IRC log for #koha, 2021-07-16

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00:36 tuxayo
00:36 tuxayo > WARNING This module is still experimental.
00:36 tuxayo ^^
00:37 tuxayo Some uses of the word experimental are too cautious
00:37 tuxayo > The parts that currently exist do seem to work reliably
00:37 tuxayo Ok, not for this
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02:47 tuxayo
02:47 tuxayo {õ_õ}
02:47 tuxayo Server Error
02:47 tuxayo A server error has occurred. Thank you for your patience.
02:47 tuxayo At least there is a emoticon :D
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06:08 marcelr hi #koha
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06:09 reiveune hello
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06:59 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 28606: Remove warning from C4::Auth 887 <[…]475274ea58e5c99f4>
06:59 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 17600: Standardize our EXPORT_OK <[…]bc027b651f9aea52b>
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07:02 alex_a Bonjour
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07:20 jase_ hello
07:21 jase_ I would like to know koha elasticsearch work on koha version 3.14
07:22 marcelr you should not work with koha 3.14
07:22 jase_ Starting version for elasticsearch
07:23 marcelr we are at koha 21.05 there is only some support for 19.11
07:23 marcelr 3.14 is far too old
07:23 jase_ OK.
07:25 jase_ I have installed new version 20.05 with elasticsearch working fine. But i have huge data 20GB need to import on new koha with old biblionumbers
07:27 jase_ unfortunatly when i rebuld a record with bulkmarc which is creating new bilionumber. Have you any idea?
07:28 marcelr sounds like you should write small script to correct them?
07:28 Joubu you do you import the records?
07:28 jase_ please share how to do
07:28 marcelr bbiab
07:29 Joubu reinstall from scratch, load the DB dump, execute the DB update
07:30 jase_ yes i want to import all records into new system with bulkmarc or any tool. should keep biblionumbers with old number.
07:31 Joubu Don't you need the patrons, checkouts, etc.?
07:31 ashimema why don't you upgrade jase_
07:32 ashimema Koha's upgrade process has been pretty darn smooth for years
07:33 jase_ For examble -b -k=999cd -commit=1000 -file=/tmp/biblios.mrc -v -v  which is creating new biblionumber instead of old number in .mrc file.
07:34 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D11 build #338: UNSTABLE in 33 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]a_Master_D11/338/
07:35 ashimema what Joubu said.. why are you exporting your bibs and importing them into a new system
07:35 ashimema you should dump the database, restore that and run updatedatabase
07:36 ashimema Joubu, what's the best/simplest way to rebase patches for the EXPORT stuff..
07:36 ashimema run perlimport?
07:37 jase_ Beacuse i am using old koha 3.14. In new koha database structure is diffrent thats why i am importing
07:37 ashimema it doesn't matter
07:37 ashimema updatedatabase will fix all that for you
07:38 ashimema that's the point of it
07:38 ashimema it will run from any 3.x version through a series of steps to upgrade your database
07:38 ashimema unless you've got loads of customisation at the DB level it 'just works'
07:38 jase_ Can you please expain how to do.
07:39 jase_ I have last weekly dump(.sql) data
07:39 ashimema so restore the dump over the top of your new Koha install
07:39 jase_ Ok
07:39 ashimema then run make a cup of tea.. it'll take a while with that many upgrade steps
07:40 Joubu ashimema: manually
07:40 ashimema what type of install are you using.. package?
07:40 Joubu ashimema: read the commit message, I've tried to explain a bit
07:40 ashimema okies, thanks Joubu
07:40 ashimema just reading ti :)
07:40 jase_ I installed via package.
07:41 jase_ i am using debian 10
07:41 jase_ need to sent any parameter while running?
07:42 jase_ Like instance name or?
07:42 ashimema so that command you'll want it
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07:44 ashimema alternatively you could `koha-shell instance1` then run the script directly.. but I don't think there's any benefit to doing it that way round.
07:46 ashimema beware, for a version this old it will take a long time... we do things like upgrade the schema from utf8 to utf8mb4 and we add indexes and things.. those take time to process.. but in general the data is better for it and it's the easiest route to goal for getting a working system back with all your users, history etc all in tact.
07:49 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 17600: Fix tests <[…]1c96cfde08a8471a8>
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07:49 jase_ after updating, need to run koha-upgrade-schema?
07:49 ashimema no, they do the same
07:49 ashimema the later is just the packages way of running it.
07:49 ashimema koha-upgrade-schema calls updatedatabase internally
07:50 jase_ Ok
07:50 jase_ i will check it and update you. It will take some time because i have 20GB data file.
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08:36 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed!
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08:47 Joubu @later tell mtj any ideas how we could fix 28666?
08:47 huginn Joubu: The operation succeeded.
08:47 Joubu @later tell mtj properly, I mean :)
08:47 huginn Joubu: The operation succeeded.
08:53 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed!
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08:58 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed!
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09:06 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed!
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09:20 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed!
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09:46 Joubu gmcharlt could we get your opinion on bug 28617?
09:46 huginn Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=28617 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Is misc/ still useful?
09:48 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed!
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09:49 jim_ hello
09:49 jim_ anyone here
09:52 Joubu yes
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11:40 vfernandes hi #koha
11:40 oleonard Hi vfernandes
11:42 vfernandes can someone help with a performance question?
11:43 vfernandes our Koha isn't dealing well with records having hundreds of items
11:44 vfernandes for example getting one of those records via OAI-PMH is extremally slow
11:46 oleonard I don't know how to help but I do know that there are several somewhat similar bugs: https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]ow&list_id=378464
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12:04 Joubu @later tell mtj did you rename Koha_Master_D9_MDB_Latest with Koha_Master_D10_MDB_Latest? It broke the dashboard
12:04 huginn Joubu: The operation succeeded.
12:04 Joubu @later tell mtj Shouldn't we also adjust Koha_Master_D9_My8?
12:04 huginn Joubu: The operation succeeded.
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12:06 Joubu @later tell mtj Koha_Master_D9_My8 is already using buster actually
12:06 huginn Joubu: The operation succeeded.
12:07 Joubu @later tell mtj I will deal with that!
12:07 huginn Joubu: The operation succeeded.
12:15 ashimema dang this export bug can cause some fun with rebases
12:16 Joubu the conflicts should be easy to solve
12:16 ashimema mm.. it's where conflicts aren't caught that is causing fun
12:16 ashimema example.. I wanted to build something atop the MARC Holdings bug
12:17 ashimema but with new modules and things added.. it needs a bunch of cleanup to just make it work again
12:17 ashimema which is understandable
12:17 ashimema but not something I wanted to have to dig into
12:18 Joubu I can help if you want me to
12:18 ashimema its in your queue.. but I know you're super busy with that queue so won't distract you
12:18 ashimema I'll dig through.. I'm sure I'll catch it all
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14:34 reiveune bye
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15:12 jim_ hello anyone here
15:14 oleonard jim_: Instead of asking if anyone is here you can ask your question, and if anyone is around to respond they will
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15:20 jim_ I asked before
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16:22 tuxayo @later tell caroline_catlady hi :) in fr_CA there are suggestions to fix things that give a false positive when releasing: https://translate.koha-communi[…]RL&sfields=source,target&soptions=case
16:22 huginn tuxayo: The operation succeeded.
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19:15 oleonard It seems strange to me that you can mark a checkout note "seen" but it doesn't really have any consequence.
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19:50 oleonard Thinking about checkout notes because Bug 28720
19:50 huginn Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=28720 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Update the process of adding a checkout note in the OPAC
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20:04 gmcharlt Joubu: https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]g.cgi?id=28617#c6
20:04 huginn Bug 28617: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Is misc/ still useful?
20:04 oleonard Hi gmcharlt
20:04 gmcharlt hi oleonard
20:05 oleonard Hey gmcharlt I had a cataloging question the other day I wonder if you might be able to answer
20:05 gmcharlt go for it
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20:06 oleonard In MARC frameworks you can mark a tag as mandatory, which the interface interprets as "at least one subfield must be filled." This seems odd to me because it feels more likely that a specific subfield will be mandatory. Is there a valid use-case for "at least one subfield?"
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20:08 gmcharlt oleonard: yes, but it's not common
20:08 gmcharlt e.g., from the LC documentation, a valid 245 without an $a: 245 00 $kLetter,$f1901 March 6,$bDublin, to Henrik Ibsen, Kristiana [Oslo].
20:09 oleonard Cool, thanks for putting my mind at ease
20:09 gmcharlt well, "uncommon" probably depends on what you collect, I suppose. A library of letters would have few titles, I guess
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22:19 stallings Hello! Simple issue that has been giving me trouble: I'm running 21.05 (package) on Debian with unique domains for OPAC and intranet ( and until recently, both have worked. Now, though, I can only access the staff page by adding the port number (8080) after the url. If I do not, I get "It Works!" I've been all over the koha-sites.conf and library.conf files, but nothing seems to solve it.
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