| Time |
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Nick |
Message |
| 05:22 |
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tuxayo |
mtj: "2nd-hand thinkpad t420s are $10-ish US": you mean like for 10$??? |
| 05:40 |
|
tuxayo |
You found quite a beefy T420 with a 2670QM CPU. When I bought mine it I got a 2520M, the quad cores where quite more expensive and rarer than the 2 core 4 thread I got. And there where a lot of T420 with low power CPUs which might not be different enough from a raspberry pi. Still one with a 2520M is x1.75 single thread and x2.1 for multithread. |
| 05:42 |
|
tuxayo |
Crazy that my CPU isn't so far ahead as I though from a RPi 4 |
| 05:47 |
|
tuxayo |
Wait the RPi 4 you found is overclocked from 1.5 GHz to 2 GHz! |
| 05:47 |
|
tuxayo |
So many gotchas with benchmarks! |
| 05:48 |
|
tuxayo |
Anyway, great idea to get 2nd hand laptops (which non-low power CPUs) as servers. |
| 05:48 |
|
tuxayo |
*with non-low power |
| 06:46 |
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mtj |
hi tuxayo, it was the only t420 at geekbench i could find |
| 06:49 |
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tuxayo |
mtj: hi :) For some reason, thinkpads in geekbench don't have their well known names (t420) but more obscure model numbers like 42364F2 |
| 06:49 |
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mtj |
yeah, probably how geekbench pulls/displays their model id |
| 06:50 |
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tuxayo |
It guess it's the actual thinkpad model with this precise CPU. Since t420 is actually a family |
| 06:50 |
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mtj |
yeah |
| 06:51 |
|
mtj |
i mention t420 as they are common and cheap, popular with government departments and corps |
| 06:52 |
|
mtj |
easy to upgrade and get 3rd-party spares for |
| 06:53 |
|
mtj |
t430, next series higher has sata3 |
| 06:53 |
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| 06:55 |
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mtj |
dell and hp has similar cheap models from the same era |
| 06:59 |
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tuxayo |
> i mention t420 as they are common and cheap |
| 06:59 |
|
tuxayo |
indeed! |
| 07:01 |
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tuxayo |
> t430, next series higher has sata3 |
| 07:01 |
|
tuxayo |
Actually my PC! my T420 got stollen... And only a T430 was at a reasonable price even like 3 years after. |
| 07:01 |
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tuxayo |
and if I change PC now, next series are actually hard to find with not a low power CPU, so the different won't be that much :( |
| 07:04 |
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| 07:05 |
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mtj |
we have some resellers in NZ, that seems to have an endless supply of t420s |
| 07:08 |
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* mtj |
confesses to have a bunch of older thinkpads |
| 07:47 |
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| 08:39 |
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tuxayo |
> that seems to have an endless supply of t420s |
| 08:39 |
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tuxayo |
lol |
| 08:42 |
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| 08:53 |
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| 08:53 |
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alex_ |
Bonjour |
| 09:10 |
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PedroAmorim[m] |
morning |
| 09:11 |
|
cait |
ashimema: I ams orry, but the sandbox is dead http://sandboxes.ptfs-europe.co.uk/ |
| 09:19 |
|
ashimema |
yup |
| 09:36 |
|
* mtj |
waves \o |
| 09:38 |
|
mtj |
Joubu: i did have another look at your docker/apache error... its a crazy rabbithole 🐇 |
| 09:41 |
|
mtj |
one workaround might be to use an apache2 pkg - that allows to be run as root user |
| 09:46 |
|
mtj |
the problem seems to be that all general gitlab runners, run with user as ID 0 (aka root) |
| 09:47 |
|
magnuse_ |
should changes made in pootle be visible in the downloadable .po files immediately, or is there some delay? |
| 09:48 |
|
cait |
we just had the question on the mailing list |
| 09:48 |
|
cait |
I actually don't know, but it#s possible they are only generated pre-releases or overnight |
| 09:51 |
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magnuse_ |
ah, thanks. that message sounds like no update for "a few days". maybe there is a problem there? i'll keep an eye on the list |
| 09:52 |
|
cait |
maybe they only update for releases |
| 09:52 |
|
mtj |
magnuse_: curious.. have you recently done some translations on pootle? |
| 09:52 |
|
cait |
you might want to try and email bgkriegel directly |
| 09:53 |
|
magnuse_ |
mtj: yeah, i did a little bit on both swedish and norwegian |
| 09:53 |
|
mtj |
i wondered if the 'Last action:' value was updated... |
| 09:54 |
|
magnuse_ |
mtj: yes, it show me as the last person to edit |
| 09:54 |
|
mtj |
https://translate.koha-communi[…].05/sv-SE-pref.po |
| 09:54 |
|
magnuse_ |
yup |
| 09:56 |
|
mtj |
hmm, how to download a .po.. |
| 09:56 |
|
magnuse_ |
https://translate.koha-communi[…]/export/22.05/sv/ |
| 09:56 |
|
magnuse_ |
for example |
| 09:59 |
|
mtj |
hmm, looks like some cronjob, or a manually run job hey? |
| 10:00 |
|
mtj |
.looking at those file timestamps |
| 10:02 |
|
magnuse_ |
yes, that looks quite likely |
| 10:02 |
|
magnuse_ |
all the norwegian files are last modified "2023-02-18 00:00" |
| 10:03 |
|
magnuse_ |
there german ones have different dates: https://translate.koha-communi[…]/export/22.05/de/ |
| 10:06 |
|
mtj |
surely a cronjob |
| 10:06 |
|
mtj |
every hour? :) |
| 10:07 |
|
mtj |
hmm, it should have just run :/ |
| 10:08 |
|
Annelisterman[m] |
I'm not sure, but I think the po files are updated once a day when there are changes to them. It looked like that when I updated the Finnish translations. |
| 10:12 |
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mtj |
hi Annelisterman[m], that makes sense :) |
| 10:16 |
|
ashimema |
erm.. a large amount of the po files on pootle are just plain broken without manual work |
| 10:17 |
|
ashimema |
I've been trying to get that sorted for ages.. right now the rmaints have to step in a do a tonne of fixes at release time |
| 10:17 |
|
ashimema |
just a heads up if your trying to use them in production and wondering why koha is majorly borked by them |
| 10:18 |
|
ashimema |
https://git.koha-community.org[…]518feafafe112ef9e is an example |
| 10:18 |
|
ashimema |
of what we do to fix them |
| 11:01 |
|
mtj |
ashimema: oof, do you think its possible to automate a po. fixup? |
| 11:02 |
|
ashimema |
the real solution is to have the fixes that the rmaints have made back into pootle.. but catching bernardo is rather difficult it seems. |
| 11:02 |
|
ashimema |
the plural handling i doesn't seem to be very good in pootle. |
| 11:03 |
|
ashimema |
I'd be interested in automating, or even just blocking at source, the mistakes in variable names being translated |
| 11:03 |
|
ashimema |
there are a few issues mixed into it really |
| 11:03 |
|
mtj |
yeap, i see that |
| 11:04 |
|
ashimema |
I wonder if switching to another translation software might be a good idea too.. pootle seems to be abandonware |
| 11:04 |
|
ashimema |
weblate seems to be the preferred option now |
| 11:05 |
|
mtj |
perhaps we get a backup person for bernardo |
| 11:05 |
|
ashimema |
I think we've tried a few times |
| 11:05 |
|
ashimema |
it's always the same few volunteering from the pool of people 😜 |
| 11:06 |
|
ashimema |
I've even tried it.. I have access to the server.. but I just don't have time to get up to speed on how pootle fits together |
| 11:08 |
|
tcohen |
hola #koha o/ |
| 11:09 |
|
mtj |
weblate looks promising |
| 11:10 |
|
mtj |
hi tcohen \o |
| 11:11 |
|
tcohen |
the main problem with pootle is that we haven't ever documented how to do things |
| 11:11 |
|
tcohen |
and is aging as well |
| 11:14 |
|
tcohen |
Joubu: I've got a response from hte Mojo plugin maintainer: it is not designed to validate twice and he didn't seem open to change that |
| 11:31 |
|
pastebot |
"tcohen" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "Joubu, ashimema: do we want this in a short/mid term?" (20 lines) at https://paste.koha-community.org/1651 |
| 11:40 |
|
ashimema |
seems fairly sane to me |
| 11:41 |
|
tcohen |
so in that case I think I'll provide a follow-up to the bug, and once reviewed we can push |
| 11:42 |
|
tcohen |
it is what I pasted (for the future) or a more complex way for plugins to do their own routes and make the UI use them |
| 11:43 |
|
tcohen |
ashimema (and everyone): please read my last comment on bug 32981 |
| 11:43 |
|
huginn |
Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=32981 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart+koha, Passed QA , Add REST API endpoint to list authorised values for a given category |
| 11:43 |
|
tcohen |
it is a terminology question, I think we need some refinement iteration on that spec |
| 11:43 |
|
tcohen |
thanks! |
| 11:44 |
|
oleonard |
Hi #koha |
| 12:09 |
|
oleonard |
Looks like patron attributes always show up as changed after the patron updates their own record in the OPAC |
| 12:33 |
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| 12:53 |
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cait |
oleonard-away: thanks :) |
| 13:44 |
|
magnuse_ |
there is no way to limit stars and comments to only librarians, right? |
| 13:44 |
|
lukeg |
Anyone want to have a look at my patch for 22.05.x here: https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=32505 ? |
| 13:44 |
|
huginn |
Bug 32505: normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart+koha, Needs Signoff , Cannot search by dateofbirth in specified dateformat |
| 13:45 |
|
lukeg |
I'd like a stamp of arroval before I push this, and I still would like to get this in before I make 22.05.10 |
| 14:27 |
|
tcohen |
Joubu++ |
| 14:27 |
|
tcohen |
PedroAmorim[m]++ |
| 14:35 |
|
tcohen |
Joubu, ashimema available for a call? |
| 14:42 |
|
ashimema |
I'm going into an Aspen call in a few mins |
| 14:42 |
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tcohen |
oh, ok |
| 14:42 |
|
ashimema |
Well, assuming my laptop comes back to life.. it's just crashed hard on me |
| 14:43 |
|
tcohen |
we need to sort the avs terminology for good |
| 14:43 |
|
tcohen |
and move those bugs |
| 14:43 |
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ashimema |
The Aspen call is average an hour |
| 14:43 |
|
ashimema |
Can talk after |
| 14:44 |
|
ashimema |
Or you guys can meet without me |
| 14:44 |
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tcohen |
we need Joubu |
| 14:44 |
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tcohen |
I wouldn't like to wait for the next dev meeting |
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| 16:41 |
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PedroAmorim[m] |
part of 32981 and 32997 certainly overlap a bit in functionality imo, i.e. having an endpoint that retrieves values of a given single AV category vs. an endpoint that retrieves values for multiple given AV categories, including a single one if just one category_name is given |
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| 18:32 |
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RuP |
Hi |
| 18:41 |
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* cait |
waves |
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| 21:27 |
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caroline_catlady |
davidnind around? |
| 21:36 |
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caroline |
@later tell davidnind can you check the manual pipeline errors? It stopped working again, and I suspect it's the same problem (although I'm not sure why it worked for a while and stopped) |
| 21:36 |
|
huginn |
caroline: The operation succeeded. |
| 21:38 |
|
caroline |
does anyone on the docs team have a setup for EDIFACT? There is ONE remaining screenshot to update in the Acquisitions chapter and it's the last one https://koha-community.org/man[…]#edifact-messages |
| 21:39 |
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caroline |
Wouldn't it be grand to have a whole chapter DONE? :D |
| 21:54 |
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cait |
caroline: ah hey, you are here :) |
| 21:54 |
|
caroline |
yes! |
| 21:54 |
|
caroline |
hi! |
| 21:55 |
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cait |
mine looks like that: https://snipboard.io/hrB09j.jpg |
| 21:55 |
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cait |
(sorry no EDIFACT) |
| 21:55 |
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caroline |
Well, that's good at least |
| 21:55 |
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cait |
yeah, but why is yours broken? |
| 21:56 |
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cait |
i didn't fix that |
| 21:56 |
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cait |
only made the button yellow |
| 21:56 |
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cait |
are you using ktd? |
| 21:56 |
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caroline |
No I have a git thing where I pull to update it |
| 21:56 |
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cait |
hm could you try yarn buliding? |
| 21:57 |
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caroline |
I tried before commenting but it gave me errors... let me try agian |
| 21:58 |
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cait |
we are no longer shipping the yarn files - maybe that's the difference because in git you need to do htat manually? but mostly guessing |
| 21:58 |
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caroline |
I thought the master had the builds though? |
| 21:58 |
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cait |
no |
| 21:58 |
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cait |
they are no longer in the repository - but ktd builds them for you (is what I understood) |
| 21:59 |
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cait |
tcohen: maybe around? |
| 21:59 |
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caroline |
Ok it says success... but the field is still misaligned... :/ |
| 21:59 |
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caroline |
Anyway, if it works for you, it's good enough for me |
| 22:00 |
|
caroline |
The screenshot in the manual will be wonky however |
| 22:02 |
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caroline |
Are you sure you didn't correct it? I applied your patch and it's aligned now |
| 22:03 |
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cait |
hm pretty sure I didnt |
| 22:03 |
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cait |
only added some classes |
| 22:03 |
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cait |
maybe it did cache something that is gone now? |
| 22:03 |
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caroline |
maybe... although I'm pretty sure I did Ctrl+F5 |
| 22:03 |
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cait |
does it stay fixed? |
| 22:04 |
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cait |
if you reload and all? |
| 22:04 |
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caroline |
let me sign off and I'll reset to see |
| 22:04 |
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cait |
do you think "part of text" will work as context for "Quotes" |
| 22:05 |
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caroline |
as opposed to "price submission" for example? |
| 22:05 |
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cait |
yeah |
| 22:05 |
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cait |
different words in german |
| 22:05 |
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caroline |
makes sense |
| 22:05 |
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cait |
or maybe "citation"? |
| 22:06 |
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caroline |
let me check what our friend webster says |
| 22:06 |
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caroline |
a passage, a saying |
| 22:07 |
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caroline |
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/quote |
| 22:07 |
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cait |
citation shows up in the synonyms |
| 22:08 |
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caroline |
citation is fine with me! (it's the french word hehe) |
| 22:08 |
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cait |
there is no mention of the other meaning |
| 22:08 |
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cait |
written offer maybe? |
| 22:09 |
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caroline |
There is 3a to state the current price or bid-offer |
| 22:09 |
|
cait |
oh |
| 22:09 |
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cait |
I am not finding it |
| 22:10 |
|
cait |
where is that? |
| 22:10 |
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caroline |
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/quote |
| 22:10 |
|
cait |
.... ok, getting a little late |
| 22:10 |
|
caroline |
but under nous, it refers to quotation |
| 22:10 |
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caroline |
the naming or publishing of current bids and offers or prices of securities or commodities |
| 22:10 |
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caroline |
I would context it as like "Price offer" or "price submission" |
| 22:11 |
|
cait |
ok |
| 22:11 |
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caroline |
where in Koha do we have quotes as in price bids? Is it new? |
| 22:12 |
|
cait |
EDIFACT |
| 22:12 |
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caroline |
ah, it explains why I never saw it |
| 22:12 |
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cait |
we don't use it either |
| 22:12 |
|
cait |
(yet) |
| 22:13 |
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caroline |
I wonder if aude has some sort of set up... I know ashimema worked on EDIFACT things |
| 22:13 |
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caroline |
(for my screenshot) |
| 22:14 |
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cait |
I know they have a lot of libraries using EDIFACT |
| 22:14 |
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cait |
sounds like a good idea :) |
| 22:23 |
|
cait |
out of interest: are quotes different things in french too? |
| 22:37 |
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ashimema |
Hello |
| 22:37 |
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* ashimema |
reads been |
| 22:37 |
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ashimema |
Been |
| 22:37 |
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ashimema |
Back |
| 22:40 |
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ashimema |
Yeah, we have loads of EDI sites |
| 22:40 |
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ashimema |
And quotes are a type of EDI message |
| 22:41 |
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ashimema |
A quote becomes a basket, then the basket becomes and order and finally an invoice does the receipting |
| 22:41 |
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ashimema |
At least that's my memory of it |
| 22:42 |
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ashimema |
Must admit . I have to relearn EDI every time I have to dig into it again |
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frank_2 |
Hi! |
| 23:49 |
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frank_2 |
Is there a way to add the name of the currently logged in staff member to a slip? |
| 23:49 |
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frank_2 |
So patrons know who they were talking to. |
