Time  Nick         Message
00:06 tuxayo       wahanui: hi :)
00:06 wahanui      tuxayo: sorry...
00:06 tuxayo       ?
00:07 tuxayo       oups, not the right person...
00:27 fridolin     hello
00:28 tuxayo       hi fridolin :)
00:36 fridolin     tuxayo: que tal ?
00:37 tuxayo       release tomorrow ^^"
00:37 tuxayo       you got a Signal message about that
00:37 tuxayo       *just
00:59 fridolin     oh i'm on it
00:59 * fridolin   is changing is mobile number soon ;)
01:00 fridolin     ok i have it
04:31 dcook        @later tell oleonard I don't know about everyone else but I have so much on that I rarely look here :|
04:31 huginn       dcook: The operation succeeded.
06:53 alex_a       Bonjour
08:28 SoniaB       Hi Koha!
08:28 wahanui      rumour has it Hi Koha! is there a table in which i can see if a borrower has borrowed any books (or if library lended out any books)
09:03 magnuse      bonjour SoniaB
09:03 magnuse      what a strange thing to say, wahanui
09:03 wahanui      wish i knew, magnuse
09:47 * cait       waves
09:53 cait         someone else around? :)
09:54 davidnind1   hi cait!
09:54 cait         hi davidnind1!
09:54 cait         isn't it terribly late for you again? :)
09:55 cait         ah not that late yet
09:55 davidnind1   not really, coming up to 10pm
09:55 cait         yeah, always so different with the daylight savings
09:55 davidnind1   still quite early for me :)
09:56 cait         how are you doing?
09:56 davidnind1   I think it is a couple of months before we go to daylight savings
09:56 davidnind1   we are back in lock down :-/
09:58 davidnind1   we were all working from home anyway as we weren't able to go back into our building because of "seismic" issues
09:59 davidnind1   hope you are well and having a nice summer!
10:04 cait         a very rainy summer so far, but was on vacation the last weeks, so that was nice
10:05 cait         seismic issues doesn#t sound good - structural damage on your building or something like that?
10:06 cait         davidnind1: as both Germany and NZ do daylight savings it's between 10 to 12 hours between us. So that's why I always get confused about early and late :)
10:06 davidnind1   :)
10:07 davidnind1   we're not sure yet, but engineers etc are working on the issue - they had just organised some temporary accommodation before lockdown started...
10:13 cait         hope the lockdown will work and all infections can be traced
10:13 * magnuse    too
10:13 oleonard     o/
10:16 davidnind1   making good progress - another week I think and we'll have a better idea...
10:18 oleonard     Stark contrast to the US's defacto strategy of getting as many people infected as possible :(
10:23 davidnind1   just a bit... despite the naysayers and "we have to learn to live (die) with it" brigade the government is still sticking to its plan
10:30 oleonard     I hope the news has reached the rest of the world that crazy right-wing Americans are taking horse de-worming pills instead of the vaccine. Everyone should know what kind of country we're dealing with here.
10:43 magnuse      oleonard: that piece of news has not reached norway...
10:43 oleonard     https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/aug/23/fda-horse-message-ivermectin-covid-coronavirus
11:12 Eliza        Hello. The Personal fields are locked. How do I unlock them?
11:13 Eliza        we have just installed KOHA, and want to start the customization process.
11:13 Eliza        any help is greatly appreciated
11:14 oleonard     Can you explain more what you mean?
11:16 Eliza        we are trying to customize the cataologing fields. Under 'add MARC records', section 1 -100- main entry, the personal name field is locked
11:19 oleonard     The default framework is set up so that the 100 field is linked to authority records. In that configuration you have to click the little icon next to the field to trigger an authority search.
11:19 oleonard     You can change this by editing the MARC framework.
11:22 Eliza        ok thanks. what does the little icon look like next to the 'field'?
11:24 oleonard     https://snipboard.io/8EsPHK.jpg
11:26 oleonard     https://koha-community.org/manual/21.05/en/html/administration.html#marc-bibliographic-frameworks
11:35 Eliza        thank you/ SO we triggered an authroity search, and now are wondering how to edit the field in order to enter information? it is still locked
11:35 oleonard     Do you use authority records?
11:37 Eliza        first day using KOHA
11:37 Eliza        so not exactly sure what authoriy records are
11:38 oleonard     No problem. You probably want to "un-link" the 100 field from authority searches.
11:38 oleonard     You do that in Administration -> MARC bibliographic frameworks.
11:38 oleonard     (I linked to that section of the manual above)
11:40 cait         I believe there is some info in the manual on this in the faq section
11:41 cait         bbiab
11:43 oleonard     Ah yes, thanks cait: https://koha-community.org/manual/21.05/en/html/faq.html#authorities
11:44 oleonard     But I think editing the framework is also necessary
11:49 oleonard     Eliza: If you're just starting out, ByWater's Education resources can be helpful: https://bywatersolutions.com/education
11:56 tcohen       hola
11:56 wahanui      hi, tcohen
12:57 cait         oleonard: i am a little torn about bug 24406
12:57 huginn       Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=24406 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, ASSIGNED , Remove patron category category type codes from patron search results
12:57 cait         i still tihnk that the letters have no meaning to users - we get asked about it a lot
12:57 cait         but wonder if others are attached to it... and if there is a clever way to resolve
12:57 cait         apart from adding a span
13:01 magnuse      i'd say those are not very useful
13:02 magnuse      guess you get to choose between them when you add a new patron category, but then you only see the names, not the codes
13:02 cait         yeah that is kind of my point
13:02 cait         for english speaking it might still work as you can get from a to adult
13:02 cait         c to child
13:02 cait         but for others this doesn't
13:03 magnuse      true
13:06 cait         at the momen ti am even failing to find the right file to change this lol
13:10 cait         found it
13:11 tcohen       columns configuration?
13:12 cait         tcohen: it's not in a separate column
13:13 tcohen       ah
13:13 tcohen       :-D
13:13 cait         and i don't think it's the right spot
13:13 tcohen       span then
13:13 cait         yeah - got the wrong file btw... so still looking
13:13 tcohen       this is the datatable, right?
13:13 cait         yeah
13:14 oleonard     I hadn't notice that bug cait, I'll take a look
13:14 cait         thx!
13:15 oleonard     I can't imagine the category type is useful to anyone. The category description is what's useful. The category type would really only be understood by admins in my opinion.
13:16 cait         that's what i was guessing
13:16 tcohen       member_results.tt
13:16 cait         tcohen: not quite, that's the one used for acq and the like
13:16 cait         i just figured that out
13:17 cait         it also shows there
13:17 cait         still looking for the big table on
13:17 cait         e
13:18 oleonard     Random internet disconnection :/
13:18 cait         wb :)
13:18 cait         was just telling tcohen that members_results.tt is the small patron search
13:19 cait         hm or maybe there are multiple
13:19 cait         it's confusing me
13:21 cait         koha-tmpl/intranet-tmpl/prog/en/modules/acqui/tables/members_results.tt - there are indeed multiple
13:21 tcohen       it looks like the KohaTable is handled in member.tt
13:22 tcohen       members/member.tt
13:24 tcohen       cait
13:24 tcohen       I meant members/tables/members_results.tt
13:32 cait         tcohen: yep - understood at last :)
13:38 tcohen       awesome
13:38 tcohen       we should nuke all that and just use the API
13:39 tcohen       sorry, thinking out loud
13:40 cait         from a display issue to nuking...
13:41 cait         that went fast :)
13:41 cait         oleonard: I've stopped poking at it for now - let me know what you think?
13:41 cait         also happy to hand that one over... :)
15:09 tcohen       can someone take a look at bug 28870 please?
15:09 huginn       Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=28870 critical, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Needs Signoff , Cart shipping fails because of Non-ASCII characters in display-name of reply-to address
15:09 tcohen       it's been marked as critical
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22:51 tuxayo       hi mtj :) I'm ready to publish the email and website announcements when the other branches + the packages will be ready