IRC log for #koha, 2021-09-24

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06:07 reiveune hello
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06:15 marcelr hi #koha
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06:45 alex_a Bonjour
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07:00 magnuse \o/
07:14 cait good morning #koha
07:29 magnuse kia ora cait
08:02 ashimema morning
08:02 ashimema I moved bug 28762 on a bit marcelr
08:02 huginn Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=28762 normal, P5 - low, ---, lucas, Needs Signoff , Item status shows incorrectly on
08:02 marcelr ashimema++
08:02 ashimema but my digging has raised a couple of quandaries :(
08:03 ashimema they were already issues.. but weren't being highlighted really
08:03 marcelr quandaries??
08:03 ashimema questions/confusions
08:03 ashimema IndependantBranches handling is one..
08:03 ashimema the other is the holds table vs the tmp_holdsqueue table
08:04 ashimema I'm not familiar enough with some of the tt plugins.. my hope is that they handle the indy branches thing for me
08:12 marcelr i though that you knew all Koha, haha :)
08:12 ashimema lol
08:12 ashimema Koha's too big for anyone to know all of it ;)
08:12 marcelr having fun with the wantarray discussion,,
08:13 ashimema wow.
08:13 ashimema we use GetItemsInfo allot still
08:13 ashimema I bet we don't use most of the info it fetches most of the time though
08:14 ashimema for example.. did you know it always fetches the three most recent loans for the item and returns various detail about each of them..
08:14 ashimema I have no idea where that's used
08:19 marcelr refactor it please
08:25 ashimema lol
08:25 ashimema it's been added to the list
08:25 ashimema but alas.. the list is loooooong
08:25 ashimema as for wantarray..that's a very scary area isn't it
08:34 ashimema my feeling for this one is that we should get consistent and use wantarray as tomas suggests.. as you've shown, it's hard to spot issues so I think we do the best we can but look at pushing asap with a note to the dev mailing lists to be on the lookout for the sorts of issues it could create.
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08:40 claw23 Hello there. I have a problem with koha and it would be great if someone could help me:
08:40 claw23 i followed https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]ki/Koha_on_Debian
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08:41 claw23 no I am sitting on the login page
08:41 marcelr yes ashimema i commented something along those lines but with some dislike of Context.Scalar
08:41 claw23 i can not log in with the credentials in the koha-conf.xml
08:41 ashimema did you see comment 31
08:41 marcelr yes
08:42 claw23 but i can use them with mysql -u koha_koha -D koha_koha -p
08:42 ashimema thing.scalar.rel_accessor is a much nicer (and core TT) construct in my mind
08:42 claw23 there are absolutly no lines in the log files which could help
08:42 marcelr i dont know if we should get those constructions in templates at the first place
08:43 ashimema it's difficult
08:43 claw23 also: koha-create prints: staff user password is 'xxxx' but keep that secret
08:43 claw23 what's the "staff user"s username?
08:43 ashimema I'm never sure how much to do in controller level vs view level
08:43 marcelr normally if you chain you goto scalar
08:43 ashimema and with api's + single page apps becoming more and more the go to, I'm having fun challenges there too
08:44 marcelr claw23 you should have seen a username when you finished the web install
08:44 claw23 there is no web install
08:45 marcelr there is the onboarding stuff in that install that allows you to enter a user and password
08:45 claw23 i use koha-create and a login page is shown
08:45 marcelr go to the staff client
08:45 ashimema use the database login for that
08:45 claw23 ashimema: i did but i get redirected to the login page
08:45 claw23 it works for the mysql client
08:48 claw23 the credentials that work for mysql do not for the koha login page (the one that is on the url suffixed with "-intra")
08:52 claw23 how can i completely reset the installation process?
08:52 claw23 koha-remove && dropping mysql && rm -R /var/lib/koha/* does not
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09:59 cait claw23: did you create a fresh database or loaded an old one?
09:59 cait restarting memcache, plack etc. might trigger the web installer in the later case
09:59 cait bbl
10:05 ashimema anyone fancy pushing bug 11175 over the finish line
10:05 huginn Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=11175 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, joonas.kylmala, Signed Off , Show the parent record's component parts in the detailed views
10:06 ashimema I put so much into that bug in the end.. used a load of tuits
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11:21 oleonard Testing ILL stuff is always frustrating... I can never get the setup right
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11:30 ashimema hugs
11:41 oleonard I try to start from scratch and now it's "koha_1 exited with code 1" every time
11:46 oleonard Is this relevant? "AH00526: Syntax error on line 18 of /etc/apache2/ports.conf: Cannot define multiple Listeners on the same IP:port"
12:20 oleonard Can't locate object method "new" via package "Koha::Illbackends::Freeform::Base" (perhaps you forgot to load "Koha::Illbackends::Freeform::Base"?) at /kohadevbox/koha/Koha/ line 321
12:26 tcohen good morning
12:27 tcohen oleonard: did you tweak your koha-conf.xml to point to the place you put the backend in?
12:27 tcohen the error in apache is not related
12:29 oleonard Yup, koha-conf.xml refers to the directory in /usr/share/koha/lib/Koha/Illbackends which has a symlink to the cloned Freeform repo
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12:38 tcohen proposal: clone the thing, and point your config there
12:38 tcohen and restart all
12:39 * tcohen would avoid symlinks as a start, only to be sure
12:39 tcohen is this master? KTD?
12:39 tcohen I use the kup alias, which expects PLUGIN_REPO to point to a plugin
12:39 tcohen and I have a plugin that bundles an ILL backend
12:40 tcohen so I point to /kohadevbox/koha_plugin/Koha/Illbackends
13:08 oleonard It is master, KTD. I was hoping to keep a setup that wouldn't get destroyed every time I have to relaunch the system
13:09 ashimema just unblocked a tree of quick QA for your marcelr.. the article requests stuff
13:09 ashimema https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]raph.cgi?id=29086
13:10 tcohen I would like khall to review it as well, as the original author
13:10 * ashimema was very tempted to just go straight to PQA for these.. the logic seems really clear to me.. and I couldn't find any regressions in testing
13:11 tcohen ashimema: would you concur we could rename the methods 'article_requests_current' for 'current_article_requests'? Thinking of embedding those on the API responses, those names seem to be a better fit
13:15 ashimema seems reasonable to me
13:15 ashimema keeps them grouped nicely
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14:56 cait in positive news... hea jumped up to 16.000 libraries
14:56 oleonard Excellent
14:56 wahanui darn tootin' it is.
14:57 cait oleonard: for your ILL thing
14:57 cait naming - you need to make sure that yoour repo/symlink has the exact right name it expects
14:57 cait not koha-freeform or such
14:58 cait it has to be FreeForm
14:58 cait 3. in the instructions - i think that's the error you see
15:09 oleonard @later tell Joubu: Was it intended that Bug 12561 removed functionality?
15:09 huginn oleonard: The operation succeeded.
15:14 oleonard Thanks cait, that was my mistake
15:14 oleonard cait++
15:16 cait been there before... often
15:17 cait :)
15:18 * ashimema is on a QA rampage
15:19 ashimema seems no-one is picking up all the simple ones
15:31 cait yeah i was out this week
15:32 cait headachey on 2 days and tired the rest
15:32 tcohen headaches--
15:32 tcohen will be doing QA the following hours
15:32 tcohen school drop away from that
15:32 ashimema hugs,
15:32 cait thx tcohen
15:32 cait i shoudl be around some the next few days
15:32 ashimema that wasn't really aimed at you particularly tcohen
15:33 tcohen sure
15:33 tcohen heh
15:33 * ashimema just finds it kinda maddening to see some many 'trivials' in the queue
15:33 oleonard I'm trying to find stuff I'm qualified to sign off and it's tough
15:34 * tcohen is always learning to write better test plans
15:36 cait oleonard: i think noting that on a bug might help make people realize
15:36 cait because you know a lot about Koha
15:36 cait and i have been telling devs they need tos ign off too, but... :)
15:36 cait also yep, test plans
15:37 ashimema honestly.. things like colour changes for contrast.. you were great and worked through signing those off
15:38 reiveune bye
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15:38 ashimema but I personally would have been more than happy with you suggesting those go straight through to PQA with your signoff oleonard ;)
15:39 oleonard The button color one is tough, because it's definitely necessary but I'm having trouble with the color chosen
15:39 oleonard ...I don't much like it...
15:39 ashimema hehe
15:40 cait oleonard: same :)
15:40 cait but don't think black text will look much better contrast wise
15:40 ashimema is that the nav-links one?
15:40 cait all the buttons
15:40 cait but the go button for example
15:40 cait or the buttons on advanced search
15:40 ashimema bug number?
15:40 cait pass
15:41 oleonard 29036
15:41 cait i am just about to leave, sorry
15:41 oleonard Bug 29036
15:41 huginn Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=29036 minor, P5 - low, ---, bolshawh, Needs Signoff , Accessibility: OPAC buttons don't have sufficient contrast
15:41 * ashimema has been working though 'links' ones so far
15:41 ashimema ta
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15:43 ashimema hmm
15:43 ashimema that's a 'strong' green isn't it
15:46 ashimema wow
15:46 ashimema that's hard
15:49 ashimema I feel like we aught to get a bit more prescriptive about this
15:49 ashimema we don't exactly have guidelines around a pallet
16:05 ashimema time to call it a day
16:05 ashimema have a good weekend
16:14 oleonard Not as jarring if the other similar elements match in color:
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