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oleonard |
I didn't think you *should* be awake dcook, I just recalled that you sometimes were at that time :) |
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dcook |
Hehe |
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dcook |
Well, I was awake. Just not on IRC. Sometimes I'm on that late, but just haven't been in the mood lately. |
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oleonard |
I just thought that if I caught you online I'd ask for more details about that Safari user |
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dcook |
Might start up again this week or next though |
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dcook |
Ah yeah I figured that would be the case |
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dcook |
It was a few weeks ago, so I don't recall 100% |
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dcook |
But as I mentioned in the email, I think she had trouble with the "Choose file" button not working |
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dcook |
But... I don't know what version of Safari she was using or anything. I think it was a personal computer anyway |
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dcook |
Whereas she uses a different computer for her actual work |
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* oleonard |
sees the follow-up email now |
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oleonard |
I observed a problem with the "Choose file" button too |
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dcook |
:o |
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oleonard |
https://zivotdesign.com/p/view[…]?p=15960711677886 |
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dcook |
@later tell oleonard Ah yep that looks like it to me |
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reiveune |
hello |
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wahanui |
que tal, reiveune |
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oleonard-away |
cait++ # Spam-fighter |
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cait1 |
heh thx :) oleonard++ too |
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oleonard |
cait++ # Also for QA |
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cait1 |
oleonad++ # for SO and great GUI improvements |
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cait1 |
I would love to sign some of your patches off... but worried they will get stuck then |
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cait1 |
so waiting |
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oleonard |
Ooh, I like your idea about the split button for editing news! |
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oleonard |
lukeG and I both talked about wanting to more easily swap between the editing modes and that's a good first step |
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cait1 |
I think the codemirror will help a lot, but yep.... maybe a little fine tuning :) |
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cait1 |
I wanted to put the idea out there at least, but no intention to block the patches |
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oleonard |
I wonder if "Edit with WYSIWYG editor" is not friendly |
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* oleonard |
bbl |
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tcohen |
morning |
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Joubu |
@later tell wizzyrea Hi Liz, do you know how the history page on the website is updated? It seems to be auto generated. There is a bug reported (24685), it's trivial to fix but it looks like it needs to be done at lower level (scripting?) |
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huginn |
Joubu: The operation succeeded. |
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Joubu |
tcohen: did you review bug 26063? |
| 13:51 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=26063 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Needs Signoff , Use Koha::Plugins->call for other hooks |
| 13:51 |
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Joubu |
my patch I mean |
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tcohen |
yes |
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tcohen |
I saw it, looks sane |
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tcohen |
haven't tested |
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tcohen |
I mean the follow-up |
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tcohen |
I can QA it |
| 14:00 |
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lukeG1 |
good morning Koha |
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tcohen |
Joubu do we need to remove the check for C4::Context->config("enable_plugins") |
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tcohen |
in C4::Biblio snf Koha::Item |
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Joubu |
it's done in call |
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tcohen |
but in C4::Biblio it would skip fetching the Koha::Biblio |
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tcohen |
in Koha::Item my quetsion doesn't apply |
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Joubu |
does it make sense to send biblio and biblioid? |
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Joubu |
we discussed it already for another oo |
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Joubu |
hook |
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Joubu |
I'd send only the id |
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Joubu |
then the plugin can fetch the info it needs |
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tcohen |
in this cases |
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tcohen |
it doesn't hurt to send the id |
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Joubu |
I want to send only the id |
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* tcohen |
noticed |
| 14:17 |
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tcohen |
I might be the only one using this hooks |
| 14:17 |
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tcohen |
and maybe PTFS-E |
| 14:18 |
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Joubu |
well, it's not pushed yet, so... |
| 14:20 |
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tcohen |
Ah |
| 14:20 |
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Joubu |
ha ha! |
| 14:21 |
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tcohen |
teh after_biblio_hooks are pushed |
| 14:21 |
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Joubu |
ah |
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oleonard |
Hi again #koha |
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tcohen |
hi oleonard |
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wahanui |
hi oleopard |
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oleonard |
This place is boisterous as usual... |
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reiveune |
bye |
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huginn |
News from kohagit: Bug 26061: Compiled CSS <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]cc986ff71b77bb28d> |
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huginn |
News from kohagit: Bug 22087: Compiled CSS <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]506147849e137781e> |
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huginn |
News from kohagit: Bug 26060: Compiled CSS <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]1ca8e05115b563dc7> |
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huginn |
News from kohagit: Bug 26070: DBRev 20.06.00.020 <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]d12c8e4e03923d15d> |
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huginn |
News from kohagit: Bug 22660: DBRev 20.06.00.019 <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]688b497bd6b03b67f> |
| 15:46 |
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huginn |
News from kohagit: Bug 22660: (QA follow-up) Fix capitalization in system preference <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]f806eeaa97d43ae1e> |
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huginn |
News from kohagit: Bug 26083: Item editor defaults to lost <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]20ca020c9cf111b01> |
| 15:46 |
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huginn |
News from kohagit: Bug 26070: Remove GoogleIndicTransliteration system preference <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]4d4a5a3acc0f6e232> |
| 15:46 |
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huginn |
News from kohagit: Bug 22087: Add missing filters <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]33329fc40eabb5f9d> |
| 15:46 |
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huginn |
News from kohagit: Bug 26061: Improve style of sidebar datepickers <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]2083e1377eadd3c1f> |
| 15:46 |
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huginn |
News from kohagit: Bug 22660: (follow-up) Re-word system preference description <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]b857da72706653575> |
| 15:46 |
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huginn |
News from kohagit: Bug 22660: (follow-up) Improve asset handling, add linting <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]12e2425e5a6039a95> |
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huginn |
News from kohagit: Bug 25968: Make logs sort by date descending as a default <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]8dfbc86e04657ce81> |
| 15:46 |
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huginn |
News from kohagit: Bug 25953: Add ID to installed plugins table on plugins-home.pl <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]7500be8f305db570a> |
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huginn |
News from kohagit: Bug 22660: Add system pref to allow switching of editors in News Tool <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]2dffe9cc6779eb3e3> |
| 15:46 |
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huginn |
News from kohagit: Bug 22087: Move the email into the list <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]45ac04ed92e73f708> |
| 15:46 |
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huginn |
News from kohagit: Bug 22087: Remove padding on li's <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]7e2d8ecd49d02c430> |
| 15:46 |
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huginn |
News from kohagit: Bug 22087: Prevent variable names colision <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]27855f1a859edeeb6> |
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huginn |
News from kohagit: Bug 22087: Add a no_line_break parameter to prevent new lines <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]a7028692bcfa5b968> |
| 15:46 |
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huginn |
News from kohagit: Bug 22087: Add space between zipcode and country <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]3a9f75ecad7f94a67> |
| 15:46 |
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huginn |
News from kohagit: Bug 22087: Use include file to display patrons address in search result <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]0e044ac708f80966a> |
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cait1 |
i love seeing these :) |
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Joubu |
this one was huge! |
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Joubu |
https://bugs.koha-community.or[…].cgi?id=25855#c29 # for the failures |
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huginn |
Bug 25855: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Pushed to master , Add hook to AddRenewal using a new _after_circ_actions method in circulation |
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Joubu |
bye #koha |
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Yippee, build fixed! |
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Congratulations! |
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Yippee, build fixed! |
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Congratulations! |
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Yippee, build fixed! |
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Congratulations! |
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Yippee, build fixed! |
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Congratulations! |
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Marie-Luce |
Is anyone aroung familiar with the system preference AuthorityMergeLimit? |
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davidnind |
Hi Marie-Luce! Sorry, I'm not familiar with AuthorityMergeLimit. |
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Marie-Luce |
Hi David |
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Marie-Luce |
No worries. Thanks |
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davidnind |
There are a couple of 'recent ' bugs https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]it&list_id=337940 |
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cait |
Marie-Luce: in theory, what's the question? |
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cait |
well, not only theory... we are on an older version, but we have a library maintaining authorities locally where I had tested it |
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cait |
hi lisettelatah :) |
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lisettelatah |
hi cait :) |
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lisettelatah |
cait or any one interested: if koha-us was going to expand our book and craft club to have a meeting that would work for our European friends, would Saturday or Sunday work better (and are you interested) |
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cait |
what is discussed at book and craft? |
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cait |
and maybe :) |
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cait |
I'd try to make one to find out probably |
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wizzyrea |
hi |
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wahanui |
hey, wizzyrea |
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lisettelatah |
we had our first meeting last night, read a book and discussed it while we did some crafting. We ended up mostly just talking and crafting and only a little book discussion. |
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wizzyrea |
joubu: it is autogenerated. Hilariously, it was broken altogether until about 2 days ago when I fixed it. |
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wizzyrea |
those are probably tabs in the dates. |
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wizzyrea |
which come from Koha |
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tcohen |
I've just posted patches on bug 22343, it is just the CRUD, it is still not using that config, but feedback is welcome on the UI |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=22343 new feature, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, NEW , Add SMTP configuration options to Administration |
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cait |
lisettelatah: knitting does count as crafting, right? |
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lisettelatah |
cait of course! Last night we had knitting, crocheting, spinning, and someone working on a sewing pattern. We also had someone who didn't have a craft and that is also allowed :) |
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Marie-Luce |
#cait concerning the system preference AuthorityMergeLimit, what would it do it the limit is set to 0 ? |
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cait |
i believe it would always merge immedaitely |
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cait |
let me check |
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cait |
hm ah, i think it would always use the cron |
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cait |
(so the other way around) |
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cait |
and if empty it turns it into 0 |
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cait |
http://git.koha-community.org/[…]0c9cf111b01#l1372 |
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Marie-Luce |
so if I do a cleanup in my authorities (merged authorities and deleted others with the same name), what will happen to my biblio record after running the cron? |
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cait |
so 0 or empty = always use the cron for updating the linked bibliographic records |
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cait |
merging - it changes the heading and authid |
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cait |
deleting... not quite sure |
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cait |
but it works on the authid |
| 20:08 |
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cait |
so the same name shoudl not hurt things |
| 20:15 |
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Marie-Luce |
If my authority is linked to biblio records and I delete it by mistake, would it delete the authority info from the biblio record too? |
| 20:17 |
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cait |
i think so |
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cait |
but i htink there might be a bug about the delete behaviour somewhere |
| 20:18 |
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cait |
i'd probably do a quick test to confirm how it behaves |
| 20:19 |
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Marie-Luce |
I was sure of the normal behaviour. |
| 20:21 |
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cait |
bug 24125 |
| 20:21 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=24125 normal, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, NEW , Deleting an authority clears the record heading |
| 20:22 |
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Marie-Luce |
Oh. interesting |
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cait |
adding a comment could help pushing it up a little |
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cait |
also interested in your opinion on the right behavior |
| 20:26 |
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Marie-Luce |
I'm using Koha 19.05. This bug is on the master, can you recall if it was in previous version? |
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cait |
i think it should go down to all old versons probably |
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cait |
if you check when it was filed - 2019-11 |
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cait |
that's probably a good indicator of what version it was filed against |
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cait |
I think likely to be in 19.05 |
| 20:28 |
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Marie-Luce |
I do have a different probleme. One of my authority was deleted. My biblio records still have the authority number in the 100$9, but it doesn't exist anymore... I'm confused |
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cait |
hm |
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cait |
has the job run yet? |
| 20:29 |
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cait |
you could check the db table |
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Marie-Luce |
no |
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Marie-Luce |
what would you check in the db? |
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cait |
it's need_merge_authorities |
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cait |
it's a bit like zebraqueue |
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cait |
when the cron is used for merging, then the info is kept there until it has been run |
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cait |
http://schema.koha-community.o[…]_authorities.html |
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cait |
you could check for your authid i think |
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Marie-Luce |
so, if the cron is scheduled to run once a day.... everything pile up |
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cait |
yeah - i think hte idea is to process them at a time when the library is not very busy |
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Marie-Luce |
it makes much more sense now |
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Marie-Luce |
thanks a lot cait |
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cait |
you are welcome |
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davidnind |
cait++ |
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koha-jenkins |
Project Koha_20.05_D9_My8 build #46: SUCCESS in 48 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]_20.05_D9_My8/46/ |
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cait |
davidnind: reminds me... i have tried to improve hte manual about the merging rules |
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cait |
please let me know if the patches are ok like this - I will try to do some more |
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cait |
:) |
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cait |
well it was just seeing you triggering ... manual :) |
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davidnind |
I will have a look! :) |
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davidnind |
(I'm sure they will be okay!) |
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tuxayo |
davidnind: around? |
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davidnind |
I is! |
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tuxayo |
davidnindis there a good moment for you to work documenting system requirements and recommendations? It's been a while I wanted to look on that topic and I'm free now that I finished other things. |
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tuxayo |
(other homework for the meeting ^^) |
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davidnind |
I have a table and notes with the various Koha versions and OS supported |
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davidnind |
working on adding the Perl versions and MySQL/MariaDB versions |
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davidnind |
might also add a table with the browser versions supported as well |
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davidnind |
there are also a couple of recent mailing list items about it as well that I have to digest |
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tuxayo |
> with the various Koha versions and OS supported |
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tuxayo |
Great, that's the most confusing thing for me. Since it change in the life of a given major version. Can be simple to document if we stick to the latest point release though. |
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tuxayo |
> table with the browser versions supported as well |
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tuxayo |
Indeed, let me check which major version is affected |
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tuxayo |
Nooooo, no Koha mentioned. Does it means next major? (unlikely) current stable or all 3 supported branches? |
| 22:35 |
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tuxayo |
(after rereading general_irc_meeting_15_july_2020) |
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tuxayo |
> there are also a couple of recent mailing list items about it as well that I have to digest |
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tuxayo |
davidnind Which are the threads? I can help with that. |
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wahanui |
okay, tuxayo. |
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tuxayo |
lol wahanui |
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tuxayo |
About IE, knowing the Koha versions is also important to announce the support drop in the mailing list. |
| 22:38 |
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davidnind |
https://lists.katipo.co.nz/pip[…]thread.html#54955 |
| 22:38 |
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davidnind |
Browser support is interesting! |
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davidnind |
Normally, it is a recent version of the main browsers (Google Chrome, Firefox, Microsoft Edge, and Chromium) |
| 22:40 |
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davidnind |
However, some organisations can be slow in updating desktops/versions |
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tuxayo |
And lastest Firefox ESR I guess? |
| 22:41 |
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davidnind |
For example, IE 11 (no one in their right mind should use it, but....) |
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davidnind |
Adding ESR version, didn't think of that! |
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davidnind |
Also, there is a differentiation between the OPAC and the staff interface |
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davidnind |
For good web practice, things should degrade nicely but still be functional |
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tuxayo |
Anyway the recommendation aren't that strict due to the variety of client envs. The hard and strict part is about the few versions explicitly not supported anymore. Like IE 11 |
| 22:42 |
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tuxayo |
> differentiation between the OPAC and the staff interface |
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tuxayo |
+1 |
| 22:43 |
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davidnind |
However, there is such a combination out there that it gets "hard" to make things work as expected across everything and all OSs |
| 22:44 |
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tuxayo |
what do you mean? |
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davidnind |
then there are the Apple people with Safari! |
| 22:45 |
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tuxayo |
Yep, should it be explicitly discouraged? (not dropped like old IEs ) |
| 22:46 |
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tuxayo |
> things should degrade nicely but still be functional |
| 22:46 |
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tuxayo |
Indeed, like circulation still works on IE 5! :D |
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davidnind |
What you said before, there are such a variety of environments Koha is run in or accessed from that it can be hard to categorically support ABC browser on XYZ OS |
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tuxayo |
https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]_Explorer_support |
| 22:48 |
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davidnind |
^^ nice (hesitates to ask where IE 3 and 5 are still used)! |
| 22:49 |
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davidnind |
As Koha uses Bootstrap, it can take care of most of these issues - looking forward to the Bootstrap 4 work |
| 22:50 |
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davidnind |
maybe we can go back to using a text only browser :-D (would be a good test to see what works and what doesn't) |
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davidnind |
anyway, on the server side the database combination is what I' working on at the moment - just digging through the dev meeting discussions and mailing list |
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tuxayo |
> hard to categorically support ABC browser |
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tuxayo |
Indeed an easy approach is to just list the recommendations and the non-supported ones. Like IE. And maybe discourage Safari? (not a strong as not supporting) |
| 22:56 |
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davidnind |
was where I was leaning towards,I don't think it reasonable to support very old versions of browsers |
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tuxayo |
+1 |
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davidnind |
not really familiar with Safari |
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davidnind |
Have a meeting for the next hour or so, so will get back to that this afternoon - will post a link once I've got in a reasonable set of info for review/comment (will be some GitLab pages and some source in markdown) |
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tuxayo |
At least I can tell that about media standards, it's super bad. It still doesn't support Ogg vorbis, VP8, VP9, AV1. So due it's marketshare it can singlehandly block the usage of open format :( |
| 22:58 |
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tuxayo |
davidnind: Ok, I'll finish responding by email to you and send some additional info I got. |
| 22:59 |
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davidnind |
that will be great! thanks! |
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cait |
:) |
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cait |
davidnind++ tuxayo++ |
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cait |
davidnind: actually... you might be the native speaker i am looking for |
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cait |
coudl you take a moment for bug 19036? |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=19036 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Failed QA , Number payment receipts / payment slips |
| 23:09 |
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cait |
the question (putting it out her for everyone else too) is if credit number is the right term for the feature described there. |
| 23:09 |
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davidnind |
having a quick look now... |
| 23:09 |
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cait |
oh htought i had missed you -thx! |
| 23:10 |
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davidnind |
shouldn't you be asleep? :) |
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cait |
um... |
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cait |
i am sleep qa'ing |
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davidnind |
:) |
| 23:15 |
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davidnind |
for debits (when we are charging someone), then invoice number is the right term |
| 23:16 |
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davidnind |
for credits (for payments) then receipt number would be the right term |
| 23:17 |
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cait |
could you add as comment to the bug please? |
| 23:17 |
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davidnind |
for credits, where a transaction is reversed or cancelled), then I'll try and track down the correct term |
| 23:18 |
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davidnind |
will add a comment shortly, no problem! |
| 23:18 |
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cait |
thx :) |
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cait |
we have a few places in code where we have renamed things later in the gui and made it confusing forever |
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cait |
fund/budget is the most prominent |
| 23:18 |
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cait |
we actually switched them |
| 23:19 |
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cait |
so in the code budget means fund... and ugh. I |
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cait |
I think it's worth thinking about proper naming |
| 23:19 |
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davidnind |
has always confused me a bit! |
| 23:20 |
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cait |
or lists and virtualshelves |
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cait |
patrons and members |
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cait |
guess i should stop sleep qa'ing now :) |
| 23:20 |
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davidnind |
yep! |
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davidnind |
I hope the terminology doesn't keep you up at night, with your brain whirring away! |
| 23:23 |
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cait |
comments and reviews.. |
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cait |
too late |
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davidnind |
credit note maybe, although that doesn't cover reversing transactions to fix things up! |
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davidnind |
hehe |
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cait |
i think at the moment it would keep the assigned number if reversed... hm |
| 23:24 |
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cait |
not sure if that is good or bad - i guess once the receipt has been printed you would not want to reuse a number |
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cait |
good night! |
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davidnind |
transaction number would cover all situations, if the intend is to have a sequential and unique id for trackability |
| 23:25 |
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davidnind |
good night cait! |
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davidnind |
I will add some comments to the bug |
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