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22:19 stallings    Hello! Simple issue that has been giving me trouble: I'm running 21.05 (package) on Debian with unique domains for OPAC and intranet (library.library.com and libstaff.library.com) until recently, both have worked. Now, though, I can only access the staff page by adding the port number (8080) after the url. If I do not, I get "It Works!" I've been all over the koha-sites.conf and library.conf files, but nothing seems to solve it.
20:09 gmcharlt     well, "uncommon" probably depends on what you collect, I suppose. A library of letters would have few titles, I guess
20:09 oleonard     Cool, thanks for putting my mind at ease
20:08 gmcharlt     e.g., from the LC documentation, a valid 245 without an $a: 245 00 $kLetter,$f1901 March 6,$bDublin, to Henrik Ibsen, Kristiana [Oslo].
20:08 gmcharlt     oleonard: yes, but it's not common
20:06 oleonard     In MARC frameworks you can mark a tag as mandatory, which the interface interprets as "at least one subfield must be filled." This seems odd to me because it feels more likely that a specific subfield will be mandatory. Is there a valid use-case for "at least one subfield?"
20:05 gmcharlt     go for it
20:05 oleonard     Hey gmcharlt I had a cataloging question the other day I wonder if you might be able to answer
20:04 gmcharlt     hi oleonard
20:04 oleonard     Hi gmcharlt
20:04 huginn       Bug 28617: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Is misc/kohalib.pl still useful?
20:04 gmcharlt     Joubu: https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=28617#c6
19:50 huginn       Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=28720 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Update the process of adding a checkout note in the OPAC
19:50 oleonard     Thinking about checkout notes because Bug 28720
19:15 oleonard     It seems strange to me that you can mark a checkout note "seen" but it doesn't really have any consequence.
16:22 huginn       tuxayo: The operation succeeded.
16:22 tuxayo       @later tell caroline_catlady hi :) in fr_CA there are suggestions to fix things that give a false positive when releasing: https://translate.koha-community.org/fr_CA/translate/#search=PERL&sfields=source,target&soptions=case
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15:20 jim_         I asked before
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15:14 oleonard     jim_: Instead of asking if anyone is here you can ask your question, and if anyone is around to respond they will
15:12 jim_         hello anyone here
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14:34 reiveune     bye
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12:18 ashimema     I'll dig through.. I'm sure I'll catch it all
12:18 ashimema     its in your queue.. but I know you're super busy with that queue so won't distract you
12:18 Joubu        I can help if you want me to
12:17 ashimema     but not something I wanted to have to dig into
12:17 ashimema     which is understandable
12:17 ashimema     but with new modules and things added.. it needs a bunch of cleanup to just make it work again
12:16 ashimema     example.. I wanted to build something atop the MARC Holdings bug
12:16 ashimema     mm.. it's where conflicts aren't caught that is causing fun
12:16 Joubu        the conflicts should be easy to solve
12:15 ashimema     dang this export bug can cause some fun with rebases
12:07 huginn       Joubu: The operation succeeded.
12:07 Joubu        @later tell mtj I will deal with that!
12:06 huginn       Joubu: The operation succeeded.
12:06 Joubu        @later tell mtj Koha_Master_D9_My8 is already using buster actually
12:04 huginn       Joubu: The operation succeeded.
12:04 Joubu        @later tell mtj Shouldn't we also adjust Koha_Master_D9_My8?
12:04 huginn       Joubu: The operation succeeded.
12:04 Joubu        @later tell mtj did you rename Koha_Master_D9_MDB_Latest with Koha_Master_D10_MDB_Latest? It broke the dashboard
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11:46 oleonard     I don't know how to help but I do know that there are several somewhat similar bugs: https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=summary%3Aslow&list_id=378464
11:44 vfernandes   for example getting one of those records via OAI-PMH is extremally slow
11:43 vfernandes   our Koha isn't dealing well with records having hundreds of items
11:42 vfernandes   can someone help with a performance question?
11:40 oleonard     Hi vfernandes
11:40 vfernandes   hi #koha
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09:52 Joubu        yes
09:49 jim_         anyone here
09:49 jim_         hello
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09:48 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed!
09:46 huginn       Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=28617 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Is misc/kohalib.pl still useful?
09:46 Joubu        gmcharlt could we get your opinion on bug 28617?
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09:20 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed!
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09:06 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed!
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08:58 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed!
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08:53 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed!
08:47 huginn       Joubu: The operation succeeded.
08:47 Joubu        @later tell mtj properly, I mean :)
08:47 huginn       Joubu: The operation succeeded.
08:47 Joubu        @later tell mtj any ideas how we could fix 28666?
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08:36 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed!
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07:50 jase_        i will check it and update you. It will take some time because i have 20GB data file.
07:50 jase_        Ok
07:49 ashimema     koha-upgrade-schema calls updatedatabase internally
07:49 ashimema     the later is just the packages way of running it.
07:49 ashimema     no, they do the same
07:49 jase_        after updating updatedatabase.pl, need to run koha-upgrade-schema?
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07:49 huginn       News from kohagit: Bug 17600: Fix tests <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=f5bf73f72262844a840f6d11c96cfde08a8471a8>
07:46 ashimema     beware, for a version this old it will take a long time... we do things like upgrade the schema from utf8 to utf8mb4 and we add indexes and things.. those take time to process.. but in general the data is better for it and it's the easiest route to goal for getting a working system back with all your users, history etc all in tact.
07:44 ashimema     alternatively you could `koha-shell instance1` then run the script directly.. but I don't think there's any benefit to doing it that way round.
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07:42 ashimema     so that command you'll want it
07:42 jase_        Like instance name or?
07:41 jase_        updatedatabase.pl need to sent any parameter while running?
07:41 jase_        i am using debian 10
07:40 jase_        I installed via package.
07:40 ashimema     just reading ti :)
07:40 ashimema     okies, thanks Joubu
07:40 Joubu        ashimema: read the commit message, I've tried to explain a bit
07:40 ashimema     what type of install are you using.. package?
07:40 Joubu        ashimema: manually
07:39 ashimema     then run updatedatabase.pl.. make a cup of tea.. it'll take a while with that many upgrade steps
07:39 jase_        Ok
07:39 ashimema     so restore the dump over the top of your new Koha install
07:39 jase_        I have last weekly dump(.sql) data
07:38 jase_        Can you please expain how to do.
07:38 ashimema     unless you've got loads of customisation at the DB level it 'just works'
07:38 ashimema     it will run from any 3.x version through a series of steps to upgrade your database
07:38 ashimema     that's the point of it
07:37 ashimema     updatedatabase will fix all that for you
07:37 ashimema     it doesn't matter
07:37 jase_        Beacuse i am using old koha 3.14. In new koha database structure is diffrent thats why i am importing
07:36 ashimema     run perlimport?
07:36 ashimema     Joubu, what's the best/simplest way to rebase patches for the EXPORT stuff..
07:35 ashimema     you should dump the database, restore that and run updatedatabase
07:35 ashimema     what Joubu said.. why are you exporting your bibs and importing them into a new system
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07:33 jase_        For examble bulkmarcimport.pl -b -k=999cd -commit=1000 -file=/tmp/biblios.mrc -v -v  which is creating new biblionumber instead of old number in .mrc file.
07:32 ashimema     Koha's upgrade process has been pretty darn smooth for years
07:31 ashimema     why don't you upgrade jase_
07:31 Joubu        Don't you need the patrons, checkouts, etc.?
07:30 jase_        yes i want to import all records into new system with bulkmarc or any tool. should keep biblionumbers with old number.
07:29 Joubu        reinstall from scratch, load the DB dump, execute the DB update
07:28 marcelr      bbiab
07:28 jase_        please share how to do
07:28 Joubu        you do you import the records?
07:28 marcelr      sounds like you should write small script to correct them?
07:27 jase_        unfortunatly when i rebuld a record with bulkmarc which is creating new bilionumber. Have you any idea?
07:25 jase_        I have installed new version 20.05 with elasticsearch working fine. But i have huge data 20GB need to import on new koha with old biblionumbers
07:23 jase_        OK.
07:23 marcelr      3.14 is far too old
07:23 marcelr      we are at koha 21.05 there is only some support for 19.11
07:22 jase_        Starting version for elasticsearch
07:22 marcelr      you should not work with koha 3.14
07:21 jase_        I would like to know koha elasticsearch work on koha version 3.14
07:20 jase_        hello
07:02 alex_a       Bonjour
06:59 huginn       News from kohagit: Bug 17600: Standardize our EXPORT_OK <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=9d6d641d1f8b77271800f43bc027b651f9aea52b>
06:59 huginn       News from kohagit: Bug 28606: Remove warning from C4::Auth 887 <https://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=af7e41d1142573666d302a8475274ea58e5c99f4>
06:09 reiveune     hello
06:08 marcelr      hi #koha
02:47 tuxayo       At least there is a emoticon :D
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00:37 tuxayo       Ok, not for this
00:37 tuxayo       > The parts that currently exist do seem to work reliably
00:37 tuxayo       Some uses of the word experimental are too cautious
00:36 tuxayo       ^^
00:36 tuxayo       > WARNING This module is still experimental.
00:36 tuxayo       https://metacpan.org/pod/Object::Pad