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Thanks for the signoff lukeG1 17:00 ashimema :-) 16:59 lukeG1 Enjoy ashimema! 16:58 ashimema Right now.. a beer is calling 16:58 ashimema I can think about it over the weekend cait 16:33 cait that's why we put it on bugzilla 16:33 cait it's ok, i am stuck on this too 16:33 caroline_crazycatlady sorry I couldn't really help 16:32 cait thx for looking into this with me 16:31 caroline_crazycatlady no 16:31 cait hm but we have no clear vote yet, right? 16:29 cait heh :) 16:29 cait timestamp 16:28 caroline_crazycatlady nothing else would be filled 16:28 caroline_crazycatlady true 16:27 cait Joubu: maybe you know about the consequences more? 16:27 cait http://schema.koha-community.org/20_11/tables/course_items.html 16:27 cait but the other holds columns are used for both 16:27 cait true 16:27 oleonard Could it be similar for course reserves? 16:27 oleonard Compare it to holds, where the reserve table has biblionumber and itemnumber, right? But only a hold with an itemnumber is an item-level hold. 16:26 caroline_crazycatlady I don't necessarily want tables with a gazillion columns 16:26 caroline_crazycatlady I was leaning towards the first, but I'm not a DB architect, so I'm not the best person to ask 16:25 cait but not sure if that woudl be the best way to do it 16:25 cait at the moment i lean a bit towards the latter, i think you'd only need the course Id and the bilbionumber... and all the rest of course_items would remain unused/empty... also the name doesn't fit then 16:24 cait we could add a biblionumber column to course_items... or create a new table 16:24 cait the question is how to do it in the database 16:24 cait yep 16:24 caroline_crazycatlady makes sense 16:24 caroline_crazycatlady for online ressources? 16:23 cait because our electronic resources usually have no items... but people want to put them in course reserves 16:23 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14237 enhancement, P2, ---, hayleymapley, In Discussion , Allow bibs to be added to course without items 16:23 cait bug 14237 16:23 cait we are sponsoring a new feature 16:23 oleonard I've only tested it 16:22 oleonard cait no 16:22 caroline_crazycatlady some, what is the question? 16:22 cait caroline_crazycatlady: ? :) 16:22 cait oleonard: are you using course reserves in some way? 16:22 cait or anyone else interested/knowing about course reserves? 16:21 cait or both? :) 16:21 wahanui rumour has it kidclamp is reply i guess kidclamp is the first RM not to be bribed 16:21 cait or kidclamp? 16:21 cait khall_: around maybe? 16:06 reiveune bye 16:03 liliputech_asu hea.koha-community.org. 3599 IN CNAME bs-acces.biblibre.com. 16:03 liliputech_asu according to the dns , yes it is 15:57 ashimema biblibre host hea still don't they? 15:53 ashimema bars.. even 15:53 ashimema my d3 isn't very good... I'm thinking stacked bard would be nice 15:53 ashimema my quick hack: http://mrdev-zebra-staff.koha-ptfs.co.uk:3000/systempreference_by_version 15:52 ashimema ah.. of course 15:52 Joubu hea_ws is the service called by the Koha install to upload their data 15:52 * oleonard should take another crack at it 15:52 Joubu yes 15:52 ashimema I only needed hea_app 15:52 Joubu the webservice 15:52 ashimema what is hea_ws? 15:51 ashimema I've pushed my proof of concept up and submitted a work in progress merge request 15:50 Joubu install process shouldn't be a blocker 15:50 Joubu it's dancer and the DB structure is in the repo 15:49 oleonard Now that I think about it I think the installation process was a blocker for testing... 15:48 ashimema I was spitballing 15:48 ashimema indeed 15:45 oleonard My thought was to provide a kind of "detail view" for a particular preference, so you could click through from the main list and see a breakdown by Koha version and setting 15:44 ashimema the code is a bit .. challenging.. to work with 15:44 ashimema but a start 15:44 ashimema I've added some graphs back in.. still not pretty 15:44 ashimema haha 15:44 ashimema any thoughts? 15:44 oleonard I often think I'd like to contribute to hea and then I remember I have so much to do as it is 15:43 oleonard Yes 15:43 ashimema did you see my PM oleonard? 15:41 * cait got the best coworkers 15:39 caroline_crazycatlady nice! 15:39 cait yep a coworker dropped by to bring me cake... :) 15:39 cait heh :) 15:38 oleonard And we can simply steal all these https://bywatersolutions.com/news/2020-bywater-staff-holiday-cookie-recipes 15:38 caroline_crazycatlady I'll try to have a couple from our team... we have a very diverse team so it would be interesting 15:38 magnuse have fun #koha! 15:37 wahanui pictures are gooood 15:37 magnuse and pictures 15:37 magnuse +1 15:37 oleonard I can't wait to submit my recipe for Marseille Cheese Lunch (1. Buy all the cheese 2. Eat all the cheese) 15:36 caroline_crazycatlady XD 15:36 oleonard cait: Real cake is my favorite 15:36 magnuse awesome meeting folks, this is gonna be so cool! 15:35 * caroline_crazycatlady goes to see wat are her action points again... 15:35 cait sorry, the cake was real 15:35 huginn Log: https://meetings.koha-community.org/2021/cookbook_working_group.2021-01-15-14.33.log.html 15:35 huginn Minutes (text): https://meetings.koha-community.org/2021/cookbook_working_group.2021-01-15-14.33.txt 15:35 huginn Minutes: https://meetings.koha-community.org/2021/cookbook_working_group.2021-01-15-14.33.html 15:35 huginn Meeting ended Fri Jan 15 15:35:38 2021 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) 15:35 caroline_crazycatlady #endmeeting 15:35 caroline_crazycatlady #info Next meeting: 12 March 2021, 14:30 UTC 15:35 oleonard +1 15:35 magnuse works for me 15:34 caroline_crazycatlady So Friday march 12 same time for next meeting? 15:33 magnuse sure 15:33 caroline_crazycatlady give time for people to find, test, wirte and take a picture of their recipe 15:33 caroline_crazycatlady I think we can have a deadline later that that 15:32 magnuse ah, sorry, ok 15:32 caroline_crazycatlady but good point 15:32 caroline_crazycatlady I was thinking next meeting 15:32 magnuse as the deadline for submissions? 15:32 caroline_crazycatlady Or is that too long? 15:31 caroline_crazycatlady Do we give it two months? 15:31 magnuse sounds good to me 15:31 magnuse ok, so if we get a flood we can say "one per person"? 15:30 caroline_crazycatlady No, we decided to wait and see what we receive 15:30 oleonard We postponed the decision 15:30 magnuse did we decide on more than one receipe per contributor? 15:29 magnuse i want to see pics, yes. but they could be optional? 15:29 wahanui i guess Next meeting is https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Next_IRC_meetings 15:29 caroline_crazycatlady Next meeting? 15:29 caroline_crazycatlady but we want pictures of the dish 15:28 caroline_crazycatlady ok so we leave pictures of people out 15:28 magnuse best not to? 15:28 caroline_crazycatlady Can we put exceptions in a license? 15:27 magnuse i put it in the list, but i'm fine with leaving it out 15:27 caroline_crazycatlady anyone have strong feeling regarding pictures? 15:26 * caroline_crazycatlady doesn't like having her picture taken 15:26 caroline_crazycatlady Me either 15:26 Joubu yes it's *in* the list 15:26 oleonard I don't think we need it, personally 15:26 caroline_crazycatlady https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_cookbook_RFC#Contributions 15:25 Joubu yes it's the list 15:25 magnuse do we want pics of contributors? 15:25 caroline_crazycatlady good point 15:24 Joubu even the picture of the contributosr? 15:24 magnuse setting up the template? 15:24 caroline_crazycatlady am i forgetting something? 15:24 caroline_crazycatlady and I think that's all we have to do until next mmeting 15:24 caroline_crazycatlady Gitlab will be set up 15:23 caroline_crazycatlady specifying the format, elements needed, copyright and licese information 15:23 caroline_crazycatlady We will send a request for contributions 15:22 caroline_crazycatlady Ok so, to summarize 15:22 caroline_crazycatlady (It's a wonder I can actually knit) 15:21 caroline_crazycatlady (I shake a lot) 15:21 magnuse CC0 x2 = CC0 15:21 caroline_crazycatlady #link https://creativecommons.org/publicdomain/zero/1.0/ 15:21 caroline_crazycatlady oops 15:21 caroline_crazycatlady #link https://creativecommons.org/publicdomain/zero/1.0/https://creativecommons.org/publicdomain/zero/1.0/ 15:21 magnuse cool! 15:20 caroline_crazycatlady #agreed license will be CC0 15:20 caroline_crazycatlady anyone has an objection to CC0? 15:20 magnuse i'm fine with that 15:19 caroline_crazycatlady yes 15:19 magnuse CC0 is public domain? 15:19 magnuse tricky 15:19 oleonard I would be fine with CC0 15:19 caroline_crazycatlady Since we are an open-source community, I would go with CC0 15:18 caroline_crazycatlady Non-commercial? 15:17 caroline_crazycatlady https://creativecommons.org/about/cclicenses/ 15:17 caroline_crazycatlady CC0? CC BY? 15:17 magnuse i think it should be as open as possible, allow for remixing etc 15:17 oleonard Hey you're not allowed to interrupt food meetings for food!! 15:16 oleonard :D 15:16 magnuse :-O 15:16 cait just got a cake delivery, back in a moment 15:16 magnuse jinx! ;-) 15:16 magnuse related to the question of copyrught is the license of the compilation we are making 15:16 caroline_crazycatlady The final point in the RFC is license 15:15 marie-luce really exciting your project 15:15 marie-luce me too :) 15:15 ashimema hehe 15:15 cait was just joking :) 15:14 marie-luce favourite beer from different country 15:14 magnuse hehe 15:14 oleonard cait no one will make you try the recipe 15:14 magnuse i wouldn't mind a few 15:14 cait maybe somethign for another volume 15:14 magnuse a separate book for beer receipies? ;-) 15:13 cait do we really need to ahve beer? *hides* 15:13 caroline_crazycatlady #agreed contributions of all sorts of recipes are welcome 15:12 magnuse sure 15:12 cait and beer 15:12 cait but we could state that all is good? cocktails to desserts? :) 15:12 caroline_crazycatlady meaning in chapters, like desserts (first of course), main courses, drinks, etc 15:12 cait i think that makes snse too 15:12 magnuse me too 15:12 cait ah categories 15:12 oleonard I think that makes sense 15:12 caroline_crazycatlady Oh yeah, that makes me think, do we wait for contributions to see how we want to organized them? 15:11 * ashimema requests a beer recipe or two from Joubu ;) 15:11 cait +1 15:11 caroline_crazycatlady #agreed specify to people that this has to be an original recipe, or at least sufficiently modified from an existing one 15:11 cait any suggestions on wording? 15:10 cait #link https://www.copyright.gov/help/faq/faq-protect.html#recipe 15:10 caroline_crazycatlady If it's common, I wouldn't be worried about it 15:09 cait ok, so you have to make sure to write your own text? 15:09 cait A mere listing of ingredients is not protected under copyright law. < 15:09 cait something that is very common in a country 15:09 cait i mean a local recipe might be so general, it's hard to tell 15:09 oleonard The US perspective: https://www.copyright.gov/help/faq/faq-protect.html#recipe 15:09 cait waht about things like "pancake batter" 15:08 caroline_crazycatlady if they are published, yes 15:08 cait a lot of cake recipes are very basic 15:08 cait are recipes (simple ones) copyrighted? 15:08 magnuse yup 15:08 caroline_crazycatlady circling back to oleonard's copyright comment we have to specify to people that this has to be an original recipe, or at least sufficiently modified from an existing one 15:07 magnuse yeah, hard to tell if we will get lots of people contributing or not 15:06 caroline_crazycatlady Ok I added it to the "Layout part" 15:06 cait maybe? 15:06 cait hm i think it depends on how many we get 15:06 oleonard Right 15:06 caroline_crazycatlady Do we want more than one contribution per person or just one? 15:06 cait but missing in layout 15:06 cait ah it's in contributions 15:05 caroline_crazycatlady yes under "The recipe" 15:05 cait The receipe List of ingredients and quantities 15:05 cait i thin it's there 15:05 oleonard For completeness I would add "List of ingredients" to that list above "how to make the dish" 15:05 magnuse and link bwtween them 15:05 caroline_crazycatlady we had already discussed we wanted measurements in metric, so g for weight and ml for volume? 15:05 magnuse i was thinking, if we accept more than one receipe per person, it might make sense to collect the info about the people in one place 15:04 caroline_crazycatlady https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_cookbook_RFC#Contributions 15:04 caroline_crazycatlady does anyone have comments on the elements of the contribution (name of dish, short description, estc 15:04 cait the layout section? 15:04 cait do we agree on the general information to collect as stated on the wiki? 15:04 cait more .. February 15:03 magnuse lulz 15:03 * oleonard wishes 2020 had stopped in June 15:03 caroline_crazycatlady ok back to cookbook 15:02 caroline_crazycatlady 2020 stopped in June so I though it was a manual thing 15:02 cait i think you probably need to change the html template, not complicated but requires access 15:02 caroline_crazycatlady ok if it's something complicated i'll l et them deal with it lol! 15:01 magnuse (cool!) 15:01 wahanui i think gmcharlt is usually lurking much earlier.. hense ashimema's pointing him out 15:01 cait gmcharlt 15:01 Joubu (magnuse: I've asked gmcharlt already) 15:01 caroline_crazycatlady I was already in there 15:01 caroline_crazycatlady I'll do it 15:01 magnuse (off topic: who can add 2021 on https://meetings.koha-community.org/ ?) 15:01 caroline_crazycatlady #info email is koha_cookbook@protonmail.com 15:00 caroline_crazycatlady ok so lets keep it that way 15:00 cait not a strong one 15:00 Joubu :D 15:00 Joubu I prefer with _ 15:00 magnuse me neither 15:00 caroline_crazycatlady I don't have a preference 15:00 caroline_crazycatlady do we prefer koha_cookbook or kohacookbook? 14:59 caroline_crazycatlady oops, sorry, I didn't see! 14:59 caroline_crazycatlady can you set it up so that we can access it via web and/or set it up so that it sends us all emails? 14:59 Joubu create*d* 14:59 Joubu can recreate without _ if needed 14:59 Joubu (I've create koha_cookbook already and sent you the credentials) 14:59 ashimema :) 14:58 caroline_crazycatlady #action Joubu will create the email address kohacookbook@protonmail.com 14:58 caroline_crazycatlady #Joubu will create the email address kohacookbook@protonmail.com 14:57 caroline_crazycatlady #Joubu or ashimema will set up the git repository and the sphinx part 14:57 Joubu yes, action us 14:57 caroline_crazycatlady Joubu or ashimema : can you set up the git repository and the sphinx part? 14:56 magnuse it would be practical if we had one webmail to log into where we could see which submissions had already been handled 14:56 caroline_crazycatlady #action caroline will create a template using restructuredtext for the contributions 14:54 magnuse is that webmail where we can log in and work in the queue? or would it just pass email along to everyone in the committe? 14:54 cait i like it all in one word 14:53 caroline_crazycatlady #agreed use kohacookbook@protonmail.com to send recipes to the editors 14:53 Joubu koha is missing :) 14:53 caroline_crazycatlady so cookbook@protonmail.com is good? 14:53 cait no idea waht protonmail is, but Joubu is usually right 14:52 cait but offtopic here :) 14:52 cait magnuse: it reads emails for advertising... i think that's creepy? 14:52 Joubu and we will create it 14:52 Joubu use koha_cookbook@protonmail.com 14:51 magnuse cait: what are you actually paranoid about? it's not for sensitive info? :-) 14:51 Joubu (there is no mail server) 14:51 Joubu not possible 14:51 caroline_crazycatlady ok 14:51 Joubu no 14:51 caroline_crazycatlady cookbook@k-c.org? 14:51 cait ah ok, yep no then 14:51 Joubu not sure it makes sense to have bugs.k-c.org 14:51 Joubu it's not k-c.org 14:51 Joubu sorry, you mean the bugs.k-c.org address? 14:50 Joubu ha 14:50 Joubu we can use it, yes 14:50 cait Joubu: you have a kc address... is that an option in general? 14:49 magnuse hehe 14:49 caroline_crazycatlady I don't really know other ones, sorry! 14:49 cait paranoid German 14:49 magnuse i think gmail or similar makes sense 14:49 cait sorry :) 14:49 cait gmail??? 14:49 caroline_crazycatlady kohacookbook@gmail? 14:49 cait hm list is bad because it eats the attachements 14:48 magnuse but how? set up an email somewhere? 14:48 cait maybe also have an email acceptance? 14:48 caroline_crazycatlady #agreed we accept contributions outside of gitlab 14:48 cait even the wiki is a bit of a hurdle 14:48 magnuse keep it simple s**** ;-) 14:48 Joubu we could have a template wiki page 14:48 cait can you make that an agreed plz? 14:47 cait i'd be willing to help reformat, once we know how we do it 14:47 caroline_crazycatlady yes bc not everyone is confortable with git 14:47 oleonard Agreed 14:47 cait i think we shoudl accept submissions outside of gitlab too 14:47 cait i am not sure we have many super familiar with the technical bits and ther might be things we don't really use yet? 14:47 magnuse but should we say all submissions must use the template? or accept anything and convert to the template ourselves? 14:46 magnuse awesome if people familiar with the manual could suggest a temaplte 14:46 magnuse i yup 14:46 cait might be good to create a template one can follow 14:45 cait sorry, we ar not using docbook... sphinx... thing 14:45 cait :) 14:45 caroline_crazycatlady same! 14:45 magnuse yeah, i want a physical book :-) 14:45 caroline_crazycatlady https://www.blurb.com/bookstore 14:45 cait i like the information/layout the wiki suggests, can we make this work with docbook in a structured way? 14:45 caroline_crazycatlady in the wiki 14:45 caroline_crazycatlady there was also a print-on-demand option 14:44 caroline_crazycatlady #agreed host the output on gitlab as well 14:44 caroline_crazycatlady #agreed use gitlab and its workflow 14:44 magnuse yeah, we have plenty of space/bandwith too 14:43 cait +1 14:43 * oleonard wonders if we need a recipe copyright expert's advice 14:43 caroline_crazycatlady ok 14:43 Joubu I think we can rely on gitlab to host the output as well. If too big I can host the pdf/epub 14:43 magnuse sounds good to me 14:43 Joubu I'd consider it the same as other side-projects, use gitlab and its workflow 14:42 magnuse ah 14:42 caroline_crazycatlady or gitea 14:42 magnuse don't we need to host the source too? 14:42 caroline_crazycatlady I think so, since the input will be on gitlab 14:42 cait yes 14:42 magnuse gitea = https://git.koha-community.org/ ? 14:42 Joubu only the output? 14:42 cait we could put it on gitlab maybe? or the gitea 14:42 Joubu what do you need to host? 14:41 caroline_crazycatlady but we still have to find somewhere to host it 14:41 cait but there might be other options too 14:41 caroline_crazycatlady ok, good to know 14:41 cait it's an option that would make it quite easy to generate theother things... 14:41 caroline_crazycatlady so we want to use Restructured text for formatting and sphinx for output? 14:41 * ashimema was wrong to blame epub 14:41 ashimema epub is not bad.. it was the translations that made things big in the manual 14:40 magnuse i had not thought of the tools for the manual, but that does sound like a good idea 14:40 cait caroline_crazycatlady: it#s easy if we use the same tools we have for the manual 14:40 caroline_crazycatlady to host 14:40 magnuse big? 14:39 caroline_crazycatlady epub might be a bit big 14:39 magnuse i am thinkgin a git repo that can maybe accept pull requests, but at least the working group members should be able to add commits 14:39 caroline_crazycatlady I'll edit the wiki page as we discuss 14:38 caroline_crazycatlady how do we add contributions? 14:38 cait i think an html version could be nice too 14:38 caroline_crazycatlady on the RFC, it says PDF and or epub 14:38 caroline_crazycatlady We can start with the format 14:38 magnuse format can be both input and output, i guess 14:37 magnuse https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_cookbook_RFC 14:37 magnuse international globetrotter ;-) 14:37 caroline_crazycatlady Ok, I didn't really prepare an agenda, but I thought of some things -- format, asking for contributions, measurements (:P) 14:36 Joubu #info Jonathan Druart 14:36 caroline_crazycatlady lol! 14:35 oleonard Yes, won't someone please think of the shareholders! 14:35 cait same 14:35 ashimema me too.. 14:35 ashimema #info Martin Renvoize, UK 14:35 magnuse (probably doing this on my own time, though) 14:34 cait #info Katrin Fischer, Germany 14:34 magnuse #info Magnus Enger, Libriotech, Norway 14:34 caroline_crazycatlady #info Caroline Cyr La Rose, inLibro, Quebec, Canada 14:34 oleonard #info Owen Leonard, Athens County Public Libraries, Ohio, USA 14:34 caroline_crazycatlady use #info for intorductions 14:34 caroline_crazycatlady #topic Introductions 14:33 huginn The meeting name has been set to 'cookbook_working_group' 14:33 huginn Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 14:33 huginn Meeting started Fri Jan 15 14:33:55 2021 UTC. The chair is caroline_crazycatlady. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 14:33 caroline_crazycatlady #startmeeting Cookbook Working Group 14:33 caroline_crazycatlady ah ok good 14:33 Joubu caroline_crazycatlady: nope, just the usual # 14:32 cait just realized i forgot to check out the wiki page :( 14:32 ashimema :) 14:31 caroline_crazycatlady should I create a wiki page to get the minutes and everything? 14:31 magnuse \o/ 14:31 caroline_crazycatlady i'm getting ready 14:31 caroline_crazycatlady yes 14:31 cait ok *jitters* 14:31 cait are we meeting here? 14:31 Joubu (best meeting ever is coming, be ready) 14:31 cait thx for the suggestion ) 14:31 jsicot thx 14:30 cait just labelled "Twitter" 14:30 cait twitter is a good idea, i have added it 14:29 cait i will do that 14:29 cait heh 14:29 oleonard A link to my SoundCloud? 14:28 jsicot Twitter account https://twitter.com/kohails maybe ? 14:26 cait done 14:25 Joubu Youtube channel? 14:25 cait Videos on Youtube ? 14:25 cait heh wahanui, not in that case 14:24 wahanui label is "Additional attributes and identifiers" 14:24 cait label? 14:24 Joubu https://www.youtube.com/c/KohaILS 14:24 Joubu maybe add the youtube channel? 14:23 cait so if someone wants we could bring it back 14:23 cait i've set it to private 14:23 cait thx :) 14:23 oleonard I would remove it 14:23 cait ? 14:23 cait any votes on killing the vimeo oneß 14:22 oleonard At least it's logical in some way 14:22 cait oleonard: the sequence is alphabetic, i see no option to change it :( 14:22 cait last link in the list (in case you wondered what i am talking about) 14:21 cait koha 3.2 videos too 14:21 cait i am tempted to remove it? 14:21 cait it lists only 5 videos 14:21 cait https://vimeo.com/channels/kohails 14:21 cait kidclamp: do youknow maybe? 14:21 cait is vimeo still being used? 14:20 Joubu yup! 14:20 cait yeah i can see that, sorry 14:20 cait fixed 14:20 Joubu like gitlab 14:20 Joubu and Koha is the project 14:20 Joubu it's following the same pattern "koha-community" is the group/namespace 14:19 cait changing 14:19 cait hm not very handy that one :) 14:19 Joubu it's https://git.koha-community.org/Koha-community/Koha 14:19 Joubu https://git.koha-community.org/Koha is wrong 14:19 cait try again please 14:19 Joubu those link? 14:19 cait deleting cache 14:19 Joubu " 14:19 Joubu "Community Resources 14:18 cait it shows for me 14:18 cait hm 14:18 Joubu no changes 14:16 cait please test 14:16 cait on it 14:16 cait ok 14:16 Joubu directly 14:16 Joubu I'd point to the Koha repo dorectly 14:16 Joubu for the other one you can directly link to https://git.koha-community.org/Koha-community/Koha 14:16 cait should we point to the koha repo or to the level above? 14:15 cait ah ok 14:15 cait https://gitlab.com/koha-community 14:15 Joubu https://gitlab.com/koha-community/Koha 14:14 cait do you have th elink on hand maybe? i can do that 14:14 Joubu I was suggesting to replace github with gitlab 14:13 cait i will see how tog et there 14:13 cait but we could add the one on gitlab too? 14:13 cait it# actually the github mirror 14:13 cait but it always bugged e too 14:13 cait i think they are alphabetic 14:12 Joubu cait: yes, could be "Koha Git Repository" and a link to the "Gitlab mirror" 14:12 oleonard I agree cait. I would put "Koha Git Repository" above Github too 14:10 cait https://koha-community.org/ 14:10 cait I'd like to change the first to: Github (mirror) and we are no longer using gitweb... so maybe Koha Git Repository? 14:09 cait should we change the links on the website? Github Koha Gitweb 14:09 magnuse cookbook-meeting in about 21 minutes? 14:08 magnuse ah, yes, i am mistaken 14:07 magnuse oh yes, maybe half past? 14:02 ashimema mmm, foood 14:02 cait also with apron ready here :) 14:02 cait is it an hour or half an hour? 13:57 * oleonard has his apron ready 13:56 magnuse cookbook-meeting in about 1 hour? 13:47 ashimema that looks like it could be doable actually 13:44 ashimema that would indeed be cool 13:39 oleonard ...with the ulterior motive that I want to be able to jettison LTFL support ;) 13:38 oleonard It would be cool if you could click a statistic in Hea and see a breakdown of Koha version numbers. I'm curious, for instance, what version the 103 libraries using LibraryThingForLibraries are on 13:19 cait der_smon: I had a hunch :) 12:44 * oleonard sees the ElasticSearch license news... :( 11:56 wahanui hi oleopard 11:56 ashimema hi oleonard 11:53 ashimema afraid I can't really test it.. don't know enough about UNIMARC.. but it 'looks right' to me. 11:53 oleonard-away Hi all 11:53 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=27299 normal, P5 - low, ---, dcook, Signed Off , Zebra phrase register is incorrectly tokenized when using ICU 11:53 ashimema I think it makes sense 11:53 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=18017 major, P5 - low, ---, fridolin.somers, Needs Signoff , Use index_heading and index_match_heading in UNIMARC authorities zebra configuration 11:53 ashimema I've updated bug 18017 to add bug 27299 as a dependancy fridolin 11:16 der_smon dainst ;) 11:16 der_smon huhu cait 11:13 ashimema your not german are you cait? :P 11:13 ashimema hehe 11:13 cait German users here always have me curious :) 11:12 jsicot :-) 11:12 cait oh i meant der_smon - i know i have met jsicot :) 11:10 jsicot ^^ 11:10 ashimema aha.. I may or may not have been at one of those.. haha.. it's long enough ago my brain has faded 11:09 jsicot yes, I was present at Hackfest perhaps in 2012 or 2013 ? 11:09 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=27427 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , Update the way form validation errors are displayed 11:09 * ashimema wonders if we should have some guidelines of form validation... bug 27427 has opened a small can of worms for me. 11:08 * ashimema is Martin from PTFS Europe 11:08 ashimema we've probably met too.. if you've been to marseille hackfest in recent years :) 11:08 ashimema always nice to know where people are from.. 11:08 ashimema no worries.. 11:08 jsicot ah sorry 11:07 ashimema I think cait1 was asking where dr_smon comes from.. as they said they're german earlier in chat :) 11:06 Joubu jsicot, cait, I am pretty sure you met already :) 11:02 jsicot Hi @cait1, Sorry, the question was for me? I'm a systems librarian at Rennes 2 university Library (in France) 10:59 cait1 which library? 10:58 * cait1 waves at der_smon 10:55 cait1 oh so much talking here to read back 10:44 Joubu Always consider the bug is fixed already, and update :) 10:43 der_smon ah nice 10:41 kidclamp der_smon: ^^ 10:41 huginn Bug 25342: major, P5 - low, ---, nick, CLOSED FIXED, Scripts not running under plack can cause duplication of ES records 10:41 kidclamp https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=25342 10:37 der_smon (meaning 856 z is no-matching) 10:37 der_smon the duplicate shows up even if the record is not changed 10:37 der_smon so my modification rule is "update existing or add new" and basically i check for specific values of 856 z and want to replace them with a different value 10:36 Joubu there are 700 commits, maybe one is fixing it 10:35 der_smon i will try 10:35 Joubu you are missing 12 minor versions 10:35 Joubu v19.05.17 10:35 jsicot Joubu Great :-) 10:35 Joubu der_smon: can you try with the latest 19.05.x? 10:34 Joubu then detail what you are doing exactly in the batch tool, I will try 10:34 der_smon 19.05.05.000 10:33 Joubu der_smon: which exact version of Koha are you using? 10:33 der_smon yes, same biblionumber 10:33 Joubu Welcome jsicot, that's the perfect place for that :) 10:31 jsicot I'm a koha enthusiast, I join this channel to find or share some information about my favorite ils ^^ 10:29 jsicot Hi #koha folks 10:24 ashimema I'll test it though :) 10:24 ashimema it had only just gone on mine.. but was on the 'when i get a five minute break' list.. which isn't often these days 10:23 ashimema haha.. 10:23 Joubu It was on my list for 2 months... 10:23 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=27047 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Purchase suggestions can not search 10:23 ashimema lol.. you beat me to it on bug 27047.. tnaks Joubu :) 10:22 Joubu (I don't think that's possible...) 10:21 Joubu Are they pointing to the same record (same biblionumber)? 10:21 der_smon i am currently checking the index itself 10:21 der_smon in the result view 10:20 Joubu der_smon: I am going to ask you the same question as yesterday: in elastic index or in the Koha search result view? 10:15 ashimema also.. my brain tends to wake up after a few cups of tea and I become more helpful in the afternoons too ;P 10:13 der_smon thx ;) 10:12 ashimema catches the widest group :) 10:12 ashimema generally, european afternoons are a good time to say hello.. at the point we should have a fair few europeans around as well as a few americans 10:11 ashimema the other one who knows elastic well is ere.. but I haven't seen him around much recently 10:11 der_smon germany, and i start working quite early ;) 10:11 ashimema kidclamp is USA 10:11 ashimema where are you based der_smon 10:10 der_smon seems i am somewhat out of sync with kidclamp 10:10 der_smon ok 09:59 ashimema kidclamp is probably best to talk to about that.. but he won't be up for a few more hours I'm afraid der_smon 09:47 der_smon meaning i have to reindex to get rid of the duplicate search results 09:47 der_smon got pulled away from my keyboard yesterday and was not able to react: on 19.05 with elastic search, i get duplicates when batch modifying records in the search index 09:45 der_smon hey! 09:45 ashimema ES is cool.. but I personally still think there's a fair bit of life left in Zebra 09:44 * ashimema is really happy to see a bit more love going into Zebra again at the moment.. 09:44 wahanui darn tootin' it is. 09:44 ashimema excellent 09:43 fridolin indeed, we are on this subject actually 09:41 ashimema should mean Zebra and linking work much better :) 09:41 ashimema so yeah.. if you can varify it works too that would be awesome.. then we can get both in. 09:40 ashimema ooh.. David re-wrote it.. so I can SO or QA :) 09:39 ashimema if you fancied it :) 09:39 ashimema but as Colin wrote it.. many moons ago.. I'm unable to SO or QA that one 09:39 fridolin ashimema: do you whant me to sign also ? 09:38 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11158 normal, P5 - low, ---, colin.campbell, Needs Signoff , Authorities 'starts with' search returns the same as 'contains' when using ICU 09:38 ashimema I'm also looking at bug 11158.. which we've retested on top of the above.. and it works great too! 09:38 ashimema fancy giving it your magic stamp as I SO'd it ;) 09:38 fridolin ashimema: oh yep its perfect 09:31 ashimema it works really well for us in testing.. I'm hoping to get it through QA 09:31 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=27299 normal, P5 - low, ---, dcook, Signed Off , Zebra phrase register is incorrectly tokenized when using ICU 09:31 ashimema fridolin.. have you tested bug 27299 ? 09:30 ashimema morning 09:27 cait1 not in Kontanz to be more specific 09:27 cait1 we never got that much as long as I can think of 08:54 magnuse snow here too, first time this year we had a "proper" snowfall 08:15 cait1 snow snow snow.... 07:29 alex_a Bonjour 07:08 wahanui que tal, fridolin 07:08 fridolin hi 06:53 reiveune hello 02:46 koha-jenkins Project Koha_19.11_D9 build #291: SUCCESS in 50 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_19.11_D9/291/ 02:27 koha-jenkins Project Koha_19.11_U20 build #184: SUCCESS in 34 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_19.11_U20/184/ 02:02 koha-jenkins Project Koha_19.11_D10 build #120: SUCCESS in 48 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_19.11_D10/120/ 02:00 koha-jenkins Project Koha_19.11_U16 build #41: SUCCESS in 45 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_19.11_U16/41/ 01:56 koha-jenkins Project Koha_19.11_D8 build #358: UNSTABLE in 40 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_19.11_D8/358/ 01:52 koha-jenkins Project Koha_19.11_U18 build #287: FIXED in 37 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_19.11_U18/287/ 01:52 wahanui Congratulations! 01:52 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed!