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tuxayo |
mtj / mason around? How do you feel about advertising ES 7 support? News from last time: I tried to find real world usage and Lund University are using it since many months, even before Koha support they submitted the ES 7 patches. |
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mtj |
hi #koha |
| 01:29 |
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mtj |
looks like VDF has fixed the internets |
| 01:30 |
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mtj |
tcohen or Joubu, could you push a new 22.11 git branch please |
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mtj |
tuxayo: i think its ok to say 21.11 supports ES7 |
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mtj |
we have ES7 tests passing on master for last 3-ish months |
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tuxayo |
mtj: 21.11 ? All branches have the test passing since the last 3-ish months |
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tuxayo |
*tests |
| 03:08 |
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mtj |
hi tuxayo, i think thats probably correct :) |
| 03:08 |
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mtj |
https://jenkins.koha-community.org/view/21.11/ |
| 03:09 |
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mtj |
ES7 tests are passing for last 2 deb and ubuntu-lts releases, for 21.11 |
| 03:10 |
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tuxayo |
I meant, why only 21.11? |
| 03:12 |
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mtj |
aah, sorry was a typo |
| 03:13 |
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mtj |
tuxayo: i think its ok to say 22.11 supports ES7 |
| 03:13 |
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tuxayo |
aaah lol |
| 03:14 |
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tuxayo |
mtj: what's missing for the others? Or maybe after one or two months we can also advertise support for the others. |
| 03:14 |
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mtj |
i was worried that we pushed ES7 stuff to 22.05 mid cycle, that broke ES6 :/ |
| 03:15 |
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mtj |
..or forced users to upgrade from ES6 to ES7 mid cycle |
| 03:15 |
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tuxayo |
> ..or forced users to upgrade from ES6 to ES7 mid cycle |
| 03:15 |
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tuxayo |
No way, thankfully that was never the plan |
| 03:16 |
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tuxayo |
> i was worried that we pushed ES7 stuff to 22.05 mid cycle, that broke ES6 :/ |
| 03:16 |
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tuxayo |
Indeed, that's the risk with adding support for a new version. ES6 being EOL kinda makes the tradeoff necessary. |
| 03:16 |
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tuxayo |
> that broke ES6 :/ |
| 03:16 |
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tuxayo |
Wait, really? |
| 03:16 |
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tuxayo |
Was there something else besides requiring 6.8 instead of of 6.X ? |
| 03:18 |
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mtj |
hmm, no... i was just *worried* that we might break ES6 |
| 03:20 |
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mtj |
..as you said, we did force ES6 users to v6.8 |
| 03:21 |
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mtj |
i think we should recommend ES7 for new 21.11 installs |
| 03:21 |
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tuxayo |
> hmm, no... i was just *worried* that we might break ES6 |
| 03:21 |
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tuxayo |
Ah good, no known trouble ^o^ |
| 03:21 |
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tuxayo |
*22.11 |
| 03:21 |
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mtj |
aah, oops |
| 03:22 |
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mtj |
i might need for covfefe |
| 03:23 |
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tuxayo |
> i think we should recommend ES7 for new 21.11 installs |
| 03:23 |
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tuxayo |
Ok, so advertise and recommend ES7 for 22.11. And after some time advertise support for the other branches? (meanwhile write that as experimental support?) |
| 03:25 |
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tuxayo |
> i might need for covfefe |
| 03:25 |
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tuxayo |
mtj if you meant coffee then yes the last word makes the phrase very true :P |
| 03:25 |
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tuxayo |
Or maybe it's that? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Covfefe |
| 03:27 |
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mtj |
hmm, i guess we can now recommed ES7 for all new installs, on all supported branches |
| 03:27 |
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mtj |
...as we now have ES7 tests passing on stable/oldstable/o-o-stable |
| 03:27 |
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tuxayo |
ok let's do that then :) |
| 03:27 |
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tuxayo |
Thanks for your time |
| 03:29 |
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mtj |
...and we recommend thats existing installs should upgrade to ES7, on the latest version of supported branches |
| 03:31 |
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mtj |
all supported koha versions now require minimum of ES 6.8 - we recommend latest version of ES 7 |
| 03:33 |
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tuxayo |
ok |
| 03:35 |
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mtj |
..its just my opinion, but seems like the best approach? |
| 03:37 |
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tuxayo |
Wait, recommending ES 7 while it's the non libre version? Can we write that ES 6 is end of life and that ES 7 isn't libre and then sysadmins will deal with that crappy choice to make? ^^" |
| 03:40 |
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tuxayo |
Sorry gotta go, you can answer here and I will follow up by email. |
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mtj |
hi tuxayo, hmm... i had forgotten about the ES7 license change :/ |
| 05:33 |
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mtj |
so, technically.. koha supports ES6, ES7 and OS1 (opensearch 1.x) |
| 05:35 |
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mtj |
i personally think OS1 is the best choice of the 3, based on its license |
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mtj |
perhaps we provide license/support info for all ES versions/variants - and let users decide |
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mtj |
..but recommend OS1 :p |
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reiveune |
hello |
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ashimema |
morning |
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cait |
good morning #koha |
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fridolin |
good mor.eve.ning |
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cait |
hello fridolin |
| 07:32 |
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fridolin |
releasssssssssssssse |
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fridolin |
^^ |
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fridolin |
I'm jumping on building a demo |
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marcelr |
o/ |
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alex_ |
Bonjour |
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marcelr |
hi alex_ |
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magnuse |
\o/ |
| 08:31 |
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magnuse |
wow, so many cool New features |
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| 09:28 |
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Joubu |
cait: https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]ces?veaction=edit |
| 09:28 |
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Joubu |
cait: can you delete this page? It contains incorrect info |
| 09:34 |
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cait |
I think we cannot delete pag |
| 09:34 |
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cait |
let me hae a look later |
| 09:35 |
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cait |
just on break from our user meeting |
| 09:36 |
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cait |
actually hat doe work, although it shoudln#t |
| 09:36 |
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cait |
and it won't now since we check email format on prefs, but we use that (using SQL) |
| 09:36 |
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cait |
not in KohaAdminEmailAddress, but in ReplyTo for us... but it does technically work |
| 09:37 |
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Joubu |
IIRC it explodes in Koha::Email when we send the email, but I haven't tried |
| 09:37 |
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ashimema |
Interesting.. I'd never thought about adding it that way |
| 09:37 |
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cait |
not anymore I think |
| 09:37 |
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cait |
well we are on 20.11 but already with Koha::Email |
| 09:37 |
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Joubu |
related to bug 9815 |
| 09:37 |
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huginn` |
Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9815 trivial, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , <<branches.branchemail>> can't contain "The Library" <library example.com> |
| 09:37 |
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ashimema |
might be a nice feature to have a display name option.. never really looked into it myself |
| 09:37 |
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cait |
and we have alays added to branchemail and kohaadminaddress I think |
| 09:38 |
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cait |
(was wrong about the reply to) |
| 09:38 |
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cait |
yah, but the problem now is you can't enter, not that it won't do it |
| 09:38 |
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Joubu |
ha |
| 09:40 |
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Joubu |
should I restore the wiki page then? |
| 09:41 |
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ashimema |
Well.. the wiki page is wrong at the moment as you can't enter the info.. so I think it's safer deleted for now.. |
| 09:41 |
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ashimema |
but I wouldn't be against adding a display name option to our email prefs as a feature.. which should get properly documented in the manual and not a work around on the wiki. |
| 09:42 |
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Joubu |
if it's working internally we should simply adjust the JS check |
| 09:50 |
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cait |
back in meeting, read later |
| 10:36 |
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mtj |
hie #koha, the new packages are pushed |
| 10:37 |
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mtj |
21.11/stable KTD looks happy 🰠|
| 10:37 |
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mtj |
s/21/22/ |
| 10:39 |
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ashimema |
mtj++ |
| 10:39 |
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ashimema |
and thanks for helping my colleague over the weekend mtj 🙂 |
| 10:39 |
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mtj |
hiya np :) |
| 10:39 |
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perplexedtheta |
Real top work folks, and a big thanks getting that sorted. Aptly is now mirroring happily! <3 |
| 10:40 |
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mtj |
perplexedtheta: i think the broken dbgsym is now removed |
| 10:40 |
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* ashimema |
is tempted to add perplexedtheta to the packaging team retrospectively to learn from you and lend a hand ;P |
| 10:40 |
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perplexedtheta |
Yep - awesome, thanks <3 |
| 10:41 |
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mtj |
ashimema, i think the more the merrier, there is bunch of stuff to do |
| 10:43 |
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mtj |
ive made a start at upstreaming some of our pkgs to debian-perl team |
| 10:43 |
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ashimema |
awesome |
| 10:44 |
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mtj |
...so thats a worthwhile project for 'the team' :) |
| 10:46 |
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mtj |
perhaps our new LTS releases could eventually be upstreamed to debian? |
| 10:46 |
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magnuse |
mtj++ |
| 10:47 |
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mtj |
thanks magnuse 🻠|
| 10:47 |
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ashimema |
that would be cool |
| 10:48 |
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perplexedtheta |
mtj: that would be quite the exciting prospect! |
| 10:49 |
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mtj |
hmm, that could be a 5 year commitment, to support until debian o-o-stable.. |
| 10:50 |
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mtj |
might be a bit too ambitious |
| 10:55 |
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mtj |
i think the general plan is to use gitlab runners to build pkgs |
| 10:55 |
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ashimema |
excellent |
| 10:55 |
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mtj |
build docker images |
| 10:56 |
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Joubu |
5 years is a lot, we have been happy lately to drop support for old versions.. |
| 10:56 |
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mtj |
..poss. start moving from jenkins to gitlab for test suite stuff? |
| 10:57 |
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mtj |
Joubu: yeah, 5 years is a lot |
| 10:57 |
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ashimema |
I think our LTS cycle seems to want to support for 3.5 years if I remember correctly |
| 10:57 |
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ashimema |
https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]ning#LTS_Releases |
| 10:58 |
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ashimema |
so 5 years is a big commitment beyond what we're already doing |
| 10:58 |
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perplexedtheta |
Gitlab is something I think we've discussed as being keen to use more of recently internally, too. Happy to learn a new suite |
| 10:58 |
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* ashimema |
also thinks we're already rather stretched for rmaints + qa volunteers |
| 10:58 |
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Joubu |
mtj: opinion on bug 32352? |
| 10:59 |
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huginn` |
Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=32352 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart+koha, In Discussion , xt/check_makefile.t failing on node_modules |
| 11:08 |
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mtj |
Joubu: i think your fix for 32352 look good |
| 11:09 |
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mtj |
i cant think of a problem with it :) |
| 11:09 |
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mtj |
i do have a jenkins build to test a tar install somewhere.. |
| 11:11 |
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mtj |
..it could be useful to test that the tar install, still works as expected |
| 11:20 |
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Joubu |
mtj: if we are using this method for other xt tests it means that they will fail if run outside of a git repo. Did you get that? |
| 11:20 |
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Joubu |
Aren't you running some of them sometimes outside of the git repo? |
| 11:26 |
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Joubu |
tcohen: "22.11.00: Update history.txt" - it modifies the timestamp for old versions :-( |
| 11:30 |
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Joubu |
tcohen: "22.11.00: Update kohastructure.sql" - weird all the changes there |
| 11:32 |
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mtj |
Joubu: oops, i missed the git dependency on 32352 |
| 11:33 |
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mtj |
..i dont think i run the tests in a non-git situation |
| 11:36 |
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mtj |
i think its probably still ok - its unlikely that it would cause a problem |
| 11:51 |
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mtj |
Joubu: re: "22.11.00: Update kohastructure.sql", the changes seem to make sense |
| 11:52 |
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mtj |
https://mariadb.com/kb/en/sett[…]ons/#column-level |
| 11:53 |
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mtj |
"Character sets and collations can also be specified for columns ... If neither collation nor character set is provided, the table default is used." |
| 11:54 |
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mtj |
it seems that the 'COLLATE utf8mb4_unicode_ci' defs for columns are not required |
| 11:55 |
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mtj |
...if they are defined for the table |
| 11:58 |
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tcohen |
hola #koha |
| 11:58 |
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tcohen |
Joubu: the collations at the column level always looked incorrect |
| 12:06 |
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* ashimema |
see's that as a nice cleanup actually 🙂 |
| 12:06 |
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mtj |
hi tcohen, congrats on the release |
| 12:07 |
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ashimema |
hmm.. as for history.. I'm not sure how we do that these days.. I got lost in the process at the last set of refinements |
| 12:07 |
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ashimema |
indeed.. congrats tcohen 🙂 |
| 12:16 |
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ashimema |
any idea how we go about updating the history on the website too? |
| 12:17 |
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tcohen |
The process for history.txt is described in Taiga |
| 12:17 |
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tcohen |
I'm not sure why/how those timestamps got changed |
| 12:20 |
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ashimema |
mm.. little strange |
| 12:23 |
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tcohen |
maybe a timezone thing? |
| 12:23 |
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ashimema |
mm.. I was wondering that.. |
| 12:23 |
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ashimema |
but it's meant to all be in unix time utc I believe |
| 12:24 |
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ashimema |
perhaps git changed how it interprets timestamps in locales or something? |
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| 12:26 |
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tcohen |
I've checked no one is missing, just some timestamp changes |
| 12:27 |
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tcohen |
can anyone help me with the tarball? |
| 12:27 |
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tcohen |
no rmaint was available on friday and all I tried failed :-D |
| 12:30 |
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tcohen |
oh I see |
| 12:30 |
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tcohen |
:-D |
| 12:30 |
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tcohen |
I was clearly tired on friday |
| 12:30 |
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Joubu |
tcohen, ashimema: yes, I was referring to 1504 insertions(+), 1418 deletions(-) |
| 12:31 |
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Joubu |
but it's coming from the SET comment lines, didn't notice at first glance |
| 12:33 |
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ashimema |
? |
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tcohen |
Joubu: right |
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Joubu |
rangi[m]: certs on https://lists.katipo.co.nz needs to be renewed |
| 13:15 |
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cait |
just for info: i tried and failed to change the website start page witht he new templates, I emailed wizzyrea for help |
| 13:15 |
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cait |
things seem to have moved around using a new template and I couldn't find the page/post/block again |
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Tylathos |
Hey, I got a problem after the upgrade on 22.11 . My mainpage of the staff interface is not translate into german. The language is installed, confirmed with koha-translate -l . Also other pages are translated. Any suggestions? |
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cait |
Tylathos: willt ry to check it out tomorrow :( annoying! |
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cait |
could you check if another langauge works ok? |
| 16:16 |
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Tylathos |
en-GB seems to work |
| 16:18 |
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cait |
maybe a good thing... but means I probably made a mistake somewhere |
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cait |
any js error by chance? (if you can look in the browser console) |
| 16:18 |
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ashimema |
we're all human cait |
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ashimema |
🙂 |
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cait |
ashimema: but we don't need to like it, right? ;) |
| 16:19 |
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ashimema |
flesh is good.. mistakes not so much 😜 |
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cait |
especially since I am presenting the new features on Thursday for user meeting and this probably won't be fixed properly until .01 - but first to find the offending string |
| 16:20 |
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ashimema |
talk of .01 already.. I've not even started to look at bugs pushed to master yet for backport |
| 16:20 |
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cait |
i meant becaus translation updates ae only pushed for releases |
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cait |
breath :) |
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PedroAmorim[m] |
hey everyone, if anyone has a couple moments to spare, I'm currently fighting bugzilla trying to do sign-off on multiple patches (5 patches) |
| 17:01 |
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PedroAmorim[m] |
after following the docs https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]ion#Signing_off_2 |
| 17:02 |
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PedroAmorim[m] |
i run git so 5 and git bz attach -e xxxxx HEAD~5 but it's always "jumping" into the 6th commit and showing signed-off by Tomas (which is said "wrong" commit) |
| 17:02 |
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PedroAmorim[m] |
for reference, this is the bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…].cgi?id=30719#c15 |
| 17:02 |
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huginn` |
Bug 30719: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, pedro.amorim, ASSIGNED , ILL should provide the ability to create batch requests |
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cait |
hm also got a report of an error 500 on the about page - if someone coudl check for a package installation 22.11? |
| 17:27 |
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cait |
PedroAmorim[m]: try HEAD~5.. |
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cait |
oh and when you run git so 5 - does that work or is there an error in the endß it won't work if you have untracked changes, you need to stash them first |
| 17:28 |
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cait |
and with that, I am out :) bye all |
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PedroAmorim[m] |
cait: wow that was it, I was missing the double dot, no way! I completely missed that! thank you so much |
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cait[m] |
:) |
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reiveune |
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cait[m] |
oleonard: around? |
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cait[m] |
Following problem: I have installed additional languages de-DE and fr-FR on current master branch with the just updated po files and the layout (header search) is broken |
| 20:27 |
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cait[m] |
hmm it looks to be working if the language hadn't been installed before |
| 20:42 |
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cait[m] |
I've filed bug 32356 |
| 20:42 |
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huginn` |
Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=32356 major, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , fr-FR installer dir /kohadevbox/koha/installer/data/mysql/fr-FR already exists. |
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cait[m] |
something is up with the translations, but could need some help there |
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cait[m] |
https://snipboard.io/7z9UBy.jpg < I have tried uninstalling/reinstalling but still stuck |
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cait[m] |
hm, reinstalling the language kinda worked (removing it first) |
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