Time Nick Message 21:32 cait :) 21:28 aleisha i presented at a conference in wellington last week, about open source software culture - thought it may be of interest to people here :) https://youtu.be/wSa_nABUypw 20:59 * cait waves 20:56 aleisha hello 18:18 caroline Joubu++ #being very patient with me and my ktd problemssss :) 16:06 ashimema it's been a loooong day 16:06 * ashimema contemplates coffee, tea or beer before starting the next tasks... 16:05 huginn ashimema: The operation succeeded. 16:05 ashimema @later tell cait sorry I had to dive into a meeting 16:01 aude_c[m] * waves 16:00 cait cya later/tomorrow! 16:00 cait got to go... thunder is rolling in and rain will follow 15:53 aude_c[m] :/ 15:52 cait ... would have loved to feed it new manual files heh 15:52 aude_c[m] Ah 15:52 cait ther eis no data in it yet 15:51 aude_c[m] Is there? I know some French people who may be interested... 15:34 Joubu well, there is a test install somewhere 15:34 Joubu it's done, it needs to be tested.. 15:33 cait ... same question: who doe sit? 15:24 Joubu time to switch to weblate and start from scratch... 15:22 oleonard caroline++ 15:20 cait yeah :( thx for triyng 15:16 ashimema Bernardo really is the sticking point.. none of us CAN do it. 15:16 aude_c[m] And I don't understand enough to help 15:16 cait and we do have people asking for the updated manual files or wanting to help translate 15:15 cait I just CANT do it myself, happy to test and all but yeah, I am stuck 15:15 ashimema and I just don't have time to take on yet another thing I'm afraid ☹️ 15:15 cait and then with the planned update to 22.11 we couldn't even translate :( 15:15 cait and it's not as good in 20.11... although we did translate, butnoone updates manuals 15:15 ashimema I put loads of work into getting translations working.. then loads of it got undone ☹️ 15:14 cait it's really bad because we put a lot of work into an almost complete translation for 18.11 15:14 ashimema 😂 15:14 cait I am almos there ashimema, almost there... 15:14 ashimema s/able/want/ 15:13 ashimema I volunteer to fly to Argentina to meet with Bernardo.. anyone able to sponsor me? 15:13 aude_c[m] ashimema lol. We'd better recruit more Documenters sharp-ish! 15:12 aude_c[m] Translations: we all have issues and questions about how translations work and none of us are really sure what's happening. When / who is it best to ask / discuss ? 15:11 ashimema lets make everyone wait for docs before they get Koha 😜 15:11 ashimema putting it out there.. could we just freeze mid cycle and wait for docs to get in line before actually releases so docs release and koha release coincide 😜 15:10 aude_c[m] Yes. On the one manual we decided to get more comments by sending a message to the Koha mailing list. We haven't made a decision yet. 15:10 cait translation wise... I am a bit worried about one manual and also from user perspective, but I'll wait and see 15:09 cait with regular updates 15:09 cait and we really raelly need a working translation workflow 15:09 cait aude_c[m]: if you decide on one manual... we need to change things in Koha as well, please keep in mind 15:08 cait .. it did take long 15:01 aude_c[m] hehe! So did I :D 14:59 marie-luce I've improvised ;) 14:55 aude_c[m] Thank you so much marie-luce for managing the meeting here! 14:55 aude_c[m] oops, took too long to write this :D 14:54 aude_c[m] #action aude_c to plan. krimsonkharne interested too 14:54 huginn Log: https://meetings.koha-community.org/2023/documentation_meeting_12_july_2023.2023-07-12-14.04.log.html 14:54 huginn Minutes (text): https://meetings.koha-community.org/2023/documentation_meeting_12_july_2023.2023-07-12-14.04.txt 14:54 huginn Minutes: https://meetings.koha-community.org/2023/documentation_meeting_12_july_2023.2023-07-12-14.04.html 14:54 huginn Meeting ended Wed Jul 12 14:54:51 2023 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) 14:54 marie-luce #endmeeting - End the meeting 14:54 aude_c[m] #topic Documentation how-to sessions 14:50 aude_c[m] #info The meeting after this is scheduled for Wednesday 29 November 2023, 14:00 UTC 14:50 aude_c[m] #info The meeting after this is scheduled for Wednesday 25 October 2023, 11:00 UTC 14:50 aude_c[m] #info The meeting after this is scheduled for Wednesday 27 September 2023, 14:00 UTC 14:50 aude_c[m] #topic Planning meetings for the rest of the cycle 14:48 marie-luce # action aude_c will write a newsletter to explain benefits of keeping only one manual version 14:39 marie-luce #topic How to use only one Manual version 14:34 huginn 04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=34076 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart+koha, In Discussion , [ALTERNATE] [DOCS] Automated screenshots using Cypress.io testing framework 14:34 marie-luce #action all try the test plan in bug 34076 and give feedback 14:31 marie-luce #action joubu is asking the documentation team to try the test plan bug34076 and give some feedback 14:26 huginn 04Bug 34076: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart+koha, In Discussion , [ALTERNATE] [DOCS] Automated screenshots using Cypress.io testing framework 14:26 marie-luce #link https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=34076 Automated screenshots 14:25 marie-luce #topic Automated screenshots using cypress studio 14:22 caroline I added a comment to the bug with what we discussed 14:20 aude_c[m] #topic What the team has been working on 14:18 huginn 04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=29063 major, P5 - low, ---, david, In Discussion , [DOCS] Manual: Translation issue with repeated strings in system preferences 14:18 aude_c[m] #info Discussed bug 29063. More questions for translation. 14:09 aude_c[m] #topic Review of action points 14:08 aude_c[m] #info Alexander, PTFS Europe 14:06 lucyvh[m] #info Lucy Vaux-Harvey, PTFS Europe 14:05 marie-luce #info Marie-Luce Laflamme, inlibro, Montreal 14:05 krimsonkharne[m] #info Philip Orr, LMSCloud GmbH, Germany 14:05 caroline #info Caroline Cyr La Rose, inlibro, Montreal, Quebec, Canada 14:05 marie-luce #topic Introduction 14:05 Joubu #info Jonathan Druart 14:05 aude_c[m] #info Aude Charillon, PTFS Europe, UK 14:05 aude_c[m] #topic Introductions 14:05 aude_c[m] #link https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Documentation_meeting_12_July_2023 Today's agenda 14:04 huginn Current chairs: aude_c[m] caroline marie-luce 14:04 aude_c[m] #chair caroline 14:04 huginn Current chairs: aude_c[m] marie-luce 14:04 aude_c[m] #chair marie-luce 14:04 huginn The meeting name has been set to 'documentation_meeting_12_july_2023' 14:04 huginn Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 14:04 huginn Meeting started Wed Jul 12 14:04:38 2023 UTC. The chair is aude_c[m]. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 14:04 aude_c[m] #startmeeting Documentation meeting 12 July 2023 14:02 aude_c[m] Ok! 14:01 cait I'll miss docs meeting probably again, having another meeting, if it doesn't take long I'll try to join later 13:59 aude_c[m] You're welcome to join! :) Details of the meeting are at: https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Documentation_meeting_12_July_2023 13:59 aude_c[m] Hello, just a little warning that we're having a Documentation meeting starting in a few minutes. We'll be using Jitsi Meet for discussions but also this channel to record minutes. 13:55 caroline I'll CC you on the bug and you can see if it looks ok 13:54 cait but I like including the patron because it helps with context there too 13:54 cait I'd say at first glance, patron categories even a little shorter 13:54 cait should be about the same 13:50 caroline So not too long? 13:50 cait thx for asking :) 13:50 cait Alle Bibliotheken Alle Medientypen Alle Benutzertypen 13:49 cait about the same , a little longer maybe 13:47 caroline It's just that the word for "All" changes in French depending on what it refers to, so I was adding context, but oleonard suggested changing the label in English 13:46 caroline cait, if I change "All" to "All libraries", "All item types", "All patron categories", etc. Is it too long in German? 13:45 cait i might have just missed him 13:45 cait oleonard-away: reading back now? 13:28 Joubu ok got it! 13:27 marcelr there are two types of records in this table 13:27 marcelr Joubu i need the NULL for limit, unit and type for the domain member records 13:27 oleonard My other comment is that I wouldn't say 'All libraries/branches' because we already standardize on 'libraries'. I would omit the '/branches' 13:26 caroline I'll check what it looks like in german... 13:25 caroline If you look at it, it now says All libraries, All item types, etc. rather than just All 13:25 caroline I know Bernardo did it for the item search form 13:24 caroline I was planning on submitting alternate patches maybe and QA/RM would decide what they like best 13:24 caroline Yes, I had thought of that alternative too 13:23 oleonard I was going to see what cait thought of that too since she speaks a language with notoriously long words :) 13:22 oleonard Maybe not on the Circ & Fine rules page since screen space is at a premium 13:22 oleonard caroline: I'm thinking that in a lot of those cases we could just change the actual label to "All libraries" 13:20 huginn 04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=31736 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, caroline.cyr-la-rose, NEW , Context for translation: "All" 13:20 oleonard Hi caroline, I was looking at Bug 31736 13:17 caroline oleonard, I just got in, did you get an answer? 13:16 Joubu swagger specs accept null/empty for limit, unit and type but the UI does not 13:15 marcelr will run it 13:14 Joubu perltidy output on MailDomainLimits.t make it definitely better 13:12 marcelr ok 13:12 Joubu will become + $('#toolbar').on( "click", 'a.add', function (e) { e.preventDefault(); 13:12 Joubu + $('#toolbar').on( "click", 'a.add', function () { 13:12 Joubu you need to get the event and call preventDefault() on it 13:11 Joubu preventDefault will prevent the scrollbar to jump at the top when you click on a button or link with a onclick event 13:10 marcelr where do you miss preventDefault ? 13:09 marcelr my own tidy is better lol 13:09 marcelr i did perl tidy once and again on parts.. 13:09 marcelr it should be nice to do it again and compare ;) 13:08 Joubu you should have written that in Vue 13:08 Joubu some preventDefault() calls also missing 13:07 Joubu you should perltidy perl code ;) 13:06 marcelr ouch 13:06 Joubu restart_all fixed it! 13:05 marcelr i added 100s of recs while testing in the meantime 13:05 Joubu reloaded plack, should be enough 13:05 marcelr restart all etc ? 13:05 Joubu I don't have one yet 13:04 marcelr you cant add two fooo's ? 13:04 Joubu Domain name = foo then save 13:04 Joubu when clicking "New member" 13:04 Joubu marcelr: Modifying limit for 'fooo' failed. (Status 409 - Conflict: duplicate domain name.) 12:54 huginn 04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=33537 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Needs Signoff , Move domain limits from koha-conf to staff SMTP configuration 12:54 marcelr bug 33537 is ready for testing 12:03 oleonard Yep! 12:01 cait sorry in meeting now - try again later? :) 11:56 oleonard cait can I ask your opinion on something? 11:55 oleonard caroline around? 11:51 ashimema I really do need to go into a meeting now though. 11:51 ashimema but we can try 11:51 ashimema I think it's all serverside.. and there's really not much to go on 11:49 cait ashimema: if you want and if it helps... let's take a look togehter later via screenshare? Maybe i can spot something missing 11:45 cait https://translate.koha-community.org/de/manual22.11/searchingpreferences.po 11:45 cait searchingpreferences.po 11:44 cait i should bein the manual file corresponding with the chapter 11:43 ashimema we need Bernardo 11:43 ashimema brr.. I don't know 11:43 ashimema and where is that in the source 11:41 cait ashimema: that was my testing example from 22.11 branch: https://gitlab.com/koha-community/koha-manual/-/commit/83d34736b5f8a3ab39e80036ae8f12a4ebb06e86 11:40 cait it looks so promising 11:40 cait yeah, i just wonder maybe we missed to update an option ro so? 11:40 ashimema bbiab 11:40 wahanui meetings are https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Next_IRC_meetings 11:40 ashimema meetings 11:40 cait can you find it in the files? 11:40 cait SearchWithISSNVariations is a new pref that was added to 22.11 branch - I can't find it in pootle 11:40 ashimema and I did that based on command history I dug through from the last time someone did it for 22.05 11:39 ashimema I documented what I did here tcohen: https://tree.taiga.io/project/koha-ils/task/33 11:39 cait tcohen: any chance you could visit our TM ? :) 11:39 ashimema but it's all incredibly manual 11:39 ashimema nope 11:39 cait no errors or anything? 11:38 cait that shoudl result in changed strings 11:38 cait but there were definitely 22.11 only changes 11:38 cait yeah - that's the trick I was not sure about 11:38 ashimema I don't really know enough about how it all fits together to fix this though ☹️ 11:38 ashimema the others are pulled from the old translations 11:38 cait numbers are just too close 11:38 ashimema the templates dir used 22.11 11:38 cait I am not sure if it really used 22.11 11:38 cait numbers are still the same 11:37 cait checking 11:37 ashimema ooh.. it just finished 11:36 tcohen ah 11:36 cait tcohen: we are trying to fix the manual pos 11:36 cait I tried searching |AllowCheckoutNotes| but it doesn't show up - it was a change from the hackfest, a screenshot name 11:36 tcohen aren't we still a few days before freeze? 11:36 cait ashimema: can you let me know when it's done? 11:35 cait tcohen: i think maybe better email 11:35 cait ok, maybe i just need to wait, so after the meeting then 11:34 tcohen anyone from biblibre around? I have an emergency 11:34 tcohen hola #koha o/ 11:32 ashimema not sure if that's the issue 11:32 ashimema it's still syncing in the background 11:32 ashimema mm 11:32 cait can you see? the blu numbers of untranslated match up exactly 11:31 cait https://translate.koha-community.org/de/ 11:31 cait or if it was based on 22.05 actually without the new stuff 11:31 cait as if nothing had changed 11:31 marcelr o/ 11:31 cait it's almost the same strings missing as Koha manual 22.05 11:31 cait one interesting bit 11:27 ashimema once we confirm we're happy I can take a stab at 23.05 11:27 cait ok, I have a meeting in a bit, but will have a look after! 11:27 ashimema correct 11:26 cait ashimema: you did 22.11 right? so we need to do 23.05 later when it's ok? 11:26 ashimema ta 11:26 cait will try an dcheck for some recent changes 11:26 cait possibly a good test would be to translate the manual with them 11:26 cait can't tell about hte process, but ones the files are up I can try 11:15 ashimema but I've burnt through time today and now have lots of meetings to go into 11:15 ashimema we should write them up more formerly somewhere.. 11:15 ashimema hopefully they make some sense.. 11:14 ashimema I added my notes on the process to here: https://tree.taiga.io/project/koha-ils/task/33 11:13 ashimema could you give it a sanity check for me later today pretty please? 11:13 ashimema it's still going in the background cait.. but it's starting to look better in the UI now.. 11:12 ashimema unexpected community days... always fun 11:10 cait ashimema++ ashimema++ (23.05, translations) MatthewBlenkinsop++ 10:58 ashimema doesn't help that there's a lot of 'screen' in this command history.. which hides stuff 10:58 ashimema I think I found the magic command.. lets see 10:58 ashimema ooh, ooh 10:57 ashimema but I can't seem to get the translations to turn up ☹️ 10:56 ashimema the project is there 10:56 ashimema I'm stuck again 10:56 cait I reid to clean up one ealier that was missing some steps 10:56 cait we did delete some stuff, I was going to ask about the many how to add index to zebra pages... 10:54 cait ashimema: fingers are crossed... just lunch drew me away 10:48 Joubu that must be fun 10:47 Joubu git reset --hard v3.00.00-stableRC1 10:47 ashimema lol 10:46 Joubu "on debian 6"... 10:46 ashimema [off] and thd seems totally against cleanup 10:46 Joubu that sucks 10:46 Joubu https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Version_Control_Using_Git#Share_with_the_rest_of_the_world 10:46 Joubu everything is outdated 10:46 ashimema agreed 10:46 Joubu nothing is correct 10:46 ashimema ? 10:45 Joubu I hate that wiki 10:39 ashimema yeah.. that might be where I'm stuck 🙂 10:39 ashimema I'm stuck 10:39 ashimema damn 10:31 Joubu ashimema: Shouldn't we simply create a new project on pootle (using the UI)? 10:28 Joubu https://gitlab.com/koha-community/koha-manual/-/issues/13 10:27 Joubu nope, it's only to branch the git repo 10:26 Joubu there is a card on the kanban I think 10:26 ashimema basically trying to pick out the right lines from the command history 😜 10:26 ashimema I'm all ears if you have knowledge.. I'm properly flying blind 10:26 Joubu it's only to update strings for Koha, totally out of context :D 10:26 ashimema no worries 10:25 Joubu well, I jumped into the discussion but had not really followed it, sorry.. 10:24 ashimema what I'm trying to work out though, is how to add manual22.11 to pootle as a project.. it doesn't exist at all yet.. so I don't think the above command is it.. though I could well be wrong 10:24 oleonard o/ 10:23 ashimema I think the above is for koha.. the manual is similar though 10:23 ashimema my git fetch just took 20 mins 😜 10:22 Joubu it's very slow IIRC 10:22 Joubu I have an email I sent on Oct 2021 "Should we add it to the crontab?", never got a reply 10:21 Joubu this is the command 10:21 Joubu ashimema: for ver in 23.05 22.11 22.05 21.11; do /srv/scripts/update-koha.sh $ver; done | tee update-koha.log 10:18 ashimema hopefully I've found the right command history for how to do this cait.. wish me luck.. I'm following it a bit blind 10:17 ashimema man.. there's not been a pull on here for AGES 10:11 ashimema but it got disabled again by someone.. I think perhaps the pootle server had some rebuild or something 10:11 ashimema and I even had it working 10:11 ashimema that was the plan.. 10:11 ashimema we instead trigger the pull from pootle any time we build the manual 10:10 ashimema ideally we don't keep the translations in the gitlab repo at all 10:09 huginn 04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=29063 major, P5 - low, ---, david, In Discussion , [DOCS] Manual: Translation issue with repeated strings in system preferences 10:09 aude_c[m] Next on my list to ask you (sorry :D ) Did you see comments on bug 29063? 10:08 cait but without newer files that doesn#t make sense right now 10:08 cait we need to move them from the tarnslation server into the docs repository... somewhat regularly 10:08 aude_c[m] Noted!! 10:07 cait yes, get the po files to update the manuals - but that's for later 10:06 aude_c[m] Is there still something you need the Docs team to do? 10:06 huginn 04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=33790 normal, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Pushed to master , Fix and add various links to the manual 10:06 aude_c[m] By the way, cait , you'd put bug 33790 on a previous Docs meeting agenda 10:04 ashimema just very very slow to respond 10:04 ashimema i got in now 10:04 cait hm it's online at least 10:02 ashimema I don't appear to be able to ssh to translate any more 10:02 ashimema interesting 10:02 ashimema hmm 10:01 * ashimema logs into translate to dig around and see if he can work out how to add it for you 10:01 ashimema mmm 10:01 cait so at the moment... it's really bad 10:01 cait we don't have translations for 23.05 and master either 10:01 aude_c[m] ok 10:00 cait but I think the translation issue is really a separate one 10:00 cait true, something to talk about 10:00 ashimema it's not easy 10:00 ashimema if we branch earlier though.. that will just make the above issue about backports even more pronounced 10:00 cait I think if manual updates done in smaller portions, maybe backproting would be easier, but it's probably a lot easier on command line than with the gui tools 10:00 cait that's true 09:59 ashimema we should really branch at release 09:59 ashimema except we cause ourselves issues by not branching 09:59 aude_c[m] and cherry-picking isn't straightforward (so, quite frankly, things don't get backported to older versions of the manual). So something introduced in one Koha version may only make it into the manual version for 2 Koha versions later. That's not good. 09:59 cait but it won't fix the translation problem so or so 09:58 cait i just see people asking about "why do I not have this checkbox?" 09:58 aude_c[m] we're always behind on documenting 09:58 cait but littering thigns with version numbers - I don't see that helping much 09:58 cait the most important stuff will be in when the manual is branched 09:57 cait I think we don't need to maintain that well now that we maintain the newer ones more 09:57 cait and we'd never catch up on with translations either 09:57 aude_c[m] and one manual to translate (and we need your input to understand the impact) 09:57 ashimema but.. we don't maintain older manuals well at all 09:57 cait when you are not used to it 09:57 ashimema I'm not against either approach 09:57 aude_c[m] so only one manual to maintain, which would always be the most up-to-date 09:57 cait in my opinion people don't abstract really well 09:57 cait the screenshots won't match 09:57 ashimema one manual with tags inside it to highlight changes in versions 09:57 aude_c[m] just have one same manual for all 09:57 cait I don't think ti would help really, people will get confused 09:56 ashimema instead of a manual per koha version supported 09:56 aude_c[m] stop having one manual version per Koha version 09:56 aude_c[m] (and will need to be discussed further, but we need to start somewhere) 09:56 cait what do you mean by one manual? 09:56 aude_c[m] The one manual idea is on the agenda for this afternoon's Docs meeting 09:56 aude_c[m] cait: would it help if... we only had one version of the Manual in the future? 09:55 aude_c[m] Thank you ashimema ! 09:55 * ashimema pushed removal of 'development' for you aude_c 09:55 aude_c[m] For the Manual side, I have this https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Documentation_management#Translating_the_manual 09:54 cait I don't think a different way is feasable really, different translation platform for all our thigns, yes 09:54 cait and I don't know if we have any documantation on how to make the po fils for manuals? 09:54 aude_c[m] We need to chat with the Translation manager apparently... or just decide a completely different way of dealing with the Manual translations. 09:54 cait I have sent a lot of emails to bgkriegel, I don't know how to proceed 09:53 aude_c[m] I know. Talked about this with the French translators too. 09:53 ashimema * hugs aude_c 09:53 ashimema hugs aude_x 09:53 aude_c[m] :( 09:53 cait we would translate, but no po files to have... 09:52 cait I am more worried still about having an LTS version with no German manual :( 09:52 cait ah ok, I don't see that 09:52 ashimema 23.05 isn't in development any more 😜 09:52 aude_c[m] (Noticed it earlier this week) 09:52 ashimema it's part of the title 09:52 ashimema in the manual link above 09:52 aude_c[m] Sorry, it's on my to-do list too 09:52 cait which development? 09:51 ashimema always bugs me 09:51 ashimema grr.. I'm going to remove that '(development)' there.. 09:51 cait i can check for the account if you want to send me a PM 09:50 Annelisterman[m] Library HU: https://koha-community.org/manual/23.05/en/html/circulation.html#holds 09:49 LibraryHU[m] how to place hold on books in koha? 09:43 aude_c[m] I assume so. As it is a long while since they last logged in, they also wondered whether their account had been deleted in a tidy-up. 09:43 aude_c[m] Thanks! 09:40 cait I haven't heard from other proboems, spam folder and all were checked? 09:39 cait it shoudl be ok, was the last status I had 09:39 aude_c[m] Hello! Does anyone know if there are still problems with accounts on the Koha wiki? A librarian is telling me they're trying to reset their password but they're not receiving anything. 09:14 cait heh thanks! 09:14 * Joubu sends cait some mate 09:09 * cait never got that coffee... 08:38 PedroAmorim[m] o/ 08:37 wahanui next meeting is, like, https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Next_IRC_meetings 08:37 krimsonkharne[m] next meeting? 08:22 cait ashimema: can you bring me some too? 08:06 * ashimema needs coffee 08:03 ashimema Development and production at certainly different use cases.. ktd is certainly a development tool 08:03 aw-bib[m] right. so I stick with the recommended stuff for the time being. a few boxes will be pretty far away and I fear I have a pretty challenging time frame as well. so avoid all even potential issues is a thing of it's own. (and right now I can assume at least a debian server everywhere...) 08:00 cait I had said package installation is still the recommended method :) 07:59 cait ashimema++ 07:55 aw-bib[m] Joubu: your guess was perfectly right. tanks! mystery solved. :) 07:49 aw-bib[m] I am not (yet) into docker as cait mentioned that for the prods it is preferable to run on bare metal. so right now bare metal it is. but actually we'd prefer to dockerize at some point. I might come back to you on that. ;) 07:47 Joubu if you are using ktd you can edit the yml and call `reset_all` that is an alias to drop/create and populate the db with the sample data 07:47 aw-bib[m] I'll give it a try. InstallKoha takes just a few seconds :) 07:47 aw-bib[m] this also explains why I have 3 z3950servers in the first place. 07:46 Joubu it's just a guess, worth a try! 07:46 Joubu here you are adding sru_options that is not in lx2.loc.gov 07:46 aw-bib[m] ah! so if I have more parameters this should go to it's own block. 07:46 Joubu you can see 3 "z3950servers", each has different columns 07:45 Joubu IIRC you need the same rows per "block" 07:44 aw-bib[m] if I set checked to 1 I get the same reuslt. and sru_options doesn't end up in the db at all. 07:44 aw-bib[m] the block in question I use is... (full message at <https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/v3/download/matrix.org/WwplZbqQyLcRQKRQDjannJxB>) 07:43 aw-bib[m] I added the two new servers just below the lx2.loc.gov sru server and besides those parameters they end up in the ui and work as expected. I am just not able to autocheck those. but you are right, it works for z3950.bnf.fr 07:41 aw-bib[m] I tried to add two new servers on the line of the LoC sru service to the yml. this is processed fine but the parameters don't end up in the database. I don't really get it I admit. 07:40 Joubu which is the value set in installer/data/mysql/en/optional/sample_z3950_servers.yml 07:39 Joubu aw-bib[m]: how ignored? I am seeing that z3950.bnf.fr has rank=2 in DB 07:28 ashimema Pass 07:27 ashimema Now we're only a month behind master.. will continue later 07:27 aw-bib[m] hello! yesterday I fiddled with adding new sru servers to koha during baseinstall. for this I added the services to the z3950.yml file. doing this I noticed that sru_options seems to be ignored, similarly checked and rank values. I'll most likely solve this via sql, but I wonder if this points to a deeper issue. (maybe it went unnoticed till now as the only sru-server in the defaults is LoC which doesn't need any parameters.) 07:06 ashimema haha 07:06 dcook ashimema: I'd say it can't hit back but I think we know better... 07:03 * ashimema roles up sleeves and hits 23.05.x hard