Time  Nick              Message
03:41 tuxayo            wow UAE have 1000 libraries on Koha!
03:41 tuxayo            (on Hea)
03:42 tuxayo            In the list we see from kindergarden to secondary schools, that's awesome
03:44 tuxayo            Must be the government that decided that. Does anyone know if it's the ministry or a company that manages this? Getting them involved would be nice.
06:54 reiveune          hello
06:58 reiveune          helo
06:58 Oak               hello
07:04 Alka              which fields are compulsory in cataloguing ?
08:55 magnuse           Oak
09:01 Oak               magnuse
09:01 Oak               \o/
09:02 magnuse           \o/
09:11 paulderscheid[m]  morning #koha
09:33 DawodGharaibeh[m] Hi there, I am New to Koha and I was wondering if anyone knows if Koha supports ebook downloads with copyright such as Adobe Digital Editions
09:56 Joubu             @later tell tcohen follow-up patch on 32016 to push
09:56 huginn`           Joubu: The operation succeeded.
10:01 tcohen            hola #koha
10:17 ashimema          Morning tcohen
10:53 tcohen            hola ashimema, thanks Joubu
11:11 tcohen            marcelr I wrote a nice MARC::Record->shuffle method
11:56 SupportLibrary[m] Hello. I have a question? When I select the BiblioAddsAuthorities option of "Don't allow" only the fields of type Authorities in bibliographic template  are locked. Is it possible to lock other fields from the template?
11:57 oleonard          SupportLibrary[m]: It sounds like you want to go to Administration -> MARC bibliographic framework and customize the settings for various tags and subfields
11:58 oleonard          It's there that specific fields can be linked to authority records, and you can also hide fields from the editor.
12:00 SupportLibrary[m] What about field that is not linked to authority record. Is it possible to be locked? So user ca not edit input
12:01 oleonard          What advantage would there be to showing it locked rather than hiding it in the editor?
12:02 SupportLibrary[m] Well, for example, a field that is filled automatically by a plugin, can then be deleted and filled in by hand. If it's locked it won't be able to.
12:03 Joubu             "Add guarantee" from patron detail page explodes with a 500, is that reported on bugz already?
12:05 tcohen            not that I know, Joubu
12:05 tcohen            please CC me
12:06 Joubu             oleonard: any opinions on bug 32108? Yes, I've asked you already! :)
12:06 Joubu             ha!
12:06 huginn`           04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=32108 minor, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart+koha, Signed Off , Change "x" icon to replace patron when scheduling a pickup
12:10 oleonard          SupportLibrary[m]: I see. I don't think that's possible.
12:12 Joubu             tcohen, kidclamp: bug 32119
12:12 huginn`           04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=32119 critical, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart+koha, Needs Signoff , Cannot add new guarantee
12:14 Joubu             https://snipboard.io/mdgyUa.jpg - something weird happened here...
12:14 kidclamp          what's weird there?
12:15 Joubu             bullet point, and alignment
12:16 Joubu             reported on bug 32120
12:16 huginn`           04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=32120 minor, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Wrong display when editing a fund
12:16 oleonard          The form layout changes in the redesign are turning out to be very disruptive
12:39 Joubu             oleonard, bug 32101 and bug 31944, are you considering they are different bugs?
12:39 huginn`           04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=32101 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Signed Off , Add padding to floating toolbars
12:39 huginn`           04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=31944 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , Toolbar is not correctly aligned
12:44 kidclamp          Joubu:alternate patch on 32119 - with yours the form defaulted to the guarantor's category - and indicated it was limited
12:45 * cait            waves quickly
12:45 cait              not really here again yet, but hello :)
12:47 Joubu             kidclamp: yes, I had the feeling the patch was wrong
12:55 davidnind[m]      hi cait - hope you are having a good break!
12:55 cait              I do, thanks :)
13:02 davidnind[m]      excellent!
13:10 Pascal            Hello togehter has someone already got the Problem that he can't login with another Superuser Patron even if the Password is correct. Unfortunately i can't find anything in the logs :(
13:10 cait              what is the error you get?
13:10 cait              and how was the superuser/superlibrarian user created?
13:14 Bill-K            Hello! I have an EC2-based koha server that I run on AWS for a project I'm volunteering for.. We were having an issue with our libraries list not loading on the admin page and it seemed to be an issue from Mojolicious::Plugin::OpenAPI. In an attempt to fix this I followed to wiki's guide on using apt-get to update/upgrade our instance, but since doing so I have been unable to connect to our instance. I'm running out of IDs on how to debug the 504 that I'm ge
13:15 paulderscheid[m]  Install via cpanm Bill-K
13:19 cait              not usre about that one, which wiki page did you look at? I know Mason set up one for this problem
13:20 cait              usuall cpan is not recommended
13:21 cait              https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/REST_API_Debug
13:23 tcohen            Bill-K: you need to add the koha-staging repo, I think
13:24 tcohen            well, what Koha version are you working on?
13:24 tcohen            #koha: we've got an SSO container now for ktd
13:24 paulderscheid[m]  cait is correct, was just suggesting a quick fix I use on non-prod environments.
13:24 Bill-K            @cait I followed this wiki as part of the process and removed the CPAN installations. Though looking at it again it looks like my mojolicious version is only on 8.12 instead of the 9.22. How can I check what version of koha I'm on?
13:24 huginn`           Bill-K: I've exhausted my database of quotes
13:24 Bill-K            I normally get the koha version from the site but the site is returning 504 atm. I have SSH access though if the version is there
13:25 tcohen            can you run
13:25 tcohen            lsb_release -a
13:25 tcohen            on the server?
13:25 Bill-K            No LSB modules are available. Distributor ID: Ubuntu Description:    Ubuntu 22.04.1 LTS Release:        22.04 Codename:       jammy
13:26 tcohen            and
13:26 tcohen            cat /etc/apt/sources.list.d/koha*
13:26 Bill-K            deb http://debian.koha-community.org/koha stable main
13:27 tcohen            Bill-K: first, I suggest you replace 'stable' with 22.05
13:27 cait              have to leave, bye all!
13:28 tcohen            we are about to release 22.11 by the end of the month and you don't want to jump into that irght away
13:28 Bill-K            deb http://debian.koha-community.org/koha 22.05 main
13:28 Bill-K            This?
13:29 tcohen            yes
13:29 Bill-K            Got it
13:29 tcohen            apt update
13:29 tcohen            and tell me if apt upgrade is telling you some packages are being kept from upgrade
13:30 tcohen            you can also add jammy
13:30 tcohen            deb http://debian.koha-community.org/koha 22.05 main jammy
13:30 tcohen            please do
13:31 Bill-K            done. Doing the apt update again for jammy
13:37 Bill-K            apt upgrade done. The only thing that I can see that looks like any kind of potential fail was "Failed to enable unit: Unit /run/systemd/generator.late/koha-common.service is transient or generated."
13:37 tcohen            can you try apt dist-upgrade
13:37 tcohen            and list here the things it is going to upgrade?
13:37 tcohen            I bet libmojolicious-perl is there
13:38 Bill-K            I don't see it actually
13:38 Bill-K            The following packages have been kept back:   grub-efi-amd64-bin grub-efi-amd64-signed 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 2 not upgraded.
13:39 Bill-K            Other than that just a list of some packages that were auto installed and no longer required
13:40 tcohen            hm
13:40 Bill-K            My mojolicious did upgrade it seems like though: Mojolicious: 9.22 JSON::Validator: 5.08 Mojolicious::Plugin::OpenAPI: 5.05
13:40 Bill-K            oh hey my instance is back up!
13:40 tcohen            \o/
13:42 Bill-K            We did the thing! Ty so much. Felt like a bit of a tool volunteering to run this server for them then crashing it and having no idea how to bring it back up haha\
13:42 tcohen            it happens, you managed to solve it though
13:42 tcohen            asked on the right places
13:55 AndroUser         tuxayo: https://paste.koha-community.org/18214
13:57 schnydszch        tuxayo: https://paste.koha-community.org/18214
13:58 tcohen            Joubu: I cannot even see the 'Add guarantee' link LOL
14:07 Joubu             /cgi-bin/koha/members/moremember.pl?borrowernumber=5 - next to edit
14:09 kidclamp          https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=32122
14:09 huginn`           04Bug 32122: normal, P5 - low, ---, nick, Signed Off , Wrong permissions check on item circulation alerts
14:12 tcohen            Joubu: I forgot staff cannot have guarantees
14:25 caroline          git status
14:25 caroline          oop sorry wrong window!
14:25 tcohen            fatal: no es un repositorio git (ni ninguno de los directorios superiores): .git
14:25 caroline          good morning by the way!
14:25 caroline          lol tcohen!
14:29 tcohen            :-D
15:06 oleonard          I kept thinking Bug 32022 hadn't been pushed because the .action fieldsets were still transparent
15:06 huginn`           04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=32022 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to master , Style tweaks to fieldsets and page-section
15:06 oleonard          Now I see Joubu added a follow-up
15:07 oleonard          I wanted the .action fieldset to be white to create visual consistency where we lack structural consistency: Sometimes the .action fieldset is inside the related fieldset and sometimes it isn't
15:11 ashimema          I added the follow-up, Joubu QA'd it
15:12 ashimema          it looked like a mistake to me that the action background was white.. you set it to transparent but then it got overridden elsewhere
15:13 ashimema          personally.. I actually preferred them as distinct.. though I'd rather see us also make our markup more consistent and put those actions in their own fieldsets consistently outside or the final fieldset of a form.
15:21 oleonard          Oh okay
15:22 ashimema          sorry.. I think it moved quick before you had a chance to see that follow-up and comment
15:22 oleonard          Consistency is the goal, so either path is fine with me
15:22 ashimema          I can help take on moving buttons into action fieldsets..
15:22 oleonard          I noticed that davidnind was adding testing notes about the discrepancy
15:23 ashimema          just QAing bug 32109 btw
15:23 huginn`           04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=32109 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , Toolbar containing text links lacks spacing
15:23 ashimema          and adding a follow-up to fix a similar inconsistency I spotted
15:23 ashimema          oh cool.. davidnind++
15:23 ashimema          hmm.. actually..
15:23 ashimema          perhaps the follow-up I was about to write isn't correct..
15:24 ashimema          we don't have a clear case for when a toolbar should contain text links vs buttons or whatever..
15:24 ashimema          so 'selections-toolbar' works for your selections.. but there's also some filters toolbars scattered around that are almost identical styling..
15:24 ashimema          I think we should perhaps synchronise those..
15:25 ashimema          think 'opac problem reports' and 'checkout notes'..
15:25 ashimema          those are the two I'm looking at patching..
15:25 ashimema          they both add 'filters' toolbar to allow showing/hiding open/closed reports
15:25 ashimema          * open/closed reports/notes
15:29 oleonard          This is something we can hash out in an interface guideline, but this is my conception of it: Buttons are actions you can take with the actual "thing" being displayed (e.g. bibliographic record, patron record, etc)
15:29 oleonard          Text links are actions you can take with the results displayed: check boxes, highlight/unhighlight, etc.
15:30 ashimema          sounds like a good conceptual different to me..
15:30 ashimema          so would you say the filters I'm talking about constitute the text links too.. I think they do..
15:31 oleonard          I don't have problem reports data in my system but the checkout notes definitely
15:33 ashimema          I went to write a patch and discovered they also have a <div id="toolbar"> already too
15:33 ashimema          so I can't easily just use the exact same markup as that would leave us with two toolbar id's
15:33 ashimema          toolbar feels a slightly odd ID to me anyway.. shouldn't it be a class.. it's a pretty generic term?
15:35 ashimema          I've commented on the bug.. happy to do a follow-up if you would prefer I jump on it.
15:35 oleonard          Right now we have #toolbar and .btn-toolbar which are the same style
15:35 ashimema          oh really..
15:35 ashimema          lol.. I missed that
15:35 oleonard          #toolbar as an ID is intended to be used for "the" toolbar on the page
15:35 oleonard          ashimema Look, a lot of this is just in my head XD
15:36 ashimema          hehe
15:36 ashimema          hence my requests and offer to help with a style guide 🙂
15:36 ashimema          I thought btn-toolbar was a bootstrap thing..
15:37 oleonard          It is, but we have some CSS to refine it too
15:37 ashimema          ah, I see
15:39 ashimema          ha.. now I look at these two toolbars I feel like they should jsut be one toolbar...
15:40 ashimema          'Mark seen | Mark not seen'
15:40 ashimema          'Select all | Clear all | Hide seen | Show all'
15:40 ashimema          do those make sense one on top of the other or are they all related really..
15:40 ashimema          they're also all text links
15:40 ashimema          grr..
15:40 ashimema          why is everything so hard.
15:40 oleonard          I think those two toolbars represent the two different categories of toolbars as I described them.
15:41 oleonard          Of course the issue is muddied because toolbar buttons look like text links now :|
15:41 ashimema          indeed...
15:42 ashimema          so to my mind it's a case of one toolbar, two styles of buttons..
15:42 ashimema          ack
15:42 ashimema          trie
15:42 ashimema          true.. even
15:50 oleonard          ashimema: In what situation does a problem report get the recipient value 'admin' ?
15:50 * ashimema        has added your comments to our framapad btw..
15:51 oleonard          Thanks
16:09 ashimema          erm...
16:09 ashimema          opac problem reports.. I have no idea I'm afraid
16:11 ashimema          looks like you should be able to pick it from the opac
16:12 ashimema          when submitting a report
16:12 ashimema          but only if the library has an inbound_email_address and it's not equal to the KohaAdminEmailAddress
16:15 reiveune          bye
18:06 oleonard          What does it mean when a commit says "grafted" ?
18:06 oleonard          e.g. git show c4b37e9113
18:07 tcohen            never saw thaT
18:08 tcohen            maybe related to it being signed'
18:08 tcohen            git show --show-signature c4b37e9113
18:12 davidnind[m]      I read this, and I'm none the wiser https://git-scm.com/docs/git-replace
18:13 davidnind[m]      https://blog.developer.atlassian.com/grafting-earlier-history-with-git/I also read this, but still not any the wiser as well
18:13 oleonard          Hi davidnind[m]
18:14 davidnind[m]      hi @oleonard!
18:15 oleonard          Thanks as always for your thorough patch testing
18:16 davidnind[m]      slowly working through the button bugs - not sure I need to be so detailed...
18:17 oleonard          Probably not :) But you never know!
18:21 davidnind[m]      I think I have only found one which was overlooked (search history), but also noting other inconsistencies in the UI 🙃
18:27 oleonard          That has been very helpful
18:45 tuxayo            schnydszch: That root user problem is weird. Still using docker-compose version 1.25.0 ?*
18:45 tuxayo            Dawod Gharaibeh: «anyone knows if Koha supports ebook downloads» What do you mean? Like having them stored in Koha?
18:46 tuxayo            hi #koha :)
18:58 tcohen            oleonard-away: did you sort that git message? I cannot reproduce
19:55 ashimema          davidnind is the king of testing.. he deserves more rewards.
19:56 ashimema          davidnind++
19:56 davidnind[m]      😊