IRC log for #koha, 2022-06-23

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02:37 thd mtj: Are you present?
03:00 davidnind[m] tuxayo++
03:00 davidnind[m] (For use the new status 'Needs documenting')
03:00 davidnind[m] s/use/using/
04:34 mtj hi thd, here now.. sorry about the lateness
04:37 mtj ..i can sort some VMs with more ram, to avoid our OOM problem
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06:34 reiveune hello
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06:45 alex_ Bonjour
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06:51 cait1 good morning #koha
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07:30 simon_ is the debian server slow right now? i am trying to run a debian upgrade
07:32 simon_ apt upgrade stops with a timeout warning for 67.220.127.145
07:33 ashimema ktd++ tcohen++ The README is Soo much clearer now
07:33 ashimema morning #koha:matrix.org
07:37 simon_ apt slows down more and more and at some point throws an error
07:42 simon_ now it succeeded but very slowly
07:42 Joubu mtj: ^^?
07:53 mtj hi Joubu, simon_... there is a big job that runs daily, takes 3-ish hours
07:54 mtj ..and its running now
07:57 mtj gmcharlt: would you pleese consider running the perldoc/generate_koha_pod.pl cronjob, with a 'nice 19'?
07:58 mtj ..on the kohawiki box
08:00 thd mtj: Did you have any "WARNING: ftell mismatch with expected position" when running pg_restore on a wiki dump?
08:00 Joubu ashimema: reported on bug 31022
08:00 huginn Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=31022 major, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , 400/404 actually returns 500
08:01 mtj hi thd, many thanks for the email update, i plan to take a look tonight
08:03 mtj hi thd: would you like a VM with more RAM? would 20G do?
08:04 thd I was wondering if the ftell warning might not appear if you tried pg_restore on Debian 7 or Debian 8 and could be a consequence of running pg_restore on Debian 9.
08:07 thd mtj: The OOM issue I have from time to time only happens when I overburden my VPS with non-koha related tasks spawning too many processes.  It would seem inappropriate for me to offload those onto a Koha VM.
08:09 thd mtj: Moving some Koha testing on to a VM with 20G of RAM could be good if I had enough sleep and time.
08:11 thd mtj: I just awoke for a few minutes after falling asleep in my chair unrestfully.  I need to sleep properly lying down as I have to show up for work today and was working overnight the previous night :)
08:11 mtj the 20G vm can be a personal one for you
08:12 thd mtj: Do you have you own server farm?
08:12 mtj ha no... but i have my own server
08:13 mtj i can do a 20G vm for you, no probs
08:14 mtj thd: i think the  pg_restore error is probably specific to a PG version
08:15 mtj prod wiki is running postgresql-9.4 (9.4.26-2.pgdg80+1)
08:19 thd Fortunately, it is a warning and not an error from posgresql 9.6.24-0+deb9u on Debian 9.
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08:41 thd mtj: I have never noticed an actual problem from the pg_restore warning but every other Postgres warning in testing wiki database migration resulted in data loss.  This warning is for restore from the production system dump so everything depends upon that.
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09:24 * thd sleeps
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10:32 vfernandes hi #koha
10:34 vfernandes it's possible to set Koha plugins to run under plack?
10:35 vfernandes https://github.com/Koha-Commun[…]plates/plack.psgi
10:35 vfernandes 3 mount points: opac, intranet and api
10:36 vfernandes it's possible to add another for plugins?
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11:06 kidclamp vfernandes: I thought they were run under plack
11:06 oleonard o/
11:08 kidclamp \o
11:28 pastebot "tcohen" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "docker run -v /Users/tcohen/gi" (1 line) at https://paste.koha-community.org/10283
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11:47 tcohen hola #koha
11:48 * oleonard wonders what someone is looking for when the webserver 404 log has "/.atime" variations in it...
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12:19 tcohen tuxayo: check the new `ktd --logs` option
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13:03 tcohen tuxayo, liliputech please try KOHA_IMAGE=21.05 ktd up
13:03 tcohen as opposed to export KOHA_IMAGE=21.05 ; ktd up
13:04 tcohen well. both work
13:04 tcohen not sure what's wrong for you :-D
13:40 cait1 oleonard: still around?
13:41 oleonard Yep
13:41 cait1 you shared screenshots recently for the icons on the cataloguing forms, is there any hope for bug 7826?
13:41 huginn Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7826 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , Standardize link for triggering plugins and auto-entry
13:42 ashimema so if we're encouraging ktd -d what's the best way to bring it down again now tcohen?
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13:42 oleonard cait1: It's still on my to-do list
13:43 cait1 ok, thx!
13:43 * oleonard has so many unfinished projects :(
13:44 cait1 it came up in our team meeting today, so I got the task to ask :)
13:45 cait1 ... and you have a lot of finished projects too
13:46 oleonard That's a good way of thinking about it! :)
13:46 cait1 glass is always half full :)
13:49 * ashimema just felt good clearing down the new 'Needs documenting' queue a bit 🙂
14:00 tuxayo tcohen: if it's about the .env, we commented KOHA_IMAGE inside to circumvent the issue of .env precedence over ENV vars
14:03 tuxayo ashimema: hopefully we do not encourage -d by default to have error messages by defaut
14:03 ashimema mm
14:03 ashimema stll
14:04 ashimema is 'kd' still the recommended approach to stop
14:04 tuxayo ktd down to stop de thing
14:04 ashimema coolios
14:04 tuxayo Both work
14:05 * ashimema just found his first docs update that was highlighted by the new workflow 🙂
14:06 tuxayo (That is just my tests, tcohen still know the actual vision, I don't know what they plan to recommend)
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14:26 ashimema oleonard around still?
14:26 oleonard STILL!!
14:26 * oleonard falls over dead
14:26 ashimema bug 30599
14:26 huginn Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=30599 normal, P5 - low, ---, nick, Needs documenting , Allow archiving multiple suggestions
14:26 ashimema haha
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14:26 ashimema I wanted your thoughts on the UI
14:27 oleonard I will take a look
14:27 ashimema because it just adds another 'col-sm-2' div without adjusting the existing one's I think it looks a bit odd below the others
14:27 ashimema i.e the col- now no longer adds up to 12 😜
14:28 ashimema the obvious quick fix is to adjust the other ones down to make it fit alongside.. but I think the better fix would be to combine the 'Archive' and 'Delete' fieldsets
14:28 ashimema they feel weird as they are to me now
14:38 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 31013: Quote branchcodes in Elasticsearch limits <https://git.koha-community.org[…]c0e7f497ae3618c85>
14:38 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 25669: (follow-up) Minor fixes <https://git.koha-community.org[…]541fe13ce2a5ac49e>
14:38 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 25669: Use include_type_name parameter in ES calls <https://git.koha-community.org[…]d3681caa64441d53a>
14:39 caroline_catlady I was just documenting this this week... I admit it looks a bit weird, but it's also weirdly logical that they'd be in the same column?
14:39 caroline_catlady (Archive and delete I mean)
14:40 ashimema I agree.. I think they should be in the same div though rather than two fieldsets
14:40 caroline_catlady The fact that they are very well separated also minimizes the risk of mistakenly deleting suggestions when you really want to archive them
14:40 ashimema they feel so closely related
14:40 ashimema fair
14:41 tcohen tuxayo: I couldn't reproduce, locally
14:41 ashimema so perhaps not so
14:41 tcohen and the docker docs say ENV has precedence over .env
14:41 caroline_catlady just my opinion, do what you will with it
14:41 tcohen maybe you're using a different docker distribution (older?)
14:41 tcohen I'm using the official one
14:41 ashimema so your already documenting it are you caroline
14:41 ashimema I'll assign you on bugzilla over me then 🙂
14:42 caroline_catlady yes, I kind of went crazy and i'm redoing the whole chapter... david is going to hate me
14:42 ashimema I love it..
14:42 ashimema but beware..
14:42 ashimema we're considering a cleanup of that area at the moment..
14:42 ashimema I was somewhat troubled by the UI when I reviewed the patch to drop GetSuggetsions
14:43 caroline_catlady oh well, I have only two sections to go, so...
14:43 ashimema hehe
14:43 ashimema we won't work that quickly so it's still a worthwhile endeavour to clean it up 🙂
14:43 caroline_catlady and anyway EVERYTHJING will have to be redone if/when the staff interface desing gets in
14:44 caroline_catlady *redesign
14:46 ashimema true
14:46 * ashimema is desperate to see some code submissions there
14:46 ashimema I don't want it left to the end of the cycle
14:48 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 30947: (follow-up) Remove unnecessary object cloning <https://git.koha-community.org[…]95ff46cee128ea81f>
14:48 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 30947: Add test for Illrequest checkout with custom due date <https://git.koha-community.org[…]0f847aec143f4a1a9>
14:48 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 30947: Simplify CanBookBeIssued date handling <https://git.koha-community.org[…]d4d80b808cb7c6263>
14:51 oleonard ashimema: Looking at it now, I realize I started to tinker with it at one point and then forgot about it :/
14:51 oleonard Or maybe I gave up XD
14:52 ashimema Hehe
14:52 ashimema That's kinda where I got too.. it feels wrong as is to me, but we hen I dug into it I wasn't sure what would be better
14:53 ashimema I tend to think process should be archive then delete.. rather than allowing for both at the same time myself
14:53 ashimema But that's a bigger change
14:53 * tcohen is thinking what the first enh/new feature push in master would be
14:54 ashimema middle names.. it's small and nice 😜
14:54 ashimema and I'm not biased at all.. haha
14:54 tcohen I was thinking a long standing one, like 'adults can have guarantors'
14:55 ashimema nice
14:55 ashimema more adventurous and worthwhile
15:05 tcohen default '0' for a tinyint
15:07 ashimema is it a boolean?
15:07 ashimema assuming so
15:08 ashimema depends on context but my gut says false/0 makes sense in most cases?
15:09 tcohen I would've expected a 0 instead of a string
15:10 ashimema oh
15:10 ashimema lol
15:10 ashimema I presumed
15:10 ashimema I read it as a int.. haha
15:13 reiveune bye
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15:16 alohabot 🎁 🦄 Koha 'master' packages pushed to 'koha-staging' repo  ðŸ¡ðŸ¥’🥧
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16:52 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 12446: (follow-up) Fix patron categories sample data <https://git.koha-community.org[…]f63c7f06dfda2b992>
16:52 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 12446: (QA follow-up) Rename canbeguarantee => can_be_guarantee <https://git.koha-community.org[…]e1df510588260bdbb>
16:52 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 12446: (QA follow-up) Minor kohastructure.sql fix <https://git.koha-community.org[…]6ea75a04f4333485f>
16:52 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 12446: DBRev 22.06.00.004 <https://git.koha-community.org[…]9babc7d9aa0287c1c>
16:52 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 12446: DBIC update <https://git.koha-community.org[…]10c5a7ab8400f933a>
16:52 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 30950: Remove timepicker.inc <https://git.koha-community.org[…]39e0f67f3cb302c42>
16:52 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 12446: Fix typos <https://git.koha-community.org[…]02866ed05b5b440ee>
16:52 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 12446: Add canbeguarantee value to patron categories sample data <https://git.koha-community.org[…]30a31eb055c09e29d>
16:52 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 12446: Limit available categories when using "Add guarantee" button <https://git.koha-community.org[…]c8480756b8e4b9044>
16:52 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 12446: Ability to allow guarantor relationship for all patron category types <https://git.koha-community.org[…]83a38d9eafcf202eb>
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17:08 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed!
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17:08 wahanui Congratulations!
17:15 alohabot 🎁 🦄 Koha 'master' packages pushed to 'koha-staging' repo  ðŸ˜ðŸ„🥕
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18:24 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed!
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18:24 wahanui Congratulations!
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19:01 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 24239: DBRev 22.06.00.005 <https://git.koha-community.org[…]26c665f7b2a220c5c>
19:01 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 24239: (QA follow-up) Make dbrev idempotent <https://git.koha-community.org[…]f82c7bbfcf23c8359>
19:01 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 24239: DBIC update <https://git.koha-community.org[…]4a964203fb2ee5211>
19:01 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 24239: (QA follow-up) Rename date_due => due_date <https://git.koha-community.org[…]2c8d56f0a55dd15aa>
19:01 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 24239: Unit tests <https://git.koha-community.org[…]de7a79d2c1aa5a1b2>
19:01 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 24239: Add column illrequests.date_due <https://git.koha-community.org[…]6ad75e1c6106c9aca>
19:01 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 29057: Use font awesome icons on request.pl <https://git.koha-community.org[…]b48fe7369ff511d10>
19:01 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 24239: Let the ILL module set ad hoc hard due dates <https://git.koha-community.org[…]f0f76f6660c8d3d24>
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19:10 tcohen bye all
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19:15 alohabot 🎁 🦄 Koha 'master' packages pushed to 'koha-staging' repo  ðŸ¥ŸðŸ¢ðŸ—
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20:44 davidnind[m] caroline++
20:46 caroline I wouldn't ++ me too fast davidnind[m] , you havent seen what's coming
20:46 davidnind[m] I'm sure it will be a great update 😄
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22:08 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed!
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22:08 wahanui Congratulations!
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