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tuxayo |
https://download.koha-community.org/ looks weird, doesn't it? |
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tcohen |
thd++ |
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tcohen |
thd++ |
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tcohen |
thd++ |
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tuxayo |
tcohen: lol, I was about to do the same, I just got the new wiki propagated |
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tuxayo |
thd+ |
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tuxayo |
tcohen++ |
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tuxayo |
thd++ |
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tuxayo |
looks so neat! |
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tuxayo |
Now we will be able to make collapsible sections in the RMaint doc to better handle conditions (if security release, if using the release tool docker image, if Koha version <= 21.05, if releasing master) |
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tuxayo |
🎉 |
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tuxayo |
Some stuff is messy, creating noise or spread out. |
| 02:58 |
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tuxayo |
> MediaWiki offers collapsible classes out of the box for MediaWiki 1.18 and higher |
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tuxayo |
confetti! |
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wahanui |
o/`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'` |
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tuxayo |
There is even the visual editor!!!!! |
| 03:11 |
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tuxayo |
The wiki is so reactive now! |
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tuxayo |
> The overall contents of Canasta are as follows: |
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tuxayo |
> Elasticsearch 6.8.20 |
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tuxayo |
ok so using EOL ES comes from Canasta. They might be reluctant to go to the non-libre version. |
| 03:44 |
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tuxayo |
Here we go https://github.com/CanastaWiki/Canasta/issues/138 |
| 03:44 |
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tuxayo |
Need to open a ticket at MediaWiki actually to have ES 7 or OS support backported to LTS |
| 03:45 |
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tuxayo |
Oh we don't have anymore the page view counters in the wiki. It was nice to see how insanely popular Koha is. |
| 03:48 |
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tuxayo |
Regardless, I got one of my wish list items done! |
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tuxayo |
https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]_tuxayo/Wish_list |
| 03:51 |
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tuxayo |
Oh there are captchas from time to time on the wiki now. Quite basic but at least they are libre. |
| 03:52 |
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tuxayo |
thd++ again thanks for the wiki upgrade |
| 03:52 |
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tuxayo |
mtj++ also if I recall correctly ^^ |
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thd |
and thanks tcohen |
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thd |
tcohen had forgotten to ask the mail system maintainer to fix the mail server for the system on which the wiki is running. |
| 03:55 |
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thd |
I think that new users cannot register and people cannot change passwords until the mail system is working. |
| 03:56 |
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thd |
Many other things to do to improve indexing which is now ElasticSearch etc. |
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tuxayo |
> new users cannot register and people cannot change passwords until the mail system is working. |
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tuxayo |
oops ^^" |
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tuxayo |
let's try |
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thd |
The sitemap for helping Google find things may not be working in the current configuration. |
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tuxayo |
Error sending mail: |
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tuxayo |
Unknown error in PHP's mail() function. |
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tuxayo |
As expected indeed! |
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thd |
tcohen reports that the mail system has been broken on that system a long time such that people do not receive email from jenkins jobs or whatever from that server. |
| 03:59 |
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thd |
Now fixing the mail system is a priority. |
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tuxayo |
How did people registered on the wiki until now? |
| 03:59 |
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tuxayo |
Ah it was on another server |
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thd |
Yes. |
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thd |
We may go back to that other server but that server needs an OS upgrade. |
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thd |
Equinox supplied the other server and are happy to continue. |
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tuxayo |
Once the upgrade is done, portainer thing make it easy to migrate to another server is that it? |
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tuxayo |
equinox++ |
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thd |
Portainer is intended to make things easy. |
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tuxayo |
thd: I'm interested in hosting a MediaWiki as a personal website, IIUC Canasta is a distribution with a lot of things already set up like the visual editor which take some work otherwise. |
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thd |
The production and testing Docker containers have each restarted on me twice. It could have been tcohen doing something but maybe some little problem. |
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tuxayo |
And I guess it should be easy to upgrade also? And is ElasticSearch optional (too much RAM for a personal site) |
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tuxayo |
*optional? |
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thd |
I have ElasticSearch running in 1GiB of RAM on a 2GiB VPS with MediaWiki Canasta copy of the Koha database. |
| 04:05 |
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thd |
ElasticSearch maybe needs not require too much RAM if configured well. |
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tuxayo |
Regardless, it's likely to at least double the overall RAM usage. |
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thd |
I had copied a config for RAM constraint which worked for in a minimal Linode but failed for tcohen on the Portainer system. |
| 04:07 |
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thd |
tcohen then copied the Koha config for ElasticSearch and that worked. |
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thd |
Indexing the whole wiki takes about 2 minutes. |
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thd |
A few seconds for the ES generate step. Comment out the index update hold in LocalSettings.php. Run the ES bootstrap step. Uncomment CirrisSearch for using ES in LocalSettings.php. |
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tuxayo |
> Indexing the whole wiki takes about 2 minutes. |
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tuxayo |
nice |
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thd |
Yes, ES probably doubles RAM usage. |
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thd |
MediaWiki Canasta provides an ElasticSearch container as part of their docker-compose configuration. |
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thd |
Database based indexing takes much more time but the speed difference may be more in consequence of the Docker container running in RAM. |
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umair |
hello |
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umair |
i need help |
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umair |
installalion of koha |
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marcelr |
hi #koha |
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hello |
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wahanui |
hello, reiveune |
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Bonjour |
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\o/ |
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(Mojo::Exception)<<Overflow error. version 8 total bits: 1316 max bits: 1232>> |
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Joubu |
what the heck is 1232? |
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ashimema |
blimey, that test fix is more involved than I initially thought Joubu.. |
| 08:31 |
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ashimema |
will try to QA it today.. so much going on at the minute I'm really struggling to fit it all in. |
| 08:33 |
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Joubu |
same here! but the tests were testing the whole UI, so had to rewrite most of it |
| 08:35 |
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ashimema |
yeah, i see |
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Joubu |
marcelr: around? |
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Joubu |
@later tell marcelr please see 32011 |
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huginn` |
Joubu: The operation succeeded. |
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alohabot |
Joubu: Error: "later" is not a valid command. |
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Joubu |
? |
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marcelr |
bug 32011 |
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huginn` |
Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=32011 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart+koha, ASSIGNED , 2FA - Problem with qr_code generation |
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marcelr |
hmm |
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marcelr |
will have a look tomorrow |
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Joubu |
I have a patch, but I don't really understand it.. |
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Joubu |
2 hours for a 1 char change patch, the best ones :D |
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marcelr |
yeah |
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marcelr |
bbl |
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fridolin |
Bug 32012 encoding in hell :( |
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huginn` |
Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=32012 major, P5 - low, ---, fridolin.somers, Needs Signoff , runreport.pl should use binmode UTF-8 |
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oleonard |
o/ |
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oleonard |
davidnind[m]++ |
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oleonard |
thd++ |
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Joubu |
oleonard: bug 31960 - "Report" is h2 and "Detailed messages: is h3, expected? |
| 10:48 |
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huginn` |
Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=31960 minor, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Signed Off , Information on job detail view is misaligned |
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Joubu |
https://snipboard.io/VYtawT.jpg |
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Joubu |
as well as the : vs none |
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oleonard |
I think the : is probably not needed, but the h2 and h3 were deliberate, though I wouldn't argue about it. |
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tcohen |
hola #koha o/ |
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oleonard |
Hi tcohen |
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tcohen |
hey oleonard |
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wahanui |
oleonard is happy for ashimema to write the release script |
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zb |
someone who understands koha’s branches better than me: suppose library has three branches, A and B in the same building, C more independently somewhere further. can you make koha treat B’s items returned at A as returned to their home branch (C’s items still marked for transfer) |
| 11:45 |
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zb |
(so if you are logged in at A and return an item belonging to B, koha understands that it doesn’t need to go to transfer and doesn’t need to be returned again at B) |
| 11:46 |
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oleonard |
zb: You can set up rules in Circulation & Fine rules so that items "float," but that's not quite the same. |
| 11:47 |
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oleonard |
zb: B items returned at A won't be transferred, but they'll still say they're at A. |
| 11:47 |
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zb |
oleonard: and they would then float only between A and B, but C would still be independent? |
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oleonard |
hm, no... I guess the options aren't that granular. |
| 11:48 |
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zb |
that’s what i suspected but wanted to confirm |
| 11:50 |
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zb |
i suspect that in the actual case i have, the library might want to change branch B into CCODE B of branch A |
| 11:51 |
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oleonard |
zb: It makes me wonder if A and B could be considered one library in Koha and use shelving locations to differentiate the collection. But then you couldn't easily get separate statistics |
| 11:52 |
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zb |
oleonard: would shelving locations be better than ccodes? |
| 11:53 |
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oleonard |
Not necessarily, because ccodes don't have to be used in any particular way. We (a public library) generally use them to define genres |
| 11:54 |
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zb |
ah :) |
| 11:54 |
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zb |
i think in the past you couldn’t make circulation rules based on ccode but maybe now you can? |
| 11:54 |
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oleonard |
No. |
| 11:54 |
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oleonard |
Still item type + library + patron category. |
| 11:55 |
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zb |
ah, that is then something for me to keep in mind |
| 11:57 |
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zb |
hmm. we do have collection code available in circ rules of our test installation, but maybe this was a non-standard feature |
| 12:00 |
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oleonard |
it must be a customization |
| 12:01 |
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zb |
yup. i think we tried to get rid of ccode-based rules a year ago or so, but maybe we still have them somewhere in some library... |
| 12:01 |
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zb |
thanks for helping me on figuring out the options! |
| 12:02 |
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oleonard |
You're welcome! |
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anne |
Hi there. Another library allowed me to import their article records (from Koha). How do I import them into my library (dewey classification) I have fields 850$a=FLTE; 995$b=FLTE; 995$c=FLTE I would like to change these fields to IBB I did that in the file, but the import doesn't work. I guess it's because there are 3 characters instead of 4. Is there a control number? So how to solve this problem ? |
| 13:21 |
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caroline |
Hi anne, Is this UNIMARC? I don't recognize the fields |
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anne |
It's Unimarc |
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caroline |
And FLTE is their branchcode and IBB is yours? |
| 13:29 |
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caroline |
Do you need the item fields? If you're just importing the bibliographic records, you can skip checking the item fields |
| 13:36 |
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anne |
Yes FLTE is their branchcode and IBB is mine. How can I skip this item fields ? |
| 13:39 |
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caroline |
In Outils>Préparation des notices MARC, you should have a section for items, just choose No |
| 13:42 |
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ashimema |
do we have a best practice way to get at teh currently logged in users borrowernumber in the staff client from javascript? |
| 13:43 |
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ashimema |
i was considering a global scoped variable.. but that feels a bit funky somehow. |
| 13:51 |
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anne |
Thanks Caroline, I don't have "Préparation des notices Marc" but I have "Gestion des modèles de transformation MARC". I used it to create a new template to delete items 859a, 995b and 995c. I used this template when importing and it worked. Merci ;) |
| 13:52 |
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caroline |
Préparation des notices MARC is the fr-CA translation... not sure what it is in fr-FR, it is the importing tool (stage MARC records) |
| 13:52 |
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caroline |
glad you found a way around it! |
| 14:09 |
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oleonard |
Happy birthday caroline! |
| 14:09 |
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caroline |
thank you oleonard! |
| 14:19 |
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cait |
oh no |
| 14:19 |
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cait |
Happy birthday, caroline! |
| 14:21 |
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caroline |
thank you cait! |
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ashimema |
happy birthday ! 🙂 |
| 14:30 |
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caroline |
thank you ashimema! |
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lukeg |
hi |
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cait |
hi there |
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caroline |
Has anyone around worked on the "pages" tool? bug 15326 |
| 16:07 |
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huginn` |
Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=15326 new feature, P5 - low, ---, aleisha, Needs documenting , Add CMS feature |
| 16:07 |
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tcohen |
marcelr? |
| 16:07 |
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wahanui |
well, marcelr is just amazed that next is faster than count |
| 16:07 |
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oleonard |
caroline: Just in testing |
| 16:07 |
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tcohen |
happy birthday, caroline |
| 16:07 |
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caroline |
I'm wondering what the expiration of a page does... The URL of an expired page is still valid, so what is the point? |
| 16:07 |
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caroline |
thank you tcohen! |
| 16:09 |
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oleonard |
caroline: Should it return a 404 error instead? That seems logical to me. Or a more specific "this page has expired" message. |
| 16:11 |
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caroline |
I'm wondering if it has a specific purpose or if it's a relic from copying the news tool that wasn't removed or adapted |
| 16:12 |
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caroline |
So far, I only see that it removes it from the list of "active" pages in the staff interface (additional-contents.pl), but the links are still valid and accessible |
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oleonard |
caroline: I suspect it's an oversight. Something we should have caught in testing for sure. |
| 16:16 |
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caroline |
Ok I'll write a bug report |
| 16:17 |
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ashimema |
The pages stuff needs a fair bit more work in my opinion |
| 16:17 |
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ashimema |
Lots of little things like this |
| 16:18 |
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caroline |
It's still a very cool feature! |
| 16:20 |
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ashimema |
Indeed it is |
| 16:21 |
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caroline |
I think lukeg excited everyone at Kohacon when he showed it! |
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cait |
oleonard++ |
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cait |
thd++ tcohen++ |
| 18:52 |
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caroline |
Does anyone remember who we're supposed to ping to update the 'latest' link in the manual? |
| 18:53 |
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caroline |
rn latest goes to 20.11, which is... way back |
| 18:53 |
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caroline |
https://koha-community.org/manual/latest/en/html/ |
| 18:55 |
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cait |
I am not sure... liz maybe? or rangi? |
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caroline |
@later tell wizzyrea Hi Liz! Are you the one I'm supposed to contact to change the 'latest' link for the manual? Right now https://koha-community.org/manual/latest/en/html/ goes to 20.11, but the latest branch on gitlab is 22.05 https://gitlab.com/koha-commun[…]ree/manual22.05.x Let me know if you need more info. Thanks! |
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huginn` |
caroline: The operation succeeded. |
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caroline |
@later tell rangi Hey rangi Are you the one I'm supposed to contact to change the 'latest' link for the manual? Right now https://koha-community.org/manual/latest/en/html/ goes to 20.11, but the latest branch on gitlab is 22.05 https://gitlab.com/koha-commun[…]ree/manual22.05.x Let me know if you need more info. Thanks! |
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huginn` |
caroline: The operation succeeded. |
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caroline |
covering all the bases... |
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cait |
hehe |
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