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reiveune |
hello |
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alex_ |
Bonjour |
| 09:03 |
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ashimema |
Morning |
| 10:03 |
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cait1 |
hola #koha |
| 10:51 |
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ashimema |
I forget.. |
| 10:51 |
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ashimema |
whats our procedure for marking a bug as spam |
| 10:51 |
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ashimema |
bug 31295 |
| 10:51 |
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huginn |
Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=31295 is not accessible. |
| 10:51 |
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ashimema |
oh.. it's in security anyways.. lol |
| 10:51 |
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cait1 |
bug description = SPAM, Closed INVALIED and mark the comments urls and attachements as non-public |
| 10:52 |
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cait1 |
i just did it |
| 10:52 |
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cait1 |
I marked the other earlier, but that one had escaped |
| 10:53 |
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Joubu |
I also mark the user as spammer |
| 10:53 |
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Joubu |
Admin > user > search > View > Edit > Disable text: "spammer" |
| 10:53 |
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ashimema |
nice one |
| 10:54 |
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ashimema |
ah.. not a user i can find.. |
| 10:55 |
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ashimema |
aha.. already disabled. |
| 10:55 |
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Joubu |
I disabled it already |
| 10:55 |
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ashimema |
cool |
| 10:55 |
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ashimema |
thanks 🙂 |
| 10:55 |
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Joubu |
31295, I don't know which one is the other one |
| 10:56 |
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ashimema |
? |
| 10:59 |
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Joubu |
cait1 was refering to an "other earlier" |
| 11:05 |
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perplexedtheta |
Another packaging question. This time, about getting tests to pass; do we tend to use the unstable Debian suite, even when building stable releases? Because using 21.11 doesn't seem to be working well. |
| 11:06 |
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perplexedtheta |
Also, is there a script or dockerfile somewhere that we use to build the community packages that I could inspect and compare against my own workings? Thanks! |
| 11:06 |
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Joubu |
perplexedtheta: https://dashboard.koha-community.org/ |
| 11:06 |
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Joubu |
search for "build statuses" |
| 11:12 |
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perplexedtheta |
Brill - I should be able to go fish with that info. Thanks! |
| 11:19 |
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cait[m] |
there are instructions on the wiki for building packages - I have used that in the past |
| 11:19 |
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cait[m] |
https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]es_-_The_Easy_Way |
| 11:20 |
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cait[m] |
I believe my coworker might work with them as well, but I usually don't build them, onyl did for QA a longer while ago |
| 11:20 |
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perplexedtheta |
Thanks, yeah the packages build fine but the tests keep failing! I'm beginning to think a better workflow might be to do the tests separate from the package building, using the KTD. |
| 11:21 |
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* perplexedtheta |
will need to think long and hard... |
| 11:21 |
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cait[m] |
some tests might assume the sample data |
| 11:21 |
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cait[m] |
that could explain why they fail |
| 11:22 |
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ashimema |
mason will likely be around a bit again later.. |
| 11:22 |
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ashimema |
I'd be interested to know if he passes the no-test switch to pbuilder |
| 11:22 |
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ashimema |
as you suggested cait, it might be as simple as the test data not being present.. |
| 11:24 |
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ashimema |
What we're aiming to do at ptfs-e is start building packages from our own branch much more regularly and use that in production instead of the myriad of different install types and customisation we currently have.. but I added the caveat that we must make sure our custom branch has all the tests passing before we autobuild a package and roll it out 😜 |
| 11:24 |
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ashimema |
to catch my mistakes in backports 😜 |
| 11:24 |
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cait[m] |
I usually stay away form changes that could break tests :) |
| 11:25 |
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cait[m] |
but we built our own and have for years, quite happy with it |
| 11:25 |
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perplexedtheta |
Definitely interested to see how Mason does it. If he uses the nocheck flag, what am I doing wrong 😅 |
| 11:25 |
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cait[m] |
one package for all too |
| 11:25 |
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perplexedtheta |
doesn't* |
| 11:25 |
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perplexedtheta |
cait: that would be nice. |
| 11:25 |
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* perplexedtheta |
dreams of a standardised world |
| 11:27 |
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cait[m] |
we stay very close to master in general, mostly the change are about things we cannot share back (custom MARC fields, indexes, XSLT, internal API) |
| 11:38 |
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oleonard-away |
o/ |
| 11:40 |
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cait[m] |
hi oleonard ): |
| 11:40 |
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cait[m] |
:) |
| 11:48 |
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ashimema |
I have a cataloguing question.. |
| 11:49 |
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ashimema |
it looks like with bug 30718 the dataaccessioned value builder plugin went from saving an iso date in the marc records to saving a localised one.. |
| 11:49 |
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huginn |
Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=30718 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart+koha, Needs documenting , Use flatpickr's altInput option everywhere |
| 11:49 |
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ashimema |
was that a) intended.. and b) is that correct? |
| 11:50 |
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cait[m] |
it should save an iso still -the field in the db won't store anything else |
| 11:50 |
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cait[m] |
but you should now be able to enter a localised format |
| 11:51 |
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cait[m] |
952$d? |
| 11:53 |
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ashimema |
brill.. |
| 11:53 |
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ashimema |
that makes sense |
| 11:53 |
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cait[m] |
I haven't tested, but that would be expected behaviour |
| 11:53 |
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ashimema |
I'm getting my data person to double check what the customer is saying.. I have a feeling they're confused |
| 11:54 |
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cait[m] |
we also fixed the display in the table above i tihnk... |
| 11:54 |
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cait[m] |
or maybe that was already in an earlier version - so it should always show localised everywhere |
| 12:08 |
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oleonard |
UNIMARC has sooo many plugins |
| 12:13 |
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Joubu |
...and always iso in db |
| 12:31 |
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Joubu |
@later tell mtj do you agree with 32349? |
| 12:31 |
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huginn |
Joubu: The operation succeeded. |
| 12:35 |
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| 12:45 |
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ashimema |
is it just me or is bz struggling today |
| 12:45 |
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ashimema |
everything feels slow |
| 13:03 |
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ashimema |
looks like we don't install Net::OAuth2::AuthorizationServer by default still... should we just have that as a dependency and install with the rest of our deps at this point? |
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Tylathos |
Hey all :) My Koha installation is running since 2016. Which means it still runs with zebra. Are there instructions how to change to elasticsearch? |
| 13:38 |
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Tylathos |
I always updated my installation, so it is on version 2022.11 |
| 14:02 |
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cait1 |
Tylathos: maybe this helps: https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]ian#Elasticsearch |
| 14:02 |
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cait1 |
I think it has all the bits and pieces I would expect |
| 14:03 |
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cait1 |
also has a note for 22.11 - so that looks good |
| 14:03 |
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| 14:21 |
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ashimema |
is bugzilla down for anyone else? |
| 14:21 |
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caroline |
yes, it's very slow |
| 14:22 |
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ashimema |
wonder if it's time to consider sharing the load of that server a bit more.. I think it still sits of a personal server of rangi's.. not 100% sure.. amazing he's been donating this critical infra for so many years.... |
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| 14:57 |
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ashimema |
next meeting? |
| 14:59 |
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cait1 |
next irc meeting? |
| 14:59 |
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cait1 |
next meetings? |
| 14:59 |
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cait1 |
we are missing wahanui |
| 15:00 |
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ashimema |
it's in a few minutes isn't it 😜 |
| 15:00 |
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cait1 |
liek right now |
| 15:00 |
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cait1 |
tuxayo: ? |
| 15:00 |
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* cait1 |
still has to finish her slides for tomorrow's user meeting |
| 15:03 |
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ashimema |
well.. if everyone has forgotten.. we should probably just reschedule |
| 15:09 |
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thd |
Next week is a general meeting. Two meetings in one day tend to have poor attendance at one of them. |
| 15:11 |
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thd |
Today might be a slightly difficult day for US attendance with too close a proximity to the Thanksgiving holiday. |
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| 15:21 |
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cait1 |
ok, so maybe we have general next week and then reschedule the dev after? woudl work for me today |
| 15:21 |
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ashimema |
works for me |
| 15:41 |
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oleonard |
Anyone around who works with UNIMARC plugins? I'm confused about some of the scripts |
| 15:41 |
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oleonard |
For instance: value_builder/unimarc_field_123d.pl opens plugin_launcher.pl?plugin_name=unimarc_field_123g |
| 15:43 |
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oleonard |
I would think 123g should be 123d.... copy-paste error? Or intentional? It means the link in the editor for 123d, 123e, and 123f all trigger the same plugin as 123g |
| 15:43 |
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oleonard |
If it's intentional, why do the templates for 123d, 123e, and 123f exist? |
| 15:43 |
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cait1 |
hm it could be a typo |
| 15:44 |
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cait1 |
it's likely one was used as the base for the others - could you make a note on the bug maybe? |
| 15:45 |
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oleonard |
We need something like the bat signal but for UNIMARC |
| 15:45 |
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cait1 |
tcohen++ mtj++ btw |
| 15:46 |
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cait1 |
got a report about fixed German package installation today - thank you |
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Joubu |
tcohen: you shouldn't have pushed 32350 |
| 16:05 |
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Joubu |
it wasn't supposed to be pushed without the follow-up bug |
| 16:09 |
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reiveune |
bye |
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| 16:12 |
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cait1 |
bz really has an issue and i need to look up stufff |
| 16:15 |
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cait1 |
I am getting gateway timeouts now |
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| 16:57 |
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emlam |
Is Bugzilla down? I keep getting a 504 time-out error |
| 16:57 |
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Joubu |
yes |
| 16:57 |
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Joubu |
Did someone email rangi[m]? |
| 17:02 |
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Joubu |
@later tell tcohen 32370 - set_encoded_data need to be removed then |
| 17:02 |
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huginn |
Joubu: The operation succeeded. |
| 17:03 |
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Joubu |
@later tell tcohen 32370 - JSONField.t has a copyright 2019 |
| 17:03 |
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huginn |
Joubu: The operation succeeded. |
| 17:11 |
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cait1 |
I can try to catch rangi via messenger |
| 17:17 |
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caroline |
I'm a bit stumped... A library is asking me if its possible to permit onshelf holds from another branch only if the patron's branch doesn't have an item or the item is out |
| 17:17 |
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caroline |
I feel like it's probably branch-specific rules? But I'm not sure |
| 17:17 |
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oleonard |
Hi caroline |
| 17:18 |
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caroline |
my brain is broken on that point |
| 17:18 |
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oleonard |
Man it is hard to function without Bugzilla isn't it? So instinctual to go there for info |
| 17:18 |
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caroline |
hi oleonard! |
| 17:18 |
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cait1 |
yes and no |
| 17:18 |
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cait1 |
look for available in the system preferences |
| 17:19 |
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caroline |
git it OPACHoldsIfAvailableAtPickup |
| 17:19 |
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cait1 |
hm ok, that might be about pickup location only |
| 17:19 |
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cait1 |
yeah |
| 17:19 |
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cait1 |
you can't place a hold for pikcup at your own library if they have it on shelf |
| 17:19 |
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cait1 |
but maybe still something youcould suggest? |
| 17:19 |
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caroline |
would never have thought of sysprefs... I was turning the circ rules inside out in my head to make sense of their question |
| 17:20 |
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cait1 |
oleonard: yeah, i keep clicking links too :( doesn't help I am preparing a "new features in 22.11" presentation |
| 17:20 |
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tuxayo |
> next meetings?... (full message at <https://matrix.org/_matrix/med[…]csQvLapWipYlVMgPc>) |
| 17:20 |
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caroline |
cait1, which version are you coming from? |
| 17:20 |
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cait1 |
this i for a user meeting tomorrow - 22.11 only, but there is enough there |
| 17:21 |
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caroline |
I have the list of features from 21.11 and 22.05 in a spreadsheet |
| 17:21 |
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caroline |
ok nvm then |
| 17:21 |
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cait1 |
tuxayo: i had scheduled it when you ran out -f or the earlier timeslot |
| 17:21 |
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cait1 |
was added t the calendar like that too |
| 17:21 |
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| 17:21 |
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cait1 |
caroline: thx for offering :) actually have those too, problem is I am also translting and sometimes I am not sure what something does... |
| 17:22 |
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tuxayo |
Oops, I assumed it would continue to alternate and didn't look the calendar. |
| 17:24 |
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caroline |
cait1, yeah the bug title isn't always descriptive of what it actually does... |
| 17:24 |
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caroline |
maybe the release notes? |
| 17:26 |
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cait1 |
sandboxe are broken too |
| 17:26 |
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cait1 |
i feel sabotaged |
| 17:26 |
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cait1 |
[30880] Expand OPACResultsUnavailableGroupingBy to have a ‘branch only’ option |
| 17:26 |
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caroline |
I'm sure your users will understand... |
| 17:26 |
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cait1 |
[30195] Suggestion form in OPAC should use ISBN to FindDuplicate |
| 17:27 |
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cait1 |
yeah, those are missing notes (of course) |
| 17:27 |
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cait1 |
is the second that we also check iof the isbn exists already when suggesting a suggestion si a duplicate? |
| 17:27 |
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tuxayo |
> i feel sabotaged |
| 17:27 |
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tuxayo |
me too, bugzilla throws "504 Gateway Time-out" |
| 17:28 |
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caroline |
cait1, that's what I understand from the 2nd |
| 17:28 |
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cait1 |
30880 is really hard |
| 17:29 |
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caroline |
yeah... there is already branch, so I'm not sure what branch only would do |
| 17:29 |
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tuxayo |
bug 30880 |
| 17:29 |
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cait1 |
no wahanui |
| 17:30 |
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cait1 |
Expand OPACResultsUnavailableGroupingBy to have a ‘branch only’ option |
| 17:30 |
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tuxayo |
it's supposed to be huginn / huginn` |
| 17:30 |
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cait1 |
well tehy look it up on bugzilla... |
| 17:30 |
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tuxayo |
@test |
| 17:30 |
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caroline |
I'm not sure of the previous behaviour either. Is it that it groups by branch then status, but the new option will only group by branch? |
| 17:30 |
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cait1 |
not sure |
| 17:30 |
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huginn |
tuxayo: I suck |
| 17:30 |
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caroline |
aw :( |
| 17:30 |
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cait1 |
tuxayo: bugzilla is down, it can't work |
| 17:31 |
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tuxayo |
ok, it's known, that's what I wanted to confirm. |
| 17:31 |
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tuxayo |
thanks! |
| 17:33 |
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| 17:33 |
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Lazaro_Arcos |
Hi, I need price for support for instalation, configuration y migration of data at koha |
| 17:33 |
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Lazaro_Arcos |
some can help me? |
| 17:34 |
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caroline |
Lazaro_Arcos, check the paid support list https://koha-community.org/support/paid-support/ |
| 17:34 |
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caroline |
(at the bottom, you can check by country or continent) |
| 17:34 |
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caroline |
You have to contact the providers directly |
| 17:38 |
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tuxayo |
Having bugzilla down reminds of this XKCD comic: https://xkcd.com/303/ |
| 17:38 |
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caroline |
lol! |
| 17:44 |
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cait1 |
oleonard: maybe youknow that... bug 22276 - we now remember if someone changed their column settings |
| 17:44 |
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cait1 |
how long is that kept? |
| 17:44 |
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cait1 |
session? |
| 17:46 |
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oleonard |
I can't remember off the top of my head but I think there isn't a mechanism to delete it. It stays in LocalStorage until someone changes it |
| 17:47 |
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cait1 |
so localstorage would even be more long term i guess? |
| 17:48 |
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cait1 |
logner than logout? |
| 17:48 |
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oleonard |
We delete some LocalStorage items upon logout but not that |
| 17:55 |
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tuxayo |
bugzilla works! |
| 17:56 |
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tuxayo |
confetti! |
| 17:56 |
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rangi[m] |
its someones script again |
| 17:56 |
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rangi[m] |
its always someones badly written script |
| 17:56 |
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tuxayo |
rangi++ |
| 17:56 |
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tuxayo |
So it's not an intentional DDOS? |
| 17:56 |
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ashimema |
rangi++ |
| 17:57 |
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ashimema |
nice to see you around rangi[m] 🙂 |
| 17:57 |
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tuxayo |
What are these script supposed to do? Crawl emails to spam/scam us? |
| 17:58 |
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rangi[m] |
sometimes they are script ppl in the community write themselves, this just looks like a crawler for patches |
| 17:59 |
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* ashimema |
wrote a script once, then when he realised it hit bz so hard he stopped.. |
| 17:59 |
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tuxayo |
LOL |
| 17:59 |
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ashimema |
there are some genuine mistakes.. |
| 18:00 |
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ashimema |
this was years ago.. when I was an rmaint or rm I think... we learn |
| 18:00 |
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ashimema |
hmm.. seems my adding of new builds to Jenkins either didn't work right, or exposed some stuff I need to fix in 22.11.x already |
| 18:02 |
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oleonard |
Thank you rangi[m] ! |
| 18:05 |
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rangi[m] |
https://paste.koha-community.org/19261 |
| 18:06 |
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rangi[m] |
most of the bots, then its just weird individual ones like today |
| 18:06 |
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| 18:09 |
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tuxayo |
> weird individual ones like today |
| 18:09 |
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tuxayo |
Which obviously don't look at robot.txt |
| 18:09 |
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tuxayo |
If someone wants to crawl patches, they will do regardless |
| 18:12 |
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tuxayo |
> most of the bots |
| 18:12 |
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tuxayo |
So search engines can't index our bugtracker. Hopefully that's doesn't prevent too much people from finding stuff. |
| 18:27 |
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cait1 |
rangi++ |
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| 18:54 |
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caroline |
rangi++ |
| 18:54 |
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tcohen |
bye all, good luck poland :-P |
| 19:28 |
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davidnz |
Just going to run a placeholder Development IRC meeting, since the meeting was deferred |
| 19:28 |
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davidnz |
#startmeeting Development IRC meeting 30 November 2022 |
| 19:28 |
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huginn |
Meeting started Wed Nov 30 19:28:19 2022 UTC. The chair is davidnz. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. |
| 19:28 |
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huginn |
Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. |
| 19:28 |
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huginn |
The meeting name has been set to 'development_irc_meeting_30_november_2022' |
| 19:28 |
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davidnz |
#info Agenda https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]_30_November_2022 |
| 19:28 |
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davidnz |
#topic General development discussion |
| 19:28 |
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davidnz |
#info Meeting deferred for a fortnight (so as not to clash with the General IRC meeting next week) |
| 19:28 |
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davidnz |
#info IRC discussion: http://irc.koha-community.org/[…]2-11-30#i_2464721 |
| 19:28 |
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davidnz |
#topic Set time of next meeting |
| 19:29 |
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davidnz |
#info Next meeting: 14 December 2022, 15:00 UTC |
| 19:29 |
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davidnz |
#endmeeting |
| 19:29 |
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huginn |
Meeting ended Wed Nov 30 19:29:04 2022 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) |
| 19:29 |
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huginn |
Minutes: https://meetings.koha-communit[…]-11-30-19.28.html |
| 19:29 |
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huginn |
Minutes (text): https://meetings.koha-communit[…]2-11-30-19.28.txt |
| 19:29 |
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huginn |
Log: https://meetings.koha-communit[…]30-19.28.log.html |
| 19:40 |
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davidnz |
FYI for the next development IRC meeting: agenda page created (https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]14_December_2022) and meeting added to the calendar |
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davidnind |
Please ignore - just testing what IRC username is recorded in the IRC log |
| 20:47 |
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tuxayo |
davidnind++ |
| 20:47 |
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tuxayo |
Should we plan another meeting for Oceania-Americas? |
| 20:49 |
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davidnind |
the 28th is straight after Christmas (for countries that observe this) |
| 20:50 |
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davidnind |
so maybe for 11th January - although many people go on holiday in January in the southern hemisphere (particularly New Zealand and Australia) |
| 20:51 |
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davidnind |
I'll add to the agenda for discusion |
| 20:57 |
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tuxayo |
davidnind: thanks, you definitely know best about adequate dates for the region :) |
| 20:58 |
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ashimema |
Thanks davidnind |
| 21:25 |
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davidnind |
tuxayo: for NZ/Australia - not so much for USA |
| 21:27 |
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tuxayo |
Right, I forgot again that this meeting is necessary for US East & Mountain timezone. 15 UTC is too early. |
| 21:42 |
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cait[m] |
oleonard: hm the database column changes of my user don't appear to be stored - testing on the detail page making issues and renewals visible. Reloading the page they always reset to invisible. Same for making the home library invisible... but I recently tested on another table it was ok there. Could it be some config issue? |
