IRC log for #koha, 2022-12-01

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00:07 tuxayo rangi[m] or gmcharlt around? I read that you have admin access to our Gitea.
00:07 rangi[m] i dont
00:08 rangi[m] at least im 99% sure i dont
00:08 rangi[m] only to gitlab
00:08 tuxayo lol then I can remove you from the list: https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]
00:08 tuxayo The people locked outside at this hours won't come bother you :P
00:09 tuxayo *So people locked outside
00:09 rangi[m] lemme check if i can reset my password and get in
00:09 rangi[m] i think last time i tried this it never sent me the email to reset it
00:09 tuxayo thanks for checking 🙏
00:10 rangi[m] but will wait and see
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07:41 ashimema I updated gittea for you tuxayo
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07:42 reiveune hello
07:49 tuxayo ashimema: thanks a lot! It goes a step further. Now it tell me "Gitea: Not allowed to push to protected branch 21.05.x"
07:49 ashimema hmm
07:50 ashimema I need to reboot quickly, then will take another look
07:59 ashimema ah.. looks to me like teams were updated but not the branches they're attached to
07:59 ashimema I'm being called for breakfast.. will get that fixed as soon as I've eaten
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08:04 tuxayo 👍️
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08:08 ashimema done tuzayo
08:08 ashimema tuxayo even
08:14 Joubu tuxayo: I removed you from 21.05 as you are not part of RMaint list for 23.05
08:14 ashimema except he hadn't done his final release yet Joubu
08:15 ashimema so I re-added him temporarily to get that one out of the door
08:15 ashimema then we can remove again
08:15 Joubu yep, just explaining why he got removed ;)
08:15 ashimema ah,, indeed
08:15 ashimema you were too efficient this change over.. hehe 🙂
08:15 Joubu I didn't check everything was released, my bad
08:15 * ashimema hand't actually noticed it hadn't been released yet either
08:16 ashimema like I hadn't noticed we'd EOL U18 support with the release of 22.11 🙂
08:16 ashimema I'm just fixing the dashboard to remove that build.. then I'll have a nice green row I hope
08:17 tuxayo My mistake, I only warned tomas and Mason that I still had some patch queue and a lot of BZ notification to sort in case of backport request.
08:20 Joubu rangi[m]: you have admin access to gitea since the first day it has been installed ;)
08:21 Joubu admins on gitea are rangi[m], gmcharlt, ashimema, tcohen and me
08:25 ashimema I think he struggled to get in.. password reset didn't send an email
08:28 * ashimema goes back to fighting with sandboxes... again
08:29 ashimema something funky going on.. on all of them.
08:31 ashimema Joubu, do you remember.. what did you do to get https working on the biblibre sandboxes?
08:34 Joubu I have a "Issue #56" commit
08:35 Joubu Then I cannot remember, I think it's done at nginx level
08:36 Joubu but not on this server, biblibre's sysop dealt with that
08:36 ashimema ah, I see
08:36 ashimema okies
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08:57 tuxayo > something funky going on.. on all of them.
08:57 tuxayo indeed ashimema 😱😱😱
08:58 tuxayo Triple redundancy doesn't do anything against big recent changes T_T
08:59 ashimema I may have just fixed the ptfs-e ines
09:00 ashimema Need to check the result when I get home
09:00 Joubu what's wrong with the sandboxes,
09:00 Joubu ?
09:02 Joubu Emailing on should be fixed now. We are using gmail smtp but they disabled the auth by login/pwd. You now need a "App password".
09:07 cait1 Joubu: sandboxes don't come up - gives an error after finishing provisioning when you click on OPAC/staff - ashimema might know details, but it shows the same on bywater and ptfs-e ones
09:08 Joubu ashimema: [webpack-cli] [Error: EACCES: permission denied, open '/kohadevbox/koha/koha-tmpl/intranet-tmp​l/prog/js/vue/dist/main.js.LICENSE.txt'] {
09:08 Joubu I am seeing this
09:09 Joubu ashimema: I think tcohen and I agreed on committing this file. I thought it was done actually
09:09 Joubu We should ask Tomas to commit and push it
09:10 Joubu I guess it will fix the problem
09:10 tuxayo Weird that it does a "EACCES: permission denied"
09:15 tuxayo ashimema: «I may have just fixed the ptfs-e ines» nope :(
09:17 ashimema seems not
09:17 ashimema I've fixed one issue, but it's just highlighted another ☹️
09:18 ashimema I think ansible has changed some things beneath us
09:19 ashimema the initial issue was that the python-apt packages was suddenly missing.. so all the apt: sections in the ansible yaml's were failing
09:20 Joubu ashimema: did you see the permission error? I am seeing this on biblibre's ones
09:20 ashimema where are you seeing that error about licence.txt
09:20 Joubu which one do you get on ptfs's?
09:20 ashimema I see TASK [Checkout origin/master in docker container] ******************************
09:20 ashimema fatal: [localhost -> koha-test]: UNREACHABLE! => {"changed": false, "msg": "Failed to create temporary directory.In some cases, you may have been able to authenticate and did not have permissions on the target directory. Consider changing the remote tmp path in ansible.cfg to a path rooted in \"/tmp\", for more error information use -vvv. Failed command was: ( umask 77 && mkdir -p \"` echo ~/.ansible/tmp `\"&& mkdir \"` echo
09:20 ashimema ~/.ansible/tmp/ansible-tmp-16698​84055.381836-20735-7675989363772 `\" && echo ansible-tmp-1669884055.3818​36-20735-7675989363772=\"` echo ~/.ansible/tmp/ansible-tmp-16698​84055.381836-20735-7675989363772 `\" ), exited with result 1", "unreachable": true}
09:21 ashimema in the provision logs
09:21 Joubu that's misleading
09:21 Joubu this error appears when the container crashes
09:21 Joubu it's a generic error
09:21 ashimema ah.. ok
09:21 Joubu you need to tail -f the container's log when it's running
09:21 Joubu docker logs koha-xxx -f
09:22 Joubu the real error is the permission error
09:22 Joubu but... why is it failing on sandboxes not on jenkins and or dev env? this is the weird bit
09:23 ashimema I had to install 'python-apt' package on the host to get past the first errors
09:23 Joubu I would commit the LICENSE file, especially becasue it has a reference in main.js
09:23 ashimema mm, very strange
09:23 Joubu I discussed that with tcohen a couple of days ago, and I think we decided we should push it
09:31 Joubu ashimema: I pushed it
09:32 Joubu @later tell tcohen I pushed the main.js.LICENSE.txt file, it may fix the sandboxes
09:32 huginn Joubu: The operation succeeded.
09:33 Joubu @later tell tcohen I pushed the main.js.LICENSE.txt file, it may fix the sandboxes
09:33 huginn Joubu: The operation succeeded.
09:33 Joubu ooops
09:34 Joubu it passed the webpack step \o/
09:36 Joubu ashimema, tuxayo: fixed -
09:37 ashimema nice one
09:37 ashimema thanks Joubu
09:39 cait1 Joubu++ :)
09:40 tuxayo Joubu++
09:40 tuxayo still something wrong with the ptfs-e one , 503 again on a fresh one
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09:42 Joubu It's looping, container is restarted
09:42 Joubu it happens when the container is not stopped because up
09:42 Joubu something about port in apache config
09:43 Joubu[…]ocker/-/issues/63
09:44 Joubu ashimema: I do have the "Issue #63 - Don't restart KTD container on startup error" commit applied
09:44 ashimema we should merge that..
09:45 ashimema I'm just reading through.. I missed a bunch of these enhancements you made to ktd back when you made them ☹️
09:45 ashimema always so busy these days
09:45 Joubu well it won't fix the problem, but it will prevent the container to restart endlessly
09:59 ashimema I've merged that one.. it's a sane change
09:59 ashimema and yeah.. at least it should expose the actual error for me.
10:00 tuxayo What should Kyle do for the ByWater sandboxes? Since it's wasn't just in Koha's code.
10:04 ashimema I'll catch him later when he wakes up
10:06 ashimema lol..
10:06 ashimema your patch fixed it Joubu
10:07 ashimema whatever the error was just went away when i pulled that
10:07 ashimema weird
10:07 Joubu \o/
10:17 tuxayo Thanks Joubu and ashimema , I'm saved for tomorrow :)
10:17 ashimema 🙂
10:18 mtj hi #koha
10:18 cait1 hi mtj .)
10:18 ashimema It was right at the top of my list for this morning to ensure you had working sandboxes for tomorrow 😛
10:18 ashimema so glad Joubu jumped in though.. he saved me some real headaches 🙂
10:18 ashimema morning mtj
10:18 cait1 in case you didn't see it yesterday: thx for the translation fixed patches - got feedback from a library that updated right away that now all works again :)
10:18 mtj bz 32349
10:18 cait1 well actually 2 libraries
10:18 ashimema bug 32349
10:18 huginn Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=32349 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart+koha, Needs Signoff , Remove TEST_QA
10:24 mtj hi Joubu, patch for 32349 looks good :)
10:24 mtj sandboxes are happy now?
10:24 ashimema they are for biblibre and ptfs-e
10:24 ashimema bywater will need to pull when they wake up 🙂
10:27 mtj awesome
11:32 paulderscheid[m] Check this out:
11:32 paulderscheid[m] It has some problem, but is insane nevertheless 😳
11:34 oleonard o/
11:37 oleonard paulderscheid[m]: What is it?
11:38 paulderscheid[m] It's a Chatbot that uses OpenAI's GPT-model to answer any of your questions.
11:39 paulderscheid[m] Just ask something about SCSS or Bootstrap, you'll be amazed. It just wrote my entire tsconfig.json
11:39 oleonard :O
11:39 paulderscheid[m] It even explained some of the choices it made.
11:41 davidnind Also see this example[…]98235277558165504
11:45 oleonard paulderscheid[m]: That is very cool!
11:46 oleonard If we flood an incorrect answer on Stack Overflow with upvotes will it contaminate it's mind? :D
11:47 paulderscheid[m] It just told me, that the cutoff date for the data it has been trained on was late 2021.
11:48 * oleonard uses this to write all my HARDCORE code at my new job at Twitter ;)
11:48 davidnind LOL!
11:48 tuxayo XD
12:17 tcohen hola #koha
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13:05 cait1 paulderscheid++ :)
13:06 paulderscheid[m] Haha, community++ cait++ cait1++
13:07 cait1 community++
13:09 oleonard cait1: Did you figure out what was going on with DataTables saved state?
13:10 cait1 didn't have the time really - was just runnign through features for screenshots
13:10 cait1 does it work for you?
13:10 cait1 i was testing on a local ktd installaton and the table was items on detail page ins taff
13:14 oleonard cait1: It's not global. Bug 22276 only implemented it for the libraries admin page
13:14 huginn Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=22276 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, RESOLVED FIXED, Add client storage of user-selected DataTables configuration
13:14 oleonard The next step is to make it more widely applicable
13:14 cait1 oh
13:14 cait1 absolutely
13:14 cait1 tbh, the title of that bug was misleading me!
13:16 cait1 should we file a new bug?
13:16 cait1 and is this a one by one thing or can we do all theothers?
13:18 oleonard cait1: The bug laid the groundwork for wider implementation and did the libraries page as a proof of concept.
13:19 oleonard It requires case-by-case modification right now, but there's probably a smarter way to do it.
13:19 oleonard I could see us having "Save state" an option in table settings
13:20 cait1 maybe having a clear option too
13:20 cait1 but it hink just keeping it would be nice already
13:35 cait1 just adversiting a feature that is waiting for sign-off: geographic search: https://geosearch-opac.koha-su[…]l&weight_search=1
13:36 cait1 bug 31652
13:36 huginn Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=31652 new feature, P5 - low, ---, domm, Needs Signoff , Add geo-search
13:36 cait1 just had a nice presentation about this at our user meeting :)
13:36 oleonard That looks very nice!
13:37 cait1 check the advanced search
13:37 cait1 you can search for a place and km aroudn it and get results for it
13:38 cait1 hm ok, not place yet, but coordinates, but still a pretty nice start :)
13:39 cait1 uses @marc 034
13:39 cait1 @marc 034
13:39 huginn cait1: The coded form of the mathematical data contained in field 255 (Mathematical Data Area) of the bibliographic record. (Repeatable) [a,b,c,d,e,f,g,h,j,k,m,n,p,r,s,t,x,y,z,2,6,8]
13:39 oleonard Everyone knows the coordinates to all their favorite libraries :D
13:40 cait1 i guess translating a place name to coordnates woudl be logical next step :)
13:44 ashimema that is pretty cool
13:45 cait1 they mentioned using authorities with coorrdinates too - nto sure if that was implemented yet or not, but it would make addng places etc. easy in cataloguing
13:46 cait1 domm[m]: ?
13:59 domm[m] not implemented yet
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14:00 domm[m] translating place name to coord will be done via
14:00 domm[m] but also not implemented yet
14:01 domm[m] The current patch is the basic proof-of-concept that we can index geo-points and search/find them
14:11 cait1 keeping things smaller is a good thing - but was lso hopin you had more planned :)
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16:26 reiveune bye
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16:46 MatthewRoss[m] Good Morning. We are using Koha's Stable releases on a Debian VM, and just upgraded to 22.11. Now I'm being asked to login to the admin interface, but none of our prevoius logins are working. Neither are my original admin credentials (documented from original install years ago), nor any of the listed users/password in the koha-conf.xml file. Are there Debian specific upgrade instructions?
16:47 MatthewRoss[m] Oh, and the admin interfce is showing the Web Installer. Hopefully, the upgrade did not wipe our system, and this is just part of the upgrade procedure...
17:17 caroline MathewWood[m], when I get the web installer, its because the database didn't update. I manually run and then I get the normal login screen... Maybe confirm with someone else to make sure since it may not be the same situation as me
17:22 MatthewRoss[m] I just tried running Got a Perl error: "Can't locate C4/ in @INC (you may need to install the C4::Context module)" I'm not perl guru, but I'll find how to get that installed and try running it again.
17:23 caroline that seems like a basic thing to be missing...
17:24 MatthewRoss[m] I am running Debian 9 (Stretch).
17:29 oleonard MatthewRoss[m]: C4/ is part of Koha itself, not a dependency which needs to be installed.
17:30 caroline do we know if 22.11 is compatible with Debian 9? I know we had to upgrade from 10 to 11 for 22.05, but it might just have been regular upkeep... I'm not a dev nor a sysadmin, so I don't really know
17:30 MatthewRoss[m] Okay. That make sense as all my googlefu is returning Koha results.
17:30 ashimema ah..
17:31 ashimema we're no longer testing against D9 for 22.11.. as D9 is EOL
17:31 ashimema I've not actually tried to be honest...
17:32 MatthewRoss[m] Okay. Thanks. I'll backup my databases and try to upgrade debian.
17:32 ashimema mtj may be able to help more there.. he has been in charge of the packaging for that
17:32 ashimema sorry Matthew.. never Iike being the bearer of potentially bad news
17:32 MatthewRoss[m] No worries. I have snapshots from before the upgrade. Worst case cenario is going back to 21.xx
17:33 ashimema my team are just getting up to speed again having taken on release maintenance for 22.11.. great to see an early adopter.. but beware this was a huge release so there are likely to be at least a few UI bugs (the new staff interface touched a huge amount)..
17:33 ashimema I'd love to have some early adopters.. but please report the bugs you find so we can get them fixed up nice and quick 🙂
17:35 MatthewRoss[m] No problem. Where's the right place to report bugs? Oh, I see you have a bugzilla. Got it.
17:38 ashimema perfect 🙂
17:38 ashimema thankyou 😄
17:40 * cait[m] waves
17:40 caroline thanks oleonard and ashimema!
17:42 caroline cait[m], did you finish your presentation?
17:45 cait[m] yes :)
17:46 cait[m] we had a good outcome today too  up to 170 people for the german speaking users meeting
17:47 caroline wow! that's awesome!
17:48 ashimema Well done Cait m wow
17:48 davidnind cait++
17:57 cait[m] it was our 5th event, it's a team effort,  people from different organisations organizing
17:59 cait[m] but really happy we had so many people attending :)
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19:11 tuxayo > up to 170 people for the german speaking users meeting
19:11 tuxayo koha-de++
19:45 MatthewRoss[m] Quick update for the currious: I tried to update Debian 9 -> 11 using info here:[…]upgrading.en.html - Upgrade was successful, but I was still receiving errors. I was able to login to the Web Updater, but it had it's own errors during database update. (Referencing Bug 29144, "Row Size too large.") I at this point abandoned the upgrade and restored my VM from earlier snapshot. I'll
19:45 MatthewRoss[m] be looking to do an upgrade via a clean install during winter break, or possibly transision to a hosted Koha.
19:45 huginn Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=29144 enhancement, P5 - low, ---,, RESOLVED FIXED, Move branches.opac_info to AdditionalContents allowing multi language
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22:28 tuxayo Matthew Ross: «it had it's own errors during database update» So you are also updating Koha and not only the OS
22:29 tuxayo The OS upgrade might or might not be related.
22:31 tuxayo Matthew Ross: "Row Size too large." Just a guess: you can compared the structure of the failing table(s) to the expected one:[…]kohastructure.sql
22:32 tuxayo Choose the right branch before comparing: pick the same version as you current version
22:33 tuxayo Sometime old installs have some differences in the structure. Like a column could be of a wrong type because a past database upgrade have something wrong.
22:41 dcook Old Debian databases also have a structural issue
22:41 dcook Using... COMPACT instead of DYNAMIC or something
22:42 dcook bug 28267
22:42 huginn Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=28267 critical, P1 - high, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Koha-common package upgrade problem from 20.05.xx to 20.11.04-1

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