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mtj |
bug 24387! |
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Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=24387 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart+koha, RESOLVED FIXED, Rename News tool |
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Samslibrary |
hello |
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tuxayo |
Samslibrary: hi :) |
| 03:47 |
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tubaclarinet[m] |
Samslibrary: Hello. |
| 03:47 |
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tuxayo |
davidnind around? The tomorrow's meeting is missing from the calendar. |
| 03:47 |
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tuxayo |
IIRC you have write access to it |
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reiveune |
hello |
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alex_ |
Bonjour |
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ashimema |
Joubu around? |
| 07:33 |
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Joubu |
yes |
| 07:33 |
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ashimema |
I just stuck a patch for the t/lib/Mocks/Zebra.pm stuff onto bug 31162.. however, my patch only fixes the navigational bit.. there's more to do |
| 07:33 |
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huginn` |
Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=31162 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, martin.renvoize, Pushed to master , Add a clear cataloguing module home page |
| 07:34 |
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ashimema |
I don't understand how the form_submit_ok works.. how does it 'count' forms so you select the right one.. something else going on there |
| 07:34 |
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Joubu |
form_submit_ok? |
| 07:35 |
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Joubu |
submit_form_ok |
| 07:36 |
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Joubu |
it's form_number |
| 07:36 |
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Joubu |
which I guess is the nth <form> nodes in the DOM |
| 07:36 |
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ashimema |
indeed |
| 07:37 |
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ashimema |
hmm.. I didn't touch the pages themselves |
| 07:37 |
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ashimema |
oh.. I'm misinterprettying |
| 07:37 |
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ashimema |
the submit happens OK |
| 07:37 |
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ashimema |
it's the next step.. |
| 07:37 |
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Joubu |
that's certainly coming from bug 27421 |
| 07:37 |
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ashimema |
ah.. |
| 07:37 |
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huginn` |
Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=27421 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart+koha, Pushed to master , Porting tools/stage-marc-import.pl to BackgroundJob |
| 07:37 |
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ashimema |
I bet that Kyles one |
| 07:37 |
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ashimema |
yes |
| 07:37 |
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Joubu |
if this is failing for more than 1 month |
| 07:38 |
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ashimema |
erm.. Kyle also added some feedback around this page somewhere I think.. it might be that one |
| 07:38 |
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ashimema |
I need to take the kids out I'm afraid.. |
| 07:38 |
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Joubu |
yep! Enjoy your day off! |
| 07:38 |
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ashimema |
I've uploaded my two follow-ups to the cat home bug as a starting point |
| 07:39 |
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ashimema |
will come back to this this evening unless someone beats me to it.. I was hoping to get it quickly fixed |
| 07:39 |
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ashimema |
have a good day Koha. |
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Pascal |
Hello together :) |
| 08:30 |
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Pascal |
I have a question about the new release of version 22.05.06. In the announcement email it says that there is a security fix. But on the website it doesn't say that anymore. Is this update then still security relevant or was it simply an error in the mail? |
| 08:39 |
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fridolin |
Mmm indeed i dont see security level in https://koha-community.org/koh[…]2-05-06-released/ |
| 09:01 |
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mtj |
hi Pascal, fridolin: the announcement was probably created before the security patch was later added |
| 09:02 |
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fridolin |
so missing from release notes ? |
| 09:02 |
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mtj |
the 22.05.06 package is availible now |
| 09:05 |
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mtj |
fridolin: looks like it |
| 09:05 |
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wahanui |
well, looks like it is just us! |
| 09:07 |
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mtj |
perhaps the release-notes.pl script cant access sec bugs, so they need to be added manually |
| 09:08 |
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fridolin |
it can but one need to define bugzilla credentials |
| 09:10 |
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fridolin |
I dont see neather in https://koha-community.org/koh[…]1-11-13-released/ |
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Pascal |
So will the security bug added to the release notes? . |
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tundunf |
hi all! |
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oleonard |
o/ |
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* cait1 |
waves |
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cait1 |
oleonard++ |
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oleonard |
Man I hate it when I start git bz attach and then space out for like 5 minutes |
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cait1 |
I do that too :) |
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tcohen |
hola #koha o/ |
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cait1 |
hola tcohen |
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lukeg |
hi |
| 14:30 |
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Joubu |
tcohen, ashimema: bug 31992, patch coming soon |
| 14:30 |
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huginn` |
Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=31992 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart+koha, ASSIGNED , t::lib::Mocks::Zebra still using old stage for import page |
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tcohen |
Joubu++ |
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ashimema |
Joubu++ |
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cait1 |
tcohen++ |
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oleonard |
davidnind[m]++ |
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oleonard |
(and go to bed!) |
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oleonard |
caroline around? |
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caroline |
yes |
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oleonard |
Have you checked Bug 31976 in master? |
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huginn` |
Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=31976 trivial, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Incorrect breadcrumbs in authorised_values.tt main page |
| 15:21 |
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oleonard |
I don't think I'm seeing it |
| 15:22 |
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caroline |
yes I checked yesterday... |
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caroline |
let me check again |
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caroline |
https://snipboard.io/6BQndA.jpg |
| 15:24 |
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caroline |
I also sneaked in kidclamp's sandbox (sorry!!) and I see the same thing |
| 15:26 |
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oleonard |
Don't peep on kidclamp's secret sandbox doings ;) |
| 15:27 |
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oleonard |
I'm even more confused because now I *do* see it but I didn't before! |
| 15:28 |
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caroline |
ah... that happens to me all the time, but in reverse (I haave a problem, ask someone about it, they come check my screen, no more problem!) |
| 15:31 |
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oleonard |
haha... My regular test db doesn't show it but the sample data does XD |
| 15:32 |
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caroline |
ooh, interesting... so it's due to the data |
| 15:33 |
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caroline |
Do you have the AR_CANCELLATION category in your db? |
| 15:34 |
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caroline |
It's a newish category I think, I don't have it in my 21.05 and I don't have that problem there |
| 15:38 |
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Joubu |
tcohen, ashimema: I failed :D but almost there I think! |
| 15:43 |
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oleonard |
The authorized values page, in the absence of a search term, tries to pick the first authorized value category as a default |
| 15:44 |
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oleonard |
This is a holdover from when the interface was different... we didn't use to show the category list by default |
| 15:44 |
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oleonard |
The difference in my test data was that I had a category in the authorised_value_categories table which had no authorized values defined |
| 15:45 |
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oleonard |
But we don't offer an authorized values search field (anymore?) so the searchfield handling is obsolete |
| 15:46 |
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oleonard |
Oh, no, the links act as searches |
| 15:52 |
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tuxayo |
hi #koha :) |
| 15:59 |
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tuxayo |
lukeg kidclamp : I realized the Americas-Europe meeting timeslot is too early for US west coast. But the Oceania-Americas slot is good since it's 15:00 for west coast. Do you know people from the west of North America that historically couldn't attend meetings but would be interested? |
| 16:00 |
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tuxayo |
So I can inform them directly about the meeting. |
| 16:04 |
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tuxayo |
https://wiki.koha-community.org/ |
| 16:04 |
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tuxayo |
«Database Migration, Upgrade, and Containerisation in Progress » |
| 16:04 |
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tuxayo |
«Please hold your editing for much later today or tomorrow. » |
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tuxayo |
It is happening!!!!! |
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tuxayo |
oleonard, ashimema To prepare the meeting in 6 hours, I'm getting news about actions on people that likely won't be able to attend. You had: |
| 16:16 |
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tuxayo |
oleonard ashimema draft in the developer handbook how to form our modals. With template of a simple case and a case with form inside. |
| 16:16 |
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tuxayo |
What should be relayed to the meeting about the status? |
| 16:17 |
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oleonard |
ashimema has started a draft (https://annuel.framapad.org/p/[…]styleguide-draft) but I haven't had a chance to look at it. |
| 16:18 |
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oleonard |
I will probably be focusing on template fixes until the release. |
| 16:20 |
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tuxayo |
Thanks, Iet's relay that :) |
| 16:22 |
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oleonard |
tuxayo: I can confirm that I will not be able to attend |
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cait1 |
tuxayo: still encrypted? (pm)? |
| 16:29 |
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tuxayo |
oleonard: Do you know people from the west of North America that historically couldn't attend meetings but would be interested? Now that the other timeslot it there. |
| 16:30 |
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tuxayo |
I forgot to ask you when I asked the others |
| 16:32 |
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oleonard |
The only person I can think of in that region is bag |
| 16:32 |
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tuxayo |
Ah yes, Portland! |
| 16:35 |
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oleonard |
caroline++ |
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thd |
Even tcohen's shadow is absent. |
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thd |
Oh no missed it :) |
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fridolin |
yellow |
| 18:23 |
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oleonard |
What about this for tabs? https://snipboard.io/EtoDrW.jpg |
| 18:31 |
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lukeg |
oleonard: I'm all for that look! +1 from me |
| 18:35 |
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oleonard |
Since not many people are around I added it to Bug 31759 |
| 18:35 |
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huginn` |
Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=31759 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Tabs vs Pills |
| 18:54 |
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caroline |
:q |
| 18:55 |
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caroline |
oops! |
| 18:55 |
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caroline |
wrong window heh |
| 19:03 |
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cait |
oleonard-away: like it much better :) |
| 19:03 |
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cait |
especially the contrast on the tabs is nicer |
| 19:14 |
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cait |
I was wondering how it would look like if we only kept the lie on top the other day, so it would only indicate the tabs at the top, but look more page-section like |
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cait |
oleonard-away: ping? |
| 19:42 |
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davidnind[m] |
oleonard++ |
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davidnind[m] |
likes the update to the tabs |
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* cait |
waves at davidnind[m] :) |
| 19:43 |
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davidnind[m] |
hi cait! |
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cait |
:) |
| 19:45 |
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cait |
in our winter we are a little closer in time I think? our clokcs are changing this sunday |
| 19:47 |
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davidnind[m] |
at the moment it is about 8:45am |
| 19:49 |
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cait |
9:49 pm |
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cait |
i think we enter 10 hours difference Sunday |
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davidnind[m] |
we are in daylight savings time now, so I think that would make it 12 hours difference - a little bit closer... |
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cait |
bug 32000 |
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huginn` |
Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=32000 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Add yellow buttons to administration > upload page |
| 20:03 |
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cait |
not so spectacular |
| 20:04 |
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cait |
hm maybe it was 10 now... 12 then... still confusing after so many years |
| 20:05 |
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caroline |
glad to know I'm not alone in being confused by time changes |
| 20:07 |
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davidnind[m] |
I resort to using a world clock: https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/ (probably other tools out there) |
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* caroline |
is slowly training her cats to eat later than usual |
| 20:09 |
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lukeg |
2:08PM here in Colorado :) |
| 20:10 |
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lukeg |
I think you're 18 hours ahead of me davidnind[m] |
| 20:11 |
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cait |
davidnind[m] - man of the future :) |
| 20:11 |
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davidnind[m] |
19 hours (it is 9:11am here on the 27 October) |
| 20:12 |
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caroline |
It's my bday in NZ! |
| 20:12 |
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tuxayo |
caroline: 🎉 |
| 20:13 |
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* cait |
wonders if she has to wait for it to be caroline's birthday in her timezone |
| 20:13 |
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davidnind[m] |
🎉🎂 (for "tomorrow") |
| 20:13 |
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davidnind[m] |
my head hurst now 🙂 |
| 20:13 |
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caroline |
ty ty! :D |
| 20:14 |
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tuxayo |
> training her cats to eat later than usual |
| 20:14 |
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tuxayo |
Cats have eating hours? :o |
| 20:14 |
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cait |
ah... happy birthday! |
| 20:15 |
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caroline |
tuxayo, yes, we normally feed them at 7am and 9pm (rn it's 7:25 am and 9:25 pm). It was supposed to prevent them from bugging us all day, but they bug us all day anyway |
| 20:15 |
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tuxayo |
LOL |
| 20:17 |
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tuxayo |
Actually I recall all cats around my university coming by dozens in a specific location when someone was always putting out food for then. The boars learned that also, the cat had to be eat fast before being chased! |
| 20:17 |
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tuxayo |
*cats had |
| 20:18 |
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caroline |
aw no poor cats being chased by boars lol |
| 20:37 |
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tuxayo |
Yeah, they stole their food! |
| 20:39 |
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tuxayo |
Part of the historical causes are that boars were too much hunted and humains hybrided them with pigs to replenish the population. But pigs make 3 times more babies so now there are too many compared to the food available in the forest. So they go for the cat food at the uni! |
| 20:53 |
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cait |
Humans... |
| 20:56 |
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caroline |
ikr... |
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davidnind[m] |
#startmeeting Development IRC meeting 26 October 2022 |
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huginn` |
Meeting started Wed Oct 26 22:01:07 2022 UTC. The chair is davidnind[m]. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. |
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huginn` |
Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. |
| 22:01 |
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huginn` |
The meeting name has been set to 'development_irc_meeting_26_october_2022' |
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davidnind[m] |
#info Agenda https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]g_26_October_2022 |
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davidnind[m] |
#topic Introductions |
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davidnind[m] |
#info David Nind, New Zealand |
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dcook_ |
Oh been a while since I've done one of these.. |
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dcook |
Do I just do the info thing as well? |
| 22:02 |
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davidnind[m] |
Yes please! |
| 22:03 |
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dcook |
#info David Cook, Australia |
| 22:03 |
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davidnind[m] |
Not sure who is around - it is quite late in Europe! |
| 22:03 |
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thd |
#info Thomas Dukleth, Agogme, New York City [wiki change live but DNS change pending] |
| 22:07 |
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davidnind[m] |
Shall we defer, or just go through the items quickly - have info on some of the actions so these can be closed off |
| 22:07 |
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davidnind[m] |
thd: awesome! |
| 22:07 |
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thd |
tcohen had to leave for sport practice with his son. |
| 22:08 |
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davidnind[m] |
I think we'll just go through quickly - a short meeting can be a good meeting! |
| 22:08 |
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davidnind[m] |
#topic Announcements |
| 22:09 |
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davidnind[m] |
#info Roles for 23.05 are now open https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]i/Roles_for_23.05 |
| 22:09 |
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lukeg |
#info Lucas Gass, ByWater Solutions |
| 22:10 |
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davidnind[m] |
Someone needs to send a note to the general and developer mailing lists - I didn't see one go out... |
| 22:10 |
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thd |
If anyone needs to add something to the wiki during the meeting until DNS changeover https://wiki2.test.koha-community.org |
| 22:10 |
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thd |
I will write a message to lists after DNS changeover. |
| 22:11 |
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davidnind[m] |
#action davidnind to send an email to the mailing lists on roles for 23.05 |
| 22:11 |
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thd |
The old wiki is locked so that we do not loose edits. |
| 22:11 |
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davidnind[m] |
thd++ |
| 22:11 |
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davidnind[m] |
I was going to wait until it is available again to update anything from this meeting |
| 22:12 |
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thd |
The wiki is currently available at https://wiki2.test.koha-community.org |
| 22:12 |
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davidnind[m] |
#info Wiki upgrade in progress, thd will send a note when DNS changeover is completed and the updated Wiki is available |
| 22:12 |
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thd |
It will stop working briefly when we change the DNS. |
| 22:13 |
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thd |
After DNS change, the new wiki will be available from the usual subdomain wiki.koha-community.org |
| 22:13 |
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davidnind[m] |
#info Updated Wiki available at https://wiki2.test.koha-community.org - there may be a brief outage while DNS is changed |
| 22:15 |
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davidnind[m] |
I'll skip Update from the Release manager (22.11), Updates from the Release Maintainers, Updates from the QA team, and Status of roadmap projects - unless anyone has anything to add |
| 22:15 |
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thd |
The brief outage will undo access from wiki2 subdomain. |
| 22:16 |
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davidnind[m] |
Really good accomplishment getting it over the line thd! Something to celebrate! |
| 22:16 |
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davidnind[m] |
confetti |
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wahanui |
o/`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'` |
| 22:16 |
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davidnind[m] |
#topic Actions from last meeting |
| 22:17 |
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davidnind[m] |
I have some updates for these so will post now |
| 22:17 |
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thd |
We might have had DNS moved over but I was looking at an error in the logs which seemed to relate to deleted spam accounts. |
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aleisha |
hello did i miss the meeting? |
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davidnind[m] |
I will see how the moderation of new account requests goes when things are working - it is very rare for new spam accounts to get through (I hope!) |
| 22:19 |
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davidnind[m] |
Hi aleisha |
| 22:19 |
|
davidnind[m] |
We are still going - great to have you here |
| 22:19 |
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davidnind[m] |
Just working through the action points from the last meeting |
| 22:19 |
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aleisha |
phew! sorry am late :) |
| 22:20 |
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davidnind[m] |
No problem - there are only a few of us, decided to go through quickly |
| 22:20 |
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thd |
New account requests and password changes are broken until the mail server for the system where the wiki is running is fixed. tcohen should have submitted a request to the relevant maintainer. |
| 22:22 |
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davidnind[m] |
#info tcohen will send an email with release dates this week, won't differ from usual release dates: Email sent (https://lists.koha-community.o[…]ober/047350.html) |
| 22:22 |
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davidnind[m] |
Sorry, just to me a while to find the link |
| 22:22 |
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davidnind[m] |
thd: will hold off approving new requests until that is sorted |
| 22:23 |
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davidnind[m] |
#info tcohen and thd will arrange a date in the next few days: Wiki migration in progress!!! |
| 22:23 |
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davidnind[m] |
thd: do you have anything to add? thanks for all your work on this, it will be great to have an updated and supported Wiki |
| 22:24 |
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davidnind[m] |
thd++ |
| 22:24 |
|
* dcook |
got called away but back now |
| 22:24 |
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davidnind[m] |
#info tcohen to schedule/call a "CSRF day" to work on related patches together: the CSRF day didn't have much attention on it, might defer post-release unless people speak up |
| 22:25 |
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dcook |
I'm a bit confused there |
| 22:25 |
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davidnind[m] |
Not sure what "CSRF day" is... |
| 22:25 |
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thd |
Experements should be done on the test wiki which is being reconfigured shortly https://wiki.test.koha-community.org |
| 22:25 |
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dcook |
The CSRF patches didn't get much attention... |
| 22:25 |
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thd |
s/Experements/Experiments/ |
| 22:25 |
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dcook |
tcohen is going to be RM for the next cycle too, yeah? |
| 22:26 |
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davidnind[m] |
looks like he has put his hat in the ring! |
| 22:26 |
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lukeg |
tcohen++ |
| 22:27 |
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davidnind[m] |
#action tcohen to schedule/call a "CSRF day" to work on related patches together - deferred until after the 22.11 release |
| 22:27 |
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thd |
The wiki may need updates from usage edits for better relevance in search queries. |
| 22:27 |
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dcook |
I'll be CSRF-proofing 22.11 in early 2023, so if we can agree on a process, I'm happy to do a lot of the authoring... |
| 22:28 |
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dcook |
Definitely needs a group effort overall though.. |
| 22:28 |
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davidnind[m] |
#info cait to update LTS wiki page with current information from last dev meeting - volunteer required as cait is crazy busy! |
| 22:28 |
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davidnind[m] |
dcook++ |
| 22:29 |
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davidnind[m] |
#info volunteers required for updating info LTS wiki page with info from last meeting |
| 22:30 |
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davidnind[m] |
#action davdnind to send a request to the mailing list for someone to update LTS wiki page (will do if no one else is available) |
| 22:30 |
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davidnind[m] |
CSRF? |
| 22:31 |
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davidnind[m] |
#action tcohen [WAIT until after 21.11 release] to draft proposal for master→main change and draft of action list |
| 22:32 |
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davidnind[m] |
#action oleonard ashimema draft in the developer handbook how to form our modals. With template of a simple case and a case with form inside. |
| 22:32 |
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davidnind[m] |
#info ashimema has started a draft of the style guide (https://annuel.framapad.org/p/[…]styleguide-draft), oleonard will probably be focusing on template fixes until the release |
| 22:33 |
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davidnind[m] |
#info khall offered to restore progress bars if people file bugs depending on bug 31666 for that |
| 22:33 |
|
huginn` |
Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=31666 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to master , Add job progress bar to stage-marc-import.pl |
| 22:33 |
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davidnind[m] |
That's all the action points unless anyone else has anything to add for all of the above! |
| 22:34 |
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davidnind[m] |
#topic General development discussion |
| 22:35 |
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davidnind[m] |
Has anyone got any updates or things to share on what is happening at the moment - I'll defer the git-bz discussion until the next meeting |
| 22:36 |
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dcook |
Not really I suppose. |
| 22:36 |
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dcook |
Juggling a number of things at the moment. Focused on security things a bit. |
| 22:36 |
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davidnind[m] |
A lot of work going into fixes and refinements for the staff interface change - hopefully it will be nicely polished by release time! |
| 22:37 |
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davidnind[m] |
I might send an email to the development list about the git-bz topic and alternatives - that way there may be some things to consider |
| 22:38 |
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davidnind[m] |
tcohen has been pushing all the bugs - currently down to 14 passed QA! |
| 22:39 |
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davidnind[m] |
the QA Team have been doing a great job as well - trying to keep things under control |
| 22:40 |
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davidnind[m] |
lukeg: do you have an release maintainer updates? |
| 22:42 |
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lukeg |
22.05.06 was released yesterday |
| 22:42 |
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lukeg |
Things seem to be moving along without issue |
| 22:42 |
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davidnind[m] |
excellent! |
| 22:42 |
|
wahanui |
darn tootin' it is. |
| 22:43 |
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davidnind[m] |
I think all the other supported versions have had their releases as well |
| 22:43 |
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davidnind[m] |
#topic Review of coding guidelines |
| 22:44 |
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davidnind[m] |
I think I will defer SQL8 item, unless anyone wants to say anything about it |
| 22:45 |
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davidnind[m] |
#info Agenda item about SQL8 coding guideline deferred until the next meeting |
| 22:46 |
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davidnind[m] |
Anything else anyone would like to raise before we set the time for the next meeting? |
| 22:47 |
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thd |
Oh yes |
| 22:48 |
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thd |
When using the new MediaWiki VisualEditor, it is best to save any changes before switching to the source code editor or vice a versa. |
| 22:49 |
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thd |
Switching between the two editing modes without first saving changes might sometimes create a problem even it is just extra white space. |
| 22:50 |
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davidnind[m] |
#info When using the new MediaWiki VisualEditor, it is best to save any changes before switching to the source code editor or vice a versa |
| 22:50 |
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davidnind[m] |
I like the visual editor - I use it when occasionally editing Wikipedia - it generally works very well |
| 22:51 |
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thd |
I have not seen a problem. Most reported problems from Wikipedia seem to be users switching without realising that they are no longer in the VisualEditor and not knowing what to do. |
| 22:51 |
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davidnind[m] |
thd: I'm assuming that if anyone finds any issues they should add then to the bug or reply to your message on the list? |
| 22:51 |
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thd |
Users accidentally ending in source code mode may have broken templates unintentionally on some Wikipedia pages. |
| 22:52 |
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thd |
Bugs are best in bugzilla. |
| 22:52 |
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thd |
Bugs are legion :) |
| 22:52 |
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davidnind[m] |
I've not heard of anyone in the New Zealand Wikipedia community having any issues with the VisualEditor, so fingers crossed! |
| 22:53 |
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davidnind[m] |
#info Please log any Wiki upgrade issues in Bugzilla |
| 22:53 |
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davidnind[m] |
#topic Set time of next meeting |
| 22:53 |
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thd |
VisualEditor is not necessarily the problem but confused user and as with any WYSIWIG imperfect code correspondence. |
| 22:53 |
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davidnind[m] |
The time of the next meeting was set at the last meeting, so... |
| 22:53 |
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davidnind[m] |
#info Next meeting: 9 November 2022, 15:00 UTC |
| 22:55 |
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davidnind[m] |
For the one after that for the Oceania/Americas time slot on 26 October is 22:00 UTC OK? (Same time as this one) |
| 22:55 |
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davidnind[m] |
Or would you like it earlier or later? |
| 22:56 |
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thd |
Or the same? |
| 22:57 |
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thd |
Poor attendance may be an especially busy time for many. |
| 22:58 |
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davidnind[m] |
We'll leave it the same - otherwise, raise on the development mailing list to propose a new time |
| 22:58 |
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thd |
tcohen might have been here later but not earlier for him. This is commute time for Eastern US. |
| 22:58 |
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thd |
The same time will be an hour earlier next time in the US. |
| 22:58 |
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davidnind[m] |
Daylight savings ends in Europe (mostly) this weekend, so will be an hour earlier next time for them |
| 22:59 |
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davidnind[m] |
thd: that may mean more attendees, so yeah! |
| 22:59 |
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davidnind[m] |
#endmeeting |
| 22:59 |
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huginn` |
Meeting ended Wed Oct 26 22:59:37 2022 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) |
| 22:59 |
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huginn` |
Minutes: https://meetings.koha-communit[…]-10-26-22.01.html |
| 22:59 |
|
huginn` |
Minutes (text): https://meetings.koha-communit[…]2-10-26-22.01.txt |
| 22:59 |
|
huginn` |
Log: https://meetings.koha-communit[…]26-22.01.log.html |
| 22:59 |
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davidnind[m] |
Thanks everyone for attending! |
| 23:00 |
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thd |
Presumably the scripts which update the wiki for meeting times will have failed. |
| 23:01 |
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davidnind[m] |
tuxayo++ (for sending me the action point progress notes) |
| 23:01 |
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thd |
We need the DNS change and then update LocalSettings.php to even test. |
| 23:01 |
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davidnind[m] |
it's manually run, so I won't run until the migration is complete with the DNS, etc |
| 23:01 |
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thd |
... and update TLS certificate on the server. |
| 23:03 |
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thd |
Should have been done already. I waited too long to examine some detail in the upgrade logs which seems to be irrelevant errors about deleted spammers accounts not having proper IDs even though they are valid users. |
| 23:05 |
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thd |
I had to investigate for better confidence. |
| 23:05 |
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davidnind[m] |
hope it is not too much of an issue... |
| 23:06 |
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davidnind[m] |
maybe as we will soon have an upgrade Wiki, we should look at purging accounts that haven't been used in a specified period of time |
| 23:06 |
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thd |
The upgrade script was complaining that we might not have good attribution for deleted spam content with deleted accounts. |
| 23:07 |
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thd |
All deleted spam has user id 0 or something like that if the spam user was deleted as my best guess for the error. |
| 23:08 |
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davidnind[m] |
hopefully not an issue then.... (too technical for me 🙂) |
| 23:09 |
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thd |
The deleted users are still in the database marked as deleted along with their deleted contributions ;) |
| 23:09 |
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davidnind[m] |
I guess that makes snese... |
| 23:10 |
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davidnind[m] |
snese/ sense |
| 23:11 |
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thd |
That is my best guess about the error. The script which is available to fix the error does not do anything because it is designed to fix attributions for users of different wiki with revision history imported from a different wiki. |
| 23:13 |
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thd |
I did not recognise any users who appeared in the list with the error which was a strong clue that the users were removed for good reason. |
| 23:14 |
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davidnind[m] |
I think until moderation of new user accounts was added (several years ago now), it was a bit of a problem |
| 23:14 |
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thd |
Removed but still there most likely as deleted users. The error reports that the user works but cannot create some anonymous record for them. |
| 23:15 |
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davidnind[m] |
I have only very occasionally approved a request that turned out to be a spam account - but these tend to be dealt with quite quickly... |
| 23:16 |
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thd |
The only other error which appears once is for a temporary table which is presumably created after the error complains that the temporary table is not there because that error goes away. |
| 23:17 |
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thd |
Wikipedia is so big that it needs temporary tables for some things because it takes months to update the real table with their volume of changes. |
| 23:18 |
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davidnind[m] |
it's looking very good so far - I'm sure it will be a great relief to you to have this done once the last few tasks are ticked off (DNS, TLS, email, etc) |
| 23:18 |
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thd |
There will always be more to do. |
| 23:19 |
|
thd |
There are some Docker container specific bugs which is annoying. Those are new. |
| 23:19 |
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davidnind[m] |
yeah, the pace of edits and how Wikipedia is managed and updated is a modern miracle! |
| 23:20 |
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thd |
https://wiki2.test.koha-commun[…].org/wiki/History |
| 23:20 |
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davidnind[m] |
Maybe we should have a role for Wiki System Administrator? |
| 23:20 |
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thd |
We do |
| 23:20 |
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thd |
I think that is me or mtj and I. |
| 23:20 |
|
thd |
Error creating thumbnail: Unable to save thumbnail to destination |
| 23:21 |
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thd |
I have to delete the existing image thumbnail and then all will be fine. |
| 23:23 |
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davidnind[m] |
I was think a permissionerror - seems to be a lot of search results for the same error |
| 23:24 |
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thd |
I temporarily broke a test wiki trying to fix that error. Restarting the Docker container fixed the test wiki. |
| 23:24 |
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davidnind[m] |
excellent! |
| 23:24 |
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wahanui |
darn tootin' it is. |
| 23:25 |
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davidnind[m] |
seems a common error: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki[…]il_to_destination |
| 23:25 |
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davidnind[m] |
glad you know how to fix it! |
| 23:26 |
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thd |
Not sure. There cannot be a permission problem because the Docker container runs as root. |
| 23:27 |
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davidnind[m] |
catch you later - another meeting to go to.... |
| 23:34 |
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davidnind[m] |
good luck with the rest of the migration, and I hope there are not any unexpected issues! |
