Time Nick Message 00:35 oleonard I didn't think you *should* be awake dcook, I just recalled that you sometimes were at that time :) 00:35 dcook Hehe 00:35 dcook Well, I was awake. Just not on IRC. Sometimes I'm on that late, but just haven't been in the mood lately. 00:36 oleonard I just thought that if I caught you online I'd ask for more details about that Safari user 00:36 dcook Might start up again this week or next though 00:36 dcook Ah yeah I figured that would be the case 00:36 dcook It was a few weeks ago, so I don't recall 100% 00:36 dcook But as I mentioned in the email, I think she had trouble with the "Choose file" button not working 00:37 dcook But... I don't know what version of Safari she was using or anything. I think it was a personal computer anyway 00:37 dcook Whereas she uses a different computer for her actual work 00:38 * oleonard sees the follow-up email now 00:38 oleonard I observed a problem with the "Choose file" button too 00:38 dcook :o 01:06 oleonard https://zivotdesign.com/p/view.php?p=15960711677886 02:42 dcook @later tell oleonard Ah yep that looks like it to me 02:42 huginn dcook: The operation succeeded. 06:49 reiveune hello 06:49 wahanui que tal, reiveune 10:59 oleonard-away cait++ # Spam-fighter 10:59 cait1 heh thx :) oleonard++ too 11:28 oleonard cait++ # Also for QA 11:29 cait1 oleonad++ # for SO and great GUI improvements 11:29 cait1 I would love to sign some of your patches off... but worried they will get stuck then 11:29 cait1 so waiting 11:32 oleonard Ooh, I like your idea about the split button for editing news! 11:33 oleonard lukeG and I both talked about wanting to more easily swap between the editing modes and that's a good first step 11:34 cait1 I think the codemirror will help a lot, but yep.... maybe a little fine tuning :) 11:37 cait1 I wanted to put the idea out there at least, but no intention to block the patches 12:20 oleonard I wonder if "Edit with WYSIWYG editor" is not friendly 12:39 * oleonard bbl 12:40 tcohen morning 13:48 Joubu @later tell wizzyrea Hi Liz, do you know how the history page on the website is updated? It seems to be auto generated. There is a bug reported (24685), it's trivial to fix but it looks like it needs to be done at lower level (scripting?) 13:48 huginn Joubu: The operation succeeded. 13:51 Joubu tcohen: did you review bug 26063? 13:51 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=26063 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Needs Signoff , Use Koha::Plugins->call for other hooks 13:51 Joubu my patch I mean 13:56 tcohen yes 13:56 tcohen I saw it, looks sane 13:56 tcohen haven't tested 13:56 tcohen I mean the follow-up 13:57 tcohen I can QA it 14:00 lukeG1 good morning Koha 14:03 tcohen Joubu do we need to remove the check for C4::Context->config("enable_plugins") 14:03 tcohen in C4::Biblio snf Koha::Item 14:03 Joubu it's done in call 14:04 tcohen but in C4::Biblio it would skip fetching the Koha::Biblio 14:04 tcohen in Koha::Item my quetsion doesn't apply 14:06 Joubu does it make sense to send biblio and biblioid? 14:06 Joubu we discussed it already for another oo 14:06 Joubu hook 14:06 Joubu I'd send only the id 14:07 Joubu then the plugin can fetch the info it needs 14:16 tcohen in this cases 14:17 tcohen it doesn't hurt to send the id 14:17 Joubu I want to send only the id 14:17 * tcohen noticed 14:17 tcohen I might be the only one using this hooks 14:17 tcohen and maybe PTFS-E 14:18 Joubu well, it's not pushed yet, so... 14:20 tcohen Ah 14:20 Joubu ha ha! 14:21 tcohen teh after_biblio_hooks are pushed 14:21 Joubu ah 14:23 oleonard Hi again #koha 14:23 tcohen hi oleonard 14:23 wahanui hi oleopard 14:38 oleonard This place is boisterous as usual... 15:01 reiveune bye 15:46 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 26061: Compiled CSS <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=cc621836b26010986c85bd2cc986ff71b77bb28d> 15:46 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 22087: Compiled CSS <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=0a37a026e3eaa4da57b467d506147849e137781e> 15:46 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 26060: Compiled CSS <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=a8b95985847d38296abd1961ca8e05115b563dc7> 15:46 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 26070: DBRev 20.06.00.020 <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=773b88e9c20c17ea70aa285d12c8e4e03923d15d> 15:46 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 22660: DBRev 20.06.00.019 <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=9deaf86754c9d6aa0b4a2cb688b497bd6b03b67f> 15:46 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 22660: (QA follow-up) Fix capitalization in system preference <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=9e0d097a5692af07db020e6f806eeaa97d43ae1e> 15:46 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 26083: Item editor defaults to lost <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=3ae472ba5d9b7bfe6c6e44320ca020c9cf111b01> 15:46 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 26070: Remove GoogleIndicTransliteration system preference <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=9b9e8fd32852acceb10cfc54d4a5a3acc0f6e232> 15:46 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 22087: Add missing filters <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=80077c44f9eeea537f0085e33329fc40eabb5f9d> 15:46 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 26061: Improve style of sidebar datepickers <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=5cd1c1e03290ae7be214dd92083e1377eadd3c1f> 15:46 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 22660: (follow-up) Re-word system preference description <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=23846781751d7fb808b3fa4b857da72706653575> 15:46 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 22660: (follow-up) Improve asset handling, add linting <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=5bec404420c6dd9251b511d12e2425e5a6039a95> 15:46 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 25968: Make logs sort by date descending as a default <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=e68fe2a928bec05b9602fa28dfbc86e04657ce81> 15:46 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 25953: Add ID to installed plugins table on plugins-home.pl <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=c2111c1ce6532b73af3a4847500be8f305db570a> 15:46 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 22660: Add system pref to allow switching of editors in News Tool <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=980dd605031e616f1d481852dffe9cc6779eb3e3> 15:46 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 22087: Move the email into the list <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=07d00ee029dfddd1aed1b4e45ac04ed92e73f708> 15:46 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 22087: Remove padding on li's <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=a351d056c597e3a925500527e2d8ecd49d02c430> 15:46 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 22087: Prevent variable names colision <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=89551241dbf3712fa9e582627855f1a859edeeb6> 15:46 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 22087: Add a no_line_break parameter to prevent new lines <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=77058c7d6ba4f13c64b5f48a7028692bcfa5b968> 15:46 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 22087: Add space between zipcode and country <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=2fac4017b78d5da9b20b7e73a9f75ecad7f94a67> 15:46 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 22087: Use include file to display patrons address in search result <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=33f4bc949e22cca9eb6ee590e044ac708f80966a> 15:46 cait1 i love seeing these :) 15:51 Joubu this one was huge! 16:25 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_U16 build #30: UNSTABLE in 39 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_U16/30/ 16:30 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D11 build #49: UNSTABLE in 44 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D11/49/ 16:31 Joubu https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=25855#c29 # for the failures 16:31 huginn Bug 25855: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Pushed to master , Add hook to AddRenewal using a new _after_circ_actions method in circulation 16:31 Joubu bye #koha 16:37 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D9_MDB_Latest build #354: STILL UNSTABLE in 49 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D9_MDB_Latest/354/ 16:47 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D9_My8 build #377: UNSTABLE in 1 hr 0 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D9_My8/377/ 17:05 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D9 build #1395: UNSTABLE in 39 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D9/1395/ 17:05 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_U20 build #52: UNSTABLE in 1 hr 16 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_U20/52/ 17:14 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D10_Deps build #35: UNSTABLE in 43 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D10_Deps/35/ 17:22 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D10 build #311: UNSTABLE in 44 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D10/311/ 17:45 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_U18 build #851: UNSTABLE in 57 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_U18/851/ 17:57 koha-jenkins Project Koha_20.05_D9 build #52: UNSTABLE in 39 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_20.05_D9/52/ 18:06 koha-jenkins Project Koha_20.05_D9_My8 build #43: SUCCESS in 49 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_20.05_D9_My8/43/ 18:11 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed! 18:11 wahanui Congratulations! 18:11 koha-jenkins Project Koha_20.05_U18 build #43: FIXED in 48 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_20.05_U18/43/ 18:33 koha-jenkins Project Koha_20.05_D10 build #49: SUCCESS in 35 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_20.05_D10/49/ 18:36 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed! 18:36 wahanui Congratulations! 18:36 koha-jenkins Project Koha_20.05_U20 build #40: FIXED in 1 hr 18 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_20.05_U20/40/ 18:40 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed! 18:40 wahanui Congratulations! 18:40 koha-jenkins Project Koha_20.05_U16 build #40: FIXED in 54 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_20.05_U16/40/ 18:53 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed! 18:53 wahanui Congratulations! 18:53 koha-jenkins Project Koha_20.05_D9 build #53: FIXED in 46 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_20.05_D9/53/ 19:04 koha-jenkins Project Koha_20.05_D9_My8 build #44: SUCCESS in 53 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_20.05_D9_My8/44/ 19:11 koha-jenkins Project Koha_20.05_U18 build #44: SUCCESS in 38 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_20.05_U18/44/ 19:17 Marie-Luce Is anyone aroung familiar with the system preference AuthorityMergeLimit? 19:27 davidnind Hi Marie-Luce! Sorry, I'm not familiar with AuthorityMergeLimit. 19:27 Marie-Luce Hi David 19:28 Marie-Luce No worries. Thanks 19:28 davidnind There are a couple of 'recent ' bugs https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=AuthorityMergeLimit&list_id=337940 19:33 koha-jenkins Project Koha_20.05_U20 build #41: SUCCESS in 53 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_20.05_U20/41/ 19:38 koha-jenkins Project Koha_20.05_U16 build #41: SUCCESS in 45 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_20.05_U16/41/ 19:51 cait Marie-Luce: in theory, what's the question? 19:51 koha-jenkins Project Koha_20.05_D10 build #50: UNSTABLE in 1 hr 15 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_20.05_D10/50/ 19:52 cait well, not only theory... we are on an older version, but we have a library maintaining authorities locally where I had tested it 19:52 cait hi lisettelatah :) 19:53 koha-jenkins Project Koha_20.05_D9 build #54: UNSTABLE in 48 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_20.05_D9/54/ 19:53 koha-jenkins Project Koha_20.05_D9_My8 build #45: SUCCESS in 41 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_20.05_D9_My8/45/ 19:55 lisettelatah hi cait :) 19:56 lisettelatah cait or any one interested: if koha-us was going to expand our book and craft club to have a meeting that would work for our European friends, would Saturday or Sunday work better (and are you interested) 19:57 cait what is discussed at book and craft? 19:57 cait and maybe :) 19:58 cait I'd try to make one to find out probably 19:58 wizzyrea hi 19:58 wahanui hey, wizzyrea 19:59 lisettelatah we had our first meeting last night, read a book and discussed it while we did some crafting. We ended up mostly just talking and crafting and only a little book discussion. 19:59 wizzyrea joubu: it is autogenerated. Hilariously, it was broken altogether until about 2 days ago when I fixed it. 20:00 wizzyrea those are probably tabs in the dates. 20:00 wizzyrea which come from Koha 20:01 tcohen I've just posted patches on bug 22343, it is just the CRUD, it is still not using that config, but feedback is welcome on the UI 20:01 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=22343 new feature, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, NEW , Add SMTP configuration options to Administration 20:02 cait lisettelatah: knitting does count as crafting, right? 20:03 lisettelatah cait of course! Last night we had knitting, crocheting, spinning, and someone working on a sewing pattern. We also had someone who didn't have a craft and that is also allowed :) 20:03 Marie-Luce #cait concerning the system preference AuthorityMergeLimit, what would it do it the limit is set to 0 ? 20:04 cait i believe it would always merge immedaitely 20:04 cait let me check 20:05 cait hm ah, i think it would always use the cron 20:05 cait (so the other way around) 20:06 cait and if empty it turns it into 0 20:07 cait http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=blob;f=C4/AuthoritiesMarc.pm;hb=3ae472ba5d9b7bfe6c6e44320ca020c9cf111b01#l1372 20:07 Marie-Luce so if I do a cleanup in my authorities (merged authorities and deleted others with the same name), what will happen to my biblio record after running the cron? 20:07 cait so 0 or empty = always use the cron for updating the linked bibliographic records 20:08 cait merging - it changes the heading and authid 20:08 cait deleting... not quite sure 20:08 cait but it works on the authid 20:08 cait so the same name shoudl not hurt things 20:15 Marie-Luce If my authority is linked to biblio records and I delete it by mistake, would it delete the authority info from the biblio record too? 20:17 cait i think so 20:17 cait but i htink there might be a bug about the delete behaviour somewhere 20:18 cait i'd probably do a quick test to confirm how it behaves 20:19 Marie-Luce I was sure of the normal behaviour. 20:21 cait bug 24125 20:21 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=24125 normal, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, NEW , Deleting an authority clears the record heading 20:22 Marie-Luce Oh. interesting 20:23 cait adding a comment could help pushing it up a little 20:24 cait also interested in your opinion on the right behavior 20:26 Marie-Luce I'm using Koha 19.05. This bug is on the master, can you recall if it was in previous version? 20:26 cait i think it should go down to all old versons probably 20:26 cait if you check when it was filed - 2019-11 20:27 cait that's probably a good indicator of what version it was filed against 20:27 cait I think likely to be in 19.05 20:28 Marie-Luce I do have a different probleme. One of my authority was deleted. My biblio records still have the authority number in the 100$9, but it doesn't exist anymore... I'm confused 20:28 cait hm 20:28 cait has the job run yet? 20:29 cait you could check the db table 20:29 Marie-Luce no 20:29 Marie-Luce what would you check in the db? 20:29 cait it's need_merge_authorities 20:29 cait it's a bit like zebraqueue 20:30 cait when the cron is used for merging, then the info is kept there until it has been run 20:30 cait http://schema.koha-community.org/19_05/tables/need_merge_authorities.html 20:30 cait you could check for your authid i think 20:31 Marie-Luce so, if the cron is scheduled to run once a day.... everything pile up 20:35 cait yeah - i think hte idea is to process them at a time when the library is not very busy 20:35 Marie-Luce it makes much more sense now 20:35 Marie-Luce thanks a lot cait 20:35 cait you are welcome 20:37 davidnind cait++ 20:42 koha-jenkins Project Koha_20.05_D9_My8 build #46: SUCCESS in 48 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_20.05_D9_My8/46/ 20:45 cait davidnind: reminds me... i have tried to improve hte manual about the merging rules 20:46 cait please let me know if the patches are ok like this - I will try to do some more 20:46 cait :) 20:47 cait well it was just seeing you triggering ... manual :) 20:47 davidnind I will have a look! :) 20:47 davidnind (I'm sure they will be okay!) 22:02 tuxayo davidnind: around? 22:16 davidnind I is! 22:20 tuxayo davidnindis there a good moment for you to work documenting system requirements and recommendations? It's been a while I wanted to look on that topic and I'm free now that I finished other things. 22:20 tuxayo (other homework for the meeting ^^) 22:27 davidnind I have a table and notes with the various Koha versions and OS supported 22:28 davidnind working on adding the Perl versions and MySQL/MariaDB versions 22:28 davidnind might also add a table with the browser versions supported as well 22:28 davidnind there are also a couple of recent mailing list items about it as well that I have to digest 22:30 tuxayo > with the various Koha versions and OS supported 22:30 tuxayo Great, that's the most confusing thing for me. Since it change in the life of a given major version. Can be simple to document if we stick to the latest point release though. 22:31 tuxayo > table with the browser versions supported as well 22:31 tuxayo Indeed, let me check which major version is affected 22:34 tuxayo Nooooo, no Koha mentioned. Does it means next major? (unlikely) current stable or all 3 supported branches? 22:35 tuxayo (after rereading general_irc_meeting_15_july_2020) 22:35 tuxayo > there are also a couple of recent mailing list items about it as well that I have to digest 22:35 tuxayo davidnind Which are the threads? I can help with that. 22:35 wahanui okay, tuxayo. 22:35 tuxayo lol wahanui 22:36 tuxayo About IE, knowing the Koha versions is also important to announce the support drop in the mailing list. 22:38 davidnind https://lists.katipo.co.nz/pipermail/koha/2020-July/thread.html#54955 22:38 davidnind Browser support is interesting! 22:39 davidnind Normally, it is a recent version of the main browsers (Google Chrome, Firefox, Microsoft Edge, and Chromium) 22:40 davidnind However, some organisations can be slow in updating desktops/versions 22:40 tuxayo And lastest Firefox ESR I guess? 22:41 davidnind For example, IE 11 (no one in their right mind should use it, but....) 22:41 davidnind Adding ESR version, didn't think of that! 22:42 davidnind Also, there is a differentiation between the OPAC and the staff interface 22:42 davidnind For good web practice, things should degrade nicely but still be functional 22:42 tuxayo Anyway the recommendation aren't that strict due to the variety of client envs. The hard and strict part is about the few versions explicitly not supported anymore. Like IE 11 22:42 tuxayo > differentiation between the OPAC and the staff interface 22:42 tuxayo +1 22:43 davidnind However, there is such a combination out there that it gets "hard" to make things work as expected across everything and all OSs 22:44 tuxayo what do you mean? 22:44 davidnind then there are the Apple people with Safari! 22:45 tuxayo Yep, should it be explicitly discouraged? (not dropped like old IEs ) 22:46 tuxayo > things should degrade nicely but still be functional 22:46 tuxayo Indeed, like circulation still works on IE 5! :D 22:46 davidnind What you said before, there are such a variety of environments Koha is run in or accessed from that it can be hard to categorically support ABC browser on XYZ OS 22:46 tuxayo https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/User:Victor_Grousset_-_tuxayo/Internet_Explorer_support 22:48 davidnind ^^ nice (hesitates to ask where IE 3 and 5 are still used)! 22:49 davidnind As Koha uses Bootstrap, it can take care of most of these issues - looking forward to the Bootstrap 4 work 22:50 davidnind maybe we can go back to using a text only browser :-D (would be a good test to see what works and what doesn't) 22:53 davidnind anyway, on the server side the database combination is what I' working on at the moment - just digging through the dev meeting discussions and mailing list 22:55 tuxayo > hard to categorically support ABC browser 22:55 tuxayo Indeed an easy approach is to just list the recommendations and the non-supported ones. Like IE. And maybe discourage Safari? (not a strong as not supporting) 22:56 davidnind was where I was leaning towards,I don't think it reasonable to support very old versions of browsers 22:56 tuxayo +1 22:56 davidnind not really familiar with Safari 22:57 davidnind Have a meeting for the next hour or so, so will get back to that this afternoon - will post a link once I've got in a reasonable set of info for review/comment (will be some GitLab pages and some source in markdown) 22:57 tuxayo At least I can tell that about media standards, it's super bad. It still doesn't support Ogg vorbis, VP8, VP9, AV1. So due it's marketshare it can singlehandly block the usage of open format :( 22:58 tuxayo davidnind: Ok, I'll finish responding by email to you and send some additional info I got. 22:59 davidnind that will be great! thanks! 23:08 cait :) 23:08 cait davidnind++ tuxayo++ 23:08 cait davidnind: actually... you might be the native speaker i am looking for 23:08 cait coudl you take a moment for bug 19036? 23:08 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=19036 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Failed QA , Number payment receipts / payment slips 23:09 cait the question (putting it out her for everyone else too) is if credit number is the right term for the feature described there. 23:09 davidnind having a quick look now... 23:09 cait oh htought i had missed you -thx! 23:10 davidnind shouldn't you be asleep? :) 23:12 cait um... 23:12 cait i am sleep qa'ing 23:12 davidnind :) 23:15 davidnind for debits (when we are charging someone), then invoice number is the right term 23:16 davidnind for credits (for payments) then receipt number would be the right term 23:17 cait could you add as comment to the bug please? 23:17 davidnind for credits, where a transaction is reversed or cancelled), then I'll try and track down the correct term 23:18 davidnind will add a comment shortly, no problem! 23:18 cait thx :) 23:18 cait we have a few places in code where we have renamed things later in the gui and made it confusing forever 23:18 cait fund/budget is the most prominent 23:18 cait we actually switched them 23:19 cait so in the code budget means fund... and ugh. I 23:19 cait I think it's worth thinking about proper naming 23:19 davidnind has always confused me a bit! 23:20 cait or lists and virtualshelves 23:20 cait patrons and members 23:20 cait guess i should stop sleep qa'ing now :) 23:20 davidnind yep! 23:21 davidnind I hope the terminology doesn't keep you up at night, with your brain whirring away! 23:23 cait comments and reviews.. 23:23 cait too late 23:23 davidnind credit note maybe, although that doesn't cover reversing transactions to fix things up! 23:23 davidnind hehe 23:23 cait i think at the moment it would keep the assigned number if reversed... hm 23:24 cait not sure if that is good or bad - i guess once the receipt has been printed you would not want to reuse a number 23:24 cait good night! 23:24 davidnind transaction number would cover all situations, if the intend is to have a sequential and unique id for trackability 23:25 davidnind good night cait! 23:25 davidnind I will add some comments to the bug