Time Nick Message 22:26 fridolin yep when you can 22:26 cait fridolin: hope to get the bug clean-up done next week - stlil on my list 22:25 fridolin sure 22:15 cait it never ends, right? 22:15 cait and if there is old information on the wiki, we should probably update it 22:12 fridolin rocks ! 22:12 huginn` fridolin: The operation succeeded. 22:12 fridolin @later tell Joubu can you give me a hand on https://gitlab.com/koha-community/koha-meetings and permissions to edit calendar and this repo (thanks a lot) 22:10 cait it's possible :) 22:10 fridolin https://gitlab.com/koha-community/koha-meetings i bet 22:10 cait and i think we maybe want to updatte the template used for the docs update 22:09 fridolin sure, thanks 22:09 cait it also adds the 'actions from last meeting' in 22:09 cait best if you ask Joubu or maybe ashimema 22:09 cait it's all automated 22:09 fridolin where is it ? 22:09 cait yes 22:09 wahanui hmmm... script is so darn hard coded and sequential in the first place it was a nightmare to make some of it work with notices 22:09 fridolin cait: script ? 22:09 fridolin ah thanks 22:09 fridolin yep for doc update 22:08 huginn` davidnind: The operation succeeded. 22:08 davidnind @later tell fridolin a message 22:08 cait Hi fridolin - did you use Joubu's script or all manual? 22:08 davidnind are you happy top have a documentation update at the meeting? apologies for not making the last one.. 22:08 fridolin davidnind: and how do you use "tell later" please ^^ ? 22:07 fridolin oki thanks 22:07 davidnind I don't - I think it is Joubu, ashimema, and caroline 22:06 fridolin davidnind: i dont have permission to add to Google Calendar, do you ? 22:05 davidnind fridolin++ 22:05 fridolin !help 22:03 fridolin seeee you there 22:02 fridolin I've followed instructions to edit last meeting page with irc logs and created next meeting for 22 22:02 fridolin https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Development_IRC_meeting_22_December_2021 21:22 davidnind were always in the future here in New Zealand, just about everyone else is in the past:) 21:20 fridolin we pacific poeple like to live slowly, in the past ^^ 21:19 fridolin Google Calendar is a good help, it shows both TZ 21:19 fridolin i actually work in my evening to catch France morning, they are in tomorrow for me 21:18 wahanui darn tootin' it is. 21:18 davidnind excellent! 21:18 kellym I can’t even imagine, thankfully we have a rocking systems team to do that ;) 21:18 kellym #info Kelly McElligott, ByWater Solutions 21:18 fridolin and for servers sync ^^ 21:17 kellym totally fun 21:16 davidnind must make it fun in the US organising meetings 21:16 fridolin why is it not "Atlantic Time Zone" for Eastern TZ :D 21:15 fridolin https://24timezones.com/us_clock/usa_time.php piouf USA is complexe, there are 6 TZ 21:15 kellym Tahiti sounds nice 21:12 * fridolin in Tahiti UTC-10 (and 30°C) 21:12 fridolin in europe there is DST, it is hell 21:11 fridolin you can bookmark 2 clocks 21:11 kellym yes, but there is also Central and Mountain 21:11 kellym I should bookmark that! 21:11 davidnind I'm always confused by US time zones - are the main ones ET and PT? 21:10 fridolin kellym: we use a lot https://24timezones.com 21:08 davidnind 5am - I'm normally awake then so it it would not normally be a problem! 21:08 kellym goodness what time is it there- dare I ask? 21:07 davidnind you didn't - feeling very embarrassed as I slept in.. which was not great! 21:07 kellym did I miss the meeting? I am very bad at UTC time 21:05 kellym hello davidnind 21:04 davidnind hi kellym! 21:02 kellym hello 20:15 huginn` Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=29063 major, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , [DOCS] Manual: Translation issue with repeated strings in system preferences 20:15 davidnind - but now you are getting 'Don't use Use' as one string to translate 20:15 davidnind - that way you can translate using the right word, depending on the reset of the sentence 20:15 davidnind - previously you would get something like 'Don't use' and 'Use' as separate strings to translate 20:15 davidnind just to make sure I've understand it corrrectly (for the manual): 20:15 davidnind cait: happy to discuss bug 29063 whenever you have time 17:32 wahanui hola, tcohen 17:32 tcohen hola 17:29 reiveune bye 17:17 cait1 thanks davidnind - maybe good to discuss, i think different directions we could fix this 17:09 davidnind thanks cait1 - I will have a look into it and see if we can get it fixed as soon as possible 17:06 cait1 i stopped translation to German because of that 17:06 cait1 davidnind: sorry, got a delivery - I think the schema was used for all prefernces... so the problem is for all prefernces files too 17:01 davidnind weird, I have to approve my own messages when posting to koha-docs... 16:37 davidnind is it for all of them or just some? 16:36 davidnind that sounds pretty major 16:32 huginn` Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=29063 major, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , [DOCS] Manual: Translation issue with repeated strings in system preferences 16:32 cait1 I wanted to bring up bug 29063 16:32 cait1 maybe just reschedule? I'll try to make it 16:32 cait1 got lost in this data I am working on 16:32 cait1 it happens, I should have set myself an alarm too 16:32 davidnind very annoyed with myself :-( 16:31 davidnind caroline was training today 16:30 davidnind lucyvh was 16:30 cait1 not sure about others 16:29 cait1 i am still here 16:29 davidnind well after all that I think it will be better to defer unless the doc team members are around 16:27 davidnind and computer problems... 16:22 cait1 i missed the docs meeting too 16:22 cait1 oh no :( 16:18 davidnind1 Slept in for my own meeting,,,, 15:51 * oleonard-away bbl 13:03 oleonard thanks wahanui probably is too hard 13:02 cait1 it's in utils I think 13:02 wahanui probably is too hard. 13:02 oleonard Yes probably! 13:02 cait1 oleonard: maybe because the xslt is quite scary? 13:01 huginn` Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=27613 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, lucas, Failed QA , Pipe separated online resource links are hard to customize 13:01 * oleonard remembers having a reason for not doing authors as part of Bug 27613 but now doesn't remember what it was 12:49 AnkeB Thanks everybody, this is really helpful! 12:46 jzairo hello! 12:23 cait1 oh that's nice too 12:22 tcohen you can use touch_all_biblios.pl wit ha specially crafted --where parameter to enqueue those records 12:17 cait1 when we do bulk updates for items with SQL for example, I have some statements to add entiries to zebraqueue for reindexing the ones I have touched 12:16 cait1 if you have a list of bibionumbers, you might be able to tell the indexer to only index those... or what we sometimes do is add the entries to zebraqueue with SQL 12:16 cait1 we think that the bulkmarcimport script doesn't add to the table 12:16 cait1 just to explain - then the indexer looks at that for which records needs to be indexed and updated the 'done' column once done 12:15 cait1 AnkeB: for Zebra every record when changed gets added tot he zebraqueue table 12:09 ashimema and that, at the time of writing, basically only allowed for one worker doing a fifo grab from the list of tasks 12:09 wahanui oleonard: I forgot for example 12:09 oleonard wahanui: forget for example 12:09 ashimema Joubu's code all relied on the background tasks stuff 12:08 wahanui i think for example is not fixed 12:08 ashimema for example 12:08 tcohen we could make koha-indexer deal with this, right? 12:08 ashimema else a 'bulk modification' could result in a complete staff of regular indexing 12:08 ashimema as in.. we need to ensure we have enough 'workers' to take on the 'tasks'.. 12:07 tcohen worker pool? 12:07 ashimema now we have that 12:07 ashimema but.. I suppose that could still happen using the existing worker pool stuff 12:07 ashimema I still somewhat wonder about having ES indexing happening in the general task queue is a good idea.. it feels like an important enough process that it should get it's own monitored thing 12:06 * ashimema still likes how refined our zebra indexing daemon has got 12:05 tcohen I was going to joke 'if only someone would do it' 12:05 ashimema in fact.. didn't I already review that stuff and it was blocked by a bunch of things I think we've now done to improve the background worker pool 12:05 tcohen the ES part it is done 12:05 ashimema it's on Joubu's list isn't it 12:05 ashimema deffo 12:05 tcohen lets move indexing to a background task 12:04 ashimema ES and Zebra are too distinct right now.. we should really clean the functionality up 12:04 ashimema which prevents elastic indexing so you can do a bulk index after import 12:04 ashimema it quietly adds 'defer_search_engine_indexing' as an option to bulkmarcimport 12:02 huginn` Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=29440 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Needs Signoff , Refactor/clean up bulkmarcimport.pl 12:02 ashimema it's also worth taking a look at bug 29440 12:01 ashimema you could use stage_file + commit_file for that use case 12:01 ashimema yup 12:01 tcohen commit_file.pl does 12:01 ashimema however... 12:01 ashimema that's a deliberate thing I believe.. as it's meant for migrations really.. 12:01 tcohen it doesn't 12:01 ashimema I don't believe bulkmarcimport adds to zebraqueue 11:55 AnkeB Thanks - currently we use Zebra so we need to know for zebra. Perhaps the indexer daemon simply doesn't get an information when a record has been updated unless it was done over the staff interface? 11:49 cait kidclamp: maybe you could help? bulkmarcimport and reindexing? 11:48 cait AnkeB: I am not sure if it updates/creates entries in zebraqueue ... but for Elasticsearch it might not require a reindex? 11:44 tcohen hola #koha 11:32 AnkeB Hi, does anyone know if running bulkmarcimport.pl always requires a full zebra rebuild, or is there a way to do it incrementally? 09:36 fridolin jsut a test 09:36 huginn` Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=1234 enhancement, P2, ---, paul.poulain, CLOSED WORKSFORME, Parameter: Bar Code # Prefix for book / patron searching 09:36 fridolin Bug 1234 08:57 cait1 good morning #koha 07:32 alex_a Bonjour 06:20 reiveune hello