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good morning #koha |
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fridolin |
Bug 1234 |
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huginn` |
Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]w_bug.cgi?id=1234 enhancement, P2, ---, paul.poulain, CLOSED WORKSFORME, Parameter: Bar Code # Prefix for book / patron searching |
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jsut a test |
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AnkeB |
Hi, does anyone know if running bulkmarcimport.pl always requires a full zebra rebuild, or is there a way to do it incrementally? |
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tcohen |
hola #koha |
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cait |
AnkeB: I am not sure if it updates/creates entries in zebraqueue ... but for Elasticsearch it might not require a reindex? |
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cait |
kidclamp: maybe you could help? bulkmarcimport and reindexing? |
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AnkeB |
Thanks - currently we use Zebra so we need to know for zebra. Perhaps the indexer daemon simply doesn't get an information when a record has been updated unless it was done over the staff interface? |
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ashimema |
I don't believe bulkmarcimport adds to zebraqueue |
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tcohen |
it doesn't |
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ashimema |
that's a deliberate thing I believe.. as it's meant for migrations really.. |
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ashimema |
however... |
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tcohen |
commit_file.pl does |
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ashimema |
yup |
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ashimema |
you could use stage_file + commit_file for that use case |
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ashimema |
it's also worth taking a look at bug 29440 |
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huginn` |
Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=29440 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Needs Signoff , Refactor/clean up bulkmarcimport.pl |
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ashimema |
it quietly adds 'defer_search_engine_indexing' as an option to bulkmarcimport |
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ashimema |
which prevents elastic indexing so you can do a bulk index after import |
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ashimema |
ES and Zebra are too distinct right now.. we should really clean the functionality up |
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tcohen |
lets move indexing to a background task |
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ashimema |
deffo |
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ashimema |
it's on Joubu's list isn't it |
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tcohen |
the ES part it is done |
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ashimema |
in fact.. didn't I already review that stuff and it was blocked by a bunch of things I think we've now done to improve the background worker pool |
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tcohen |
I was going to joke 'if only someone would do it' |
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* ashimema |
still likes how refined our zebra indexing daemon has got |
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ashimema |
I still somewhat wonder about having ES indexing happening in the general task queue is a good idea.. it feels like an important enough process that it should get it's own monitored thing |
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ashimema |
but.. I suppose that could still happen using the existing worker pool stuff |
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ashimema |
now we have that |
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tcohen |
worker pool? |
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ashimema |
as in.. we need to ensure we have enough 'workers' to take on the 'tasks'.. |
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ashimema |
else a 'bulk modification' could result in a complete staff of regular indexing |
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tcohen |
we could make koha-indexer deal with this, right? |
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ashimema |
for example |
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wahanui |
i think for example is not fixed |
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ashimema |
Joubu's code all relied on the background tasks stuff |
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oleonard |
wahanui: forget for example |
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wahanui |
oleonard: I forgot for example |
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ashimema |
and that, at the time of writing, basically only allowed for one worker doing a fifo grab from the list of tasks |
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cait1 |
AnkeB: for Zebra every record when changed gets added tot he zebraqueue table |
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cait1 |
just to explain - then the indexer looks at that for which records needs to be indexed and updated the 'done' column once done |
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cait1 |
we think that the bulkmarcimport script doesn't add to the table |
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cait1 |
if you have a list of bibionumbers, you might be able to tell the indexer to only index those... or what we sometimes do is add the entries to zebraqueue with SQL |
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cait1 |
when we do bulk updates for items with SQL for example, I have some statements to add entiries to zebraqueue for reindexing the ones I have touched |
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tcohen |
you can use touch_all_biblios.pl wit ha specially crafted --where parameter to enqueue those records |
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cait1 |
oh that's nice too |
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jzairo |
hello! |
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AnkeB |
Thanks everybody, this is really helpful! |
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* oleonard |
remembers having a reason for not doing authors as part of Bug 27613 but now doesn't remember what it was |
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huginn` |
Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=27613 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, lucas, Failed QA , Pipe separated online resource links are hard to customize |
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cait1 |
oleonard: maybe because the xslt is quite scary? |
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oleonard |
Yes probably! |
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wahanui |
probably is too hard. |
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cait1 |
it's in utils I think |
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oleonard |
thanks wahanui probably is too hard |
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bbl |
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davidnind1 |
Slept in for my own meeting,,,, |
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cait1 |
oh no :( |
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cait1 |
i missed the docs meeting too |
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davidnind |
and computer problems... |
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davidnind |
well after all that I think it will be better to defer unless the doc team members are around |
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cait1 |
i am still here |
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cait1 |
not sure about others |
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davidnind |
lucyvh was |
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davidnind |
caroline was training today |
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davidnind |
very annoyed with myself :-( |
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cait1 |
it happens, I should have set myself an alarm too |
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cait1 |
got lost in this data I am working on |
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cait1 |
maybe just reschedule? I'll try to make it |
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cait1 |
I wanted to bring up bug 29063 |
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huginn` |
Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=29063 major, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , [DOCS] Manual: Translation issue with repeated strings in system preferences |
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davidnind |
that sounds pretty major |
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davidnind |
is it for all of them or just some? |
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davidnind |
weird, I have to approve my own messages when posting to koha-docs... |
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cait1 |
davidnind: sorry, got a delivery - I think the schema was used for all prefernces... so the problem is for all prefernces files too |
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cait1 |
i stopped translation to German because of that |
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davidnind |
thanks cait1 - I will have a look into it and see if we can get it fixed as soon as possible |
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cait1 |
thanks davidnind - maybe good to discuss, i think different directions we could fix this |
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reiveune |
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tcohen |
hola |
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wahanui |
hola, tcohen |
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davidnind |
cait: happy to discuss bug 29063 whenever you have time |
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davidnind |
just to make sure I've understand it corrrectly (for the manual): |
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davidnind |
- previously you would get something like 'Don't use' and 'Use' as separate strings to translate |
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davidnind |
- that way you can translate using the right word, depending on the reset of the sentence |
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davidnind |
- but now you are getting 'Don't use Use' as one string to translate |
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Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=29063 major, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , [DOCS] Manual: Translation issue with repeated strings in system preferences |
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kellym |
hello |
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davidnind |
hi kellym! |
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kellym |
hello davidnind |
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kellym |
did I miss the meeting? I am very bad at UTC time |
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davidnind |
you didn't - feeling very embarrassed as I slept in.. which was not great! |
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kellym |
goodness what time is it there- dare I ask? |
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davidnind |
5am - I'm normally awake then so it it would not normally be a problem! |
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fridolin |
kellym: we use a lot https://24timezones.com |
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davidnind |
I'm always confused by US time zones - are the main ones ET and PT? |
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kellym |
I should bookmark that! |
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kellym |
yes, but there is also Central and Mountain |
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fridolin |
you can bookmark 2 clocks |
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fridolin |
in europe there is DST, it is hell |
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* fridolin |
in Tahiti UTC-10 (and 30°C) |
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kellym |
Tahiti sounds nice |
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fridolin |
https://24timezones.com/us_clock/usa_time.php piouf USA is complexe, there are 6 TZ |
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fridolin |
why is it not "Atlantic Time Zone" for Eastern TZ :D |
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davidnind |
must make it fun in the US organising meetings |
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kellym |
totally fun |
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fridolin |
and for servers sync ^^ |
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kellym |
#info Kelly McElligott, ByWater Solutions |
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kellym |
I can’t even imagine, thankfully we have a rocking systems team to do that ;) |
| 21:18 |
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davidnind |
excellent! |
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wahanui |
darn tootin' it is. |
| 21:19 |
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fridolin |
i actually work in my evening to catch France morning, they are in tomorrow for me |
| 21:19 |
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fridolin |
Google Calendar is a good help, it shows both TZ |
| 21:20 |
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fridolin |
we pacific poeple like to live slowly, in the past ^^ |
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davidnind |
were always in the future here in New Zealand, just about everyone else is in the past:) |
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fridolin |
https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]_22_December_2021 |
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fridolin |
I've followed instructions to edit last meeting page with irc logs and created next meeting for 22 |
| 22:03 |
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fridolin |
seeee you there |
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fridolin |
!help |
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davidnind |
fridolin++ |
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fridolin |
davidnind: i dont have permission to add to Google Calendar, do you ? |
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davidnind |
I don't - I think it is Joubu, ashimema, and caroline |
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fridolin |
oki thanks |
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fridolin |
davidnind: and how do you use "tell later" please ^^ ? |
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davidnind |
are you happy top have a documentation update at the meeting? apologies for not making the last one.. |
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cait |
Hi fridolin - did you use Joubu's script or all manual? |
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davidnind |
@later tell fridolin a message |
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huginn` |
davidnind: The operation succeeded. |
| 22:09 |
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fridolin |
yep for doc update |
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fridolin |
ah thanks |
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fridolin |
cait: script ? |
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wahanui |
hmmm... script is so darn hard coded and sequential in the first place it was a nightmare to make some of it work with notices |
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cait |
yes |
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fridolin |
where is it ? |
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cait |
it's all automated |
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cait |
best if you ask Joubu or maybe ashimema |
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cait |
it also adds the 'actions from last meeting' in |
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fridolin |
sure, thanks |
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cait |
and i think we maybe want to updatte the template used for the docs update |
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fridolin |
https://gitlab.com/koha-community/koha-meetings i bet |
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cait |
it's possible :) |
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fridolin |
@later tell Joubu can you give me a hand on https://gitlab.com/koha-community/koha-meetings and permissions to edit calendar and this repo (thanks a lot) |
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huginn` |
fridolin: The operation succeeded. |
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fridolin |
rocks ! |
| 22:15 |
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cait |
and if there is old information on the wiki, we should probably update it |
| 22:15 |
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cait |
it never ends, right? |
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fridolin |
sure |
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cait |
fridolin: hope to get the bug clean-up done next week - stlil on my list |
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fridolin |
yep when you can |
