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* ashimema |
roles up sleeves and hits 23.05.x hard |
| 07:06 |
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dcook |
ashimema: I'd say it can't hit back but I think we know better... |
| 07:06 |
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ashimema |
haha |
| 07:27 |
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aw-bib[m] |
hello! yesterday I fiddled with adding new sru servers to koha during baseinstall. for this I added the services to the z3950.yml file. doing this I noticed that sru_options seems to be ignored, similarly checked and rank values. I'll most likely solve this via sql, but I wonder if this points to a deeper issue. (maybe it went unnoticed till now as the only sru-server in the defaults is LoC which doesn't need any parameters.) |
| 07:27 |
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ashimema |
Now we're only a month behind master.. will continue later |
| 07:28 |
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ashimema |
Pass |
| 07:39 |
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Joubu |
aw-bib[m]: how ignored? I am seeing that z3950.bnf.fr has rank=2 in DB |
| 07:40 |
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Joubu |
which is the value set in installer/data/mysql/en/optional/sample_z3950_servers.yml |
| 07:41 |
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aw-bib[m] |
I tried to add two new servers on the line of the LoC sru service to the yml. this is processed fine but the parameters don't end up in the database. I don't really get it I admit. |
| 07:43 |
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aw-bib[m] |
I added the two new servers just below the lx2.loc.gov sru server and besides those parameters they end up in the ui and work as expected. I am just not able to autocheck those. but you are right, it works for z3950.bnf.fr |
| 07:44 |
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aw-bib[m] |
the block in question I use is... (full message at <https://matrix.org/_matrix/med[…]QyLcRQKRQDjannJxB>) |
| 07:44 |
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aw-bib[m] |
if I set checked to 1 I get the same reuslt. and sru_options doesn't end up in the db at all. |
| 07:45 |
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Joubu |
IIRC you need the same rows per "block" |
| 07:46 |
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Joubu |
you can see 3 "z3950servers", each has different columns |
| 07:46 |
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aw-bib[m] |
ah! so if I have more parameters this should go to it's own block. |
| 07:46 |
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Joubu |
here you are adding sru_options that is not in lx2.loc.gov |
| 07:46 |
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Joubu |
it's just a guess, worth a try! |
| 07:47 |
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aw-bib[m] |
this also explains why I have 3 z3950servers in the first place. |
| 07:47 |
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aw-bib[m] |
I'll give it a try. InstallKoha takes just a few seconds :) |
| 07:47 |
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Joubu |
if you are using ktd you can edit the yml and call `reset_all` that is an alias to drop/create and populate the db with the sample data |
| 07:49 |
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aw-bib[m] |
I am not (yet) into docker as cait mentioned that for the prods it is preferable to run on bare metal. so right now bare metal it is. but actually we'd prefer to dockerize at some point. I might come back to you on that. ;) |
| 07:55 |
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aw-bib[m] |
Joubu: your guess was perfectly right. tanks! mystery solved. :) |
| 07:59 |
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cait |
ashimema++ |
| 08:00 |
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cait |
I had said package installation is still the recommended method :) |
| 08:03 |
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aw-bib[m] |
right. so I stick with the recommended stuff for the time being. a few boxes will be pretty far away and I fear I have a pretty challenging time frame as well. so avoid all even potential issues is a thing of it's own. (and right now I can assume at least a debian server everywhere...) |
| 08:03 |
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ashimema |
Development and production at certainly different use cases.. ktd is certainly a development tool |
| 08:06 |
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* ashimema |
needs coffee |
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cait |
ashimema: can you bring me some too? |
| 08:37 |
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krimsonkharne[m] |
next meeting? |
| 08:37 |
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wahanui |
next meeting is, like, https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]Next_IRC_meetings |
| 08:38 |
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PedroAmorim[m] |
o/ |
| 09:09 |
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* cait |
never got that coffee... |
| 09:14 |
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* Joubu |
sends cait some mate |
| 09:14 |
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cait |
heh thanks! |
| 09:39 |
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aude_c[m] |
Hello! Does anyone know if there are still problems with accounts on the Koha wiki? A librarian is telling me they're trying to reset their password but they're not receiving anything. |
| 09:39 |
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cait |
it shoudl be ok, was the last status I had |
| 09:40 |
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cait |
I haven't heard from other proboems, spam folder and all were checked? |
| 09:43 |
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aude_c[m] |
Thanks! |
| 09:43 |
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aude_c[m] |
I assume so. As it is a long while since they last logged in, they also wondered whether their account had been deleted in a tidy-up. |
| 09:49 |
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LibraryHU[m] |
how to place hold on books in koha? |
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Annelisterman[m] |
Library HU: https://koha-community.org/man[…]lation.html#holds |
| 09:51 |
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cait |
i can check for the account if you want to send me a PM |
| 09:51 |
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ashimema |
grr.. I'm going to remove that '(development)' there.. |
| 09:51 |
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ashimema |
always bugs me |
| 09:52 |
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cait |
which development? |
| 09:52 |
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aude_c[m] |
Sorry, it's on my to-do list too |
| 09:52 |
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ashimema |
in the manual link above |
| 09:52 |
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ashimema |
it's part of the title |
| 09:52 |
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aude_c[m] |
(Noticed it earlier this week) |
| 09:52 |
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ashimema |
23.05 isn't in development any more 😜 |
| 09:52 |
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cait |
ah ok, I don't see that |
| 09:52 |
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cait |
I am more worried still about having an LTS version with no German manual :( |
| 09:53 |
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cait |
we would translate, but no po files to have... |
| 09:53 |
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aude_c[m] |
:( |
| 09:53 |
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ashimema |
hugs aude_x |
| 09:53 |
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ashimema |
* hugs aude_c |
| 09:53 |
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aude_c[m] |
I know. Talked about this with the French translators too. |
| 09:54 |
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cait |
I have sent a lot of emails to bgkriegel, I don't know how to proceed |
| 09:54 |
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aude_c[m] |
We need to chat with the Translation manager apparently... or just decide a completely different way of dealing with the Manual translations. |
| 09:54 |
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cait |
and I don't know if we have any documantation on how to make the po fils for manuals? |
| 09:54 |
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cait |
I don't think a different way is feasable really, different translation platform for all our thigns, yes |
| 09:55 |
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aude_c[m] |
For the Manual side, I have this https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]lating_the_manual |
| 09:55 |
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* ashimema |
pushed removal of 'development' for you aude_c |
| 09:55 |
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aude_c[m] |
Thank you ashimema ! |
| 09:56 |
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aude_c[m] |
cait: would it help if... we only had one version of the Manual in the future? |
| 09:56 |
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aude_c[m] |
The one manual idea is on the agenda for this afternoon's Docs meeting |
| 09:56 |
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cait |
what do you mean by one manual? |
| 09:56 |
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aude_c[m] |
(and will need to be discussed further, but we need to start somewhere) |
| 09:56 |
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aude_c[m] |
stop having one manual version per Koha version |
| 09:56 |
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ashimema |
instead of a manual per koha version supported |
| 09:57 |
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cait |
I don't think ti would help really, people will get confused |
| 09:57 |
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aude_c[m] |
just have one same manual for all |
| 09:57 |
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ashimema |
one manual with tags inside it to highlight changes in versions |
| 09:57 |
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cait |
the screenshots won't match |
| 09:57 |
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cait |
in my opinion people don't abstract really well |
| 09:57 |
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aude_c[m] |
so only one manual to maintain, which would always be the most up-to-date |
| 09:57 |
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ashimema |
I'm not against either approach |
| 09:57 |
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cait |
when you are not used to it |
| 09:57 |
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ashimema |
but.. we don't maintain older manuals well at all |
| 09:57 |
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aude_c[m] |
and one manual to translate (and we need your input to understand the impact) |
| 09:57 |
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cait |
and we'd never catch up on with translations either |
| 09:57 |
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cait |
I think we don't need to maintain that well now that we maintain the newer ones more |
| 09:58 |
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cait |
the most important stuff will be in when the manual is branched |
| 09:58 |
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cait |
but littering thigns with version numbers - I don't see that helping much |
| 09:58 |
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aude_c[m] |
we're always behind on documenting |
| 09:58 |
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cait |
i just see people asking about "why do I not have this checkbox?" |
| 09:59 |
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cait |
but it won't fix the translation problem so or so |
| 09:59 |
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aude_c[m] |
and cherry-picking isn't straightforward (so, quite frankly, things don't get backported to older versions of the manual). So something introduced in one Koha version may only make it into the manual version for 2 Koha versions later. That's not good. |
| 09:59 |
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ashimema |
except we cause ourselves issues by not branching |
| 09:59 |
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ashimema |
we should really branch at release |
| 10:00 |
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cait |
that's true |
| 10:00 |
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cait |
I think if manual updates done in smaller portions, maybe backproting would be easier, but it's probably a lot easier on command line than with the gui tools |
| 10:00 |
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ashimema |
if we branch earlier though.. that will just make the above issue about backports even more pronounced |
| 10:00 |
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ashimema |
it's not easy |
| 10:00 |
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cait |
true, something to talk about |
| 10:00 |
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cait |
but I think the translation issue is really a separate one |
| 10:01 |
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aude_c[m] |
ok |
| 10:01 |
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cait |
we don't have translations for 23.05 and master either |
| 10:01 |
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cait |
so at the moment... it's really bad |
| 10:01 |
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ashimema |
mmm |
| 10:01 |
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* ashimema |
logs into translate to dig around and see if he can work out how to add it for you |
| 10:02 |
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ashimema |
hmm |
| 10:02 |
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ashimema |
interesting |
| 10:02 |
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ashimema |
I don't appear to be able to ssh to translate any more |
| 10:04 |
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cait |
hm it's online at least |
| 10:04 |
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ashimema |
i got in now |
| 10:04 |
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ashimema |
just very very slow to respond |
| 10:06 |
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aude_c[m] |
By the way, cait , you'd put bug 33790 on a previous Docs meeting agenda |
| 10:06 |
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huginn |
Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=33790 normal, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Pushed to master , Fix and add various links to the manual |
| 10:06 |
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aude_c[m] |
Is there still something you need the Docs team to do? |
| 10:07 |
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cait |
yes, get the po files to update the manuals - but that's for later |
| 10:08 |
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aude_c[m] |
Noted!! |
| 10:08 |
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cait |
we need to move them from the tarnslation server into the docs repository... somewhat regularly |
| 10:08 |
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cait |
but without newer files that doesn#t make sense right now |
| 10:09 |
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aude_c[m] |
Next on my list to ask you (sorry :D ) Did you see comments on bug 29063? |
| 10:09 |
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huginn |
Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=29063 major, P5 - low, ---, david, In Discussion , [DOCS] Manual: Translation issue with repeated strings in system preferences |
| 10:10 |
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ashimema |
ideally we don't keep the translations in the gitlab repo at all |
| 10:11 |
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ashimema |
we instead trigger the pull from pootle any time we build the manual |
| 10:11 |
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ashimema |
that was the plan.. |
| 10:11 |
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ashimema |
and I even had it working |
| 10:11 |
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ashimema |
but it got disabled again by someone.. I think perhaps the pootle server had some rebuild or something |
| 10:17 |
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ashimema |
man.. there's not been a pull on here for AGES |
| 10:18 |
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ashimema |
hopefully I've found the right command history for how to do this cait.. wish me luck.. I'm following it a bit blind |
| 10:21 |
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Joubu |
ashimema: for ver in 23.05 22.11 22.05 21.11; do /srv/scripts/update-koha.sh $ver; done | tee update-koha.log |
| 10:21 |
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Joubu |
this is the command |
| 10:22 |
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Joubu |
I have an email I sent on Oct 2021 "Should we add it to the crontab?", never got a reply |
| 10:22 |
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Joubu |
it's very slow IIRC |
| 10:23 |
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ashimema |
my git fetch just took 20 mins 😜 |
| 10:23 |
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ashimema |
I think the above is for koha.. the manual is similar though |
| 10:24 |
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oleonard |
o/ |
| 10:24 |
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ashimema |
what I'm trying to work out though, is how to add manual22.11 to pootle as a project.. it doesn't exist at all yet.. so I don't think the above command is it.. though I could well be wrong |
| 10:25 |
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Joubu |
well, I jumped into the discussion but had not really followed it, sorry.. |
| 10:26 |
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ashimema |
no worries |
| 10:26 |
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Joubu |
it's only to update strings for Koha, totally out of context :D |
| 10:26 |
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ashimema |
I'm all ears if you have knowledge.. I'm properly flying blind |
| 10:26 |
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ashimema |
basically trying to pick out the right lines from the command history 😜 |
| 10:26 |
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Joubu |
there is a card on the kanban I think |
| 10:27 |
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Joubu |
nope, it's only to branch the git repo |
| 10:28 |
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Joubu |
https://gitlab.com/koha-commun[…]anual/-/issues/13 |
| 10:29 |
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| 10:31 |
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Joubu |
ashimema: Shouldn't we simply create a new project on pootle (using the UI)? |
| 10:39 |
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ashimema |
damn |
| 10:39 |
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ashimema |
I'm stuck |
| 10:39 |
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ashimema |
yeah.. that might be where I'm stuck 🙂 |
| 10:45 |
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Joubu |
I hate that wiki |
| 10:46 |
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ashimema |
? |
| 10:46 |
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Joubu |
nothing is correct |
| 10:46 |
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ashimema |
agreed |
| 10:46 |
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Joubu |
everything is outdated |
| 10:46 |
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Joubu |
https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]rest_of_the_world |
| 10:46 |
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Joubu |
that sucks |
| 10:46 |
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Joubu |
"on debian 6"... |
| 10:47 |
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ashimema |
lol |
| 10:47 |
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Joubu |
git reset --hard v3.00.00-stableRC1 |
| 10:48 |
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Joubu |
that must be fun |
| 10:54 |
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cait |
ashimema: fingers are crossed... just lunch drew me away |
| 10:56 |
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cait |
we did delete some stuff, I was going to ask about the many how to add index to zebra pages... |
| 10:56 |
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cait |
I reid to clean up one ealier that was missing some steps |
| 10:56 |
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ashimema |
I'm stuck again |
| 10:56 |
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ashimema |
the project is there |
| 10:57 |
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ashimema |
but I can't seem to get the translations to turn up ☹️ |
| 10:58 |
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ashimema |
ooh, ooh |
| 10:58 |
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| 10:58 |
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ashimema |
I think I found the magic command.. lets see |
| 10:58 |
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ashimema |
doesn't help that there's a lot of 'screen' in this command history.. which hides stuff |
| 11:10 |
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cait |
ashimema++ ashimema++ (23.05, translations) MatthewBlenkinsop++ |
| 11:12 |
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ashimema |
unexpected community days... always fun |
| 11:13 |
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ashimema |
it's still going in the background cait.. but it's starting to look better in the UI now.. |
| 11:13 |
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ashimema |
could you give it a sanity check for me later today pretty please? |
| 11:14 |
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ashimema |
I added my notes on the process to here: https://tree.taiga.io/project/koha-ils/task/33 |
| 11:15 |
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ashimema |
hopefully they make some sense.. |
| 11:15 |
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ashimema |
we should write them up more formerly somewhere.. |
| 11:15 |
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ashimema |
but I've burnt through time today and now have lots of meetings to go into |
| 11:26 |
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cait |
can't tell about hte process, but ones the files are up I can try |
| 11:26 |
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cait |
possibly a good test would be to translate the manual with them |
| 11:26 |
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cait |
will try an dcheck for some recent changes |
| 11:26 |
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ashimema |
ta |
| 11:26 |
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cait |
ashimema: you did 22.11 right? so we need to do 23.05 later when it's ok? |
| 11:27 |
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ashimema |
correct |
| 11:27 |
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cait |
ok, I have a meeting in a bit, but will have a look after! |
| 11:27 |
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ashimema |
once we confirm we're happy I can take a stab at 23.05 |
| 11:31 |
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cait |
one interesting bit |
| 11:31 |
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cait |
it's almost the same strings missing as Koha manual 22.05 |
| 11:31 |
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| 11:31 |
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marcelr |
o/ |
| 11:31 |
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cait |
as if nothing had changed |
| 11:31 |
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cait |
or if it was based on 22.05 actually without the new stuff |
| 11:31 |
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cait |
https://translate.koha-community.org/de/ |
| 11:32 |
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cait |
can you see? the blu numbers of untranslated match up exactly |
| 11:32 |
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ashimema |
mm |
| 11:32 |
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ashimema |
it's still syncing in the background |
| 11:32 |
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ashimema |
not sure if that's the issue |
| 11:34 |
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tcohen |
hola #koha o/ |
| 11:34 |
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tcohen |
anyone from biblibre around? I have an emergency |
| 11:35 |
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cait |
ok, maybe i just need to wait, so after the meeting then |
| 11:35 |
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cait |
tcohen: i think maybe better email |
| 11:36 |
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cait |
ashimema: can you let me know when it's done? |
| 11:36 |
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tcohen |
aren't we still a few days before freeze? |
| 11:36 |
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cait |
I tried searching |AllowCheckoutNotes| but it doesn't show up - it was a change from the hackfest, a screenshot name |
| 11:36 |
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cait |
tcohen: we are trying to fix the manual pos |
| 11:36 |
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tcohen |
ah |
| 11:37 |
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ashimema |
ooh.. it just finished |
| 11:37 |
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cait |
checking |
| 11:38 |
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cait |
numbers are still the same |
| 11:38 |
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cait |
I am not sure if it really used 22.11 |
| 11:38 |
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ashimema |
the templates dir used 22.11 |
| 11:38 |
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cait |
numbers are just too close |
| 11:38 |
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ashimema |
the others are pulled from the old translations |
| 11:38 |
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ashimema |
I don't really know enough about how it all fits together to fix this though ☹️ |
| 11:38 |
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cait |
yeah - that's the trick I was not sure about |
| 11:38 |
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cait |
but there were definitely 22.11 only changes |
| 11:38 |
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cait |
that shoudl result in changed strings |
| 11:39 |
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cait |
no errors or anything? |
| 11:39 |
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ashimema |
nope |
| 11:39 |
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ashimema |
but it's all incredibly manual |
| 11:39 |
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cait |
tcohen: any chance you could visit our TM ? :) |
| 11:39 |
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ashimema |
I documented what I did here tcohen: https://tree.taiga.io/project/koha-ils/task/33 |
| 11:40 |
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ashimema |
and I did that based on command history I dug through from the last time someone did it for 22.05 |
| 11:40 |
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cait |
SearchWithISSNVariations is a new pref that was added to 22.11 branch - I can't find it in pootle |
| 11:40 |
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cait |
can you find it in the files? |
| 11:40 |
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ashimema |
meetings |
| 11:40 |
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wahanui |
meetings are https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]Next_IRC_meetings |
| 11:40 |
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ashimema |
bbiab |
| 11:40 |
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cait |
yeah, i just wonder maybe we missed to update an option ro so? |
| 11:40 |
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cait |
it looks so promising |
| 11:41 |
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cait |
ashimema: that was my testing example from 22.11 branch: https://gitlab.com/koha-commun[…]6ae8f12a4ebb06e86 |
| 11:43 |
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ashimema |
and where is that in the source |
| 11:43 |
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ashimema |
brr.. I don't know |
| 11:43 |
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ashimema |
we need Bernardo |
| 11:44 |
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cait |
i should bein the manual file corresponding with the chapter |
| 11:45 |
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cait |
searchingpreferences.po |
| 11:45 |
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cait |
https://translate.koha-communi[…]ingpreferences.po |
| 11:49 |
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cait |
ashimema: if you want and if it helps... let's take a look togehter later via screenshare? Maybe i can spot something missing |
| 11:51 |
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ashimema |
I think it's all serverside.. and there's really not much to go on |
| 11:51 |
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ashimema |
but we can try |
| 11:51 |
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ashimema |
I really do need to go into a meeting now though. |
| 11:55 |
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oleonard |
caroline around? |
| 11:56 |
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oleonard |
cait can I ask your opinion on something? |
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cait |
sorry in meeting now - try again later? :) |
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oleonard |
Yep! |
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marcelr |
bug 33537 is ready for testing |
| 12:54 |
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huginn |
Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=33537 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Needs Signoff , Move domain limits from koha-conf to staff SMTP configuration |
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Joubu |
marcelr: Modifying limit for 'fooo' failed. (Status 409 - Conflict: duplicate domain name.) |
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Joubu |
when clicking "New member" |
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Joubu |
Domain name = foo then save |
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marcelr |
you cant add two fooo's ? |
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Joubu |
I don't have one yet |
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marcelr |
restart all etc ? |
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Joubu |
reloaded plack, should be enough |
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marcelr |
i added 100s of recs while testing in the meantime |
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Joubu |
restart_all fixed it! |
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marcelr |
ouch |
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Joubu |
you should perltidy perl code ;) |
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Joubu |
some preventDefault() calls also missing |
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Joubu |
you should have written that in Vue |
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marcelr |
it should be nice to do it again and compare ;) |
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marcelr |
i did perl tidy once and again on parts.. |
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marcelr |
my own tidy is better lol |
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marcelr |
where do you miss preventDefault ? |
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Joubu |
preventDefault will prevent the scrollbar to jump at the top when you click on a button or link with a onclick event |
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Joubu |
you need to get the event and call preventDefault() on it |
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Joubu |
+ $('#toolbar').on( "click", 'a.add', function () { |
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Joubu |
will become + $('#toolbar').on( "click", 'a.add', function (e) { e.preventDefault(); |
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marcelr |
ok |
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Joubu |
perltidy output on MailDomainLimits.t make it definitely better |
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marcelr |
will run it |
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Joubu |
swagger specs accept null/empty for limit, unit and type but the UI does not |
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caroline |
oleonard, I just got in, did you get an answer? |
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oleonard |
Hi caroline, I was looking at Bug 31736 |
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huginn |
Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=31736 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, caroline.cyr-la-rose, NEW , Context for translation: "All" |
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oleonard |
caroline: I'm thinking that in a lot of those cases we could just change the actual label to "All libraries" |
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oleonard |
Maybe not on the Circ & Fine rules page since screen space is at a premium |
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oleonard |
I was going to see what cait thought of that too since she speaks a language with notoriously long words :) |
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caroline |
Yes, I had thought of that alternative too |
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caroline |
I was planning on submitting alternate patches maybe and QA/RM would decide what they like best |
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caroline |
I know Bernardo did it for the item search form |
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caroline |
If you look at it, it now says All libraries, All item types, etc. rather than just All |
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caroline |
I'll check what it looks like in german... |
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oleonard |
My other comment is that I wouldn't say 'All libraries/branches' because we already standardize on 'libraries'. I would omit the '/branches' |
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marcelr |
Joubu i need the NULL for limit, unit and type for the domain member records |
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marcelr |
there are two types of records in this table |
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Joubu |
ok got it! |
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cait |
oleonard-away: reading back now? |
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cait |
i might have just missed him |
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caroline |
cait, if I change "All" to "All libraries", "All item types", "All patron categories", etc. Is it too long in German? |
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caroline |
It's just that the word for "All" changes in French depending on what it refers to, so I was adding context, but oleonard suggested changing the label in English |
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cait |
about the same , a little longer maybe |
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cait |
Alle Bibliotheken Alle Medientypen Alle Benutzertypen |
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cait |
thx for asking :) |
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caroline |
So not too long? |
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cait |
should be about the same |
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cait |
I'd say at first glance, patron categories even a little shorter |
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cait |
but I like including the patron because it helps with context there too |
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caroline |
I'll CC you on the bug and you can see if it looks ok |
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aude_c[m] |
Hello, just a little warning that we're having a Documentation meeting starting in a few minutes. We'll be using Jitsi Meet for discussions but also this channel to record minutes. |
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aude_c[m] |
You're welcome to join! :) Details of the meeting are at: https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]ting_12_July_2023 |
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cait |
I'll miss docs meeting probably again, having another meeting, if it doesn't take long I'll try to join later |
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aude_c[m] |
Ok! |
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aude_c[m] |
#startmeeting Documentation meeting 12 July 2023 |
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huginn |
Meeting started Wed Jul 12 14:04:38 2023 UTC. The chair is aude_c[m]. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. |
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huginn |
Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. |
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huginn |
The meeting name has been set to 'documentation_meeting_12_july_2023' |
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aude_c[m] |
#chair marie-luce |
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huginn |
Current chairs: aude_c[m] marie-luce |
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aude_c[m] |
#chair caroline |
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huginn |
Current chairs: aude_c[m] caroline marie-luce |
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aude_c[m] |
#link https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]ting_12_July_2023 Today's agenda |
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aude_c[m] |
#topic Introductions |
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aude_c[m] |
#info Aude Charillon, PTFS Europe, UK |
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Joubu |
#info Jonathan Druart |
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marie-luce |
#topic Introduction |
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caroline |
#info Caroline Cyr La Rose, inlibro, Montreal, Quebec, Canada |
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krimsonkharne[m] |
#info Philip Orr, LMSCloud GmbH, Germany |
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marie-luce |
#info Marie-Luce Laflamme, inlibro, Montreal |
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lucyvh[m] |
#info Lucy Vaux-Harvey, PTFS Europe |
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aude_c[m] |
#info Alexander, PTFS Europe |
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aude_c[m] |
#topic Review of action points |
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aude_c[m] |
#info Discussed bug 29063. More questions for translation. |
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huginn |
Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=29063 major, P5 - low, ---, david, In Discussion , [DOCS] Manual: Translation issue with repeated strings in system preferences |
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aude_c[m] |
#topic What the team has been working on |
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caroline |
I added a comment to the bug with what we discussed |
| 14:25 |
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marie-luce |
#topic Automated screenshots using cypress studio |
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marie-luce |
#link https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=34076 Automated screenshots |
| 14:26 |
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huginn |
Bug 34076: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart+koha, In Discussion , [ALTERNATE] [DOCS] Automated screenshots using Cypress.io testing framework |
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marie-luce |
#action joubu is asking the documentation team to try the test plan bug34076 and give some feedback |
| 14:34 |
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marie-luce |
#action all try the test plan in bug 34076 and give feedback |
| 14:34 |
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huginn |
Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=34076 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart+koha, In Discussion , [ALTERNATE] [DOCS] Automated screenshots using Cypress.io testing framework |
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marie-luce |
#topic How to use only one Manual version |
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marie-luce |
# action aude_c will write a newsletter to explain benefits of keeping only one manual version |
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aude_c[m] |
#topic Planning meetings for the rest of the cycle |
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aude_c[m] |
#info The meeting after this is scheduled for Wednesday 27 September 2023, 14:00 UTC |
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aude_c[m] |
#info The meeting after this is scheduled for Wednesday 25 October 2023, 11:00 UTC |
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aude_c[m] |
#info The meeting after this is scheduled for Wednesday 29 November 2023, 14:00 UTC |
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aude_c[m] |
#topic Documentation how-to sessions |
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marie-luce |
#endmeeting - End the meeting |
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huginn |
Meeting ended Wed Jul 12 14:54:51 2023 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) |
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huginn |
Minutes: https://meetings.koha-communit[…]-07-12-14.04.html |
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huginn |
Minutes (text): https://meetings.koha-communit[…]3-07-12-14.04.txt |
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huginn |
Log: https://meetings.koha-communit[…]12-14.04.log.html |
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aude_c[m] |
#action aude_c to plan. krimsonkharne interested too |
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aude_c[m] |
oops, took too long to write this :D |
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aude_c[m] |
Thank you so much marie-luce for managing the meeting here! |
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marie-luce |
I've improvised ;) |
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aude_c[m] |
hehe! So did I :D |
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cait |
.. it did take long |
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cait |
aude_c[m]: if you decide on one manual... we need to change things in Koha as well, please keep in mind |
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cait |
and we really raelly need a working translation workflow |
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cait |
with regular updates |
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cait |
translation wise... I am a bit worried about one manual and also from user perspective, but I'll wait and see |
| 15:10 |
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aude_c[m] |
Yes. On the one manual we decided to get more comments by sending a message to the Koha mailing list. We haven't made a decision yet. |
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ashimema |
putting it out there.. could we just freeze mid cycle and wait for docs to get in line before actually releases so docs release and koha release coincide 😜 |
| 15:11 |
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ashimema |
lets make everyone wait for docs before they get Koha 😜 |
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aude_c[m] |
Translations: we all have issues and questions about how translations work and none of us are really sure what's happening. When / who is it best to ask / discuss ? |
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aude_c[m] |
ashimema lol. We'd better recruit more Documenters sharp-ish! |
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ashimema |
I volunteer to fly to Argentina to meet with Bernardo.. anyone able to sponsor me? |
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ashimema |
s/able/want/ |
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cait |
I am almos there ashimema, almost there... |
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ashimema |
😂 |
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cait |
it's really bad because we put a lot of work into an almost complete translation for 18.11 |
| 15:15 |
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ashimema |
I put loads of work into getting translations working.. then loads of it got undone ☹️ |
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cait |
and it's not as good in 20.11... although we did translate, butnoone updates manuals |
| 15:15 |
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cait |
and then with the planned update to 22.11 we couldn't even translate :( |
| 15:15 |
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ashimema |
and I just don't have time to take on yet another thing I'm afraid ☹️ |
| 15:15 |
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cait |
I just CANT do it myself, happy to test and all but yeah, I am stuck |
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cait |
and we do have people asking for the updated manual files or wanting to help translate |
| 15:16 |
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aude_c[m] |
And I don't understand enough to help |
| 15:16 |
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ashimema |
Bernardo really is the sticking point.. none of us CAN do it. |
| 15:20 |
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cait |
yeah :( thx for triyng |
| 15:22 |
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oleonard |
caroline++ |
| 15:24 |
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Joubu |
time to switch to weblate and start from scratch... |
| 15:33 |
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cait |
... same question: who doe sit? |
| 15:34 |
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Joubu |
it's done, it needs to be tested.. |
| 15:34 |
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Joubu |
well, there is a test install somewhere |
| 15:51 |
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aude_c[m] |
Is there? I know some French people who may be interested... |
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cait |
ther eis no data in it yet |
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aude_c[m] |
Ah |
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cait |
... would have loved to feed it new manual files heh |
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aude_c[m] |
:/ |
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cait |
got to go... thunder is rolling in and rain will follow |
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cait |
cya later/tomorrow! |
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aude_c[m] |
* waves |
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ashimema |
@later tell cait sorry I had to dive into a meeting |
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huginn |
ashimema: The operation succeeded. |
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* ashimema |
contemplates coffee, tea or beer before starting the next tasks... |
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ashimema |
it's been a loooong day |
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caroline |
Joubu++ #being very patient with me and my ktd problemssss :) |
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aleisha |
hello |
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* cait |
waves |
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aleisha |
i presented at a conference in wellington last week, about open source software culture - thought it may be of interest to people here :) https://youtu.be/wSa_nABUypw |
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cait |
:) |
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