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18:50 koha-jenkins  Project Koha_20.05_U20 build #100: UNSTABLE in 44 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_20.05_U20/100/
18:47 caroline      lol!
18:47 tuxayo        (which undermines the relevance the use of an ILS and the library :P )
18:47 tuxayo        First time trying the installer, it seems great. That also says something about it to be able to make a quick and dirty install basically without knowing how to read.
18:45 tuxayo        ^^
18:43 caroline      I tested a swedish bug last week and forgot to switch back my opac.... I was reallly surprised when I opened it yesterday
18:43 caroline      lol!
18:42 tuxayo        Now I know the feeling of non-english speakers when in a situation without translation at all.
18:42 tuxayo        caroline: thanks, so it was just of effect of doing everything blindly regarding to the language ^^
18:39 caroline      then yeah, see also is ok
18:39 tuxayo        caroline: yes!
18:39 tuxayo        (just found out that the english translation was also enabled now I can understand the UI)
18:39 caroline      what is Siehe auch? (See also?)
18:38 tuxayo        From basic knowledge of framework I would say yes.
18:37 tuxayo        MARC subfield structure admin for 100
18:37 caroline      Or only the authors?
18:37 caroline      this is the entire ACQ framwork?
18:36 tuxayo        Yes
18:36 caroline      tuxayo: this is for MARC21 right?
18:35 tuxayo        oleonard: indeed! https://pic.infini.fr/ar8l5wWx/GXuOcOzN.png
18:35 koha-jenkins  Project Koha_20.05_D9_My8 build #93: SUCCESS in 42 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_20.05_D9_My8/93/
18:34 koha-jenkins  Project Koha_20.05_D10 build #99: SUCCESS in 44 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_20.05_D10/99/
18:34 oleonard      That link didn't work tuxayo
18:34 tuxayo        It's the ACQ framework of an install all by default.
18:33 oleonard      I deliberately try to avoid the news and I still get too much.
18:33 tuxayo        https://pic.infini.fr/JHrci3To/UHx5YN5W.png
18:33 tuxayo        Does anyone know if the huge list of fields here makes sense?
18:33 koha-jenkins  Project Koha_20.05_U18 build #89: SUCCESS in 56 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_20.05_U18/89/
18:32 caroline      I hear almost more news from the US than news from here when I listen to the news (which is not often, because it's too depressing)
18:32 caroline      yeah, it seems pretty bad in the US right now... and not just with the covid :/
18:31 oleonard      caroline: Almost as many new cases were reported in my state, Ohio, as were reported in your whole country yesterday :(
18:24 davidnind     greetings from New Zealand caroline!
18:22 smrt          hah yeah i think we just passed you guys in per captia infections but I've been mostly working from home since this all started.
18:21 caroline      good morning davidnind!
18:21 caroline      thankfully my job is easy to do remotely and none of my family have been affected, so I consident myself very lucky
18:20 caroline      how the covid situation over there? I'm in Montreal and it's pretty bad since a couple of weeks
18:19 smrt          hah thanks. and yeah its basically all done in opacuserjs and yup we are
18:19 caroline      are you in Winnipeg?
18:18 caroline      that is not currently possible with the latest version, but it's a very interesting feature
18:17 caroline      very cool!
18:16 smrt          haha yeah sure it's nothing fancy just a ton of jquery https://mbcsc.edu.gov.mb.ca/cgi-bin/koha/opac-search.pl
18:15 caroline      smrt: can you share the link? I'm curious what it looks like
18:15 caroline      I wonder if it's doable now by limiting the itemtypecat authorised values by library
18:14 caroline      smrt: It's interesting
18:13 smrt          Well for one thing our production server is still on 3.16 so most of the "enhancements" have been fixed by 19.11. and I'm pretty sure they are changes only relevant to our library (grouping item types by branch in advanced search is one example that im pretty sure no one else needs)
18:06 koha-jenkins  Project Koha_20.05_U16 build #84: SUCCESS in 46 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_20.05_U16/84/
18:04 oleonard      ...assuming they're not changes which are only relevant to your library
18:04 oleonard      But if they are solutions you felt were necessary they could be filed as bugs to get a less hacky-ish fix.
18:04 smrt          "enhancements"
18:03 smrt          oh lolol im not sure anyone would want to use my enhancements they are very hacky-ish.
17:59 * tuxayo      tries to sneakingly recruit in order to double the Koha UI team
17:58 tuxayo        Are there by any chance enhancements or fixes that you have at your library but could benefit everyone?
17:58 tuxayo        smrt: the Bootstrap update came thanks to the work of oleonard :D . Help is very needed on UI stuff.
17:56 smrt          thanks everyone for the help and info
17:56 smrt          oh lol makes sense
17:52 koha-jenkins  Project Koha_20.05_D9 build #102: FIXED in 41 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_20.05_D9/102/
17:52 wahanui       Congratulations!
17:52 koha-jenkins  Yippee, build fixed!
17:50 koha-jenkins  Project Koha_20.05_D11 build #48: FIXED in 44 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_20.05_D11/48/
17:50 wahanui       Congratulations!
17:50 koha-jenkins  Yippee, build fixed!
17:48 oleonard      Currently the exact date is 2020-11-27, but that is subject to change.
17:47 oleonard      smrt: "20.11" means November 2020 :)
17:44 tuxayo        And I almost got locked outside due forgetting the credentials I elected ^^"
17:43 tuxayo        (I think I installed it, because I did the install in German, which I don't understand at all. It was for a German related patch)
17:42 tuxayo        yay finally installed Koha for the first time after 3 years working on it XD
17:42 tuxayo        «Gratulation, Sie haben den Prozess abgeschlossen und können nun Koha nutzen»
17:39 smrt          is there an ETA on it?
17:39 smrt          I've been fighting 2.3.1 for years. lol
17:39 smrt          oh thank god. i was wondering when an update was coming to bootstrap in koha.
17:38 oleonard      smrt I can reproduce that problem in 19.11 and 20.05. It will be fixed in 20.11 where a new version of Bootstrap is used.
17:38 smrt          And I just checked it on the Catalyst demo OPAC it's doing the same thing on 20.05. tabbing leaves the modal and cycles through the rest of the page after tabbing past the login button in the modal.
17:36 koha-jenkins  Project Koha_20.05_U20 build #99: SUCCESS in 51 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_20.05_U20/99/
17:35 smrt          19.11
17:34 oleonard      What version are you on smrt?
17:31 smrt          oh yeah that's fine but if you keep pressing tab past the last part of the modal it goes to what's behind the modal. if you go to the example modal section on bootstrap 2.3.1 tabbing stays within the modal no matter how many times you tab
17:29 oleonard      ...but I don't find that the keyboard focus moves behind the modal. In my test the focus goes first to the "X" button and then to the login field.
17:28 huginn        Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=26695 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , Set focus for cursor to login box on the login popup modal
17:28 oleonard      There is a bug filed just the other day: Bug 26695
17:25 tuxayo        To know if there is a regression of it it's a UX issue.
17:24 tuxayo        smrt: «login modal isn't focus trapped» Have your already seen it trapped?
17:19 koha-jenkins  Project Koha_20.05_D9_My8 build #92: SUCCESS in 49 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_20.05_D9_My8/92/
17:11 lukeG         Have a great weekend Koha! :)
17:11 koha-jenkins  Project Koha_20.05_D10 build #98: SUCCESS in 37 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_20.05_D10/98/
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16:45 koha-jenkins  Project Koha_20.05_U16 build #83: SUCCESS in 55 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_20.05_U16/83/
16:34 koha-jenkins  Project Koha_20.05_U20 build #98: SUCCESS in 37 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_20.05_U20/98/
16:30 koha-jenkins  Project Koha_20.05_D9 build #101: FAILURE in 2 min 24 sec: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_20.05_D9/101/
16:28 koha-jenkins  Project Koha_20.05_D10 build #97: ABORTED in 1 hr 3 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_20.05_D10/97/
16:20 koha-jenkins  Project Koha_20.05_D9_My8 build #91: FIXED in 48 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_20.05_D9_My8/91/
16:20 wahanui       Congratulations!
16:20 koha-jenkins  Yippee, build fixed!
16:15 smrt          hi is anyone else having the issue where the login modal isn't focus trapped? I checked the demo OPAC on biblibre (bywater's demo seems to in "testing") and when I try navigating with keyboard only, the focus jumps out of the modal and onto the links and buttons of the main page. or has this bug been reported? I can't seem to find it if it was.
15:56 koha-jenkins  Project Koha_20.05_D9 build #100: SUCCESS in 40 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_20.05_D9/100/
15:54 cait          and great job!
15:54 cait          have a nice weekend everyone!
15:54 cait          same for me for now I am afraid - will get busy with baking for a bit to reset the brain
15:53 cait          i just took a screenshot :)
15:49 koha-jenkins  Project Koha_Master_U20 build #121: FIXED in 55 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_U20/121/
15:49 wahanui       Congratulations!
15:49 koha-jenkins  Yippee, build fixed!
15:49 ashimema      have a good weekend #koha
15:49 ashimema      right.. on that note I think it's time for me to clock out
15:49 ashimema      down to 7!
15:36 * cait        needs a brain break
15:35 ashimema      I found the same oleonard
15:35 ashimema      hehe.
15:35 oleonard      This new "css_and_scss_in_sync" message from the QA tool makes my tests less satisfying
15:33 huginn        Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=26340 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, ivan.dziuba, Failed QA , When printing labels from a barcode range, keep zero padding
15:33 cait          could someone sanity check my comment on bug 26340?
15:31 koha-jenkins  Project Koha_20.05_D11 build #47: UNSTABLE in 44 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_20.05_D11/47/
15:30 huginn        Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=24083 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, andrew.isherwood, Signed Off , Koha should support "seen" vs "unseen" renewals
15:30 cait          kidclamp or khall: would you be able to help me with the SIP bit of the test plan on bug 24083?
15:24 koha-jenkins  Project Koha_20.05_U18 build #87: SUCCESS in 45 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_20.05_U18/87/
15:24 ashimema      sounds good to me cait
15:24 ashimema      :)
15:22 caroline      ashimema: cool, I'll keep it aside and see where it can fit in the manual
15:21 cait          switch a word in prefs and adding a hint on the library page, hopw they are agreeable :)
15:21 cait          i added 3 little follow-ups
15:20 ashimema      :D
15:20 cait          ;)
15:20 huginn        Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=22818 new feature, P5 - low, ---, andrew.isherwood, Passed QA , ILL should be able to send notices
15:20 cait          bug 22818
15:19 ashimema      it's that comment
15:19 huginn        Bug 24603: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Passed QA , Allow to cancel charges in patron accounting
15:19 ashimema      https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=24603#c20
15:18 ashimema      and at some point if oyu point me to an appropriate part of the manual to add it I'll happily do something for that
15:18 ashimema      I'll dig it out
15:18 caroline      ashimema: no I didn't
15:18 caroline      I'll check with marie-luce see if she has any ideas
15:17 caroline      hum... ok... I don't think we have a different word for it in French, which might create a confusion
15:17 ashimema      did you see the comment I wrote up for cait the other day trying to explain all the different system types as they currently stand?
15:17 ashimema      exactly
15:16 caroline      So the payout is the "physical" changing of hands of the money (like "payment" but the other way around) and "refund" is the credit type (like "fee" but the other way around)?
15:15 koha-jenkins  Project Koha_20.05_U20 build #97: SUCCESS in 37 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_20.05_U20/97/
15:15 ashimema      caroline.. does that all make sense?
15:14 ashimema      a payout is an oddity in the system in so much as it looks like a 'debit' on the patrons account because of the way the maths works
15:14 ashimema      man that makes it sound complicated.. but it's one of the route that may result in a payout
15:13 ashimema      patron gets an overdue fine -> patron returns item on closed day -> patron pays overdue fine in full -> staff backdates return -> oops, patron payed too much, system adds 'refund' credit to patrons account -> patron decides to leave the library forever -> librarian issues a 'payout' of the 'refund' credit that's on the patrons record.
15:12 ashimema      process wise
15:11 ashimema      how you are 'owed' that can come about in a few ways.... including a 'refund'
15:11 ashimema      so a payout is the literal handing over of cash from library to patron
15:11 ashimema      ok..
15:11 ashimema      hehe
15:05 caroline      oleonard lol!
15:04 caroline      hm... what is the difference between payout and refund?
15:04 oleonard      ashimema I hope you give covid a very poor rating. Zero out of five stars.
15:04 ashimema      brb.. got my covid survey to fill in
15:03 ashimema      thanks caroline
15:03 ashimema      good plan
15:03 caroline      I'm juste translating everything that has "Credit" because I don't see a difference between patch and no patch hehe
15:03 ashimema      :)
15:03 caroline      ok I'll use the word for reimbursement then
15:02 cait          i think probably most likely for a credit when they are leaving
15:02 ashimema      exactly
15:02 ashimema      yup
15:02 caroline      so like a reimbursement?
15:02 ashimema      payout is when the library pays the patron for something
15:02 cait          payout is the lirary giving the patron money
15:02 ashimema      payment is when a patron pays for something
15:02 caroline      Google translate gives me the same word in french...
15:02 cait          direction :)
15:02 caroline      what is the difference between a payout and a payment?
15:01 ashimema      sure
15:01 ashimema      yup.. they're a 20.05 thing
15:01 cait          would you mind doing a follow-up for the cancel patch?
15:01 cait          that's a relieve
15:01 cait          are they new with 20.05? gemran is complete as of 20.05 release... but every added or changed after would be missing right
15:01 ashimema      they're all there ready and waiting
15:01 cait          you mean the translations are missing in po files
15:01 cait          oh
15:01 cait          ashimema: not quite following - none of them translated doesn't sound so good
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14:49 ashimema      that might be a nice idea
14:49 ashimema      I could however split it out into it's own include.. to match that of the staff client
14:49 ashimema      the 'status' strings are however.
14:48 ashimema      I just installed fr-FR and none of the terms are translated yet.. but the code is there..
14:48 ashimema      cait
14:46 koha-jenkins  Project Koha_20.05_D9_My8 build #90: UNSTABLE in 49 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_20.05_D9_My8/90/
14:43 ashimema      :)
14:43 wahanui       cait: that doesn't look right
14:43 cait          hm change of plans - back to ill notices :)
14:38 cait          hi ivandz
14:38 wahanui       it has been said that probably is too hard.
14:38 ashimema      probably
14:38 ashimema      yup
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14:38 cait          !
14:38 cait          probably the cancel one nees another follow-pu then too-1
14:38 ashimema      I'll take a look
14:38 ashimema      hmm..
14:37 koha-jenkins  Project Koha_20.05_D9 build #99: FIXED in 40 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_20.05_D9/99/
14:37 wahanui       Congratulations!
14:37 koha-jenkins  Yippee, build fixed!
14:37 ashimema      account-table.inc
14:37 cait          but would be happy if you oculd have a look and prove me wrong about the bug (always am)
14:36 cait          maybe it WAS me
14:36 cait          i didn't find it when looking for the cancellation one
14:36 ashimema      hmm
14:36 ashimema      and I keep resyncing them
14:36 ashimema      there is such an include in the OPAC too
14:36 ashimema      that's really odd..
14:36 cait          maybe i am mistaken, but it didn't look good compared to staff yesterday
14:36 cait          i found it while testing the cancel feature
14:36 ashimema      really..
14:36 cait          i think this one is major because OPAC
14:35 huginn        Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=26697 major, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Types and descriptions of charges only show in English in the OPAC
14:35 cait          bug 26697
14:35 ashimema      just grep the codebase for manualinvoice
14:35 huginn        Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=22394 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, martin.renvoize, Needs Signoff , Remove C4::Accounts::manualinvoice
14:35 ashimema      also.. bug 22394 would be an easy SO for someone
14:35 cait          ashimema: i filed another last night
14:35 cait          oh great caroline
14:34 caroline      I,ll try to test
14:34 cait          i am going to the issues one then maybe can move on to those
14:34 ashimema      I also think they're simple enough you could just straight QA them personally...
14:34 cait          maybe you can steal from him?
14:34 ashimema      I think you're one of very very few people who 'get it' with regards those..
14:34 cait          oleonard has written some nice test plans for the message translation ones
14:34 cait          agree on wanting to see them move... have refrained from signing as I didn't want to make them stuck
14:33 ashimema      any tips cait?
14:33 ashimema      problem is.. as much as I understand how to fix them.. I'm struggling to write a meaningful test plan
14:32 huginn        Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=25596 normal, P5 - low, ---, martin.renvoize, Needs Signoff , "Overpayment refund" is not translatable
14:32 huginn        Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=26398 normal, P5 - low, ---, martin.renvoize, Needs Signoff , Credit and Debit types on creating a manual credits and manual invoices are not translatable
14:32 ashimema      bug 26398 and bug 25596 would be nice ot see move
14:30 cait          please go on :)
14:30 ashimema      coulnd't help myself
14:30 cait          ah cool
14:30 ashimema      mm
14:30 cait          i am on 24083 now
14:30 huginn        Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=26597 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, maryse.simard, Signed Off , Transfer information from guarantor when adding a guarantor to an existing patron
14:30 * ashimema    is looking at bug 26597 at the moment
14:29 cait          not dependency linkd
14:29 cait          they actually look to be quite separte on first glance - the other 2 guarnator ones
14:28 huginn        Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=26598 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, maryse.simard, Signed Off , Display guarantee's fines on guarantor's details page
14:28 cait          khall: could you take on bug 26598?
14:27 oleonard      Getting ready to submit a patch right now :D
14:27 ashimema      we should tag a bunch of easy bugs for the workshops next week
14:27 ashimema      ready to fill it back up oleonard?
14:26 oleonard      QA++
14:10 ashimema      so.. I reckon it's time for me to go back to working no my transfers bugs.
14:10 ashimema      I'm locked out of 3 remaining ones.. and I think a the guarantors ones are partially waiting on feedback for one of the other guarantor ones that just failed.. and I'm waiting for the go again from khall on barcode plugin hooks..
14:09 ashimema      down to 8 cait
13:53 ashimema      but I think I prefer the start
13:53 ashimema      that or a padlock I wondered
13:52 ashimema      that could work
13:52 ashimema      yeay.. and I'm back to half as good as cait :)
13:51 oleonard      Maybe this for superlibrarian? https://fontawesome.com/v4.7.0/icon/star
13:51 ashimema      lol
13:51 * oleonard    tries to picture the NSO queue at 10 and fails
13:51 ashimema      we're at 10!
13:50 ashimema      done
13:49 ashimema      hehe..
13:48 oleonard      Hehe... https://fontawesome.com/v4.7.0/icon/bomb
13:48 oleonard      I think that's a good point which I didn't consider. My instinct is to look for a different icon but I don't know if there's something appropriate
13:47 ashimema      1 bugs to go and I've hit caits 10 target
13:45 cait          and hi lukeG :)
13:45 cait          bbiab
13:45 ashimema      what do you think oleonard.. achievable?
13:45 lukeG         morning Koha!
13:45 ashimema      perhaps we could add a pattern to the background for it?
13:45 cait          color + some other visual clue
13:45 ashimema      indeed
13:44 cait          for information
13:44 cait          hm i think rule is you shoul not use color only
13:44 ashimema      but I'm not entirely sure how color blind friendly it is..
13:44 ashimema      I wasn't going to fail it on that.. I like it..
13:44 ashimema      any thoughts from the accessability front regarding the red icon to denote superlibrarian
13:43 ashimema      hehe
13:43 cait          that could maybe owrk
13:43 cait          i thin they just did the Koha K
13:43 cait          remember chris superlibraian cape?
13:43 cait          true
13:42 oleonard      Also, these icons are pushing the limits of what can be defined as an icon :/
13:42 ashimema      hehe
13:42 ashimema      :)
13:42 ashimema      I've unleashed a storm of icons!
13:42 cait          ok... i better really find food now
13:42 cait          dev and qa relationship? https://www.iconfinder.com/icons/2571773/strength_superhero_power_fight_compete_fireball_superpower_icon
13:41 cait          grumpy cait https://www.iconfinder.com/icons/2571782/mutant_laser_power_eye_powerful_attack_superhero_icon
13:41 cait          hm yeah that one too heh
13:41 ashimema      love it
13:41 ashimema      hehehe
13:41 oleonard      https://www.iconfinder.com/icons/2654895/exhausted_superman_superhero_overwork_tired_icon
13:40 cait          https://www.iconfinder.com/icons/2655316/flying_superwoman_superhero_icon :)
13:39 cait          male person tearing clothes off might also lead to misunderstandings...
13:39 cait          doesn't work for me :)
13:37 ashimema      https://www.iconfinder.com/icons/2654894/tearing_shirt_superhero_clark_kent_change_superman_icon
13:37 huginn        Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=26706 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , Fix btn-default styling for better contrast
13:37 cait          bug 26706
13:36 ashimema      I so want a superhero icon now
13:35 cait          so... 2 bugs
13:35 oleonard      Both: btn-default is the wrong class in this template. But btn-default is supposed to work.
13:34 cait          just not sure if i should file it for ILL for for a specific button type
13:34 cait          hm might be a separate report either way
13:34 cait          oleonard: not sure what the recommendation was now - should we file a separate report or fix in template?
13:34 * oleonard    needs to do more testing of ILL in the OPAC
13:33 cait          :)
13:33 cait          yeah, but i need tofind some late breakfast first
13:33 ashimema      12 bugs to go cait :)
13:33 cait          viewing your requests in opac
13:32 ashimema      thanks
13:32 cait          for ILL, but not part of the backend
13:32 ashimema      okies
13:32 cait          ah yes, that's stnadard opac template
13:32 oleonard      It's Koha
13:31 ashimema      I wonder if that's Koha side or Backend side
13:31 cait          so ...
13:31 ashimema      hmm
13:31 oleonard      Since it's a submit button I'd change "btn-default" to "btn-primary," but it should be considered a general bug that input:submit.btn-default has black text.
13:31 cait          https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/attachment.cgi?id=111874
13:27 cait          working on it
13:27 cait          <input type="submit" class="update-illrequest btn btn-default" value="Submit modifications">
13:27 wahanui       it has been said that screenshot is frenched and there is a not about having used a translator
13:27 ashimema      screenshot ?
13:26 cait          http://localhost:8080/cgi-bin/koha/opac-illrequests.pl?method=view&illrequest_id=32
13:26 cait          you'd need to have ILL configured
13:26 oleonard      Where do you see it?
13:26 cait          do we already have a standard fix for that? should they be a specific different color?
13:25 cait          oleonard: i was just testing the ill notices bug and noticed a button dark grey with black writing (bootstrap)
13:11 ashimema      TimothyAlexis still around?
13:08 cait          i'd love to see those go in - they already put a lot of work into it with lots of changes needed we we changed the underlying code
13:07 cait          khall++ thx for taking the guarantor ones
12:31 magnuse       \o/
12:29 * khall       waves
12:28 * cait        waves at khall
11:54 cait          come and get them!
11:53 cait          I am so happy about all the "fresh" patches in QA queue
11:53 cait          *sends cookies to everyone*
11:53 cait          :)
11:17 oleonard      :D
11:16 cait          sometimes... i wish i could see your face, but it might not be telling me anything...
11:16 oleonard      Oh cool I love giving my opinion
11:16 cait          :)
11:16 huginn        Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=23823 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, helix84, Signed Off , Allow system preferences to be bookmarked
11:16 cait          oleonard: i see your opinion was requested on bug 23823
11:15 tcohen        kohaputti I haven't
11:15 tcohen        morning
11:14 cait          hi oleonard :)
11:12 oleonard      Hi all
10:44 huginn        Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=21366 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, ASSIGNED , add plack reload
10:44 kohaputti     tcohen, have you started the work on bug 21366 ? If not I might be interested to take on the task, although maybe after week or two, not right now.
10:36 cait          ah ok i see :)
10:36 magnuse       (he placed #1 in europe and 3# in the world last time)
10:35 magnuse       dunno, the norwegian participant is from bodø and seems very set on winning ;-)
10:34 cait          who is winning?
10:32 magnuse       yeah, it's in norwegian, i thought it was english
10:31 cait          magnuse: the comment is kinda hard to understand
10:31 cait          magnuse: watched 5 secons and now i am hungry
10:29 vfernandes    how we can improve the XSLT processing of a giant record (more than 1000 items)?
10:27 magnuse       qateam++
10:27 magnuse       cait: here's the live feed https://vimeo.com/event/289526/embed
10:27 cait          leaves 12 others! :)
10:26 ashimema      and I'm blocked from at least 4
10:26 cait          i certainly need some help there
10:26 cait          yes i know
10:26 ashimema      there's some challenging ones in that queue cait
10:26 magnuse       the olympics of cooking
10:24 cait          ... the.. what?
10:22 * magnuse     expects everyone is watching the european final of the bocuse d'or
10:17 cait          looks like i missed marcelr already?
10:17 cait          but I'd also like to get the QA queue below 10 today...
10:17 cait          ashimema:  you still have another week to throw things at me basically :)
10:16 cait          yay :)
10:15 ashimema      it's another area I was really hoping to get done.. been trying to get that darn 'Transfers to send' report into community for ages
10:15 severine_q    hi Cait :)
10:14 ashimema      I have a feeling it's a bit late for my transfers tree this cycle.. wondering whether it's worth continuing there or waiting
10:14 ashimema      right.. now what should I do today
10:13 ashimema      :)
10:12 magnuse       \o/
10:12 ashimema      hi cait
10:10 cait          noone here?
09:58 * cait        waves
09:29 ashimema      indeed
09:28 magnuse       ...as inactive?
09:28 magnuse       ashimema: hope i responded in the right place? maybe remove or mark the inactive one?
09:24 TimothyAlexis Thanks guys :D
09:18 TimothyAlexis ashimema++
09:18 TimothyAlexis fridolin++
09:17 ashimema      nice
09:15 TimothyAlexis We changed the positioning to % instead of px, so that it would resize with window width.
09:14 TimothyAlexis We're using that plugin :)
09:06 fridolin      TimothyAlexis: look also at https://inlibro.com/en/carousel-instructions/
09:04 TimothyAlexis magnuse we will use the status to set it manually when books are put on a display shelf in one of our libraries.
09:03 ashimema      I did eventually and I've now moved it to the active repository and asked you a question ;)
09:02 ashimema      I found what I was looking for in the end magnuse.. I was sure you'd created an issue for koha-dashboard but I couldn't for the life of me find it
09:00 fridolin      magnuse++
09:00 fridolin      to view a list with new items, you can create a link on a search sorting by date of acquisition
08:59 magnuse       why not just use the dateaccessioned or something like that and say the x most recent ones are new?
08:57 fridolin      ahhhhh
08:57 fridolin      "To display new items on the first page or to view a list with new items."
08:57 fridolin      you will have to manually unset then
08:57 magnuse       ashimema: am now
08:57 fridolin      but you may create an item type "new" for biblio records
08:56 fridolin      TimothyAlexis: ah heu this feature is for items
08:53 ashimema      hmm.. my Kohacon email went into spam.. check your spam boxes peeps.. else you might miss the links
08:47 TimothyAlexis we don't import items with marc
08:42 ashimema      it's reasonably elegant when you think about it.
08:41 fridolin      delete the subfield to unset item "is new"
08:40 fridolin      define default value 1 in framework so that any item created gets is new = 1
08:40 fridolin      TimothyAlexis: in order to catalog a value when creating items, any value means "is new"
08:37 TimothyAlexis Why? :\
08:37 TimothyAlexis fridolin: "you need to set a Koha to marc mapping link with an item subfield"
08:36 fridolin      maybe dig into bugzilla
08:36 fridolin      i'm not at the origin of this dev
08:35 ashimema      hehe
08:35 fridolin      heuuuu
08:35 ashimema      nice little flow there.. is it documented anywhere?
08:35 fridolin      TimothyAlexis: see cron misc/cronjobs/automatic_item_modification_by_age.pl
08:35 ashimema      aha.. I see
08:34 fridolin      to un-new after a few days
08:34 fridolin      and then use Tools ›                      Automatic item modifications by age
08:34 ashimema      oh.. so it's maintained at a cataloguing level?
08:33 fridolin      like 952$B
08:33 fridolin      TimothyAlexis: ah you need to set a Koha to marc mapping link with an item subfield
08:33 fridolin      https://www.w3schools.com/Sql/func_mysql_coalesce.asp
08:32 TimothyAlexis fridolin do you know when the status is set and unset? Because all our items have this set as NULL
08:31 fridolin      26032 is not ready yet, ISNULL() is a mysqlism
08:29 ashimema      I have no idea what sets and unsets the new status..
08:27 ashimema      ooh.. nice
08:26 huginn        Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=26032 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, fridolin.somers, Needs Signoff , Add 'is new' filter in items search
08:26 TimothyAlexis bug 26032
08:25 ashimema      as I say.. I'm not really sure.. have a bit fo a play :)
08:25 ashimema      sounds like a reasonable idea
08:19 TimothyAlexis I'm thinking if datelastseen = dateaccessioned the book could be considered new.
08:19 TimothyAlexis Yeah I noticed that new_status too.
08:15 ashimema      and dateaccessioned?
08:15 ashimema      there's a new_status field in the table.. no idea what it's used for however
08:13 ashimema      https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_Plugin_Hooks
08:13 TimothyAlexis To display new items on the first page or to view a list with new items.
08:12 ashimema      I believe there are plugin hooks on the biblio/item creation routines now.. so you might be able to use that to catch new items?
08:12 ashimema      what are you wanting to achieve?
08:12 ashimema      still fairly early.. some other folk may pop in soon and know the answer
08:11 ashimema      erm.. pass I'm afraid
08:09 TimothyAlexis Or rather, is there a way to distinguish an item as 'new'?
07:59 ashimema      magnuse around?
07:59 TimothyAlexis Is there a way to distinguish a biblio as 'new'?
07:56 ashimema      me just misread that.. 32 would have been double..
07:55 * ashimema    thinks cait was targetting 42 QA's just to get exactly double me
07:35 ashimema      I used a quick script and those running from command line to understand it myself
07:35 ashimema      dbic_trace and dbic_trace_profile will probably be your friends when testing auto_savepoints marcelr
07:01 alex_a        Hello marcelr \o
07:01 marcelr       hi ashimema alex_a
06:53 alex_a        Bonjour
06:52 ashimema[m]   Mornin' #koha
06:45 ashimema[m]   Koha is moving a pace at the minute..
06:37 severine_q    hi marcelr :)
06:36 marcelr       hi severine_q
06:31 severine_q    morning #koha !
06:19 marcelr       hi #koha
06:12 TimothyAlexis I fixed it. :)
05:30 TimothyAlexis es_1         | [2020-10-16T05:29:35,250][INFO ][o.e.x.m.p.NativeController] [fZSohqk] Native controller process has stopped - no new native processes can be started koha_es_1 exited with code 78
05:23 TimothyAlexis Today I have a similar problem again.
05:22 TimothyAlexis This worked.
05:22 TimothyAlexis Yesterday I had problems wtih koha-testing-docker. ashimema helped with 'docker system prune -af', after which everything was downloaded again when starting with 'ku'.
03:12 huginn        dcook: The operation succeeded.
03:12 dcook         @later tell Joubu Apologies if it looks like I've been ignoring your emails. Our mail server appears to have been marking them as spam. Will look at remedying that...
02:14 shaffendi     thanks guys
02:14 shaffendi     ya it works after server restart
01:26 * oleonard    disappears again
01:24 shaffendi     wait i try on 2nd server
01:24 shaffendi     wonder why just restart web server is not enough
01:23 shaffendi     i just got that plugin enable after restart the server
01:23 shaffendi     elonard
01:22 shaffendi     ah
01:22 shaffendi     af
01:21 oleonard      shaffendi I don't know much about it but I'm curious if you navigate to /cgi-bin/koha/plugins/plugins-home.pl if it works
01:17 shaffendi     No system preferences matched your search for: UseKohaPlugins
01:14 shaffendi     Koha version:	20.05.04.000
01:13 shaffendi     i tried to 2 of my koha server but both came out same result
01:12 shaffendi     could*
01:12 shaffendi     cound anyone help me what i did wrong here?
01:12 shaffendi     then i restart apache and memcahche
01:11 shaffendi     first i edit koha-conf.xml and change 0 value to 1
01:10 shaffendi     hi everyone. i tried to enable plugin in koha but after that i cant find UseKohaPlugins in system preference. i used koha ver 20.05 on debian 9
01:01 huginn        Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=26702 minor, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Needs Signoff , Remove explicit libnet-stomp-perl from debian/control.in
01:01 dcook         mtj: Bug 26702 for removing libnet-stomp-perl from debian/control.in
00:55 dcook         Wow TIL that we actually do still have Schedule::At in Koha..
00:40 huginn        Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=26048 normal, P5 - low, ---, dcook, NEW , Apache does not use /cgi-bin/koha/errors/500.pl if Perl script dies
00:40 dcook         Phew
00:40 dcook         Ahhh bug 26048
00:39 dcook         I'm going crazy... I know I looked into why Plack shows a terrible "Internal Server Error" page... but can't remember now
00:39 dcook         Thanks ashimema[m]
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