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alexbuckley |
thank you davidnind for testing bugs 25460 and 26589 the other day! davidnind++ |
| 05:39 |
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davidnind |
no problem! |
| 05:39 |
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alexbuckley |
:) |
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ashimema[m] |
Good morning |
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* ashimema[m] |
sends dcook cookies |
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dcook |
Morning :) |
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dcook |
Why do I get cookies? |
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dcook |
lol |
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dcook |
other david |
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dcook |
Makes waaaaay more sense |
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dcook |
Wait.. |
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dcook |
No dcook |
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dcook |
I'm so lost |
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dcook |
davidnind++ |
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ashimema[m] |
davidnind++ #mr SO machine |
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dcook |
Thanks for signing off my patch yesterday heh |
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ashimema[m] |
Just read your Facebook from two hours ago and though you could do with a more positive interaction dcook :) |
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dcook |
I just saw your comment heh |
| 05:53 |
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dcook |
And cheers :) |
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dcook |
Much appreciated |
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ashimema[m] |
Nice to see you sign up for QA team btw |
| 05:53 |
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ashimema[m] |
Welcome aboard |
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dcook |
I have to say though Linus gives me a run for my money in terms of length and verbosity of messages.. |
| 05:53 |
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dcook |
And thanks :) |
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ashimema[m] |
Pooh, what did Linus do now.. assuming your talking about The Linus |
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dcook |
Oh, just saying how anyone who uses the sched_yield syscall is basically the worst |
| 05:55 |
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dcook |
I don't do enough low level programming to know if he's being overly harsh or on point though heh |
| 05:55 |
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ashimema[m] |
I think you mix in way more technical circles than me at times.. I'm focused back down to Koha possibly a bit too much at the minute.. I should re-broaden my coding really.. bit I love the friendly community here |
| 05:55 |
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dcook |
And an Erlang programmer having a go at someone for asking a question |
| 05:55 |
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dcook |
The friendly community here is the best |
| 05:56 |
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ashimema[m] |
Erlang is hard.. I'd be asking lots of questions if I tried Erlang again |
| 05:56 |
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dcook |
A few months ago, I saw some rather bigoted things on listservs (not Koha of course) and it just had me shaking my head |
| 05:56 |
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dcook |
I'm mostly looking at a few concerns people have about RabbitMQ and its CPU usage |
| 05:56 |
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dcook |
and it seems like it comes at least partially from busy waiting/spinning.. |
| 05:57 |
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dcook |
Which I get in concept but in practice... not so much |
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ashimema[m] |
I'm still keen to try and do a Koha lite or whatever we decided to call it |
| 05:57 |
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dcook |
I can't remember what we decided either heh |
| 05:57 |
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dcook |
Isn't that the way.. |
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ashimema[m] |
But I'm not sure how to approach it.. needs some funding really |
| 05:58 |
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dcook |
Well, my first go at a Koha lite would just be with fewer required dependencies |
| 05:58 |
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dcook |
And then slowly decomposing things to be lighter and ligheter |
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dcook |
lighter* |
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ashimema[m] |
I'm sure there are some me lighter weight alternatives to RabbitMQ and Elastic out there that could give us 90% of what we need for the average users |
| 05:58 |
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ashimema[m] |
Yeah |
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dcook |
Yeah, I've been thinking about that a bit lately |
| 05:58 |
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ashimema[m] |
Decomposing would be great for everyone |
| 05:59 |
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dcook |
I'd be curious to see how the further move to Mojolicious will go too |
| 05:59 |
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dcook |
Julian was saying he was getting great performance with hypnotoad even for static assets |
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ashimema[m] |
But I don't think it's a priority for any businesses here unfortunately.. |
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dcook |
(That led me down another rabbit hole of comparing major web servers and their sendfile(2) syscall support heh) |
| 05:59 |
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dcook |
Yeah, true enough |
| 06:00 |
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dcook |
It's more a professional interest of mine than a business one.. |
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ashimema[m] |
Wonder if there are any grants out there that could help keep Koha runnable for poorer nations |
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dcook |
Hmm good question |
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ashimema[m] |
Totally.. personal and professional interest.. but I already don't have enough hours in the day to follow those |
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ashimema[m] |
:( |
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dcook |
Saaame |
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ashimema[m] |
With a grant I feel like I could give up some of the day job and focus on those more altruistic concerns like this |
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ashimema[m] |
Mojo is another area I'd really like to help move forward.. |
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dcook |
I am planning to play more with Mojo |
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dcook |
I messed around with Mojo::IOLoop a little while ago and would like to look at that again |
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ashimema[m] |
Mojo is cool.. I'm really glad I got to code something's Ng fresh and new with it before looking at it from a Koha perspective though.. |
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dcook |
Hehe I bet |
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dcook |
I was doing some OpenAPI work with Perl the other day but couldn't use Mojolicious... not fun |
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dcook |
In the end, I actually just used the OpenAPI spec to document it and didn't bother with any autogenerated code.. |
| 06:07 |
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ashimema[m] |
Koha is awesome but it has one heck of a legacy and momentum which makes it really hard to make the most of newer technologies |
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dcook |
Mojo::IOLoop was interesting. Very minimal interface |
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dcook |
Yeah, it's what... 20 years old now? |
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dcook |
Definitely makes it tough to modernize.. |
| 06:09 |
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dcook |
Huh... TIL that VMware apparently own RabbitMQ |
| 06:09 |
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dcook |
Don't know why I didn't notice that before |
| 06:09 |
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dcook |
I mean fortunately since we're using Net::Stomp for the connections, we can always sub in a different MQ |
| 06:10 |
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dcook |
(Although I think we do some RabbitMQ-specific stuff for it) |
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ashimema[m] |
I've not looked at our us of RabbitMQ in detail yet.. I took a step back when I saw people more knowledgeable sounding than me looking at it.. |
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ashimema[m] |
Was more than happy to bow out as it's not an area I'm all that familiar with at the moment |
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dcook |
I'm pretty happy with RabbitMQ overall |
| 06:23 |
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dcook |
Although the concerns that people have raised intrigue me |
| 06:24 |
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dcook |
Basically, RabbitMQ using a small amount of CPU constantly even when it's not processing any messages |
| 06:25 |
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dcook |
According to the RabbitMQ docs, this is due to "busy waiting", which they say you can turn off, but doing so only seems to partially achieve the goal |
| 06:25 |
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dcook |
They say RabbitMQ will sleep the schedulers, but I don't see any actual evidence of that |
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dcook |
Of course, I'm not too worried about 1% CPU usage |
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dcook |
But it's just interesting technically speaking |
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dcook |
So yeah... looked at the Erlang runtime to see if there was anything obvious.. |
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dcook |
I think Golang is supposed to have some busy wait too, although I haven't seen it in practice yet. I think I've only seen it actually sleep when it had no work to do.. |
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dcook |
I just wish I'd make some blog entries so I'd keep records of my deep dives lol |
| 06:33 |
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dcook |
Of course, now it's the end of my work day, and I don't really feel like working on technical things... heh |
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dcook |
Anyway, have a good day ashimema[m] and all |
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dcook |
And thanks for the cookies ;) |
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reiveune |
hello |
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fridolin |
hi |
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wahanui |
hi, fridolin |
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alex_a |
Bonjour |
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wahanui |
que tal, alex_a |
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ashimema[m] |
Sorry, got caught in the rush to get kids ready for school |
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ashimema[m] |
Reading back now |
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ashimema[m] |
is there a reason 19.05_D8 is disabled? |
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ashimema[m] |
on Jenkins that is |
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henryb |
I was looking at the 21.05 roles and wondered if there was space for a new role for someone to focus on accessibility |
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henryb |
e.g. test from an accessibility perspective, update accessibility guidance and documentation, generally promote accessibility issues and file new bugs |
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henryb |
A bit like the topic expert but without any extra QA points |
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henryb |
I think it would be a great signal that we value accessibility |
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henryb |
And an excuse/opportunity for someone to develop expertise |
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henryb |
I guess the role would vary depending on the person's skillset and experience |
| 10:12 |
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henryb |
does anyone have any thoughts? And if you think it's a good idea how do we go about adding a role? |
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kohaputti |
It should be included to the QA process imho |
| 10:12 |
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kohaputti |
but also pre-existing bugs should be filed |
| 10:14 |
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kohaputti |
so I suggest we add some instructions for the qa team regarding this in https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/How_to_QA in the section "What to look for" |
| 10:16 |
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kohaputti |
Also probably for the relevant parts it should be in the Coding guidelines (https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]oding_Guidelines) |
| 10:19 |
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henryb |
Yes, I absolutely agree. But I thought that if there was someone (or more than one person?) who had accessibility in their role then they might be more likely to prioritise accessibility and update the instructions |
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oleonard |
henryb are you interested in taking that position? |
| 10:24 |
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henryb |
Possibly if nobody else wanted it although I'm sure there are other people much more qualified! |
| 10:25 |
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vfernandes |
Can someone help me with a koha dev question? I'm trying to expand a Koha .pm file but i'm getting this error: "Template process failed: undef error - The method test is not covered by tests! at /KEEPS/koha/lib/C4/Templates.pm" |
| 10:26 |
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oleonard |
henryb it's the kind of role that can be self-created if you'd like to see it happen. I think it's a great idea. |
| 10:26 |
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kidclamp |
vfernandes, what files did you edit? |
| 10:27 |
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Joubu |
vfernandes: did you restart plack? |
| 10:28 |
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oleonard |
henryb having "official" recognition of the role might be useful if there was disagreement about the worthiness of the task, but I don't think there is. |
| 10:30 |
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oleonard |
henryb: On the other hand, if "official" recognition of the role helped you get the time and resources in your "day job," then we can give you a title and an official badge if necessary :D |
| 10:31 |
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vfernandes |
lib/Koha/Patron/Attribute/Type.pm |
| 10:31 |
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vfernandes |
the error appears after restarting pack |
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kohaputti |
oleonard, henryb yup, I think it is just important that somebody is interested doing the instructions and filing pre-existing bugs for this, whether there is separate role for this or not I don't think matters but I wouldn't be against having designated person for this |
| 10:32 |
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kohaputti |
(there just needs to be a volunteer to do this work) |
| 10:33 |
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kidclamp |
vfernandes: are you running kohadevbox? or koha testing docker? |
| 10:33 |
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kidclamp |
generally in dev you aren't editing the lib/ files directly, but the ones in the kohaclone |
| 10:33 |
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vfernandes |
i'm using a custom installation |
| 10:35 |
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ashimema[m] |
I love the idea of someone focusing on accessability henryb :) |
| 10:36 |
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ashimema[m] |
even if it ends up a temporary role that only exists for a few cycles.. having someone concentrate on working through adding suitable guidelines and documenting our shortcomings on that front would be fantastic. |
| 10:36 |
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kidclamp |
vfernandes, restart plack AND memcached? |
| 10:37 |
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ashimema[m] |
I know there's a real push for more accessability aware stuff at the moment.. obviously here in the UK, but I'm also aware of a few projects more widely in europe too.. would be great to have someone take the lead on helping to bring attention to those bugs and adding guidlines around them.. |
| 10:37 |
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vfernandes |
ohhh my bad... I put the method test in lib/Koha/Patron/Attribute/Types.pm instead of lib/Koha/Patron/Attribute/Types.pm :D |
| 10:38 |
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vfernandes |
*instead of lib/Koha/Patron/Attribute/Type.pm |
| 10:38 |
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ashimema[m] |
henryb++.. assuming you have a wiki account, feel free to stick a new role in and write a little proposal for it.. we can vote as a community to ratify it (and I'm yet to see a role like this turned down) |
| 10:39 |
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ashimema[m] |
ah yes.. that would do it vfernandes :) |
| 10:40 |
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kidclamp |
heh |
| 10:42 |
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ashimema[m] |
fridolin++ |
| 10:43 |
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ashimema[m] |
unicorns++ |
| 10:46 |
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henryb |
Ok thanks for the comments and encouragement, I will add something to the wiki |
| 10:47 |
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ashimema[m] |
let me know if you need a hand with anything |
| 10:49 |
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ashimema[m] |
https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]i/Roles_for_20.11 (there's an example of writing a proposal on there for Jonathan D as RM.. something similar for what you would like to see the role take on would be perfect) |
| 10:50 |
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ashimema[m] |
or you could add the proposal for role to https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]iki/Project_roles and we can help flesh it out at a later date :) |
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koha-jenkins |
Project Koha_19.05_D8 build #260: SUCCESS in 41 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]oha_19.05_D8/260/ |
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koha-jenkins |
Project Koha_19.05_D8 build #261: SUCCESS in 32 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]oha_19.05_D8/261/ |
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tcohen |
morning |
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kidclamp |
ok guys, no one touch the holds code anymore from now on everyone must accept it as is |
| 12:35 |
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kidclamp |
:-P |
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Joubu |
deal |
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ashimema[m] |
wha |
| 12:40 |
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ashimema[m] |
morning |
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ashimema[m] |
well.. afternoon here.. but morning for you tcohen |
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ashimema[m] |
;P |
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tcohen |
late morning actually :-D |
| 12:55 |
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tcohen |
it takes me almost an hour to pick the nanny as there's no public transportation |
| 12:56 |
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tcohen |
kidclamp at least allow to push bug 25260 |
| 12:56 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=25260 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Needs Signoff , Merge 'reserves' and 'old_reserves' into a new 'holds' table |
| 12:56 |
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tcohen |
it is tiny :-P |
| 12:56 |
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kidclamp |
couldn't affect a thing :-P |
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ashimema[m] |
lol |
| 12:59 |
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tcohen |
I must admit I got surprised how easy was switching things into using the new table |
| 12:59 |
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tcohen |
I expected many things to explode, and it was just a bunch of edge cases that had regression tests |
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* ashimema[m] |
likes that bug |
| 13:00 |
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ashimema[m] |
did I not sign it off already.. |
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ashimema[m] |
oops |
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tony |
Can someone tell me why I'm getting a Internal Server Error when in the admin area and trying to open 'about koha' --- BTW Everything else works perfect --- I'm using Koha 20 |
| 13:23 |
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tcohen |
what do the logs say? |
| 13:24 |
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tcohen |
tail -f /var/log/koha/<instance>/plack-error.log |
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tony |
tcohen -- tks for responding, the log sez: Use of uninitialized value $query in pattern match (m//) at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Search.pm line 1296. Use of uninitialized value $query in pattern match (m//) at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Search.pm line 1297. Use of uninitialized value $query in pattern match (m//) at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Search.pm line 1306. Use of uninitialized value $query in pattern match (m//) at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Search |
| 13:37 |
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tcohen |
those are harmless warnings |
| 13:37 |
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tcohen |
keep the command running (tail -f) |
| 13:38 |
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tcohen |
and reload the interface to trigger the error |
| 13:38 |
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tony |
I understand however I can initialize any of the 'perl' if I can't see what's there |
| 13:38 |
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Joubu |
I would tail -f on the whole /var/log/koha/<instance>/*.log |
| 13:46 |
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tcohen |
ah, plack-intranet-error.log? |
| 13:46 |
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tcohen |
what Joubu said |
| 13:48 |
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tony |
Thank you both -- I had to run perl -MCPAN -e 'install Bundle::KohaSupport' and now it is working --- tks again |
| 13:49 |
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tcohen |
Oh |
| 13:49 |
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tcohen |
So a plugin was breaking Koha? |
| 13:50 |
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tcohen |
are you sure you're using Koha 20.05? |
| 13:50 |
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tcohen |
that library dates back to 2008 |
| 13:52 |
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Joubu |
FYI all: Dev meeting in less than 10min |
| 13:53 |
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tony |
Yes I'm sure another reason to get into the About Koha |
| 13:53 |
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Joubu |
tony: you should not need that, really :) Something else is going wrong |
| 13:54 |
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tony |
Hmmmmm well it is still running so I should see the results soon |
| 13:54 |
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tcohen |
how did you install tony? |
| 13:54 |
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Joubu |
it installs some modules, you are certainly missing one |
| 13:54 |
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tcohen |
how did you install Koha I mean |
| 13:55 |
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tony |
I installed via the web installation |
| 13:55 |
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tcohen |
yes, but did you apt install koha-common? |
| 13:55 |
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tony |
I'm running it on Ubuntu 16.04 so it might be something that is within that version |
| 13:55 |
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tcohen |
https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]ki/Koha_on_Debian |
| 13:56 |
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tcohen |
Ah, that Ubuntu version is not supported by Koha 20.05 |
| 13:56 |
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tcohen |
https://koha-community.org/koha-20-05-released/ |
| 13:57 |
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Joubu |
I may work actually |
| 13:57 |
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Joubu |
At least our CI is green |
| 13:57 |
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tony |
It shows on the site that it is still good for 20 |
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tcohen |
but it might have dependency issues |
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Joubu |
I think mtj fixed that |
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tcohen |
then why is tony having deps issues he |
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tcohen |
ok |
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tony |
That is just what I'm thinking since this version of Ubuntu is old |
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Joubu |
but yeah, if you are starting from scratch you should prefer Ubuntu 18 or 20 |
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tony |
Well that is what I should have upgraded to but the client was pressuring so much I just kept it on 16 |
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tony |
It is showing me that I have some XML issues going on |
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tcohen |
tony, we have a dev meeting right now |
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tcohen |
lets talk a bit later |
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tony |
Got it |
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Joubu |
#startmeeting Development IRC meeting 7 October 2020 |
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huginn |
Meeting started Wed Oct 7 14:01:31 2020 UTC. The chair is Joubu. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. |
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huginn |
Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. |
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Topic for #koha is now (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting 7 October 2020) |
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huginn |
The meeting name has been set to 'development_irc_meeting_7_october_2020' |
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Joubu |
#topic Introductions |
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Topic for #koha is now Introductions (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting 7 October 2020) |
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Joubu |
#info Jonathan Druart |
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Joubu |
qa_team? |
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wahanui |
i think qa_team is cait Joubu marcelr kohaputti josef_moravec tcohen kidclamp khall ashimema alex_a jajm matts |
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Joubu |
rmaints? |
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wahanui |
rmaints is lukeG, aleisha, and tuxayo, I SUMMON THEE!!âš¡âš¡ |
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ashimema[m] |
#info Martin Renvoize, PTFS Europe |
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tcohen |
#info Tomas Cohen Arazi, Theke Solutions |
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jajm |
#info Julian Maurice, BibLibre |
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Joubu |
#link https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]ng_7_October_2020 |
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amoyano |
#info Agustin Moyano, Theke Solutions |
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oleonard |
#info Owen Leonard, Athens County Public Libraries, Ohio, USA |
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Joubu |
#topic Announcements |
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Topic for #koha is now Announcements (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting 7 October 2020) |
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Joubu |
#info Roles for 21.05 are opened https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]i/Roles_for_21.05 |
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Joubu |
please add your name :) |
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Joubu |
I candidate to continue as serving for RM |
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ashimema[m] |
long live the RM |
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oleonard |
Joubu++ |
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Joubu |
Anyone have something else to announce? |
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Joubu |
as usual, just ask me with quick "!" or "." or whatever if you want me to stop |
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Joubu |
otherwise I am moving on |
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Joubu |
#topic Update from the Release manager (20.11) |
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Topic for #koha is now Update from the Release manager (20.11) (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting 7 October 2020) |
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ashimema[m] |
:) |
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Joubu |
bug 20582 and bug 22417 have been pushed this week |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=20582 enhancement, P5 - low, Future, julian.maurice, Pushed to master , Turn Koha into a Mojolicious application |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=22417 new feature, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to master , Add a task queue |
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Joubu |
Keep going the work on those 2 and SO/QA on existing dependent patches or open/write follow-up bug reports. |
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amoyano |
great news! |
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Joubu |
#info If you face issues with ktd you certainly need to `docker-compose pull` |
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Joubu |
Those using kohadevbox will certainly to install new dependencies. Let us know if you face any problems related to them. |
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Joubu |
Other point, I would like to highlight bug 24488: That would be great to see one or two of us offering their help to aleisha. |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=24488 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, aleisha, ASSIGNED , Holds to Pull sometimes shows the wrong 'first patron' details |
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Joubu |
#info The new git server will be live next month, after the October stable releases |
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* ashimema[m] |
has been tip toeing around that one.. |
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ashimema[m] |
awesome on the gitserver front |
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Joubu |
I have started to add the release-notes-needed flag on some bug reports pushed to 20.11 that need them. Please add them when missing! At least for the ones I flagged. |
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Joubu |
And that's all for me, any questions? |
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Joubu |
ha yes, release dates will be published on the ML very soon |
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Joubu |
#topic Updates from the Release Maintainers |
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Topic for #koha is now Updates from the Release Maintainers (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting 7 October 2020) |
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ashimema[m] |
are there any here? |
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Joubu |
#info October stable releases will be rolled out on 27th |
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* ashimema[m] |
is happy to see fridolin running for rmaint next cycle |
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Joubu |
postponed after KohaCon |
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Joubu |
#topic Updates from the QA team |
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Topic for #koha is now Updates from the QA team (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting 7 October 2020) |
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ashimema[m] |
QA has been flowing well.. but there's always more that can be done |
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Joubu |
Queue is getting high a bit, 65 bugs |
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ashimema[m] |
usual suspects are shouldering allot of the burden |
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Joubu |
It would be great to see some of you focussed on Katrin's patches |
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Joubu |
as she did an awesome job last month to lower the numbers |
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ashimema[m] |
+1 (I'm locked out of most as I've done a chunk of SO on them) |
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ashimema[m] |
most are simple to QA too.. boost your numbers by taking some on chaps |
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Joubu |
#info @QA - QA ALL THE THINGS. There are easy ones to boost your name on top of the dashboard :) |
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Joubu |
#info Actions from last meeting |
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Joubu |
#topic Actions from last meeting |
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Topic for #koha is now Actions from last meeting (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting 7 October 2020) |
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Joubu |
#topic ashimema is collecting notes about bug 15522 and is going to review and dig a bit more into the code (postponed) |
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Topic for #koha is now ashimema is collecting notes about bug 15522 and is going to review and dig a bit more into the code (postponed) (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting 7 October 2020) |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=15522 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Patch doesn't apply , New interface for revamped circulation rules |
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ashimema[m] |
It would be nice to see some more QA's from matts and alex_a |
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matts |
ashimema[m], I agree. |
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Joubu |
ashimema[m]: what is the status of this? |
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ashimema[m] |
OK.. 15522 generally I'm happy with.. I was hoping to see a vue alternative put forward for comparison to highlight the complexity/simplicity of the javascript |
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Joubu |
What are the feedbacks of the users? |
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ashimema[m] |
I believe the existing branch needs a minor rebase for the changes to our build scripts |
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amoyano |
I'll try to add my 2 cents on vue for that one |
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ashimema[m] |
UX wise everyone seemed happy |
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tcohen |
amoyano++ |
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ashimema[m] |
amoyano that would be awesome |
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tcohen |
there's the need to revisit the gulpfile |
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tcohen |
I'll take a look there |
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Joubu |
amoyano: when do you think you will have time to dedicate to it? |
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ashimema[m] |
I've a feeling at this point it's not a 20.11 piece but one for very very early 21.05 |
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Joubu |
it's definitely too late for 20.11 |
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ashimema[m] |
I'd rather wait a month/cycle and see a nice proof of vue |
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Joubu |
maybe something to present during KohaCon? |
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amoyano |
I'll try to do something this week |
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Joubu |
I really would like to get some feedback from real users |
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ashimema[m] |
I'm not expert enough in either react or vue to have a strong feeling.. but I will admit the react code looks complex |
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Joubu |
(ie. not devs) |
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ashimema[m] |
amoyano that is awesome |
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ashimema[m] |
I got our support team to give it a run down and they liked it.. |
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ashimema[m] |
especially once they'd had a chat with their contemporaries at ByWater.. |
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Joubu |
#action amoyano Will try to provide a Vue alternative to bug 15522 |
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ashimema[m] |
we also have a customer on standby to play with it |
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Joubu |
ashimema[m]: where are the notes you collected? |
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ashimema[m] |
in the end it was sumamrised as.. "We like it" |
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amoyano |
hehe |
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Joubu |
Could we imagine a sandbox with sample data with a lot of circ rules? |
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Joubu |
and ask the list for feedback? |
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ashimema[m] |
that's a nice idea |
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Joubu |
you are voluntering, right? |
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ashimema[m] |
how big is big.. |
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tcohen |
ashimema[m]++ |
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Joubu |
#action ashimema Setup a sandbox with lot of circ rules (ideally from production data) to test 15522. Then ask the list for feedback. |
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Joubu |
great :) |
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ashimema[m] |
the tests we ran with it were with a customers data.. a few hundred lines of circ rules |
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Joubu |
#topic davidnind Find and update relevant places to record Perl version required, including release notes, manual and wiki (one source of the truth) (postponed) |
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Topic for #koha is now davidnind Find and update relevant places to record Perl version required, including release notes, manual and wiki (one source of the truth) (postponed) (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting 7 October 2020) |
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ashimema[m] |
I'll ask said customer if they're happy for me to share such a set (with anonymised users of course) |
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Joubu |
I think I pinged him at the last meeting but cannot remember his answer :-/ |
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ashimema[m] |
me either |
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Joubu |
@later tell davidnind Can you update the actions assigned to you for the next dev meetings please? |
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huginn |
Joubu: The operation succeeded. |
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Joubu |
#action davidnind Find and update relevant places to record Perl version required, including release notes, manual and wiki (one source of the truth) (postponed) |
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Joubu |
#action davidnind to add information about what to backport to the release maintainers role page (as a starting point for further notes and guidance) |
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Joubu |
#topic ashimema to write a guideline to forbidding the use of type "number" |
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Topic for #koha is now ashimema to write a guideline to forbidding the use of type "number" (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting 7 October 2020) |
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ashimema[m] |
hmm |
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ashimema[m] |
I thought I did that |
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ashimema[m] |
just trying to find the draft |
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amoyano |
is it part of the qa script? |
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Joubu |
I think so |
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Joubu |
or there is a merge request |
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Joubu |
https://gitlab.com/koha-commun[…]tools/-/issues/38 |
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Joubu |
there is a merge request associated to the issue |
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ashimema[m] |
OK.. seems I never added it |
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* fridolin |
waves |
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Joubu |
and it has been approved, I will merge it. I guess I was waiting for the guidelines to be approved |
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ashimema[m] |
I'll add it to the guidelines as "ACC2: Input type number should not be used" |
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Joubu |
#action ashimema to write a guideline to forbidding the use of type "number" (postponed) |
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ashimema[m] |
ajha.. I bet I drafted it on the bug report |
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Joubu |
#topic tuxayo to collect notes (if any) from past&present RMaints about their backport policies. |
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Topic for #koha is now tuxayo to collect notes (if any) from past&present RMaints about their backport policies. (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting 7 October 2020) |
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Joubu |
#info tuxayo collected notes from past and present RMaints about their backport policies at https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]_maintenance_tips |
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Joubu |
#topic General development discussion (trends, ideas, ...) |
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Topic for #koha is now General development discussion (trends, ideas, ...) (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting 7 October 2020) |
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Joubu |
ashimema[m]: ideally we should update the action entry directly on the meeting page |
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Joubu |
that will help to know if we should postpone or if the action has been done |
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Joubu |
especially if the author does not attend the meeting |
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ashimema[m] |
good idea |
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Joubu |
#topic What to do when updatedatabase fails ? |
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Topic for #koha is now What to do when updatedatabase fails ? (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting 7 October 2020) |
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ashimema[m] |
thanks |
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Joubu |
jajm: you added that, right? |
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ashimema[m] |
It comes up semi-frequently |
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ashimema[m] |
most recent broader discussion is on bug 25078 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=25078 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, In Discussion , Gracefully stop updatedatabase/installer when a database change cannot be applied |
| 14:32 |
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Joubu |
yes |
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Joubu |
I was trying to find this one |
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jajm |
Joubu, yes, but I wasn't aware of bug 25078 |
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ashimema[m] |
which was raised a a bug after discussions on bug 22887 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=22887 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to master , authorised_values is missing a unique constraint on category + authorised_value |
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koha-jenkins |
Yippee, build fixed! |
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wahanui |
Congratulations! |
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koha-jenkins |
Project Koha_19.11_U16 build #8: FIXED in 44 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]Koha_19.11_U16/8/ |
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ashimema[m] |
and more recently came up in bug 18050 |
| 14:33 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=18050 minor, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Signed Off , Missing constraint on aqbudgets.budget_period_id in aqbudgets |
| 14:33 |
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Joubu |
basically, see my last comment on 25078 |
| 14:33 |
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ashimema[m] |
In short.. there's a strong feeling amongst some that updatedatebase should somehow gracefully fail to ensure the database is consistent for all as apposed to just warning. |
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Joubu |
(note to myself: never write you are going to do something during the next dev cycle...) |
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ashimema[m] |
hehe |
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ashimema[m] |
well.. is it still a goal people are strongly feeling should be met |
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jajm |
Joubu, "As I said I would prefer to have the whole thing ran in one go." so you want to run every DB update even if the first failed ? |
| 14:35 |
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Joubu |
My point is: we can explode, people is supposed to have a backup. |
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ashimema[m] |
my feeling is as much as I'd like to see it done.. it also doesn't present me with enough of an issue to work on it personally.. |
| 14:35 |
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Joubu |
jajm: yes |
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Joubu |
you get all the errors |
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ashimema[m] |
and.. I don't feel we should be failing existing bug reports for it |
| 14:36 |
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Joubu |
then you restore the backup, fix the problems and run the upgrade again |
| 14:36 |
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jajm |
errors that can happen only because the first failed |
| 14:36 |
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Joubu |
it's just a my developper point of view. Seems easier to fix |
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Joubu |
than redoing the whole script every error it faces |
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Joubu |
I am suggesting to continue the discussion on the bug report |
| 14:38 |
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Joubu |
I am open to anything we decide and I am willing to work on it if we find an concensus |
| 14:39 |
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Joubu |
ok? |
| 14:39 |
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jajm |
it seems dangerous to assume everyone has db backups and that the backups work :) |
| 14:40 |
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jajm |
ok to continue on the bug report |
| 14:41 |
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Joubu |
Another last minute discussion? |
| 14:41 |
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Joubu |
#topic Set time of next meeting |
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Topic for #koha is now Set time of next meeting (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting 7 October 2020) |
| 14:42 |
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Joubu |
#info Next meeting: 28 October 2020, 20 UTC |
| 14:42 |
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Joubu |
in 3 weeks, after the KohaCon |
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Joubu |
#endmeeting |
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Topic for #koha is now Welcome to #koha this channel is for discussion of the Koha project and software https://koha-community.org |
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huginn |
Meeting ended Wed Oct 7 14:42:28 2020 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) |
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huginn |
Minutes: https://meetings.koha-communit[…]-10-07-14.01.html |
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huginn |
Minutes (text): https://meetings.koha-communit[…]0-10-07-14.01.txt |
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huginn |
Log: https://meetings.koha-communit[…]07-14.01.log.html |
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ashimema[m] |
Thanks Joubu |
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Joubu |
ashimema[m]: maybe you should link the gov uk recommendation to ACC2? |
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Joubu |
hmrc |
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Joubu |
no it was not hmrc :D |
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Joubu |
https://technology.blog.gov.uk[…]type-for-numbers/ |
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Joubu |
I meant this one |
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ashimema[m] |
I think they've rebranded themselves a bit since the original |
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ashimema[m] |
but yeah.. not a bad idea to link to it. |
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tcohen |
Joubu++ |
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reiveune |
bye |
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kidclamp |
Joubu: please see my followup on 24488 and approve or obsolete |
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Joubu |
erk |
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Joubu |
I was going to submit a follow-up :-( |
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ashimema[m] |
lol |
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ashimema[m] |
you did ask for help in the meeting ;) |
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ashimema[m] |
glad I'm here to see others do it.. as I was also thinking of jumping in next.. haha |
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* ashimema[m] |
lets the dust settle a bit |
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kidclamp |
heh, sorry |
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Joubu |
kidclamp: I think you missed something |
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Joubu |
I am attaching mine |
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Joubu |
kidclamp: we did almost the same things, but you forgot the { '!=', undef } part |
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Joubu |
I think it should be kept |
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Joubu |
also, the count of items: we don't need the pass a column and "distinct" |
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otherwise yes, it's the same idea :) |
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what do you think? |
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kidclamp |
yes, I missed some :-) nice one |
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kidclamp: I was wondering if we should not actually retrieve all the items instead of replaying the same query |
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Joubu |
we could do that in perl |
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Joubu |
like: my @items = Koha::Items->the_search; my @location = uniq {map $_->location} @items; |
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Joubu |
misplaced {}, but you got the point I'm sure |
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I did wonder which would be more efficient |
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kathryn |
hi caroline I'm here again for the meeting, did I also have the time wrong? :) |
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tcohen |
something's wrong with bugzilla |
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tcohen |
kathryn: did you get a bunch of materials from Argentina? |
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caroline |
hi again kathryn! it is in an hour (according to the calendar...) |
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caroline |
hi davidnind! |
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kathryn |
tchoen I have a new one yesterday labelled Aniversario Koha-ffyh not sure if that's one you know |
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tcohen |
it is |
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kathryn |
cool :) |
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davidnind |
hi caroline! |
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kathryn |
hi davidnind |
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tcohen |
hi caroline davidnind |
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davidnind |
hi kathryn tcohen |
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caroline |
hi tcohen! |
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aleisha |
hello |
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caroline |
hi aleisha! |
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tcohen |
hi aleisha |
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marieluce |
hi everyone |
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aleisha |
missed the dev meeting but here for the community meeting! |
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caroline |
Joubu around? |
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caroline |
if not any volunteers to chair the meeting? |
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caroline |
I guess I can do it since I'm around and don't have much to say |
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caroline |
#startmeeting General IRC meeting 7 October 2020 |
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huginn |
Meeting started Wed Oct 7 20:02:34 2020 UTC. The chair is caroline. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. |
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huginn |
Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. |
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Topic for #koha is now (Meeting topic: General IRC meeting 7 October 2020) |
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huginn |
The meeting name has been set to 'general_irc_meeting_7_october_2020' |
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caroline |
#topic Introductions |
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Topic for #koha is now Introductions (Meeting topic: General IRC meeting 7 October 2020) |
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caroline |
please use "#info" in front of your introduction to have it show up in the automatic minutes |
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aleisha |
#info Aleisha Amohia, Catalyst IT, Wellington ZN |
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aleisha |
oops |
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caroline |
#info Caroline Cyr La Rose, inLibro, Montreal |
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marieluce |
#info Marie-Luce Laflamme, inLibro, Montreal |
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davidnind |
#info David Nind, Wellington, New Zealand |
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lisettelatah |
#info Lisette Scheer Latah County Library District, Moscow, Idaho, US |
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kathryn |
#info Kathryn Tyree, Catalyst IT, NZ |
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henryb |
#info Henry Bolshaw, House of Lords Library, UK |
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caroline |
cait sends her apologies as she is not able to attend today |
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caroline |
#topic Announcements |
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Topic for #koha is now Announcements (Meeting topic: General IRC meeting 7 October 2020) |
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rangi |
#nfo Chris Cormack, Catalyst IT |
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rangi |
lol |
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caroline |
The wiki pae for 21.05 roles is open! |
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rangi |
#info Chris Cormack, Catalyst IT |
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caroline |
#link https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]i/Roles_for_21.05 |
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caroline |
#info Wiki page for 21.05 roles is open add your names! |
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caroline |
any other announcements? (we'll do a separate topic for Kohacon) |
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kathryn |
:) |
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caroline |
#topic KohaCon updates |
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Topic for #koha is now KohaCon updates (Meeting topic: General IRC meeting 7 October 2020) |
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caroline |
the floor is yours |
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wahanui |
i already had it that way, caroline. |
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kathryn |
Thanks! |
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caroline |
wahanui what is the floor? |
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wahanui |
well, the floor is yours |
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kathryn |
Here's something I prepared earlier :) |
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kathryn |
Catalyst are very busy with preparation, but it's a moving train now and it's going to arrive on 19 October! |
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kathryn |
#info Please can all online and in-person attendees register at https://2020.kohacon.org/posts/registration/ there is room for more in person, and the internet has more space too :) We will email the URL for the stream to everyone registered. |
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kathryn |
All presenters who are pre-recording please send in your recordings this week. |
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kathryn |
Thanks to all that contributed to the video! We hope it works out when we put it all together - we will see! |
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kathryn |
All are welcome at Kohacon, whether they use Koha now or not and are interested to listen in and see how they can apply our Koha stories in their own libraries. Please share the news :) |
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caroline |
less than 2 weeks! |
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kathryn |
way less! let me try and put the rest in the in minutes |
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kathryn |
#info All presenters who are pre-recording please send in your recordings this week. |
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kathryn |
Thanks to all that contributed to the video! We hope it works out when we put it all together - we will see! |
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kathryn |
#info All are welcome at Kohacon, whether they use Koha now or not and are interested to listen in and see how they can apply our Koha stories in their own libraries. Please share the news :) |
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kathryn |
sorry one more time for the notes |
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kathryn |
#info Thanks to all that contributed to the video! We hope it works out when we put it all together - we will see! |
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caroline |
kathryn++ |
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marieluce |
kathryn++ |
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kathryn |
In short, we're seeing lots of registrations at the moment, keep them coming, it's all happening! |
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hayley |
kathryn++ |
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kathryn |
Anyone else want to add anything or ask? |
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caroline |
And for those in Europe and America, don't forget that it starts on October 18 for us |
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caroline |
I just realized this this week |
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caroline |
we live int he past |
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aleisha |
hehe |
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kathryn |
yeah caroline, also we just started daylight savings which is why I thought this meeting was an hour ago, as well as yesterday ;) |
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thd |
#info Thomas Dukleth, Agogme, New York City |
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kathryn |
perhaps we'll put that in the next koha list email |
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caroline |
presenters, make sure to check your times otherwise you will be one day late lol! |
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henryb |
Will the in-person workshops be recorded or available online too? |
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kathryn |
#info we'll send out the stream link a day or two before the conference |
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caroline |
good question henryb! |
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kathryn |
henryb no sorry :( we decided it's a bit hard on the presenters to cater to both in person and remote learners/participants |
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kathryn |
if we can share some notes/summaries/slides we will do that |
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caroline |
Workshops on Oct. 25 are online though? |
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caroline |
and what about the DIY days? |
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kathryn |
no, there was just one online workshop proposed, the rest are in person |
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henryb |
Ok thanks kathryn. The workshops sound really interesting so it would be great to see notes afterwards if that's possible. |
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kathryn |
The DIY days we'll be in IRC, in person here in Wellington NZ, and have video conference available if people want to work together that way |
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kathryn |
henryb we also don't have a camera set up in the workshops room, whereas the main auditorium has all the gear fro recording/streaming |
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caroline |
just to summarize for online viewers it's days 1-3 for talks and days 6 and 7 for DIY on IRC, is that right? |
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kathryn |
yes |
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caroline |
#info for online viewers it's days 1-3 for talks and days 6 and 7 for DIY on IRC |
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caroline |
thanks for the clarification kathryn! |
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henryb |
Looking forward to it! Although still not sure when I will sleep |
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rangi |
plus the one online workshop if ppl are interested in rfid stuff |
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kathryn |
#info #kohacon20 is the hashtag! |
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caroline |
#info there is one online workshop on day 5 too |
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caroline |
davidnind will be manning the twitter? |
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kathryn |
Tosca from Catalyst will be on @nzkoha |
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caroline |
any other questions for the kohacon organizers? |
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rangi |
im sure davidnind will be retweeting and adding more on @kohails too :) |
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kathryn |
which we've been using for the conference - but would love to have david on ^ yep :) |
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davidnind |
I was planning to, and can provide access if anyone else wants to - hopefully don't get blocked this time for too many tweets! |
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davidnind |
might not be the same volume - not sure whether it is too much live tweeting sonetimes... |
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caroline |
thank you organizing team for turning around and organizing this for the new noemal |
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caroline |
#info follow @nzkoha and @kohails on Twitter during the conference |
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davidnind |
kathyrn++ (and team!) |
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kathryn |
you're welcome, lets see how it goes :) looking forward to it! |
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henryb |
kathryn++ |
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caroline |
alrighty if there aren't any other questions we'll move on to the next topic |
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caroline |
#topic Update on releases |
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Topic for #koha is now Update on releases (Meeting topic: General IRC meeting 7 October 2020) |
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caroline |
anybody from the meeting this morning can summarize? |
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caroline |
rmaints? |
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wahanui |
rmaints is lukeG, aleisha, and tuxayo, I SUMMON THEE!!âš¡âš¡ |
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aleisha |
hello |
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aleisha |
i wasnt in the meeting this morning |
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caroline |
I guess Jobou and team are on schedule to release 20.11 in november |
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aleisha |
basically |
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wahanui |
basically is checks the Bugzilla statuses are correct, then updates the status, adds the 'released in versions' text and adds a comment |
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hayley |
shh wahanui |
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aleisha |
#info string freeze for october release will be 20th and release will be 27th |
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sam_s |
where is the koha-conf.xml located in the koha install? The manual refrences it but doesn't say where it's located |
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caroline |
alright, anything else for releases? |
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hayley |
sam_s usually /etc/koha/sites/<instance>/koha-conf.xml I think |
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caroline |
ok then, moving on |
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caroline |
#topic Actions from last meeting |
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Topic for #koha is now Actions from last meeting (Meeting topic: General IRC meeting 7 October 2020) |
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caroline |
#info no actions from last meeting |
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caroline |
any other topics y'all wanted to discuss? |
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caroline |
I feel like I'm going through topics very fast, don't hesitate to tell me to wait a bit :) |
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davidnind |
lisettlelatah++ and koha-US team for a successful online conference last month |
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caroline |
lisettelatah++ |
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lisettelatah |
Thanks! all the recordings and slides are up on our website for anyone who missed it. |
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lisettelatah |
http://koha-us.org/learn/confe[…]linetogether2020/ |
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caroline |
#info recordings and slides of Koha-US conference are on Koha-US website |
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caroline |
#link http://koha-us.org/learn/confe[…]linetogether2020/ |
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caroline |
#topic Set time of Next meeting |
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Topic for #koha is now Set time of Next meeting (Meeting topic: General IRC meeting 7 October 2020) |
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caroline |
First week of november? |
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caroline |
I propose to still keep it at this time for Kohacon wrap up, even if it's a bit inconvenient for europeans |
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sam_s |
hayley: thx! |
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davidnind |
+1 |
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thd |
+1 |
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hayley |
sam_s :) |
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caroline |
So wednesday nov 4 20UTC? |
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thd |
+1 |
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caroline |
Objections? |
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aleisha |
+1 |
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henryb |
+1 |
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davidnind |
+1 |
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caroline |
#info Next meeting: 4 November 2020, 20 UTC |
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caroline |
#endmeeting |
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Topic for #koha is now Welcome to #koha this channel is for discussion of the Koha project and software https://koha-community.org |
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Meeting ended Wed Oct 7 20:40:37 2020 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) |
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huginn |
Minutes: https://meetings.koha-communit[…]-10-07-20.02.html |
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huginn |
Minutes (text): https://meetings.koha-communit[…]0-10-07-20.02.txt |
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Log: https://meetings.koha-communit[…]07-20.02.log.html |
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davidnind |
caroline++ |
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marieluce |
caroline++ |
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caroline |
thanks everyone! I can't wait to see your faces at Kohacon! |
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henryb |
caroline++ |
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caroline |
(or the backs of your heads if you're not presenting lol) |
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caroline |
@later tell ashimema[m] can you run the post-meeting script for minutes? |
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huginn |
caroline: The operation succeeded. |
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tcohen |
oh noes |
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got distracted (kids) |
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tcohen |
koha++ |
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tcohen |
caroline++ |
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