IRC log for #koha, 2021-08-24

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00:06 tuxayo wahanui: hi :)
00:06 wahanui tuxayo: sorry...
00:06 tuxayo ?
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00:07 tuxayo oups, not the right person...
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00:27 fridolin hello
00:28 tuxayo hi fridolin :)
00:36 fridolin tuxayo: que tal ?
00:37 tuxayo release tomorrow ^^"
00:37 tuxayo you got a Signal message about that
00:37 tuxayo *just
00:59 fridolin oh i'm on it
00:59 * fridolin is changing is mobile number soon ;)
01:00 fridolin ok i have it
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04:31 dcook @later tell oleonard I don't know about everyone else but I have so much on that I rarely look here :|
04:31 huginn dcook: The operation succeeded.
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06:53 alex_a Bonjour
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08:28 SoniaB Hi Koha!
08:28 wahanui rumour has it Hi Koha! is there a table in which i can see if a borrower has borrowed any books (or if library lended out any books)
09:03 magnuse bonjour SoniaB
09:03 magnuse what a strange thing to say, wahanui
09:03 wahanui wish i knew, magnuse
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09:47 * cait waves
09:53 cait someone else around? :)
09:54 davidnind1 hi cait!
09:54 cait hi davidnind1!
09:54 cait isn't it terribly late for you again? :)
09:55 cait ah not that late yet
09:55 davidnind1 not really, coming up to 10pm
09:55 cait yeah, always so different with the daylight savings
09:55 davidnind1 still quite early for me :)
09:56 cait how are you doing?
09:56 davidnind1 I think it is a couple of months before we go to daylight savings
09:56 davidnind1 we are back in lock down :-/
09:58 davidnind1 we were all working from home anyway as we weren't able to go back into our building because of "seismic" issues
09:59 davidnind1 hope you are well and having a nice summer!
10:04 cait a very rainy summer so far, but was on vacation the last weeks, so that was nice
10:05 cait seismic issues doesn#t sound good - structural damage on your building or something like that?
10:06 cait davidnind1: as both Germany and NZ do daylight savings it's between 10 to 12 hours between us. So that's why I always get confused about early and late :)
10:06 davidnind1 :)
10:07 davidnind1 we're not sure yet, but engineers etc are working on the issue - they had just organised some temporary accommodation before lockdown started...
10:13 cait hope the lockdown will work and all infections can be traced
10:13 * magnuse too
10:13 oleonard o/
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10:16 davidnind1 making good progress - another week I think and we'll have a better idea...
10:18 oleonard Stark contrast to the US's defacto strategy of getting as many people infected as possible :(
10:23 davidnind1 just a bit... despite the naysayers and "we have to learn to live (die) with it" brigade the government is still sticking to its plan
10:30 oleonard I hope the news has reached the rest of the world that crazy right-wing Americans are taking horse de-worming pills instead of the vaccine. Everyone should know what kind of country we're dealing with here.
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10:43 magnuse oleonard: that piece of news has not reached norway...
10:43 oleonard https://www.theguardian.com/us[…]covid-coronavirus
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11:12 Eliza Hello. The Personal fields are locked. How do I unlock them?
11:13 Eliza we have just installed KOHA, and want to start the customization process.
11:13 Eliza any help is greatly appreciated
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11:14 oleonard Can you explain more what you mean?
11:16 Eliza we are trying to customize the cataologing fields. Under 'add MARC records', section 1 -100- main entry, the personal name field is locked
11:19 oleonard The default framework is set up so that the 100 field is linked to authority records. In that configuration you have to click the little icon next to the field to trigger an authority search.
11:19 oleonard You can change this by editing the MARC framework.
11:22 Eliza ok thanks. what does the little icon look like next to the 'field'?
11:24 oleonard https://snipboard.io/8EsPHK.jpg
11:26 oleonard https://koha-community.org/man[…]raphic-frameworks
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11:35 Eliza thank you/ SO we triggered an authroity search, and now are wondering how to edit the field in order to enter information? it is still locked
11:35 oleonard Do you use authority records?
11:37 Eliza first day using KOHA
11:37 Eliza so not exactly sure what authoriy records are
11:38 oleonard No problem. You probably want to "un-link" the 100 field from authority searches.
11:38 oleonard You do that in Administration -> MARC bibliographic frameworks.
11:38 oleonard (I linked to that section of the manual above)
11:40 cait I believe there is some info in the manual on this in the faq section
11:41 cait bbiab
11:43 oleonard Ah yes, thanks cait: https://koha-community.org/man[…].html#authorities
11:44 oleonard But I think editing the framework is also necessary
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11:49 oleonard Eliza: If you're just starting out, ByWater's Education resources can be helpful: https://bywatersolutions.com/education
11:56 tcohen hola
11:56 wahanui hi, tcohen
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12:57 cait oleonard: i am a little torn about bug 24406
12:57 huginn Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=24406 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, ASSIGNED , Remove patron category category type codes from patron search results
12:57 cait i still tihnk that the letters have no meaning to users - we get asked about it a lot
12:57 cait but wonder if others are attached to it... and if there is a clever way to resolve
12:57 cait apart from adding a span
13:01 magnuse i'd say those are not very useful
13:02 magnuse guess you get to choose between them when you add a new patron category, but then you only see the names, not the codes
13:02 cait yeah that is kind of my point
13:02 cait for english speaking it might still work as you can get from a to adult
13:02 cait c to child
13:02 cait but for others this doesn't
13:03 magnuse true
13:06 cait at the momen ti am even failing to find the right file to change this lol
13:10 cait found it
13:11 tcohen columns configuration?
13:12 cait tcohen: it's not in a separate column
13:13 tcohen ah
13:13 tcohen :-D
13:13 cait and i don't think it's the right spot
13:13 tcohen span then
13:13 cait yeah - got the wrong file btw... so still looking
13:13 tcohen this is the datatable, right?
13:13 cait yeah
13:14 oleonard I hadn't notice that bug cait, I'll take a look
13:14 cait thx!
13:15 oleonard I can't imagine the category type is useful to anyone. The category description is what's useful. The category type would really only be understood by admins in my opinion.
13:16 cait that's what i was guessing
13:16 tcohen member_results.tt
13:16 cait tcohen: not quite, that's the one used for acq and the like
13:16 cait i just figured that out
13:17 cait it also shows there
13:17 cait still looking for the big table on
13:17 cait e
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13:18 oleonard Random internet disconnection :/
13:18 cait wb :)
13:18 cait was just telling tcohen that members_results.tt is the small patron search
13:19 cait hm or maybe there are multiple
13:19 cait it's confusing me
13:21 cait koha-tmpl/intranet-tmpl/prog/en/modu​les/acqui/tables/members_results.tt - there are indeed multiple
13:21 tcohen it looks like the KohaTable is handled in member.tt
13:22 tcohen members/member.tt
13:24 tcohen cait
13:24 tcohen I meant members/tables/members_results.tt
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13:32 cait tcohen: yep - understood at last :)
13:38 tcohen awesome
13:38 tcohen we should nuke all that and just use the API
13:39 tcohen sorry, thinking out loud
13:40 cait from a display issue to nuking...
13:41 cait that went fast :)
13:41 cait oleonard: I've stopped poking at it for now - let me know what you think?
13:41 cait also happy to hand that one over... :)
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15:09 tcohen can someone take a look at bug 28870 please?
15:09 huginn Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=28870 critical, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Needs Signoff , Cart shipping fails because of Non-ASCII characters in display-name of reply-to address
15:09 tcohen it's been marked as critical
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22:51 tuxayo hi mtj :) I'm ready to publish the email and website announcements when the other branches + the packages will be ready

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