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Congratulations! |
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wahanui |
que tal, fridolin |
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cait1 |
snow snow snow.... |
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magnuse |
snow here too, first time this year we had a "proper" snowfall |
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cait1 |
we never got that much as long as I can think of |
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cait1 |
not in Kontanz to be more specific |
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ashimema |
morning |
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ashimema |
fridolin.. have you tested bug 27299 ? |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=27299 normal, P5 - low, ---, dcook, Signed Off , Zebra phrase register is incorrectly tokenized when using ICU |
09:31 |
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ashimema |
it works really well for us in testing.. I'm hoping to get it through QA |
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fridolin |
ashimema: oh yep its perfect |
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ashimema |
fancy giving it your magic stamp as I SO'd it ;) |
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ashimema |
I'm also looking at bug 11158.. which we've retested on top of the above.. and it works great too! |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11158 normal, P5 - low, ---, colin.campbell, Needs Signoff , Authorities 'starts with' search returns the same as 'contains' when using ICU |
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fridolin |
ashimema: do you whant me to sign also ? |
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ashimema |
but as Colin wrote it.. many moons ago.. I'm unable to SO or QA that one |
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ashimema |
if you fancied it :) |
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ashimema |
ooh.. David re-wrote it.. so I can SO or QA :) |
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ashimema |
so yeah.. if you can varify it works too that would be awesome.. then we can get both in. |
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ashimema |
should mean Zebra and linking work much better :) |
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fridolin |
indeed, we are on this subject actually |
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ashimema |
excellent |
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wahanui |
darn tootin' it is. |
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is really happy to see a bit more love going into Zebra again at the moment.. |
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ashimema |
ES is cool.. but I personally still think there's a fair bit of life left in Zebra |
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der_smon |
hey! |
09:47 |
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der_smon |
got pulled away from my keyboard yesterday and was not able to react: on 19.05 with elastic search, i get duplicates when batch modifying records in the search index |
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meaning i have to reindex to get rid of the duplicate search results |
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ashimema |
kidclamp is probably best to talk to about that.. but he won't be up for a few more hours I'm afraid der_smon |
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der_smon |
ok |
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der_smon |
seems i am somewhat out of sync with kidclamp |
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ashimema |
where are you based der_smon |
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ashimema |
kidclamp is USA |
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der_smon |
germany, and i start working quite early ;) |
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ashimema |
the other one who knows elastic well is ere.. but I haven't seen him around much recently |
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ashimema |
generally, european afternoons are a good time to say hello.. at the point we should have a fair few europeans around as well as a few americans |
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ashimema |
catches the widest group :) |
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der_smon |
thx ;) |
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ashimema |
also.. my brain tends to wake up after a few cups of tea and I become more helpful in the afternoons too ;P |
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Joubu |
der_smon: I am going to ask you the same question as yesterday: in elastic index or in the Koha search result view? |
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der_smon |
in the result view |
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der_smon |
i am currently checking the index itself |
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Joubu |
Are they pointing to the same record (same biblionumber)? |
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Joubu |
(I don't think that's possible...) |
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ashimema |
lol.. you beat me to it on bug 27047.. tnaks Joubu :) |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=27047 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Purchase suggestions can not search |
10:23 |
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Joubu |
It was on my list for 2 months... |
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ashimema |
haha.. |
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ashimema |
it had only just gone on mine.. but was on the 'when i get a five minute break' list.. which isn't often these days |
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ashimema |
I'll test it though :) |
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jsicot |
Hi #koha folks |
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jsicot |
I'm a koha enthusiast, I join this channel to find or share some information about my favorite ils ^^ |
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Joubu |
Welcome jsicot, that's the perfect place for that :) |
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der_smon |
yes, same biblionumber |
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Joubu |
der_smon: which exact version of Koha are you using? |
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der_smon |
19.05.05.000 |
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Joubu |
then detail what you are doing exactly in the batch tool, I will try |
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Joubu |
der_smon: can you try with the latest 19.05.x? |
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jsicot |
Joubu Great :-) |
10:35 |
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Joubu |
v19.05.17 |
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Joubu |
you are missing 12 minor versions |
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der_smon |
i will try |
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Joubu |
there are 700 commits, maybe one is fixing it |
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der_smon |
so my modification rule is "update existing or add new" and basically i check for specific values of 856 z and want to replace them with a different value |
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der_smon |
the duplicate shows up even if the record is not changed |
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der_smon |
(meaning 856 z is no-matching) |
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kidclamp |
https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=25342 |
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huginn |
Bug 25342: major, P5 - low, ---, nick, CLOSED FIXED, Scripts not running under plack can cause duplication of ES records |
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kidclamp |
der_smon: ^^ |
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der_smon |
ah nice |
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Joubu |
Always consider the bug is fixed already, and update :) |
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cait1 |
oh so much talking here to read back |
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waves at der_smon |
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cait1 |
which library? |
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jsicot |
Hi @cait1, Sorry, the question was for me? I'm a systems librarian at Rennes 2 university Library (in France) |
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Joubu |
jsicot, cait, I am pretty sure you met already :) |
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ashimema |
I think cait1 was asking where dr_smon comes from.. as they said they're german earlier in chat :) |
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jsicot |
ah sorry |
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ashimema |
no worries.. |
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ashimema |
always nice to know where people are from.. |
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ashimema |
we've probably met too.. if you've been to marseille hackfest in recent years :) |
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is Martin from PTFS Europe |
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wonders if we should have some guidelines of form validation... bug 27427 has opened a small can of worms for me. |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=27427 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , Update the way form validation errors are displayed |
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jsicot |
yes, I was present at Hackfest perhaps in 2012 or 2013 ? |
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ashimema |
aha.. I may or may not have been at one of those.. haha.. it's long enough ago my brain has faded |
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jsicot |
^^ |
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cait |
oh i meant der_smon - i know i have met jsicot :) |
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jsicot |
:-) |
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cait |
German users here always have me curious :) |
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ashimema |
hehe |
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ashimema |
your not german are you cait? :P |
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der_smon |
huhu cait |
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der_smon |
dainst ;) |
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ashimema |
I've updated bug 18017 to add bug 27299 as a dependancy fridolin |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=18017 major, P5 - low, ---, fridolin.somers, Needs Signoff , Use index_heading and index_match_heading in UNIMARC authorities zebra configuration |
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ashimema |
I think it makes sense |
11:53 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=27299 normal, P5 - low, ---, dcook, Signed Off , Zebra phrase register is incorrectly tokenized when using ICU |
11:53 |
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oleonard-away |
Hi all |
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ashimema |
afraid I can't really test it.. don't know enough about UNIMARC.. but it 'looks right' to me. |
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ashimema |
hi oleonard |
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wahanui |
hi oleopard |
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sees the ElasticSearch license news... :( |
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cait |
der_smon: I had a hunch :) |
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oleonard |
It would be cool if you could click a statistic in Hea and see a breakdown of Koha version numbers. I'm curious, for instance, what version the 103 libraries using LibraryThingForLibraries are on |
13:39 |
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oleonard |
...with the ulterior motive that I want to be able to jettison LTFL support ;) |
13:44 |
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ashimema |
that would indeed be cool |
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ashimema |
that looks like it could be doable actually |
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magnuse |
cookbook-meeting in about 1 hour? |
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* oleonard |
has his apron ready |
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cait |
is it an hour or half an hour? |
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cait |
also with apron ready here :) |
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ashimema |
mmm, foood |
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magnuse |
oh yes, maybe half past? |
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magnuse |
ah, yes, i am mistaken |
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magnuse |
cookbook-meeting in about 21 minutes? |
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cait |
should we change the links on the website? Github Koha Gitweb |
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cait |
I'd like to change the first to: Github (mirror) and we are no longer using gitweb... so maybe Koha Git Repository? |
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cait |
https://koha-community.org/ |
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oleonard |
I agree cait. I would put "Koha Git Repository" above Github too |
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Joubu |
cait: yes, could be "Koha Git Repository" and a link to the "Gitlab mirror" |
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cait |
i think they are alphabetic |
14:13 |
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cait |
but it always bugged e too |
14:13 |
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cait |
it# actually the github mirror |
14:13 |
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cait |
but we could add the one on gitlab too? |
14:13 |
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cait |
i will see how tog et there |
14:14 |
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Joubu |
I was suggesting to replace github with gitlab |
14:14 |
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cait |
do you have th elink on hand maybe? i can do that |
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Joubu |
https://gitlab.com/koha-community/Koha |
14:15 |
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cait |
https://gitlab.com/koha-community |
14:15 |
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cait |
ah ok |
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cait |
should we point to the koha repo or to the level above? |
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Joubu |
for the other one you can directly link to https://git.koha-community.org[…]ha-community/Koha |
14:16 |
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Joubu |
I'd point to the Koha repo dorectly |
14:16 |
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Joubu |
directly |
14:16 |
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cait |
ok |
14:16 |
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cait |
on it |
14:16 |
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cait |
please test |
14:18 |
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Joubu |
no changes |
14:18 |
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cait |
hm |
14:18 |
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cait |
it shows for me |
14:19 |
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Joubu |
"Community Resources |
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Joubu |
" |
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cait |
deleting cache |
14:19 |
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Joubu |
those link? |
14:19 |
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cait |
try again please |
14:19 |
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Joubu |
https://git.koha-community.org/Koha is wrong |
14:19 |
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Joubu |
it's https://git.koha-community.org[…]ha-community/Koha |
14:19 |
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cait |
hm not very handy that one :) |
14:19 |
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cait |
changing |
14:20 |
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Joubu |
it's following the same pattern "koha-community" is the group/namespace |
14:20 |
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Joubu |
and Koha is the project |
14:20 |
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Joubu |
like gitlab |
14:20 |
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cait |
fixed |
14:20 |
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cait |
yeah i can see that, sorry |
14:20 |
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Joubu |
yup! |
14:21 |
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cait |
is vimeo still being used? |
14:21 |
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cait |
kidclamp: do youknow maybe? |
14:21 |
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cait |
https://vimeo.com/channels/kohails |
14:21 |
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cait |
it lists only 5 videos |
14:21 |
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cait |
i am tempted to remove it? |
14:21 |
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cait |
koha 3.2 videos too |
14:22 |
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cait |
last link in the list (in case you wondered what i am talking about) |
14:22 |
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cait |
oleonard: the sequence is alphabetic, i see no option to change it :( |
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oleonard |
At least it's logical in some way |
14:23 |
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cait |
any votes on killing the vimeo oneß |
14:23 |
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cait |
? |
14:23 |
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oleonard |
I would remove it |
14:23 |
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cait |
thx :) |
14:23 |
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cait |
i've set it to private |
14:23 |
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cait |
so if someone wants we could bring it back |
14:24 |
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Joubu |
maybe add the youtube channel? |
14:24 |
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Joubu |
https://www.youtube.com/c/KohaILS |
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cait |
label? |
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wahanui |
label is "Additional attributes and identifiers" |
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cait |
heh wahanui, not in that case |
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cait |
Videos on Youtube ? |
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Joubu |
Youtube channel? |
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cait |
done |
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jsicot |
Twitter account https://twitter.com/kohails maybe ? |
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oleonard |
A link to my SoundCloud? |
14:29 |
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cait |
heh |
14:29 |
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cait |
i will do that |
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cait |
twitter is a good idea, i have added it |
14:30 |
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cait |
just labelled "Twitter" |
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jsicot |
thx |
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cait |
thx for the suggestion ) |
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Joubu |
(best meeting ever is coming, be ready) |
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cait |
are we meeting here? |
14:31 |
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cait |
ok *jitters* |
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caroline_crazycatlady |
yes |
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caroline_crazycatlady |
i'm getting ready |
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magnuse |
\o/ |
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caroline_crazycatlady |
should I create a wiki page to get the minutes and everything? |
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ashimema |
:) |
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cait |
just realized i forgot to check out the wiki page :( |
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Joubu |
caroline_crazycatlady: nope, just the usual # |
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caroline_crazycatlady |
ah ok good |
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caroline_crazycatlady |
#startmeeting Cookbook Working Group |
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huginn |
Meeting started Fri Jan 15 14:33:55 2021 UTC. The chair is caroline_crazycatlady. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. |
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huginn |
Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. |
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Topic for #koha is now (Meeting topic: Cookbook Working Group) |
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huginn |
The meeting name has been set to 'cookbook_working_group' |
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caroline_crazycatlady |
#topic Introductions |
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Topic for #koha is now Introductions (Meeting topic: Cookbook Working Group) |
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caroline_crazycatlady |
use #info for intorductions |
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oleonard |
#info Owen Leonard, Athens County Public Libraries, Ohio, USA |
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caroline_crazycatlady |
#info Caroline Cyr La Rose, inLibro, Quebec, Canada |
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magnuse |
#info Magnus Enger, Libriotech, Norway |
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cait |
#info Katrin Fischer, Germany |
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magnuse |
(probably doing this on my own time, though) |
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ashimema |
#info Martin Renvoize, UK |
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ashimema |
me too.. |
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cait |
same |
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oleonard |
Yes, won't someone please think of the shareholders! |
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caroline_crazycatlady |
lol! |
14:36 |
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Joubu |
#info Jonathan Druart |
14:37 |
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caroline_crazycatlady |
Ok, I didn't really prepare an agenda, but I thought of some things -- format, asking for contributions, measurements (:P) |
14:37 |
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magnuse |
international globetrotter ;-) |
14:37 |
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magnuse |
https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]Koha_cookbook_RFC |
14:38 |
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magnuse |
format can be both input and output, i guess |
14:38 |
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caroline_crazycatlady |
We can start with the format |
14:38 |
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caroline_crazycatlady |
on the RFC, it says PDF and or epub |
14:38 |
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cait |
i think an html version could be nice too |
14:38 |
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caroline_crazycatlady |
how do we add contributions? |
14:39 |
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caroline_crazycatlady |
I'll edit the wiki page as we discuss |
14:39 |
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magnuse |
i am thinkgin a git repo that can maybe accept pull requests, but at least the working group members should be able to add commits |
14:39 |
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caroline_crazycatlady |
epub might be a bit big |
14:40 |
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magnuse |
big? |
14:40 |
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caroline_crazycatlady |
to host |
14:40 |
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cait |
caroline_crazycatlady: it#s easy if we use the same tools we have for the manual |
14:40 |
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magnuse |
i had not thought of the tools for the manual, but that does sound like a good idea |
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ashimema |
epub is not bad.. it was the translations that made things big in the manual |
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* ashimema |
was wrong to blame epub |
14:41 |
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caroline_crazycatlady |
so we want to use Restructured text for formatting and sphinx for output? |
14:41 |
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cait |
it's an option that would make it quite easy to generate theother things... |
14:41 |
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caroline_crazycatlady |
ok, good to know |
14:41 |
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cait |
but there might be other options too |
14:41 |
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caroline_crazycatlady |
but we still have to find somewhere to host it |
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Joubu |
what do you need to host? |
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cait |
we could put it on gitlab maybe? or the gitea |
14:42 |
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Joubu |
only the output? |
14:42 |
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magnuse |
gitea = https://git.koha-community.org/ ? |
14:42 |
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cait |
yes |
14:42 |
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caroline_crazycatlady |
I think so, since the input will be on gitlab |
14:42 |
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magnuse |
don't we need to host the source too? |
14:42 |
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caroline_crazycatlady |
or gitea |
14:42 |
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magnuse |
ah |
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Joubu |
I'd consider it the same as other side-projects, use gitlab and its workflow |
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magnuse |
sounds good to me |
14:43 |
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Joubu |
I think we can rely on gitlab to host the output as well. If too big I can host the pdf/epub |
14:43 |
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caroline_crazycatlady |
ok |
14:43 |
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* oleonard |
wonders if we need a recipe copyright expert's advice |
14:43 |
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cait |
+1 |
14:44 |
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magnuse |
yeah, we have plenty of space/bandwith too |
14:44 |
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caroline_crazycatlady |
#agreed use gitlab and its workflow |
14:44 |
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caroline_crazycatlady |
#agreed host the output on gitlab as well |
14:45 |
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caroline_crazycatlady |
there was also a print-on-demand option |
14:45 |
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caroline_crazycatlady |
in the wiki |
14:45 |
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cait |
i like the information/layout the wiki suggests, can we make this work with docbook in a structured way? |
14:45 |
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caroline_crazycatlady |
https://www.blurb.com/bookstore |
14:45 |
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magnuse |
yeah, i want a physical book :-) |
14:45 |
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caroline_crazycatlady |
same! |
14:45 |
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cait |
:) |
14:45 |
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cait |
sorry, we ar not using docbook... sphinx... thing |
14:46 |
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cait |
might be good to create a template one can follow |
14:46 |
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magnuse |
i yup |
14:46 |
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magnuse |
awesome if people familiar with the manual could suggest a temaplte |
14:47 |
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magnuse |
but should we say all submissions must use the template? or accept anything and convert to the template ourselves? |
14:47 |
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cait |
i am not sure we have many super familiar with the technical bits and ther might be things we don't really use yet? |
14:47 |
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cait |
i think we shoudl accept submissions outside of gitlab too |
14:47 |
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oleonard |
Agreed |
14:47 |
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caroline_crazycatlady |
yes bc not everyone is confortable with git |
14:47 |
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cait |
i'd be willing to help reformat, once we know how we do it |
14:48 |
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cait |
can you make that an agreed plz? |
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Joubu |
we could have a template wiki page |
14:48 |
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magnuse |
keep it simple s**** ;-) |
14:48 |
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cait |
even the wiki is a bit of a hurdle |
14:48 |
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caroline_crazycatlady |
#agreed we accept contributions outside of gitlab |
14:48 |
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cait |
maybe also have an email acceptance? |
14:48 |
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magnuse |
but how? set up an email somewhere? |
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cait |
hm list is bad because it eats the attachements |
14:49 |
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caroline_crazycatlady |
kohacookbookgmail? |
14:49 |
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cait |
gmail??? |
14:49 |
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cait |
sorry :) |
14:49 |
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magnuse |
i think gmail or similar makes sense |
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cait |
paranoid German |
14:49 |
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caroline_crazycatlady |
I don't really know other ones, sorry! |
14:49 |
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magnuse |
hehe |
14:50 |
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cait |
Joubu: you have a kc address... is that an option in general? |
14:50 |
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Joubu |
we can use it, yes |
14:50 |
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Joubu |
ha |
14:51 |
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Joubu |
sorry, you mean the bugs.k-c.org address? |
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Joubu |
it's not k-c.org |
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Joubu |
not sure it makes sense to have bugs.k-c.org |
14:51 |
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cait |
ah ok, yep no then |
14:51 |
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caroline_crazycatlady |
cookbookk-c.org? |
14:51 |
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Joubu |
no |
14:51 |
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caroline_crazycatlady |
ok |
14:51 |
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Joubu |
not possible |
14:51 |
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Joubu |
(there is no mail server) |
14:51 |
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magnuse |
cait: what are you actually paranoid about? it's not for sensitive info? :-) |
14:52 |
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Joubu |
use koha_cookbookprotonmail.com |
14:52 |
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Joubu |
and we will create it |
14:52 |
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cait |
magnuse: it reads emails for advertising... i think that's creepy? |
14:52 |
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cait |
but offtopic here :) |
14:53 |
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cait |
no idea waht protonmail is, but Joubu is usually right |
14:53 |
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caroline_crazycatlady |
so cookbookprotonmail.com is good? |
14:53 |
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Joubu |
koha is missing :) |
14:53 |
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caroline_crazycatlady |
#agreed use kohacookbookprotonmail.com to send recipes to the editors |
14:54 |
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cait |
i like it all in one word |
14:54 |
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magnuse |
is that webmail where we can log in and work in the queue? or would it just pass email along to everyone in the committe? |
14:56 |
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caroline_crazycatlady |
#action caroline will create a template using restructuredtext for the contributions |
14:56 |
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magnuse |
it would be practical if we had one webmail to log into where we could see which submissions had already been handled |
14:57 |
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caroline_crazycatlady |
Joubu or ashimema : can you set up the git repository and the sphinx part? |
14:57 |
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Joubu |
yes, action us |
14:57 |
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caroline_crazycatlady |
#Joubu or ashimema will set up the git repository and the sphinx part |
14:58 |
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caroline_crazycatlady |
#Joubu will create the email address kohacookbookprotonmail.com |
14:58 |
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caroline_crazycatlady |
#action Joubu will create the email address kohacookbookprotonmail.com |
14:59 |
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ashimema |
:) |
14:59 |
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Joubu |
(I've create koha_cookbook already and sent you the credentials) |
14:59 |
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Joubu |
can recreate without _ if needed |
14:59 |
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Joubu |
create*d* |
14:59 |
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caroline_crazycatlady |
can you set it up so that we can access it via web and/or set it up so that it sends us all emails? |
14:59 |
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caroline_crazycatlady |
oops, sorry, I didn't see! |
15:00 |
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caroline_crazycatlady |
do we prefer koha_cookbook or kohacookbook? |
15:00 |
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caroline_crazycatlady |
I don't have a preference |
15:00 |
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magnuse |
me neither |
15:00 |
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Joubu |
I prefer with _ |
15:00 |
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Joubu |
:D |
15:00 |
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cait |
not a strong one |
15:00 |
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caroline_crazycatlady |
ok so lets keep it that way |
15:01 |
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caroline_crazycatlady |
#info email is koha_cookbookprotonmail.com |
15:01 |
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magnuse |
(off topic: who can add 2021 on https://meetings.koha-community.org/ ?) |
15:01 |
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caroline_crazycatlady |
I'll do it |
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caroline_crazycatlady |
I was already in there |
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Joubu |
(magnuse: I've asked gmcharlt already) |
15:01 |
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cait |
gmcharlt |
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wahanui |
i think gmcharlt is usually lurking much earlier.. hense ashimema's pointing him out |
15:01 |
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magnuse |
(cool!) |
15:02 |
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caroline_crazycatlady |
ok if it's something complicated i'll l et them deal with it lol! |
15:02 |
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cait |
i think you probably need to change the html template, not complicated but requires access |
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caroline_crazycatlady |
2020 stopped in June so I though it was a manual thing |
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caroline_crazycatlady |
ok back to cookbook |
15:03 |
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* oleonard |
wishes 2020 had stopped in June |
15:03 |
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magnuse |
lulz |
15:04 |
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cait |
more .. February |
15:04 |
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cait |
do we agree on the general information to collect as stated on the wiki? |
15:04 |
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cait |
the layout section? |
15:04 |
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caroline_crazycatlady |
does anyone have comments on the elements of the contribution (name of dish, short description, estc |
15:04 |
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caroline_crazycatlady |
https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]RFC#Contributions |
15:05 |
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magnuse |
i was thinking, if we accept more than one receipe per person, it might make sense to collect the info about the people in one place |
15:05 |
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caroline_crazycatlady |
we had already discussed we wanted measurements in metric, so g for weight and ml for volume? |
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magnuse |
and link bwtween them |
15:05 |
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oleonard |
For completeness I would add "List of ingredients" to that list above "how to make the dish" |
15:05 |
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cait |
i thin it's there |
15:05 |
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cait |
The receipe List of ingredients and quantities |
15:05 |
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caroline_crazycatlady |
yes under "The recipe" |
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cait |
ah it's in contributions |
15:06 |
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cait |
but missing in layout |
15:06 |
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caroline_crazycatlady |
Do we want more than one contribution per person or just one? |
15:06 |
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oleonard |
Right |
15:06 |
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cait |
hm i think it depends on how many we get |
15:06 |
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cait |
maybe? |
15:06 |
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caroline_crazycatlady |
Ok I added it to the "Layout part" |
15:07 |
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magnuse |
yeah, hard to tell if we will get lots of people contributing or not |
15:08 |
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caroline_crazycatlady |
circling back to oleonard's copyright comment we have to specify to people that this has to be an original recipe, or at least sufficiently modified from an existing one |
15:08 |
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magnuse |
yup |
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cait |
are recipes (simple ones) copyrighted? |
15:08 |
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cait |
a lot of cake recipes are very basic |
15:08 |
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caroline_crazycatlady |
if they are published, yes |
15:09 |
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cait |
waht about things like "pancake batter" |
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oleonard |
The US perspective: https://www.copyright.gov/help[…]otect.html#recipe |
15:09 |
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cait |
i mean a local recipe might be so general, it's hard to tell |
15:09 |
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cait |
something that is very common in a country |
15:09 |
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cait |
A mere listing of ingredients is not protected under copyright law. < |
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cait |
ok, so you have to make sure to write your own text? |
15:10 |
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caroline_crazycatlady |
If it's common, I wouldn't be worried about it |
15:10 |
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cait |
#link https://www.copyright.gov/help[…]otect.html#recipe |
15:11 |
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cait |
any suggestions on wording? |
15:11 |
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caroline_crazycatlady |
#agreed specify to people that this has to be an original recipe, or at least sufficiently modified from an existing one |
15:11 |
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cait |
+1 |
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* ashimema |
requests a beer recipe or two from Joubu ;) |
15:12 |
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caroline_crazycatlady |
Oh yeah, that makes me think, do we wait for contributions to see how we want to organized them? |
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oleonard |
I think that makes sense |
15:12 |
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cait |
ah categories |
15:12 |
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magnuse |
me too |
15:12 |
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cait |
i think that makes snse too |
15:12 |
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caroline_crazycatlady |
meaning in chapters, like desserts (first of course), main courses, drinks, etc |
15:12 |
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cait |
but we could state that all is good? cocktails to desserts? :) |
15:12 |
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cait |
and beer |
15:12 |
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magnuse |
sure |
15:13 |
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caroline_crazycatlady |
#agreed contributions of all sorts of recipes are welcome |
15:13 |
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cait |
do we really need to ahve beer? *hides* |
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15:14 |
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magnuse |
a separate book for beer receipies? ;-) |
15:14 |
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cait |
maybe somethign for another volume |
15:14 |
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magnuse |
i wouldn't mind a few |
15:14 |
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oleonard |
cait no one will make you try the recipe |
15:14 |
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magnuse |
hehe |
15:14 |
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marie-luce |
favourite beer from different country |
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cait |
was just joking :) |
15:15 |
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ashimema |
hehe |
15:15 |
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marie-luce |
me too :) |
15:15 |
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marie-luce |
really exciting your project |
15:16 |
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caroline_crazycatlady |
The final point in the RFC is license |
15:16 |
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magnuse |
related to the question of copyrught is the license of the compilation we are making |
15:16 |
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magnuse |
jinx! ;-) |
15:16 |
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cait |
just got a cake delivery, back in a moment |
15:16 |
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magnuse |
:-O |
15:16 |
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oleonard |
:D |
15:17 |
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oleonard |
Hey you're not allowed to interrupt food meetings for food!! |
15:17 |
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magnuse |
i think it should be as open as possible, allow for remixing etc |
15:17 |
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caroline_crazycatlady |
CC0? CC BY? |
15:17 |
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caroline_crazycatlady |
https://creativecommons.org/about/cclicenses/ |
15:18 |
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caroline_crazycatlady |
Non-commercial? |
15:19 |
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caroline_crazycatlady |
Since we are an open-source community, I would go with CC0 |
15:19 |
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oleonard |
I would be fine with CC0 |
15:19 |
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magnuse |
tricky |
15:19 |
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magnuse |
CC0 is public domain? |
15:19 |
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caroline_crazycatlady |
yes |
15:20 |
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magnuse |
i'm fine with that |
15:20 |
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caroline_crazycatlady |
anyone has an objection to CC0? |
15:20 |
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caroline_crazycatlady |
#agreed license will be CC0 |
15:21 |
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magnuse |
cool! |
15:21 |
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caroline_crazycatlady |
#link https://creativecommons.org/pu[…]cdomain/zero/1.0/ |
15:21 |
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caroline_crazycatlady |
oops |
15:21 |
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caroline_crazycatlady |
#link https://creativecommons.org/pu[…]cdomain/zero/1.0/ |
15:21 |
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magnuse |
CC0 x2 = CC0 |
15:21 |
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caroline_crazycatlady |
(I shake a lot) |
15:22 |
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caroline_crazycatlady |
(It's a wonder I can actually knit) |
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caroline_crazycatlady |
Ok so, to summarize |
15:23 |
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caroline_crazycatlady |
We will send a request for contributions |
15:23 |
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caroline_crazycatlady |
specifying the format, elements needed, copyright and licese information |
15:24 |
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caroline_crazycatlady |
Gitlab will be set up |
15:24 |
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caroline_crazycatlady |
and I think that's all we have to do until next mmeting |
15:24 |
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caroline_crazycatlady |
am i forgetting something? |
15:24 |
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magnuse |
setting up the template? |
15:24 |
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Joubu |
even the picture of the contributosr? |
15:25 |
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caroline_crazycatlady |
good point |
15:25 |
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magnuse |
do we want pics of contributors? |
15:25 |
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Joubu |
yes it's the list |
15:26 |
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caroline_crazycatlady |
https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]RFC#Contributions |
15:26 |
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oleonard |
I don't think we need it, personally |
15:26 |
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Joubu |
yes it's *in* the list |
15:26 |
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caroline_crazycatlady |
Me either |
15:26 |
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* caroline_crazycatlady |
doesn't like having her picture taken |
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caroline_crazycatlady |
anyone have strong feeling regarding pictures? |
15:27 |
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magnuse |
i put it in the list, but i'm fine with leaving it out |
15:28 |
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caroline_crazycatlady |
Can we put exceptions in a license? |
15:28 |
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magnuse |
best not to? |
15:28 |
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caroline_crazycatlady |
ok so we leave pictures of people out |
15:29 |
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caroline_crazycatlady |
but we want pictures of the dish |
15:29 |
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caroline_crazycatlady |
Next meeting? |
15:29 |
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wahanui |
i guess Next meeting is https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]Next_IRC_meetings |
15:29 |
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magnuse |
i want to see pics, yes. but they could be optional? |
15:30 |
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magnuse |
did we decide on more than one receipe per contributor? |
15:30 |
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oleonard |
We postponed the decision |
15:30 |
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caroline_crazycatlady |
No, we decided to wait and see what we receive |
15:31 |
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magnuse |
ok, so if we get a flood we can say "one per person"? |
15:31 |
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magnuse |
sounds good to me |
15:31 |
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caroline_crazycatlady |
Do we give it two months? |
15:32 |
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caroline_crazycatlady |
Or is that too long? |
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magnuse |
as the deadline for submissions? |
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caroline_crazycatlady |
I was thinking next meeting |
15:32 |
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caroline_crazycatlady |
but good point |
15:32 |
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magnuse |
ah, sorry, ok |
15:33 |
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caroline_crazycatlady |
I think we can have a deadline later that that |
15:33 |
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caroline_crazycatlady |
give time for people to find, test, wirte and take a picture of their recipe |
15:33 |
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magnuse |
sure |
15:34 |
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caroline_crazycatlady |
So Friday march 12 same time for next meeting? |
15:35 |
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magnuse |
works for me |
15:35 |
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oleonard |
+1 |
15:35 |
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caroline_crazycatlady |
#info Next meeting: 12 March 2021, 14:30 UTC |
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caroline_crazycatlady |
#endmeeting |
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huginn |
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huginn |
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huginn |
Log: https://meetings.koha-communit[…]15-14.33.log.html |
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cait |
sorry, the cake was real |
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* caroline_crazycatlady |
goes to see wat are her action points again... |
15:36 |
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magnuse |
awesome meeting folks, this is gonna be so cool! |
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oleonard |
cait: Real cake is my favorite |
15:36 |
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caroline_crazycatlady |
XD |
15:37 |
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oleonard |
I can't wait to submit my recipe for Marseille Cheese Lunch (1. Buy all the cheese 2. Eat all the cheese) |
15:37 |
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magnuse |
+1 |
15:37 |
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magnuse |
and pictures |
15:37 |
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wahanui |
pictures are gooood |
15:38 |
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magnuse |
have fun #koha! |
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caroline_crazycatlady |
I'll try to have a couple from our team... we have a very diverse team so it would be interesting |
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oleonard |
And we can simply steal all these https://bywatersolutions.com/n[…]ay-cookie-recipes |
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cait |
heh :) |
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cait |
yep a coworker dropped by to bring me cake... :) |
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caroline_crazycatlady |
nice! |
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* cait |
got the best coworkers |
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ashimema |
did you see my PM oleonard? |
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oleonard |
Yes |
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oleonard |
I often think I'd like to contribute to hea and then I remember I have so much to do as it is |
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ashimema |
any thoughts? |
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ashimema |
haha |
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ashimema |
I've added some graphs back in.. still not pretty |
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ashimema |
but a start |
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ashimema |
the code is a bit .. challenging.. to work with |
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oleonard |
My thought was to provide a kind of "detail view" for a particular preference, so you could click through from the main list and see a breakdown by Koha version and setting |
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ashimema |
indeed |
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ashimema |
I was spitballing |
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oleonard |
Now that I think about it I think the installation process was a blocker for testing... |
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Joubu |
it's dancer and the DB structure is in the repo |
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Joubu |
install process shouldn't be a blocker |
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ashimema |
I've pushed my proof of concept up and submitted a work in progress merge request |
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ashimema |
what is hea_ws? |
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Joubu |
the webservice |
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ashimema |
I only needed hea_app |
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Joubu |
yes |
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* oleonard |
should take another crack at it |
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Joubu |
hea_ws is the service called by the Koha install to upload their data |
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ashimema |
ah.. of course |
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ashimema |
my quick hack: http://mrdev-zebra-staff.koha-[…]erence_by_version |
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ashimema |
my d3 isn't very good... I'm thinking stacked bard would be nice |
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ashimema |
bars.. even |
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ashimema |
biblibre host hea still don't they? |
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liliputech_asu |
according to the dns , yes it is |
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liliputech_asu |
hea.koha-community.org.3599INCNAMEbs-acces.biblibre.com. |
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reiveune |
bye |
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cait |
khall_: around maybe? |
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cait |
or kidclamp? |
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wahanui |
rumour has it kidclamp is reply i guess kidclamp is the first RM not to be bribed |
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cait |
or both? :) |
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cait |
or anyone else interested/knowing about course reserves? |
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cait |
oleonard: are you using course reserves in some way? |
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cait |
caroline_crazycatlady: ? :) |
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caroline_crazycatlady |
some, what is the question? |
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oleonard |
cait no |
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oleonard |
I've only tested it |
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cait |
we are sponsoring a new feature |
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cait |
bug 14237 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=14237 enhancement, P2, ---, hayleymapley, In Discussion , Allow bibs to be added to course without items |
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cait |
because our electronic resources usually have no items... but people want to put them in course reserves |
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caroline_crazycatlady |
for online ressources? |
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caroline_crazycatlady |
makes sense |
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cait |
yep |
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cait |
the question is how to do it in the database |
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cait |
we could add a biblionumber column to course_items... or create a new table |
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cait |
at the moment i lean a bit towards the latter, i think you'd only need the course Id and the bilbionumber... and all the rest of course_items would remain unused/empty... also the name doesn't fit then |
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cait |
but not sure if that woudl be the best way to do it |
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caroline_crazycatlady |
I was leaning towards the first, but I'm not a DB architect, so I'm not the best person to ask |
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caroline_crazycatlady |
I don't necessarily want tables with a gazillion columns |
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oleonard |
Compare it to holds, where the reserve table has biblionumber and itemnumber, right? But only a hold with an itemnumber is an item-level hold. |
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oleonard |
Could it be similar for course reserves? |
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cait |
true |
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cait |
but the other holds columns are used for both |
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cait |
http://schema.koha-community.o[…]course_items.html |
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cait |
Joubu: maybe you know about the consequences more? |
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caroline_crazycatlady |
true |
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caroline_crazycatlady |
nothing else would be filled |
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cait |
timestamp |
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cait |
heh :) |
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cait |
hm but we have no clear vote yet, right? |
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caroline_crazycatlady |
no |
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cait |
thx for looking into this with me |
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caroline_crazycatlady |
sorry I couldn't really help |
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cait |
it's ok, i am stuck on this too |
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cait |
that's why we put it on bugzilla |
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ashimema |
I can think about it over the weekend cait |
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ashimema |
Right now.. a beer is calling |
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lukeG1 |
Enjoy ashimema! |
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ashimema |
:-) |
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ashimema |
Ooh, ooh... Thanks for the signoff lukeG1 |
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cait |
ashimema: have a nice weekend :) |
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cait |
I'll be semi-around on monday - another presentation to prepare... |
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ashimema |
Enjoy the weekend #koha friends |
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oleonard-away |
Martin Luther King Jr. Holiday for Americans on Monday |
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cait |
enjoy yor holiday! |
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