Time Nick Message 19:06 cait hehe 19:04 caroline covering all the bases... 19:04 huginn` caroline: The operation succeeded. 19:04 caroline @later tell rangi Hey rangi Are you the one I'm supposed to contact to change the 'latest' link for the manual? Right now https://koha-community.org/manual/latest/en/html/ goes to 20.11, but the latest branch on gitlab is 22.05 https://gitlab.com/koha-community/koha-manual/-/tree/manual22.05.x Let me know if you need more info. Thanks! 18:59 huginn` caroline: The operation succeeded. 18:59 caroline @later tell wizzyrea Hi Liz! Are you the one I'm supposed to contact to change the 'latest' link for the manual? Right now https://koha-community.org/manual/latest/en/html/ goes to 20.11, but the latest branch on gitlab is 22.05 https://gitlab.com/koha-community/koha-manual/-/tree/manual22.05.x Let me know if you need more info. Thanks! 18:55 cait I am not sure... liz maybe? or rangi? 18:53 caroline https://koha-community.org/manual/latest/en/html/ 18:53 caroline rn latest goes to 20.11, which is... way back 18:52 caroline Does anyone remember who we're supposed to ping to update the 'latest' link in the manual? 18:46 cait thd++ tcohen++ 18:42 cait oleonard++ 16:21 caroline I think lukeg excited everyone at Kohacon when he showed it! 16:20 ashimema Indeed it is 16:18 caroline It's still a very cool feature! 16:17 ashimema Lots of little things like this 16:17 ashimema The pages stuff needs a fair bit more work in my opinion 16:16 caroline Ok I'll write a bug report 16:16 oleonard caroline: I suspect it's an oversight. Something we should have caught in testing for sure. 16:12 caroline So far, I only see that it removes it from the list of "active" pages in the staff interface (additional-contents.pl), but the links are still valid and accessible 16:11 caroline I'm wondering if it has a specific purpose or if it's a relic from copying the news tool that wasn't removed or adapted 16:09 oleonard caroline: Should it return a 404 error instead? That seems logical to me. Or a more specific "this page has expired" message. 16:07 caroline thank you tcohen! 16:07 caroline I'm wondering what the expiration of a page does... The URL of an expired page is still valid, so what is the point? 16:07 tcohen happy birthday, caroline 16:07 oleonard caroline: Just in testing 16:07 wahanui well, marcelr is just amazed that next is faster than count 16:07 tcohen marcelr? 16:07 huginn` 04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=15326 new feature, P5 - low, ---, aleisha, Needs documenting , Add CMS feature 16:07 caroline Has anyone around worked on the "pages" tool? bug 15326 14:49 cait hi there 14:48 lukeg hi 14:30 caroline thank you ashimema! 14:28 ashimema happy birthday ! 🙂 14:21 caroline thank you cait! 14:19 cait Happy birthday, caroline! 14:19 cait oh no 14:09 caroline thank you oleonard! 14:09 oleonard Happy birthday caroline! 13:52 caroline glad you found a way around it! 13:52 caroline Préparation des notices MARC is the fr-CA translation... not sure what it is in fr-FR, it is the importing tool (stage MARC records) 13:51 anne Thanks Caroline, I don't have "Préparation des notices Marc" but I have "Gestion des modèles de transformation MARC". I used it to create a new template to delete items 859a, 995b and 995c. I used this template when importing and it worked. Merci ;) 13:43 ashimema i was considering a global scoped variable.. but that feels a bit funky somehow. 13:42 ashimema do we have a best practice way to get at teh currently logged in users borrowernumber in the staff client from javascript? 13:39 caroline In Outils>Préparation des notices MARC, you should have a section for items, just choose No 13:36 anne Yes FLTE is their branchcode and IBB is mine. How can I skip this item fields ? 13:29 caroline Do you need the item fields? If you're just importing the bibliographic records, you can skip checking the item fields 13:26 caroline And FLTE is their branchcode and IBB is yours? 13:24 anne It's Unimarc 13:21 caroline Hi anne, Is this UNIMARC? I don't recognize the fields 13:20 anne Hi there. Another library allowed me to import their article records (from Koha). How do I import them into my library (dewey classification) I have fields 850$a=FLTE; 995$b=FLTE; 995$c=FLTE I would like to change these fields to IBB I did that in the file, but the import doesn't work. I guess it's because there are 3 characters instead of 4. Is there a control number? So how to solve this problem ? 12:02 oleonard You're welcome! 12:01 zb thanks for helping me on figuring out the options! 12:01 zb yup. i think we tried to get rid of ccode-based rules a year ago or so, but maybe we still have them somewhere in some library... 12:00 oleonard it must be a customization 11:57 zb hmm. we do have collection code available in circ rules of our test installation, but maybe this was a non-standard feature 11:55 zb ah, that is then something for me to keep in mind 11:54 oleonard Still item type + library + patron category. 11:54 oleonard No. 11:54 zb i think in the past you couldn’t make circulation rules based on ccode but maybe now you can? 11:54 zb ah :) 11:53 oleonard Not necessarily, because ccodes don't have to be used in any particular way. We (a public library) generally use them to define genres 11:52 zb oleonard: would shelving locations be better than ccodes? 11:51 oleonard zb: It makes me wonder if A and B could be considered one library in Koha and use shelving locations to differentiate the collection. But then you couldn't easily get separate statistics 11:50 zb i suspect that in the actual case i have, the library might want to change branch B into CCODE B of branch A 11:48 zb that’s what i suspected but wanted to confirm 11:47 oleonard hm, no... I guess the options aren't that granular. 11:47 zb oleonard: and they would then float only between A and B, but C would still be independent? 11:47 oleonard zb: B items returned at A won't be transferred, but they'll still say they're at A. 11:46 oleonard zb: You can set up rules in Circulation & Fine rules so that items "float," but that's not quite the same. 11:45 zb (so if you are logged in at A and return an item belonging to B, koha understands that it doesn’t need to go to transfer and doesn’t need to be returned again at B) 11:42 zb someone who understands koha’s branches better than me: suppose library has three branches, A and B in the same building, C more independently somewhere further. can you make koha treat B’s items returned at A as returned to their home branch (C’s items still marked for transfer) 11:16 wahanui oleonard is happy for ashimema to write the release script 11:16 tcohen hey oleonard 11:16 oleonard Hi tcohen 11:15 tcohen hola #koha o/ 11:08 oleonard I think the : is probably not needed, but the h2 and h3 were deliberate, though I wouldn't argue about it. 10:48 Joubu as well as the : vs none 10:48 Joubu https://snipboard.io/VYtawT.jpg 10:48 huginn` 04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=31960 minor, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Signed Off , Information on job detail view is misaligned 10:48 Joubu oleonard: bug 31960 - "Report" is h2 and "Detailed messages: is h3, expected? 10:40 oleonard thd++ 10:40 oleonard davidnind[m]++ 10:27 oleonard o/ 10:00 huginn` 04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=32012 major, P5 - low, ---, fridolin.somers, Needs Signoff , runreport.pl should use binmode UTF-8 10:00 fridolin Bug 32012 encoding in hell :( 09:34 marcelr bbl 09:06 marcelr yeah 09:05 Joubu 2 hours for a 1 char change patch, the best ones :D 09:03 Joubu I have a patch, but I don't really understand it.. 09:01 marcelr will have a look tomorrow 08:59 marcelr hmm 08:59 huginn` 04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=32011 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart+koha, ASSIGNED , 2FA - Problem with qr_code generation 08:59 marcelr bug 32011 08:51 Joubu ? 08:51 alohabot Joubu: Error: "later" is not a valid command. 08:51 huginn` Joubu: The operation succeeded. 08:51 Joubu @later tell marcelr please see 32011 08:49 Joubu marcelr: around? 08:35 ashimema yeah, i see 08:33 Joubu same here! but the tests were testing the whole UI, so had to rewrite most of it 08:31 ashimema will try to QA it today.. so much going on at the minute I'm really struggling to fit it all in. 08:30 ashimema blimey, that test fix is more involved than I initially thought Joubu.. 08:06 Joubu what the heck is 1232? 08:06 Joubu (Mojo::Exception)<<Overflow error. version 8 total bits: 1316 max bits: 1232>> 06:51 magnuse \o/ 06:42 alex_ Bonjour 06:12 wahanui hello, reiveune 06:12 reiveune hello 05:36 marcelr hi #koha 05:25 umair installalion of koha 05:25 umair i need help 05:25 umair hello 04:17 thd Database based indexing takes much more time but the speed difference may be more in consequence of the Docker container running in RAM. 04:13 thd MediaWiki Canasta provides an ElasticSearch container as part of their docker-compose configuration. 04:12 thd Yes, ES probably doubles RAM usage. 04:12 tuxayo nice 04:12 tuxayo > Indexing the whole wiki takes about 2 minutes. 04:11 thd A few seconds for the ES generate step. Comment out the index update hold in LocalSettings.php. Run the ES bootstrap step. Uncomment CirrisSearch for using ES in LocalSettings.php. 04:08 thd Indexing the whole wiki takes about 2 minutes. 04:07 thd tcohen then copied the Koha config for ElasticSearch and that worked. 04:07 thd I had copied a config for RAM constraint which worked for in a minimal Linode but failed for tcohen on the Portainer system. 04:06 tuxayo Regardless, it's likely to at least double the overall RAM usage. 04:05 thd ElasticSearch maybe needs not require too much RAM if configured well. 04:04 thd I have ElasticSearch running in 1GiB of RAM on a 2GiB VPS with MediaWiki Canasta copy of the Koha database. 04:03 tuxayo *optional? 04:03 tuxayo And I guess it should be easy to upgrade also? And is ElasticSearch optional (too much RAM for a personal site) 04:03 thd The production and testing Docker containers have each restarted on me twice. It could have been tcohen doing something but maybe some little problem. 04:02 tuxayo thd: I'm interested in hosting a MediaWiki as a personal website, IIUC Canasta is a distribution with a lot of things already set up like the visual editor which take some work otherwise. 04:01 thd Portainer is intended to make things easy. 04:00 tuxayo equinox++ 04:00 tuxayo Once the upgrade is done, portainer thing make it easy to migrate to another server is that it? 04:00 thd Equinox supplied the other server and are happy to continue. 04:00 thd We may go back to that other server but that server needs an OS upgrade. 03:59 thd Yes. 03:59 tuxayo Ah it was on another server 03:59 tuxayo How did people registered on the wiki until now? 03:59 thd Now fixing the mail system is a priority. 03:58 thd tcohen reports that the mail system has been broken on that system a long time such that people do not receive email from jenkins jobs or whatever from that server. 03:58 tuxayo As expected indeed! 03:58 tuxayo Unknown error in PHP's mail() function. 03:58 tuxayo Error sending mail: 03:57 thd The sitemap for helping Google find things may not be working in the current configuration. 03:57 tuxayo let's try 03:57 tuxayo oops ^^" 03:57 tuxayo > new users cannot register and people cannot change passwords until the mail system is working. 03:56 thd Many other things to do to improve indexing which is now ElasticSearch etc. 03:55 thd I think that new users cannot register and people cannot change passwords until the mail system is working. 03:54 thd tcohen had forgotten to ask the mail system maintainer to fix the mail server for the system on which the wiki is running. 03:53 thd and thanks tcohen 03:52 tuxayo mtj++ also if I recall correctly ^^ 03:52 tuxayo thd++ again thanks for the wiki upgrade 03:51 tuxayo Oh there are captchas from time to time on the wiki now. Quite basic but at least they are libre. 03:48 tuxayo https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/User:Victor_Grousset_-_tuxayo/Wish_list 03:48 tuxayo Regardless, I got one of my wish list items done! 03:45 tuxayo Oh we don't have anymore the page view counters in the wiki. It was nice to see how insanely popular Koha is. 03:44 tuxayo Need to open a ticket at MediaWiki actually to have ES 7 or OS support backported to LTS 03:44 tuxayo Here we go https://github.com/CanastaWiki/Canasta/issues/138 03:14 tuxayo ok so using EOL ES comes from Canasta. They might be reluctant to go to the non-libre version. 03:14 tuxayo > Elasticsearch 6.8.20 03:14 tuxayo > The overall contents of Canasta are as follows: 03:11 tuxayo The wiki is so reactive now! 03:06 tuxayo There is even the visual editor!!!!! 02:58 wahanui o/`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'` 02:58 tuxayo confetti! 02:58 tuxayo > MediaWiki offers collapsible classes out of the box for MediaWiki 1.18 and higher 02:57 tuxayo Some stuff is messy, creating noise or spread out. 02:57 tuxayo 🎉 02:56 tuxayo Now we will be able to make collapsible sections in the RMaint doc to better handle conditions (if security release, if using the release tool docker image, if Koha version <= 21.05, if releasing master) 02:53 tuxayo looks so neat! 02:53 tuxayo thd++ 02:53 tuxayo tcohen++ 02:52 tuxayo thd+ 02:52 tuxayo tcohen: lol, I was about to do the same, I just got the new wiki propagated 02:52 tcohen thd++ 02:52 tcohen thd++ 02:52 tcohen thd++ 02:44 tuxayo https://download.koha-community.org/ looks weird, doesn't it?