IRC log for #koha, 2020-10-16

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00:05 koha-jenkins Project Koha_20.05_D9_My8 build #89: SUCCESS in 50 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]_20.05_D9_My8/89/
00:07 koha-jenkins Project Koha_20.05_U18 build #86: SUCCESS in 45 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]oha_20.05_U18/86/
00:39 dcook Thanks ashimema[m]
00:39 dcook I'm going crazy... I know I looked into why Plack shows a terrible "Internal Server Error" page... but can't remember now
00:40 dcook Ahhh bug 26048
00:40 dcook Phew
00:40 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=26048 normal, P5 - low, ---, dcook, NEW , Apache does not use /cgi-bin/koha/errors/ if Perl script dies
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00:55 dcook Wow TIL that we actually do still have Schedule::At in Koha..
01:01 dcook mtj: Bug 26702 for removing libnet-stomp-perl from debian/
01:01 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=26702 minor, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Needs Signoff , Remove explicit libnet-stomp-perl from debian/
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01:10 shaffendi hi everyone. i tried to enable plugin in koha but after that i cant find UseKohaPlugins in system preference. i used koha ver 20.05 on debian 9
01:11 shaffendi first i edit koha-conf.xml and change 0 value to 1
01:12 shaffendi then i restart apache and memcahche
01:12 shaffendi cound anyone help me what i did wrong here?
01:12 shaffendi could*
01:13 shaffendi i tried to 2 of my koha server but both came out same result
01:14 shaffendi Koha version:
01:17 shaffendi No system preferences matched your search for: UseKohaPlugins
01:21 oleonard shaffendi I don't know much about it but I'm curious if you navigate to /cgi-bin/koha/plugins/ if it works
01:22 shaffendi af
01:22 shaffendi ah
01:23 shaffendi elonard
01:23 shaffendi i just got that plugin enable after restart the server
01:24 shaffendi wonder why just restart web server is not enough
01:24 shaffendi wait i try on 2nd server
01:26 * oleonard disappears again
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02:14 shaffendi ya it works after server restart
02:14 shaffendi thanks guys
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03:12 dcook @later tell Joubu Apologies if it looks like I've been ignoring your emails. Our mail server appears to have been marking them as spam. Will look at remedying that...
03:12 huginn dcook: The operation succeeded.
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05:22 TimothyAlexis Yesterday I had problems wtih koha-testing-docker. ashimema helped with 'docker system prune -af', after which everything was downloaded again when starting with 'ku'.
05:22 TimothyAlexis This worked.
05:23 TimothyAlexis Today I have a similar problem again.
05:30 TimothyAlexis es_1         | [2020-10-16T05:29:35,250][INFO ][o.e.x.m.p.NativeController] [fZSohqk] Native controller process has stopped - no new native processes can be started koha_es_1 exited with code 78
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06:12 TimothyAlexis I fixed it. :)
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06:19 marcelr hi #koha
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06:31 severine_q morning #koha !
06:36 marcelr hi severine_q
06:37 severine_q hi marcelr :)
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06:45 ashimema[m] Koha is moving a pace at the minute..
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06:52 ashimema[m] Mornin' #koha
06:53 alex_a Bonjour
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07:01 marcelr hi ashimema alex_a
07:01 alex_a Hello marcelr \o
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07:35 ashimema dbic_trace and dbic_trace_profile will probably be your friends when testing auto_savepoints marcelr
07:35 ashimema I used a quick script and those running from command line to understand it myself
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07:55 * ashimema thinks cait was targetting 42 QA's just to get exactly double me
07:56 ashimema me just misread that.. 32 would have been double..
07:59 TimothyAlexis Is there a way to distinguish a biblio as 'new'?
07:59 ashimema magnuse around?
08:09 TimothyAlexis Or rather, is there a way to distinguish an item as 'new'?
08:11 ashimema erm.. pass I'm afraid
08:12 ashimema still fairly early.. some other folk may pop in soon and know the answer
08:12 ashimema what are you wanting to achieve?
08:12 ashimema I believe there are plugin hooks on the biblio/item creation routines now.. so you might be able to use that to catch new items?
08:13 TimothyAlexis To display new items on the first page or to view a list with new items.
08:13 ashimema https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]Koha_Plugin_Hooks
08:15 ashimema there's a new_status field in the table.. no idea what it's used for however
08:15 ashimema and dateaccessioned?
08:19 TimothyAlexis Yeah I noticed that new_status too.
08:19 TimothyAlexis I'm thinking if datelastseen = dateaccessioned the book could be considered new.
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08:25 ashimema sounds like a reasonable idea
08:25 ashimema as I say.. I'm not really sure.. have a bit fo a play :)
08:26 TimothyAlexis bug 26032
08:26 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=26032 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, fridolin.somers, Needs Signoff , Add 'is new' filter in items search
08:27 ashimema ooh.. nice
08:29 ashimema I have no idea what sets and unsets the new status..
08:31 fridolin 26032 is not ready yet, ISNULL() is a mysqlism
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08:32 TimothyAlexis fridolin do you know when the status is set and unset? Because all our items have this set as NULL
08:33 fridolin[…]ysql_coalesce.asp
08:33 fridolin TimothyAlexis: ah you need to set a Koha to marc mapping link with an item subfield
08:33 fridolin like 952$B
08:34 ashimema oh.. so it's maintained at a cataloguing level?
08:34 fridolin and then use Tools ›                      Automatic item modifications by age
08:34 fridolin to un-new after a few days
08:35 ashimema aha.. I see
08:35 fridolin TimothyAlexis: see cron misc/cronjobs/automatic_it​
08:35 ashimema nice little flow there.. is it documented anywhere?
08:35 fridolin heuuuu
08:35 ashimema hehe
08:36 fridolin i'm not at the origin of this dev
08:36 fridolin maybe dig into bugzilla
08:37 TimothyAlexis fridolin: "you need to set a Koha to marc mapping link with an item subfield"
08:37 TimothyAlexis Why? :\
08:40 fridolin TimothyAlexis: in order to catalog a value when creating items, any value means "is new"
08:40 fridolin define default value 1 in framework so that any item created gets is new = 1
08:41 fridolin delete the subfield to unset item "is new"
08:42 ashimema it's reasonably elegant when you think about it.
08:47 TimothyAlexis we don't import items with marc
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08:53 ashimema hmm.. my Kohacon email went into spam.. check your spam boxes peeps.. else you might miss the links
08:56 fridolin TimothyAlexis: ah heu this feature is for items
08:57 fridolin but you may create an item type "new" for biblio records
08:57 magnuse ashimema: am now
08:57 fridolin you will have to manually unset then
08:57 fridolin "To display new items on the first page or to view a list with new items."
08:57 fridolin ahhhhh
08:59 magnuse why not just use the dateaccessioned or something like that and say the x most recent ones are new?
09:00 fridolin to view a list with new items, you can create a link on a search sorting by date of acquisition
09:00 fridolin magnuse++
09:02 ashimema I found what I was looking for in the end magnuse.. I was sure you'd created an issue for koha-dashboard but I couldn't for the life of me find it
09:03 ashimema I did eventually and I've now moved it to the active repository and asked you a question ;)
09:04 TimothyAlexis magnuse we will use the status to set it manually when books are put on a display shelf in one of our libraries.
09:06 fridolin TimothyAlexis: look also at
09:14 TimothyAlexis We're using that plugin :)
09:15 TimothyAlexis We changed the positioning to % instead of px, so that it would resize with window width.
09:17 ashimema nice
09:18 TimothyAlexis fridolin++
09:18 TimothyAlexis ashimema++
09:24 TimothyAlexis Thanks guys :D
09:28 magnuse ashimema: hope i responded in the right place? maybe remove or mark the inactive one?
09:28 magnuse inactive?
09:29 ashimema indeed
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09:58 * cait waves
10:10 cait noone here?
10:12 ashimema hi cait
10:12 magnuse \o/
10:13 ashimema :)
10:14 ashimema right.. now what should I do today
10:14 ashimema I have a feeling it's a bit late for my transfers tree this cycle.. wondering whether it's worth continuing there or waiting
10:15 severine_q hi Cait :)
10:15 ashimema it's another area I was really hoping to get done.. been trying to get that darn 'Transfers to send' report into community for ages
10:16 cait yay :)
10:17 cait ashimema:  you still have another week to throw things at me basically :)
10:17 cait but I'd also like to get the QA queue below 10 today...
10:17 cait looks like i missed marcelr already?
10:22 * magnuse expects everyone is watching the european final of the bocuse d'or
10:24 cait ... the.. what?
10:26 magnuse the olympics of cooking
10:26 ashimema there's some challenging ones in that queue cait
10:26 cait yes i know
10:26 cait i certainly need some help there
10:26 ashimema and I'm blocked from at least 4
10:27 cait leaves 12 others! :)
10:27 magnuse cait: here's the live feed
10:27 magnuse qateam++
10:29 vfernandes how we can improve the XSLT processing of a giant record (more than 1000 items)?
10:31 cait magnuse: watched 5 secons and now i am hungry
10:31 cait magnuse: the comment is kinda hard to understand
10:32 magnuse yeah, it's in norwegian, i thought it was english
10:34 cait who is winning?
10:35 magnuse dunno, the norwegian participant is from bodø and seems very set on winning ;-)
10:36 magnuse (he placed #1 in europe and 3# in the world last time)
10:36 cait ah ok i see :)
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10:44 kohaputti tcohen, have you started the work on bug 21366 ? If not I might be interested to take on the task, although maybe after week or two, not right now.
10:44 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=21366 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, ASSIGNED , add plack reload
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11:12 oleonard Hi all
11:14 cait hi oleonard :)
11:15 tcohen morning
11:15 tcohen kohaputti I haven't
11:16 cait oleonard: i see your opinion was requested on bug 23823
11:16 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=23823 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, helix84, Signed Off , Allow system preferences to be bookmarked
11:16 cait :)
11:16 oleonard Oh cool I love giving my opinion
11:16 cait sometimes... i wish i could see your face, but it might not be telling me anything...
11:17 oleonard :D
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11:53 cait :)
11:53 cait *sends cookies to everyone*
11:53 cait I am so happy about all the "fresh" patches in QA queue
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11:54 cait come and get them!
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12:28 * cait waves at khall
12:29 * khall waves
12:31 magnuse \o/
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13:07 cait khall++ thx for taking the guarantor ones
13:08 cait i'd love to see those go in - they already put a lot of work into it with lots of changes needed we we changed the underlying code
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13:11 ashimema TimothyAlexis still around?
13:25 cait oleonard: i was just testing the ill notices bug and noticed a button dark grey with black writing (bootstrap)
13:26 cait do we already have a standard fix for that? should they be a specific different color?
13:26 oleonard Where do you see it?
13:26 cait you'd need to have ILL configured
13:26 cait http://localhost:8080/cgi-bin/[…]&illrequest_id=32
13:27 ashimema screenshot ?
13:27 wahanui it has been said that screenshot is frenched and there is a not about having used a translator
13:27 cait <input type="submit" class="update-illrequest btn btn-default" value="Submit modifications">
13:27 cait working on it
13:31 cait https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]ent.cgi?id=111874
13:31 oleonard Since it's a submit button I'd change "btn-default" to "btn-primary," but it should be considered a general bug that input:submit.btn-default has black text.
13:31 ashimema hmm
13:31 cait so ...
13:31 ashimema I wonder if that's Koha side or Backend side
13:32 oleonard It's Koha
13:32 cait ah yes, that's stnadard opac template
13:32 ashimema okies
13:32 cait for ILL, but not part of the backend
13:32 ashimema thanks
13:33 cait viewing your requests in opac
13:33 ashimema 12 bugs to go cait :)
13:33 cait yeah, but i need tofind some late breakfast first
13:33 cait :)
13:34 * oleonard needs to do more testing of ILL in the OPAC
13:34 cait oleonard: not sure what the recommendation was now - should we file a separate report or fix in template?
13:34 cait hm might be a separate report either way
13:34 cait just not sure if i should file it for ILL for for a specific button type
13:35 oleonard Both: btn-default is the wrong class in this template. But btn-default is supposed to work.
13:35 cait so... 2 bugs
13:36 ashimema I so want a superhero icon now
13:37 cait bug 26706
13:37 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=26706 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , Fix btn-default styling for better contrast
13:37 ashimema[…]nge_superman_icon
13:39 cait doesn't work for me :)
13:39 cait male person tearing clothes off might also lead to misunderstandings...
13:40 cait[…]an_superhero_icon :)
13:41 oleonard[…]erwork_tired_icon
13:41 ashimema hehehe
13:41 ashimema love it
13:41 cait hm yeah that one too heh
13:41 cait grumpy cait[…]ck_superhero_icon
13:42 cait dev and qa relationship?[…]l_superpower_icon
13:42 cait ok... i better really find food now
13:42 ashimema I've unleashed a storm of icons!
13:42 ashimema :)
13:42 ashimema hehe
13:42 oleonard Also, these icons are pushing the limits of what can be defined as an icon :/
13:43 cait true
13:43 cait remember chris superlibraian cape?
13:43 cait i thin they just did the Koha K
13:43 cait that could maybe owrk
13:43 ashimema hehe
13:44 ashimema any thoughts from the accessability front regarding the red icon to denote superlibrarian
13:44 ashimema I wasn't going to fail it on that.. I like it..
13:44 ashimema but I'm not entirely sure how color blind friendly it is..
13:44 cait hm i think rule is you shoul not use color only
13:44 cait for information
13:45 ashimema indeed
13:45 cait color + some other visual clue
13:45 ashimema perhaps we could add a pattern to the background for it?
13:45 lukeG morning Koha!
13:45 ashimema what do you think oleonard.. achievable?
13:45 cait bbiab
13:45 cait and hi lukeG :)
13:47 ashimema 1 bugs to go and I've hit caits 10 target
13:48 oleonard I think that's a good point which I didn't consider. My instinct is to look for a different icon but I don't know if there's something appropriate
13:48 oleonard Hehe...
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13:49 ashimema hehe..
13:50 ashimema done
13:51 ashimema we're at 10!
13:51 * oleonard tries to picture the NSO queue at 10 and fails
13:51 ashimema lol
13:51 oleonard Maybe this for superlibrarian?
13:52 ashimema yeay.. and I'm back to half as good as cait :)
13:52 ashimema that could work
13:53 ashimema that or a padlock I wondered
13:53 ashimema but I think I prefer the start
14:09 ashimema down to 8 cait
14:10 ashimema I'm locked out of 3 remaining ones.. and I think a the guarantors ones are partially waiting on feedback for one of the other guarantor ones that just failed.. and I'm waiting for the go again from khall on barcode plugin hooks..
14:10 ashimema so.. I reckon it's time for me to go back to working no my transfers bugs.
14:26 oleonard QA++
14:27 ashimema ready to fill it back up oleonard?
14:27 ashimema we should tag a bunch of easy bugs for the workshops next week
14:27 oleonard Getting ready to submit a patch right now :D
14:28 cait khall: could you take on bug 26598?
14:28 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=26598 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, maryse.simard, Signed Off , Display guarantee's fines on guarantor's details page
14:29 cait they actually look to be quite separte on first glance - the other 2 guarnator ones
14:29 cait not dependency linkd
14:30 * ashimema is looking at bug 26597 at the moment
14:30 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=26597 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, maryse.simard, Signed Off , Transfer information from guarantor when adding a guarantor to an existing patron
14:30 cait i am on 24083 now
14:30 ashimema mm
14:30 cait ah cool
14:30 ashimema coulnd't help myself
14:30 cait please go on :)
14:32 ashimema bug 26398 and bug 25596 would be nice ot see move
14:32 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=26398 normal, P5 - low, ---, martin.renvoize, Needs Signoff , Credit and Debit types on creating a manual credits and manual invoices are not translatable
14:32 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=25596 normal, P5 - low, ---, martin.renvoize, Needs Signoff , "Overpayment refund" is not translatable
14:33 ashimema problem is.. as much as I understand how to fix them.. I'm struggling to write a meaningful test plan
14:33 ashimema any tips cait?
14:34 cait agree on wanting to see them move... have refrained from signing as I didn't want to make them stuck
14:34 cait oleonard has written some nice test plans for the message translation ones
14:34 ashimema I think you're one of very very few people who 'get it' with regards those..
14:34 cait maybe you can steal from him?
14:34 ashimema I also think they're simple enough you could just straight QA them personally...
14:34 cait i am going to the issues one then maybe can move on to those
14:34 caroline I,ll try to test
14:35 cait oh great caroline
14:35 cait ashimema: i filed another last night
14:35 ashimema also.. bug 22394 would be an easy SO for someone
14:35 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=22394 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, martin.renvoize, Needs Signoff , Remove C4::Accounts::manualinvoice
14:35 ashimema just grep the codebase for manualinvoice
14:35 cait bug 26697
14:35 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=26697 major, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Types and descriptions of charges only show in English in the OPAC
14:36 cait i think this one is major because OPAC
14:36 ashimema really..
14:36 cait i found it while testing the cancel feature
14:36 cait maybe i am mistaken, but it didn't look good compared to staff yesterday
14:36 ashimema that's really odd..
14:36 ashimema there is such an include in the OPAC too
14:36 ashimema and I keep resyncing them
14:36 ashimema hmm
14:36 cait i didn't find it when looking for the cancellation one
14:36 cait maybe it WAS me
14:37 cait but would be happy if you oculd have a look and prove me wrong about the bug (always am)
14:37 ashimema
14:37 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed!
14:37 wahanui Congratulations!
14:37 koha-jenkins Project Koha_20.05_D9 build #99: FIXED in 40 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]Koha_20.05_D9/99/
14:38 ashimema hmm..
14:38 ashimema I'll take a look
14:38 cait probably the cancel one nees another follow-pu then too-1
14:38 cait !
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14:38 ashimema yup
14:38 ashimema probably
14:38 wahanui it has been said that probably is too hard.
14:38 cait hi ivandz
14:43 cait hm change of plans - back to ill notices :)
14:43 wahanui cait: that doesn't look right
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14:43 ashimema :)
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14:48 ashimema cait
14:48 ashimema I just installed fr-FR and none of the terms are translated yet.. but the code is there..
14:49 ashimema the 'status' strings are however.
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14:49 ashimema I could however split it out into it's own include.. to match that of the staff client
14:49 ashimema that might be a nice idea
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15:01 cait ashimema: not quite following - none of them translated doesn't sound so good
15:01 cait oh
15:01 cait you mean the translations are missing in po files
15:01 ashimema they're all there ready and waiting
15:01 cait are they new with 20.05? gemran is complete as of 20.05 release... but every added or changed after would be missing right
15:01 cait that's a relieve
15:01 cait would you mind doing a follow-up for the cancel patch?
15:01 ashimema yup.. they're a 20.05 thing
15:01 ashimema sure
15:02 caroline what is the difference between a payout and a payment?
15:02 cait direction :)
15:02 caroline Google translate gives me the same word in french...
15:02 ashimema payment is when a patron pays for something
15:02 cait payout is the lirary giving the patron money
15:02 ashimema payout is when the library pays the patron for something
15:02 caroline so like a reimbursement?
15:02 ashimema yup
15:02 ashimema exactly
15:02 cait i think probably most likely for a credit when they are leaving
15:03 caroline ok I'll use the word for reimbursement then
15:03 ashimema :)
15:03 caroline I'm juste translating everything that has "Credit" because I don't see a difference between patch and no patch hehe
15:03 ashimema good plan
15:03 ashimema thanks caroline
15:04 ashimema brb.. got my covid survey to fill in
15:04 oleonard ashimema I hope you give covid a very poor rating. Zero out of five stars.
15:04 caroline hm... what is the difference between payout and refund?
15:05 caroline oleonard lol!
15:11 ashimema hehe
15:11 ashimema ok..
15:11 ashimema so a payout is the literal handing over of cash from library to patron
15:11 ashimema how you are 'owed' that can come about in a few ways.... including a 'refund'
15:12 ashimema process wise
15:13 ashimema patron gets an overdue fine -> patron returns item on closed day -> patron pays overdue fine in full -> staff backdates return -> oops, patron payed too much, system adds 'refund' credit to patrons account -> patron decides to leave the library forever -> librarian issues a 'payout' of the 'refund' credit that's on the patrons record.
15:14 ashimema man that makes it sound complicated.. but it's one of the route that may result in a payout
15:14 ashimema a payout is an oddity in the system in so much as it looks like a 'debit' on the patrons account because of the way the maths works
15:15 ashimema caroline.. does that all make sense?
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15:16 caroline So the payout is the "physical" changing of hands of the money (like "payment" but the other way around) and "refund" is the credit type (like "fee" but the other way around)?
15:17 ashimema exactly
15:17 ashimema did you see the comment I wrote up for cait the other day trying to explain all the different system types as they currently stand?
15:17 caroline hum... ok... I don't think we have a different word for it in French, which might create a confusion
15:18 caroline I'll check with marie-luce see if she has any ideas
15:18 caroline ashimema: no I didn't
15:18 ashimema I'll dig it out
15:18 ashimema and at some point if oyu point me to an appropriate part of the manual to add it I'll happily do something for that
15:19 ashimema https://bugs.koha-community.or[…].cgi?id=24603#c20
15:19 huginn Bug 24603: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Passed QA , Allow to cancel charges in patron accounting
15:19 ashimema it's that comment
15:20 cait bug 22818
15:20 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=22818 new feature, P5 - low, ---, andrew.isherwood, Passed QA , ILL should be able to send notices
15:20 cait ;)
15:20 ashimema :D
15:21 cait i added 3 little follow-ups
15:21 cait switch a word in prefs and adding a hint on the library page, hopw they are agreeable :)
15:22 caroline ashimema: cool, I'll keep it aside and see where it can fit in the manual
15:24 ashimema :)
15:24 ashimema sounds good to me cait
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15:30 cait kidclamp or khall: would you be able to help me with the SIP bit of the test plan on bug 24083?
15:30 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=24083 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, andrew.isherwood, Signed Off , Koha should support "seen" vs "unseen" renewals
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15:33 cait could someone sanity check my comment on bug 26340?
15:33 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=26340 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, ivan.dziuba, Failed QA , When printing labels from a barcode range, keep zero padding
15:35 oleonard This new "css_and_scss_in_sync" message from the QA tool makes my tests less satisfying
15:35 ashimema hehe.
15:35 ashimema I found the same oleonard
15:36 * cait needs a brain break
15:49 ashimema down to 7!
15:49 ashimema right.. on that note I think it's time for me to clock out
15:49 ashimema have a good weekend #koha
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15:49 wahanui Congratulations!
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15:53 cait i just took a screenshot :)
15:54 cait same for me for now I am afraid - will get busy with baking for a bit to reset the brain
15:54 cait have a nice weekend everyone!
15:54 cait and great job!
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16:15 smrt hi is anyone else having the issue where the login modal isn't focus trapped? I checked the demo OPAC on biblibre (bywater's demo seems to in "testing") and when I try navigating with keyboard only, the focus jumps out of the modal and onto the links and buttons of the main page. or has this bug been reported? I can't seem to find it if it was.
16:20 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed!
16:20 wahanui Congratulations!
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17:11 lukeG Have a great weekend Koha! :)
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17:24 tuxayo smrt: «login modal isn't focus trapped» Have your already seen it trapped?
17:25 tuxayo To know if there is a regression of it it's a UX issue.
17:28 oleonard There is a bug filed just the other day: Bug 26695
17:28 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=26695 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , Set focus for cursor to login box on the login popup modal
17:29 oleonard ...but I don't find that the keyboard focus moves behind the modal. In my test the focus goes first to the "X" button and then to the login field.
17:31 smrt oh yeah that's fine but if you keep pressing tab past the last part of the modal it goes to what's behind the modal. if you go to the example modal section on bootstrap 2.3.1 tabbing stays within the modal no matter how many times you tab
17:34 oleonard What version are you on smrt?
17:35 smrt 19.11
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17:38 smrt And I just checked it on the Catalyst demo OPAC it's doing the same thing on 20.05. tabbing leaves the modal and cycles through the rest of the page after tabbing past the login button in the modal.
17:38 oleonard smrt I can reproduce that problem in 19.11 and 20.05. It will be fixed in 20.11 where a new version of Bootstrap is used.
17:39 smrt oh thank god. i was wondering when an update was coming to bootstrap in koha.
17:39 smrt I've been fighting 2.3.1 for years. lol
17:39 smrt is there an ETA on it?
17:42 tuxayo «Gratulation, Sie haben den Prozess abgeschlossen und können nun Koha nutzen»
17:42 tuxayo yay finally installed Koha for the first time after 3 years working on it XD
17:43 tuxayo (I think I installed it, because I did the install in German, which I don't understand at all. It was for a German related patch)
17:44 tuxayo And I almost got locked outside due forgetting the credentials I elected ^^"
17:47 oleonard smrt: "20.11" means November 2020 :)
17:48 oleonard Currently the exact date is 2020-11-27, but that is subject to change.
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17:56 smrt oh lol makes sense
17:56 smrt thanks everyone for the help and info
17:58 tuxayo smrt: the Bootstrap update came thanks to the work of oleonard :D . Help is very needed on UI stuff.
17:58 tuxayo Are there by any chance enhancements or fixes that you have at your library but could benefit everyone?
17:59 * tuxayo tries to sneakingly recruit in order to double the Koha UI team
18:03 smrt oh lolol im not sure anyone would want to use my enhancements they are very hacky-ish.
18:04 smrt "enhancements"
18:04 oleonard But if they are solutions you felt were necessary they could be filed as bugs to get a less hacky-ish fix.
18:04 oleonard ...assuming they're not changes which are only relevant to your library
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18:13 smrt Well for one thing our production server is still on 3.16 so most of the "enhancements" have been fixed by 19.11. and I'm pretty sure they are changes only relevant to our library (grouping item types by branch in advanced search is one example that im pretty sure no one else needs)
18:14 caroline smrt: It's interesting
18:15 caroline I wonder if it's doable now by limiting the itemtypecat authorised values by library
18:15 caroline smrt: can you share the link? I'm curious what it looks like
18:16 smrt haha yeah sure it's nothing fancy just a ton of jquery[…]ha/
18:17 caroline very cool!
18:18 caroline that is not currently possible with the latest version, but it's a very interesting feature
18:19 caroline are you in Winnipeg?
18:19 smrt hah thanks. and yeah its basically all done in opacuserjs and yup we are
18:20 caroline how the covid situation over there? I'm in Montreal and it's pretty bad since a couple of weeks
18:21 caroline thankfully my job is easy to do remotely and none of my family have been affected, so I consident myself very lucky
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18:21 caroline good morning davidnind!
18:22 smrt hah yeah i think we just passed you guys in per captia infections but I've been mostly working from home since this all started.
18:24 davidnind greetings from New Zealand caroline!
18:31 oleonard caroline: Almost as many new cases were reported in my state, Ohio, as were reported in your whole country yesterday :(
18:32 caroline yeah, it seems pretty bad in the US right now... and not just with the covid :/
18:32 caroline I hear almost more news from the US than news from here when I listen to the news (which is not often, because it's too depressing)
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18:33 tuxayo Does anyone know if the huge list of fields here makes sense?
18:33 tuxayo
18:33 oleonard I deliberately try to avoid the news and I still get too much.
18:34 tuxayo It's the ACQ framework of an install all by default.
18:34 oleonard That link didn't work tuxayo
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18:35 tuxayo oleonard: indeed!
18:36 caroline tuxayo: this is for MARC21 right?
18:36 tuxayo Yes
18:37 caroline this is the entire ACQ framwork?
18:37 caroline Or only the authors?
18:37 tuxayo MARC subfield structure admin for 100
18:38 tuxayo From basic knowledge of framework I would say yes.
18:39 caroline what is Siehe auch? (See also?)
18:39 tuxayo (just found out that the english translation was also enabled now I can understand the UI)
18:39 tuxayo caroline: yes!
18:39 caroline then yeah, see also is ok
18:42 tuxayo caroline: thanks, so it was just of effect of doing everything blindly regarding to the language ^^
18:42 tuxayo Now I know the feeling of non-english speakers when in a situation without translation at all.
18:43 caroline lol!
18:43 caroline I tested a swedish bug last week and forgot to switch back my opac.... I was reallly surprised when I opened it yesterday
18:45 tuxayo ^^
18:47 tuxayo First time trying the installer, it seems great. That also says something about it to be able to make a quick and dirty install basically without knowing how to read.
18:47 tuxayo (which undermines the relevance the use of an ILS and the library :P )
18:47 caroline lol!
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