ! 04:56 paul (et en plus, ca te plonge dans le code. du coup, le jour ou tu devras ajouter des features, ca sera plus rapide !) 04:58 pierrick (oui, c'est pas si inintéressant qu'il n'y paraît ;-) 05:24 pierrick paul, les authorités n'ont pas été faites en PROG, je m'en occupe ou c'est volontairement laissé de côté ? 05:24 paul c'est un oubli. 05:24 paul tu peux les faire. 05:24 pierrick OK, je m'en occupe dans ce cas 07:53 paul hdl : 07:53 hdl yes 07:54 paul jette un oeil sur les commits d'owen sur rel_2_2 autour du 9 mars dernier. 07:54 paul il a fait 2-3 trucs autour de "branchname" justement 07:56 hdl paul : Il a aussi commité les possibilité de photos de lecteurs. 07:56 paul yes, j'ai déjà validé ca pour les templates defauls 07:56 paul (commit il y a quelques minutes) 07:57 paul je suis en train d'écluser les 80 commits que j'avais en retard sur la 2.2 ! 07:57 paul (reste encore 40...) 07:58 hdl Bon courage. 09:01 kados morning all 09:01 paul hello kados. 09:01 kados paul: can you /mode +o kados 09:01 ToinS hello 09:01 paul we were waiting for you 09:02 kados excellent 09:02 pierrick hi kados 09:02 kados paul: Mar 28 Bruno Marmol ( 264) [Koha] patches for opac-searc 09:02 kados paul: have you looked at Bruno's patch? 09:02 kados paul: (I'm cleaning out my inbox :-)) 09:02 paul where can I find it's patch ? 09:02 kados pierrick: morning 09:02 kados paul: attached to that email 09:03 kados w00t 09:03 paul on koha-devel ? 09:03 paul no, on koha 09:03 paul gotcha (I must admit I don't read koha ml...) 09:05 kados I was planning to announce the Koha Zebra Plugin is ready today: 09:05 kados http://www.kohadocs.org/Installing_Zebra_plugin.html 09:05 kados unfortunately, chris and I had many many problems getting it working, most of which are due to re-naming of variables in HEAD 09:06 kados yes ... I suspect so 09:06 paul + ToinS is the student that will work with me on new MARC editor. 09:06 paul http://i8.bureau.paulpoulain.com/cgi-bin/koha/acqui.simple/addbiblio.pl 09:06 paul (test/test as login should work) 09:07 paul it's with npl templates, but seems to fail 09:07 kados access denied 09:07 kados paul: you must run latest versions of MARC::Record (from SF), MARC::File::XML, MARC::Charset 09:08 paul I know, I have them, for sure. 09:08 kados paul: (also, have you tried the latest MARC::File::XML with UNIMARC support? ) 09:08 paul my problem are on some of the new features : 09:08 kados paul: Mike Rylander asked me to follow up and see if they worked for you 09:08 paul strange that you get a access denied... 09:08 kados test test 09:09 paul works perfectly for me from my server (with lynx) 09:09 kados strange 09:09 paul ah, ok. 09:10 paul not an apache error, but a permission one. 09:11 kados right 09:12 paul should be fixed 09:12 kados ok, I see 09:12 kados so what isn't working? 09:13 kados ahh ... subfield repeatability looks broken 09:13 kados reordering seems to work 09:13 paul a little bit : 09:13 paul what is strange is that the subfield is empty sometimes. 09:13 kados very strange 09:13 paul look in 200 09:14 kados in 200 all subfields are visible 09:14 paul if you + on 200$d, you get a new 200$d, but without the d 09:14 kados right 09:14 kados that is very strange 09:14 paul the 200$e is "closed", but to get this, you must put 1 into hidden. not 2, as explained 09:14 paul in marc_subfield_structure 09:14 kados hmmm ... in the help file you mean? 09:15 paul no, the text in the template 09:15 kados the description is probably incorrect 09:15 kados use the help file 09:15 kados I 100% agree we need a new system in 3.0 09:15 paul ah, right. So the description is false in the template itself 09:15 paul (it speaks only of 0,1,2,3) 09:15 kados this was just a way to temporarily fix 2.2 so the editor could be both standard marc and usable 09:16 kados yes, description is false, it should refer to the help file 09:16 paul i'll fix this for default immediatly. 09:17 paul I don't understand what Editor & Collapsed are used for 09:17 paul aren't they the same thing ? 09:17 kados no 09:17 kados Editor says 'does it appear by default in the editor' 09:17 kados Collapsed says _how_ it appears in the editor 09:18 paul does not appear => is it different from "in tab ignore" ? 09:18 kados yes 09:18 kados because if it exists in a record you're opening it will appear 09:18 kados the visibility settings mainly apply to creating new records 09:19 kados with the 2.2.6 record editor my goal was: 09:19 kados 1. no data loss 09:19 kados 2. abilitity to create standard MARC records 09:19 kados 3. fast enough to actually use with standard MARC framework 09:19 paul (description ok, fixed in both npl & default templates) 09:19 kados (thx) 09:20 paul OK, I understand now. 09:20 kados so we need to figure out why your subfield codes don't appear 09:20 paul I'll investigate. 09:20 kados the 'cloneSubfield' function handles that 09:21 paul could we speak a little with ToinS of the 3.0 expert marc editor ? 09:21 kados sure 09:21 kados hi ToinS 09:21 ToinS hi 09:21 paul he is 2m far from me. 09:21 paul discovering XUL today. 09:21 kados excellent :-) 09:22 paul on wednesday you told me he could DL ouoss projects ? 09:22 paul do you confirm ? 09:22 kados yes, check the wiki for exact links 09:22 paul and do you think we should open a "KohaMarcEditor" project on koha-gnu cvs. 09:22 kados it's been updated 09:22 paul (I've them) 09:22 paul do you think it will be a good start for him ? 09:22 kados I have registered the domain 'opencataloger.org/com' 09:23 paul let's go for opencataloger project on koha cvs, even if I think it could be a good idea to have KohaSomething as it's public name. 09:23 kados ok 09:23 paul (shame that KopenCataloger could refer on a KDE project...) 09:24 kados but Evergreen is also interested in opencataloger 09:24 kados PINES guys 09:24 kados and they have one XUL expert 09:24 kados (their entire staff client is in XUL, it's very impressive) 09:24 paul so, back to the strategy : how should ToinS start it's work ? 09:24 paul * from scratch ? 09:24 kados well, first step is understanding what our goal is 09:24 kados http://team42.liblime.com/ 09:25 kados that should provide some basic functions 09:25 kados search, retrieve, edit 09:25 kados and the XML framework it uses is quite nice 09:25 kados XML + XSLT 09:25 kados uses XMLHttpRequest to grab the data 09:25 kados it could use an XUL interface 09:26 paul from a user point of view, opencataloger should : 09:26 paul * let the user search in various z3950 servers 09:26 kados paul: pause 09:26 paul * pick results and store them somewhere 09:26 paul ok 09:26 kados paul: can you and ToinS join irc.freenode.net #gapines ? 09:26 paul ok 09:27 ToinS ok 11:59 Tom Hi tseting IRC