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saa |
Warning The patron used for the self checkout module at the OPAC does not have the self_check => self_checkout_module permission. where to set this permission |
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davidnind[m] |
saa: staff interface > patrons > view the details for the account setup for self checkout > More button > Set permissions |
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| 06:06 |
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davewood |
mtj: didnt mean to rub you the wrong way, what im saying is that the docs do mention non-local-DB setups and even have some instructions but they are not very clear and can use some improvement. |
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marcelr |
hi #koha |
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mtj |
davewood: no problem... i now see the doco has info for remote install too |
| 06:24 |
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mtj |
"If you are running MySQL on another server:" |
| 06:30 |
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mtj |
the doc needs some example config files hey |
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reiveune |
hello |
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marcelr |
o/ |
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alex_ |
Bonjour |
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davewood |
mtj: I can update the docs once I have all the pieces together |
| 07:17 |
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cait |
good morning #koha! |
| 07:19 |
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marcelr |
hi cait |
| 07:21 |
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cait |
hi marcelr :) |
| 07:29 |
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davewood |
fridolin: you said you dont use koha-create. Whats your alternative way? |
| 07:32 |
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cait |
davidnind[m]: I think Biblibre is not using packages |
| 07:33 |
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cait |
there are other installation methods, that don't use the package commands but the Makefile.pl (standard, dev) |
| 07:33 |
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cait |
(not sure if frido is around, given time difference) |
| 07:34 |
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davewood |
biblibre is where fridolin works I guess? |
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Vinod |
hello |
| 07:36 |
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Guest1835 |
ok |
| 07:37 |
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Guest1835 |
one of my customer is interested to see Demo of Koha Library Management Software |
| 07:40 |
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davewood |
cait: which installation method is recommended? |
| 07:40 |
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cait |
packages |
| 07:40 |
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wahanui |
packages are done |
| 07:42 |
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cait |
but should maybe let frido or someone else explain their setup, just wanted to say there are other ways you can install Koha too |
| 07:42 |
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davewood |
bad question ... which koha instance creation method is recommended. koha-create or Makefile.PL ... especially when it comes to non-local DB setup |
| 07:44 |
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fridolin |
davewood: yep i work for Biblibre (France) |
| 07:45 |
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cait |
I have never done non-local - I woudl guess it's possible with all installation methods |
| 07:45 |
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fridolin |
we have an home-made intall script using dev install mode |
| 07:45 |
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cait |
fridolin: sorry if I said something wrong |
| 07:45 |
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fridolin |
one Koha per OS |
| 07:45 |
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fridolin |
cait: your totally correct |
| 07:46 |
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fridolin |
our install mean upgrades are done manually |
| 07:46 |
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fridolin |
packages are great |
| 07:48 |
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cait |
we roll our own packages including some changes, having a mix of one instance and multi-instance servers |
| 07:51 |
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davewood |
fridolin: we are currently working on a ansible/lxc setup where all containers running koha share one mariadb, ES server. |
| 07:52 |
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davewood |
after peeking into Makefile.PL it looks like --install_mode=standard could be the right thing for us |
| 07:53 |
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cait |
I am not sure if you will not lose all the package commands if you do that |
| 07:53 |
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cait |
what speaks against a package install in that setup? |
| 07:53 |
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davewood |
the koha-create --request-db/--populate-db didnt work so far. |
| 07:53 |
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cait |
you can always adapt the koha-conf.xml - but maybe it's possible to set the koha-site-defaults too (I haven't checked yet) |
| 07:54 |
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davewood |
it tells me to edit the *-request.txt file and add the DB credentials but after that nothing ever seems to use that file. |
| 07:55 |
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cait |
maybe worth chatting to soem about this issue first |
| 07:55 |
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cait |
someone might be running separate db and be able to tell you |
| 07:55 |
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davewood |
thats what i started doing yesterday. also wrote an email to koha devel mailinglist. |
| 07:55 |
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cait |
ah, didn't see that one yet |
| 07:56 |
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fridolin |
we sometimes use remote DB but we configure that manually |
| 07:57 |
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cait |
davewood: when did you send the email? https://lists.koha-community.o[…]ptember/date.html |
| 07:58 |
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davewood |
to: Koha-devel lists.koha-community.org subject: koha-create with remote mariadb server |
| 07:58 |
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davewood |
https://lists.koha-community.o[…]ember/047322.html |
| 08:18 |
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cait |
thanks I had missed that |
| 08:19 |
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cait |
maybe try asking here a bit later today - crowds change with the timezones |
| 08:38 |
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davewood |
cait: will do, thanks |
| 08:46 |
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davewood |
found a bit more info here: https://github.com/Koha-Commun[…]mon.README.Debian |
| 08:53 |
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davewood |
wow, i made a mistake myself here, I am not supposed to change the data in the txt file genereated by `koha-create --request-db` but rather take the autogenerated credentials from that file and create mysql database/user with it |
| 09:11 |
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davewood |
whats supposed to be passed to `koha-create --defaultsql`? |
| 09:17 |
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davewood |
on a fresh debian installation. there has got to be a database template for a fresh koha instance. /usr/share/koha/defaults.sql.gz does not exist. |
| 09:28 |
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mtj |
davewood: i think it it will use /usr/share/koha/intranet/cgi-bin/installer/data/mysql/kohastructure.sql |
| 09:34 |
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mtj |
if you think |
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mtj |
hmm, it does not use any defaultsql fiel by default |
| 09:39 |
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mtj |
davewood: so try using /usr/share/koha/intranet/cgi-bin/installer/data/mysql/kohastructure.sql |
| 09:43 |
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mtj |
koha-create --populate-db --defaultsql ./xxx/kohastructure.sql lib1 |
| 09:44 |
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mtj |
^ you will need to manually add the db stuff to the remote database, before running that |
| 09:46 |
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cait |
mtj: could you also run the web installer? |
| 09:46 |
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mtj |
yes, i think so |
| 09:46 |
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cait |
I am wondering how you get the superlibrarian etc. if you do it that wy, missing the onboarding |
| 09:48 |
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mtj |
i think the web-install expects an empty db, with a correct db user/passwd |
| 09:49 |
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mtj |
superlibrarian user gets created at webinstall stage |
| 09:50 |
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mtj |
hmm, i wonder why the populate step is needed then? |
| 09:53 |
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mtj |
sudo koha-create --request-db lib1 |
| 09:53 |
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mtj |
sudo koha-create --use lib1 |
| 09:53 |
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mtj |
that should work... |
| 09:54 |
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mtj |
manually adding db and user to remote, after request-db step |
| 10:09 |
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ashimema |
morning |
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oleonard |
Hi #koha |
| 10:46 |
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davewood |
mtj: pretty sure kohastructure.sql doesnt work because koha-create.sql does a search and replace for the string '__KOHASITE__' and that doesnt exist in kohastructure.sql |
| 10:47 |
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davewood |
s/koha-create.sql/koha-create/ |
| 10:59 |
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mtj |
davewood: so where do you think you are stuck? |
| 10:59 |
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ashimema |
marcelr++ |
| 11:14 |
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davewood |
mtj: i think im stuck at the fact that there is no easy+clean way to automate a koha installation + instance creation with remote database. looks like I have to use the web installer. right now im doing some try&error stuff to figure out how it can be done. |
| 11:17 |
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mtj |
yeah, the current workflow expects a sysadmin to manually create a db/user on the remote database |
| 11:20 |
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davewood |
that I think I can automate but the database table creation seems to be invoked by the web installer only |
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| 11:32 |
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davewood |
and the fact that `koha-create --populate-db` cant possibly work without passing --defaultsql but its unlclear what the value should be. |
| 11:32 |
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davewood |
if you dont use --defaultsql you probably have to run the web installer |
| 11:56 |
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domm[m] |
Is there a way to get bugzilla to not jump to another ticket after an edit/update? |
| 11:56 |
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domm[m] |
I find that mighty confusing.. |
| 11:57 |
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oleonard-away |
domm[m]: Yes, it's an option in Preferences |
| 11:58 |
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oleonard |
Under Preferences -> General Preferences -> After changing a bug... |
| 11:58 |
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domm[m] |
oleonard: thanks, got it! |
| 12:02 |
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cait |
lol |
| 12:02 |
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cait |
i just had the same bugzilla support question by phone .) |
| 12:20 |
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oleonard |
:| |
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davewood |
i advanced a few steps and now im stuck at http://koha-demo-intra.myDNSna[…]taller/install.pl ... the credentials in /etc/koha/sites/koha-demo/koha-conf.xml dont work (Error: Invalid username or password). the remote DB still has no tables. |
| 13:24 |
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cait |
you can't get in? |
| 13:24 |
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cait |
into the web installer? |
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davewood |
nope |
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cait |
the tables are created aftr the login has happened, so that it's still empty would be right |
| 13:24 |
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davewood |
i hoped so |
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davewood |
Please log in with the username and password given to you by your systems administrator and located in your koha-conf.xml configuration file. |
| 13:24 |
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cait |
you are using the mysql credentials from the koha-conf.xml? |
| 13:25 |
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davewood |
it doesnt say which credentials to use, i tried what I thought made sense |
| 13:25 |
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cait |
there is a package command to get these |
| 13:25 |
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cait |
then you don't need to look in the file |
| 13:26 |
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davewood |
I didnt think of using the database credentials. they work! thanks cait. |
| 13:27 |
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cait |
there is also some koha-... command that prints them for you |
| 13:27 |
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cait |
but I am not sure what it's called right now |
| 13:28 |
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cait |
is it green? connection to db alright? (second page or so) |
| 13:28 |
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davewood |
koha-passwd? |
| 13:28 |
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cait |
sounds very likely |
| 13:29 |
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domm |
davewood: I'm also often confused by the fact that you need the DB-credentials when running an update/install, even though it's the web interface. But it makes sort-of-sense, because the update script uses the DB credentials to connect to the DB and install the schema |
| 13:31 |
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davewood |
can the stuff the web installer does be run from commandline isntead of my browser? |
| 13:34 |
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davewood |
alright ... koha instance up and running. |
| 13:34 |
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cait |
there is a script for adding superlibrarians |
| 13:35 |
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cait |
but it needs a category type before you can run that... |
| 13:35 |
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cait |
mybe if you create an sql file that has all those first steps done and populate your db with that instead of running the installer? |
| 13:41 |
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davewood |
that might work but it doesnt seem like a good idea somehow. im happy for now and will send the info I gather as a reply to my own request on the devel koha mailinglist |
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cait |
davewood: we usually run the web installer here too, not that many that it gets tedious really |
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AndrewFH |
Hello! I kinda remember seeing a bug recently to make it possible to check a patron's messaging preferences via Template Toolkit in notices. I haven't been able to find it again, though. Sound familiar to anyone? |
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AndrewFH |
it was https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=30076 . thankful to find I did not make it up |
| 14:13 |
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huginn` |
Bug 30076: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, RESOLVED FIXED, Add ability to check patron messaging preferences from a notice |
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reiveune |
bye |
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lukeg |
hi |
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wahanui |
bonjour, lukeg |
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oleonard |
Hi lukeg |
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oleonard |
Bye lukeg |
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caroline |
cait++ |
| 21:02 |
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cait |
:) |
| 21:02 |
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cait |
i tihnk the c will be even better, a needs a follow-up |
| 21:03 |
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cait |
just running the make command to see if I now finally fixed all warns there |
| 21:03 |
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caroline |
I followed your lead and started with w :) |
| 21:04 |
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cait |
ah, I am using a regex to find and fix - still reviewing each one, but it speeds up |
| 21:04 |
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cait |
do you want that? |
| 21:04 |
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caroline |
ooh, yes! So far there were only like 6-10 in both w files |
| 21:06 |
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cait |
search for: :ref:`(\w+)` |
| 21:06 |
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cait |
replace with: :ref:`\1 <\1-label>` |
| 21:06 |
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cait |
that owrks in geany, maybe some editors want $1 instead of \1 |
| 21:12 |
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cait |
caroline: patch for c is attached, going back now to fix some remaining issues in a |
| 21:23 |
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cait |
I've also changed the python.conf entry, so I can see the warns for any missing labels after changes |
| 21:31 |
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cait |
moving to e and f :) |
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davidnind[m] |
cait++ |
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davidnind[m] |
caroline++ |
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cait |
davidnind++ |
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cait |
:) |
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cait |
G-I are next |
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cait |
tackling l-o next |
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caroline |
you're so fast! |
| 22:01 |
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caroline |
I just puched my merge request for T and W |
| 22:01 |
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caroline |
I have to go, birthday party tonight! |
| 22:02 |
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cait |
ooh have fun! |
| 22:02 |
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cait |
your birthday party? |
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caroline |
no, my partner's cousin |
| 22:03 |
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caroline |
cait++ davidnind++ docsteam++ |
| 22:03 |
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cait |
ah good, didn't miss it then :) have a great evening and weekend |
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