IRC log for #koha, 2022-11-07

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03:41 tuxayo wow UAE have 1000 libraries on Koha!
03:41 tuxayo (on Hea)
03:42 tuxayo In the list we see from kindergarden to secondary schools, that's awesome
03:44 tuxayo Must be the government that decided that. Does anyone know if it's the ministry or a company that manages this? Getting them involved would be nice.
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06:54 reiveune hello
06:58 reiveune helo
06:58 Oak hello
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07:04 Alka which fields are compulsory in cataloguing ?
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08:55 magnuse Oak
09:01 Oak magnuse
09:01 Oak \o/
09:02 magnuse \o/
09:11 paulderscheid[m] morning #koha
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09:33 DawodGharaibeh[m] Hi there, I am New to Koha and I was wondering if anyone knows if Koha supports ebook downloads with copyright such as Adobe Digital Editions
09:56 Joubu @later tell tcohen follow-up patch on 32016 to push
09:56 huginn` Joubu: The operation succeeded.
10:01 tcohen hola #koha
10:17 ashimema Morning tcohen
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10:53 tcohen hola ashimema, thanks Joubu
11:11 tcohen marcelr I wrote a nice MARC::Record->shuffle method
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11:56 SupportLibrary[m] Hello. I have a question? When I select the BiblioAddsAuthorities option of "Don't allow" only the fields of type Authorities in bibliographic template  are locked. Is it possible to lock other fields from the template?
11:57 oleonard SupportLibrary[m]: It sounds like you want to go to Administration -> MARC bibliographic framework and customize the settings for various tags and subfields
11:58 oleonard It's there that specific fields can be linked to authority records, and you can also hide fields from the editor.
12:00 SupportLibrary[m] What about field that is not linked to authority record. Is it possible to be locked? So user ca not edit input
12:01 oleonard What advantage would there be to showing it locked rather than hiding it in the editor?
12:02 SupportLibrary[m] Well, for example, a field that is filled automatically by a plugin, can then be deleted and filled in by hand. If it's locked it won't be able to.
12:03 Joubu "Add guarantee" from patron detail page explodes with a 500, is that reported on bugz already?
12:05 tcohen not that I know, Joubu
12:05 tcohen please CC me
12:06 Joubu oleonard: any opinions on bug 32108? Yes, I've asked you already! :)
12:06 Joubu ha!
12:06 huginn` Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=32108 minor, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart+koha, Signed Off , Change "x" icon to replace patron when scheduling a pickup
12:10 oleonard SupportLibrary[m]: I see. I don't think that's possible.
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12:12 Joubu tcohen, kidclamp: bug 32119
12:12 huginn` Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=32119 critical, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart+koha, Needs Signoff , Cannot add new guarantee
12:14 Joubu - something weird happened here...
12:14 kidclamp what's weird there?
12:15 Joubu bullet point, and alignment
12:16 Joubu reported on bug 32120
12:16 huginn` Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=32120 minor, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Wrong display when editing a fund
12:16 oleonard The form layout changes in the redesign are turning out to be very disruptive
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12:39 Joubu oleonard, bug 32101 and bug 31944, are you considering they are different bugs?
12:39 huginn` Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=32101 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Signed Off , Add padding to floating toolbars
12:39 huginn` Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=31944 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , Toolbar is not correctly aligned
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12:44 kidclamp Joubu:alternate patch on 32119 - with yours the form defaulted to the guarantor's category - and indicated it was limited
12:45 * cait waves quickly
12:45 cait not really here again yet, but hello :)
12:47 Joubu kidclamp: yes, I had the feeling the patch was wrong
12:55 davidnind[m] hi cait - hope you are having a good break!
12:55 cait I do, thanks :)
13:02 davidnind[m] excellent!
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13:10 Pascal Hello togehter has someone already got the Problem that he can't login with another Superuser Patron even if the Password is correct. Unfortunately i can't find anything in the logs :(
13:10 cait what is the error you get?
13:10 cait and how was the superuser/superlibrarian user created?
13:14 Bill-K Hello! I have an EC2-based koha server that I run on AWS for a project I'm volunteering for.. We were having an issue with our libraries list not loading on the admin page and it seemed to be an issue from Mojolicious::Plugin::OpenAPI. In an attempt to fix this I followed to wiki's guide on using apt-get to update/upgrade our instance, but since doing so I have been unable to connect to our instance. I'm running out of IDs on how to debug the 504 that I'm ge
13:15 paulderscheid[m] Install via cpanm Bill-K
13:19 cait not usre about that one, which wiki page did you look at? I know Mason set up one for this problem
13:20 cait usuall cpan is not recommended
13:21 cait https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]ki/REST_API_Debug
13:23 tcohen Bill-K: you need to add the koha-staging repo, I think
13:24 tcohen well, what Koha version are you working on?
13:24 tcohen #koha: we've got an SSO container now for ktd
13:24 paulderscheid[m] cait is correct, was just suggesting a quick fix I use on non-prod environments.
13:24 Bill-K @cait I followed this wiki as part of the process and removed the CPAN installations. Though looking at it again it looks like my mojolicious version is only on 8.12 instead of the 9.22. How can I check what version of koha I'm on?
13:24 huginn` Bill-K: I've exhausted my database of quotes
13:24 Bill-K I normally get the koha version from the site but the site is returning 504 atm. I have SSH access though if the version is there
13:25 tcohen can you run
13:25 tcohen lsb_release -a
13:25 tcohen on the server?
13:25 Bill-K No LSB modules are available. Distributor ID: Ubuntu Description:    Ubuntu 22.04.1 LTS Release:        22.04 Codename:       jammy
13:26 tcohen and
13:26 tcohen cat /etc/apt/sources.list.d/koha*
13:26 Bill-K deb stable main
13:27 tcohen Bill-K: first, I suggest you replace 'stable' with 22.05
13:27 cait have to leave, bye all!
13:28 tcohen we are about to release 22.11 by the end of the month and you don't want to jump into that irght away
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13:28 Bill-K deb 22.05 main
13:28 Bill-K This?
13:29 tcohen yes
13:29 Bill-K Got it
13:29 tcohen apt update
13:29 tcohen and tell me if apt upgrade is telling you some packages are being kept from upgrade
13:30 tcohen you can also add jammy
13:30 tcohen deb 22.05 main jammy
13:30 tcohen please do
13:31 Bill-K done. Doing the apt update again for jammy
13:37 Bill-K apt upgrade done. The only thing that I can see that looks like any kind of potential fail was "Failed to enable unit: Unit /run/systemd/generator.late/koha-common.service is transient or generated."
13:37 tcohen can you try apt dist-upgrade
13:37 tcohen and list here the things it is going to upgrade?
13:37 tcohen I bet libmojolicious-perl is there
13:38 Bill-K I don't see it actually
13:38 Bill-K The following packages have been kept back:   grub-efi-amd64-bin grub-efi-amd64-signed 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 2 not upgraded.
13:39 Bill-K Other than that just a list of some packages that were auto installed and no longer required
13:40 tcohen hm
13:40 Bill-K My mojolicious did upgrade it seems like though: Mojolicious: 9.22 JSON::Validator: 5.08 Mojolicious::Plugin::OpenAPI: 5.05
13:40 Bill-K oh hey my instance is back up!
13:40 tcohen \o/
13:42 Bill-K We did the thing! Ty so much. Felt like a bit of a tool volunteering to run this server for them then crashing it and having no idea how to bring it back up haha\
13:42 tcohen it happens, you managed to solve it though
13:42 tcohen asked on the right places
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13:55 AndroUser tuxayo:
13:57 schnydszch tuxayo:
13:58 tcohen Joubu: I cannot even see the 'Add guarantee' link LOL
14:07 Joubu /cgi-bin/koha/members/more​ - next to edit
14:09 kidclamp https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=32122
14:09 huginn` Bug 32122: normal, P5 - low, ---, nick, Signed Off , Wrong permissions check on item circulation alerts
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14:12 tcohen Joubu: I forgot staff cannot have guarantees
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14:25 caroline git status
14:25 caroline oop sorry wrong window!
14:25 tcohen fatal: no es un repositorio git (ni ninguno de los directorios superiores): .git
14:25 caroline good morning by the way!
14:25 caroline lol tcohen!
14:29 tcohen :-D
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15:06 oleonard I kept thinking Bug 32022 hadn't been pushed because the .action fieldsets were still transparent
15:06 huginn` Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=32022 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to master , Style tweaks to fieldsets and page-section
15:06 oleonard Now I see Joubu added a follow-up
15:07 oleonard I wanted the .action fieldset to be white to create visual consistency where we lack structural consistency: Sometimes the .action fieldset is inside the related fieldset and sometimes it isn't
15:11 ashimema I added the follow-up, Joubu QA'd it
15:12 ashimema it looked like a mistake to me that the action background was white.. you set it to transparent but then it got overridden elsewhere
15:13 ashimema personally.. I actually preferred them as distinct.. though I'd rather see us also make our markup more consistent and put those actions in their own fieldsets consistently outside or the final fieldset of a form.
15:21 oleonard Oh okay
15:22 ashimema sorry.. I think it moved quick before you had a chance to see that follow-up and comment
15:22 oleonard Consistency is the goal, so either path is fine with me
15:22 ashimema I can help take on moving buttons into action fieldsets..
15:22 oleonard I noticed that davidnind was adding testing notes about the discrepancy
15:23 ashimema just QAing bug 32109 btw
15:23 huginn` Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=32109 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , Toolbar containing text links lacks spacing
15:23 ashimema and adding a follow-up to fix a similar inconsistency I spotted
15:23 ashimema oh cool.. davidnind++
15:23 ashimema hmm.. actually..
15:23 ashimema perhaps the follow-up I was about to write isn't correct..
15:24 ashimema we don't have a clear case for when a toolbar should contain text links vs buttons or whatever..
15:24 ashimema so 'selections-toolbar' works for your selections.. but there's also some filters toolbars scattered around that are almost identical styling..
15:24 ashimema I think we should perhaps synchronise those..
15:25 ashimema think 'opac problem reports' and 'checkout notes'..
15:25 ashimema those are the two I'm looking at patching..
15:25 ashimema they both add 'filters' toolbar to allow showing/hiding open/closed reports
15:25 ashimema * open/closed reports/notes
15:29 oleonard This is something we can hash out in an interface guideline, but this is my conception of it: Buttons are actions you can take with the actual "thing" being displayed (e.g. bibliographic record, patron record, etc)
15:29 oleonard Text links are actions you can take with the results displayed: check boxes, highlight/unhighlight, etc.
15:30 ashimema sounds like a good conceptual different to me..
15:30 ashimema so would you say the filters I'm talking about constitute the text links too.. I think they do..
15:31 oleonard I don't have problem reports data in my system but the checkout notes definitely
15:33 ashimema I went to write a patch and discovered they also have a <div id="toolbar"> already too
15:33 ashimema so I can't easily just use the exact same markup as that would leave us with two toolbar id's
15:33 ashimema toolbar feels a slightly odd ID to me anyway.. shouldn't it be a class.. it's a pretty generic term?
15:35 ashimema I've commented on the bug.. happy to do a follow-up if you would prefer I jump on it.
15:35 oleonard Right now we have #toolbar and .btn-toolbar which are the same style
15:35 ashimema oh really..
15:35 ashimema lol.. I missed that
15:35 oleonard #toolbar as an ID is intended to be used for "the" toolbar on the page
15:35 oleonard ashimema Look, a lot of this is just in my head XD
15:36 ashimema hehe
15:36 ashimema hence my requests and offer to help with a style guide 🙂
15:36 ashimema I thought btn-toolbar was a bootstrap thing..
15:37 oleonard It is, but we have some CSS to refine it too
15:37 ashimema ah, I see
15:39 ashimema ha.. now I look at these two toolbars I feel like they should jsut be one toolbar...
15:40 ashimema 'Mark seen | Mark not seen'
15:40 ashimema 'Select all | Clear all | Hide seen | Show all'
15:40 ashimema do those make sense one on top of the other or are they all related really..
15:40 ashimema they're also all text links
15:40 ashimema grr..
15:40 ashimema why is everything so hard.
15:40 oleonard I think those two toolbars represent the two different categories of toolbars as I described them.
15:41 oleonard Of course the issue is muddied because toolbar buttons look like text links now :|
15:41 ashimema indeed...
15:42 ashimema so to my mind it's a case of one toolbar, two styles of buttons..
15:42 ashimema ack
15:42 ashimema trie
15:42 ashimema true.. even
15:50 oleonard ashimema: In what situation does a problem report get the recipient value 'admin' ?
15:50 * ashimema has added your comments to our framapad btw..
15:51 oleonard Thanks
16:09 ashimema erm...
16:09 ashimema opac problem reports.. I have no idea I'm afraid
16:11 ashimema looks like you should be able to pick it from the opac
16:12 ashimema when submitting a report
16:12 ashimema but only if the library has an inbound_email_address and it's not equal to the KohaAdminEmailAddress
16:15 reiveune bye
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18:06 oleonard What does it mean when a commit says "grafted" ?
18:06 oleonard e.g. git show c4b37e9113
18:07 tcohen never saw thaT
18:08 tcohen maybe related to it being signed'
18:08 tcohen git show --show-signature c4b37e9113
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18:12 davidnind[m] I read this, and I'm none the wiser
18:13 davidnind[m] https://blog.developer.atlassi[…]istory-with-git/I also read this, but still not any the wiser as well
18:13 oleonard Hi davidnind[m]
18:14 davidnind[m] hi @oleonard!
18:15 oleonard Thanks as always for your thorough patch testing
18:16 davidnind[m] slowly working through the button bugs - not sure I need to be so detailed...
18:17 oleonard Probably not :) But you never know!
18:21 davidnind[m] I think I have only found one which was overlooked (search history), but also noting other inconsistencies in the UI 🙃
18:27 oleonard That has been very helpful
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18:45 tuxayo schnydszch: That root user problem is weird. Still using docker-compose version 1.25.0 ?*
18:45 tuxayo Dawod Gharaibeh: «anyone knows if Koha supports ebook downloads» What do you mean? Like having them stored in Koha?
18:46 tuxayo hi #koha :)
18:58 tcohen oleonard-away: did you sort that git message? I cannot reproduce
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19:55 ashimema davidnind is the king of testing.. he deserves more rewards.
19:56 ashimema davidnind++
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19:56 davidnind[m] 😊
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