IRC log for #koha, 2022-09-29

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05:55 reiveune hello
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06:34 alex_ Bonjour
06:34 wahanui salut, alex_
07:56 davewood hi, we are currently working on a setup for multiple koha instances on a single machine and wonder if it is possible to have a single rabbitmq service rather then one for each koha instance.
07:59 fridolin davewood: yes it is
08:03 fridolin in koha-conf.xml we configured the hostname in message_broker/hostname
08:03 fridolin instead of localhost
08:05 davewood ah, thats why `ack -i -l rabbit` didnt yield any results :)
08:07 davewood if I pass options to `koha-create --mb-*` ... does that take care of queue creation and what else is requried in rabbitmq?
08:18 domm[m] so I assume that we can also set something like the queue name in the message broker, so that each instance has it's own message queue?
08:18 fridolin indeed
08:19 ashimema morning
08:19 fridolin i think this name is copy from memcached namespace
08:19 fridolin sorry i dont use koha-create
08:19 fridolin we edited manually
08:20 davewood there is no config option for a queue in koha-create or koha-conf.xml.
08:20 fridolin Bug 31649 some if then ;)
08:20 huginn` Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=31649 normal, P5 - low, ---, fridolin.somers, Needs Signoff , Acquisition basket CSV export fails if biblio does not exist
08:20 davewood well, I didnt find it is what I mean to say
08:23 ashimema @later tell liliputech can we have Bug 29325 - error 'Already in a transaction'  please
08:23 huginn` ashimema: The operation succeeded.
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08:38 marcelr hi #koha
08:38 marcelr ashimema++ # 21.11
08:40 marcelr ashimema: it seems to occur more often than that one instance?
08:42 ashimema mmm,
08:43 ashimema rmaint is a hard and somewhat overlooked/thankless task..
08:43 ashimema but it's vitally important.. I'm considering standing for stable next cycle.. but we're really short staffed at the moment so I'm not sure how well it would go down with the big bosses..
08:44 ashimema normally OK.. but at the moment we're recruiting hard and not really succeeding on finding people to fill the positions.
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09:27 marcelr bbl
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10:34 oleonard Hi #koha
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11:57 * cait waves
11:59 cait kidclamp++ # fixin bugs!
11:59 kidclamp and remembering to assign myself ;-)
11:59 oleonard Hi cait & kidclamp
11:59 cait kidclamp: you don't want to send me coookies? :)
12:00 kidclamp Hah, I mean, I do, but trying to be good
12:03 cait ok, that's fair :)
12:03 oleonard If kidclamp forgets to assign a bug to himself he has to send cookies?
12:04 kidclamp I may have done so a ridiculous many times
12:05 cait he is a repeat offender (or how do you say that?)
12:06 oleonard That's correct cait
12:09 * oleonard wonders which of his bad habits will require cookies
12:09 ashimema lol
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12:20 marcelr o/
12:21 cait oleonard: we hsould probably keep sending you cookies...
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12:28 cait heya rangi[m]
12:29 cait @seen rangi
12:29 huginn` cait: rangi was last seen in #koha 1 year, 15 weeks, 5 days, 16 hours, and 46 seconds ago: <rangi> ive been accused of worse
12:29 cait @seen rangi[m]
12:29 huginn` cait: (seen [<channel>] <nick>) -- Returns the last time <nick> was seen and what <nick> was last seen saying. <channel> is only necessary if the message isn't sent on the channel itself. <nick> may contain * as a wildcard.
12:30 oleonard @seen rangi*
12:30 huginn` oleonard: rangi* could be rangi[m] (8 weeks, 0 days, 14 hours, 4 minutes, and 11 seconds ago), rangi_ (41 weeks, 2 days, 15 hours, 17 minutes, and 57 seconds ago), or rangi (1 year, 15 weeks, 5 days, 16 hours, 1 minute, and 41 seconds ago)
12:30 oleonard *sigh* I miss seeing rangi...
12:31 oleonard When Europe leaves work this place is a ghost town
12:32 tcohen hola #koha
12:33 oleonard Hi tcohen
12:34 oleonard caroline++ # for bringing maple cookies to KohaCon2022
12:37 marcelr cookies++
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12:50 oleonard Wow davidnind is quick on the draw, especially considering it's like 2AM there? Bug 31653 signed off 10 minutes after I posted the patch
12:50 huginn` Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=31653 trivial, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Signed Off , jQuery upgrade broke search button hover effect
12:54 marcelr davidnind++
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13:01 marcelr bug 31503 needs a signoff :)
13:01 huginn` Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=31503 enhancement, P5 - low, ---,, Needs Signoff , Allow several consent types on the consents tab of OPAC account page
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14:46 domm[m] What's the best way to get some feedback on two feature request (which we get paid to implement): Bug 31654
14:46 huginn` Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=31654 new feature, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , Hide non-public libraries from MastheadLibraryPulldown
14:46 domm[m] and Bug 31652
14:46 huginn` Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=31652 new feature, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Add geo-search
14:46 domm[m] just mention them here?
14:49 oleonard If you're requesting feedback I'd advise also mentioning them on the Koha mailing list
14:50 oleonard domm[m]: And assign them to yourself if you're working on them
14:51 domm[m] ok, I've taken them
14:51 domm[m] and will send two mails to the dev list, but tomorrow...
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15:12 * cait sends oleonard cookies
15:12 cait but have to elave this ghost town now too :(
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15:12 oleonard Ghost cookies
15:21 reiveune bye
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15:32 caroline Does anyone know if this is possible in the checkout *email* (not checkout slip, but the email, letter code CHECKOUT) https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]ate_on_issue_slip
15:33 caroline actually, the library wants both the current value https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]ems_on_issue_slip and the total value (link above)
15:33 caroline they don't want to print slips, only send emails
15:35 caroline I think old_checkouts are not available to the CHECKOUT notice (as per https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]le_in_each_notice) So I don't think I'll be able to have the total value to date
15:45 lukeg caroline: can you get lifetime savings to work on an ISSUESLIP
15:45 lukeg I always encounter this problem: https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=26648
15:45 huginn` Bug 26648: normal, P5 - low, ---, martin.renvoize, Failed QA , Prevent internal server error if item attached to old checkout has been removed
15:46 caroline lukeg, let me try...
15:46 lukeg I can make it work, until I encounter a deleted item
15:46 caroline ooh...
15:50 davewood im trying to create a koha instance with remote mariadb server.
15:50 davewood https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]e_a_Koha_instance
15:50 davewood > create a new file in its place containing the connection information for the server, in the form of a my.cnf file.
15:50 davewood what does that mean?
15:51 davewood the only my.cnf file that I can find on the system is /etc/mysql/my.cnf and that doesnt look right
15:52 davewood wiki really sucks here, if i can figure it out I can make an update
15:52 davewood sorry for ranting, this is a frustrating experience :)
15:55 caroline lukeg, I just tried it on 22.05 and the total price seems to follow the current price (e.g. when I had two items checked out, both prices were the same, when I returned one item, both prices went down to the same amount)
15:56 caroline so no, the total value doesn't seem to work... :(
16:08 caroline I think the problem I have with the CHECKOUT notice is that the FOREACH thing doesn't work... If I add FOREACH checkout in checkouts, nothing appears
16:09 caroline If I use ---- I see the biblio/item information for each checkout, but the price doesn't get added in each loop
16:10 caroline e.g. I'm checking out two books, one with a price of 18.95 and one with 12.95. If I use ---- to repeat the biblio info, my total value is 18.95
16:11 caroline (by total value I mean total of currently checked out)
16:34 davewood after reading the koha-create source i have a feeling this --request-db/--populate-db stuff cant possibly work. --populate-db is trying to get the db passwort using getinstancemysqluser() but that function is a wrapper around xmlstarlet and i was just told to write the new db password into a txt file.
16:34 davewood told by koha-create --request-db
16:36 davewood and /etc/koha/sites/koha-demo/koha-conf.xml 0 bash  1 bash  2* bash                               nbdt  6:36pm  29/0
16:36 davewood sorry
16:37 davewood and /etc/koha/sites/$sitename/koha-conf.xml still contains some autogenerated data for the db password
16:38 lukeg caroline: I can confirm the old_checkout object is NOT available to you in the CHECKOUT notice
16:38 lukeg So i think you could get the savings of the items currently checked in, but not the lifetime savings
16:40 lukeg I check with Dumper to see if a thing is available or not in TT
16:40 lukeg [% USE Dumper %] [% Dumper.dump_html( some_var ) %]
16:42 pastebot "caroline" at pasted "Would this be the correct FOREACH syntax to get juste the title?" (5 lines) at
17:53 mtj hi davewood, the doco is only for local mysql install
17:53 mtj 'Create a Koha instance - Only do this if you are running MySQL locally'
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19:05 jim hi
19:05 jim Can someone tell me if I can rename ZipCode in Patron reg
19:08 oleonard jim: In the OPAC or staff interface?
19:09 jim For OPAC in Self Registeration
19:10 jim I want to change it to Pincode
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19:12 pastebot "oleonard" at pasted "jim: put this in OpacUserJS system preference" (3 lines) at
19:12 oleonard Note that this isn't a good solution if your OPAC is multi-language
19:12 jim We only keep it in English
19:15 jim I tried it didn't change anything
19:17 oleonard jim: What version of Koha are you on? Is your OPAC public?
19:18 jim my opac is public but we have username password protection
19:18 jim I am right now using
19:19 jim at home I use 22.05
19:20 jim Where i was testing the changes first
19:22 oleonard Sorry jim I don't know why it's not working for you.
19:22 oleonard Gotta go, so good luck
19:24 jim ok
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21:49 davewood mtj: no its not, but the instructions for the non-local mariadb installation are lacking.
23:14 davidnind[m] Do we have a recommended line length for source files in Koha? Like 72 or 80?
23:15 davidnind[m] I'm looking at creating a .editorconfig file for the manual.
23:29 tuxayo davidnind: it doesn't look like it
23:30 davidnind[m] Thanks tuxayo! I had a look, but couldn't find anything - maybe it comes down to whatever is set by IDEs. code editors
23:30 tuxayo The manual is such a different project that it could have very different coding standards.
23:31 tuxayo > I had a look, but couldn't find anything
23:31 tuxayo Same, including the coding guideline about complying to perlcritic at level 5. It doesn't care about line length it seems
23:31 davidnind[m] For documentation I didn't used to see the point - as it is more narrative and most editors have word wrap
23:32 davidnind[m] However, it helps with diffs so you can see what has changed
23:33 tuxayo > maybe it comes down to whatever is set by IDEs. code editors
23:33 tuxayo I feel it's very rare that editors have a default line length.
23:33 tuxayo > However, it helps with diffs so you can see what has changed
23:33 tuxayo Ah good point.
23:33 davidnind[m] I think I'll post to the docs mailing list and see if anyone has any views, one way or the other...
23:41 tuxayo +1

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