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alexbuckley |
hi all, a quick question. I want to enter a non-public note on a biblio record but don't want to have to add it to each individual item as you'd have to do using the 952$x. Is there an alternative suitabl marc subfield I could add a nonpublic note too? |
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tcohen |
hola |
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tcohen |
alexbuckley are you asking MARC21 questions? |
| 02:50 |
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tcohen |
or is it item notes? |
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tcohen |
aleisha recalls? |
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aleisha |
alexbuckley: https://www.loc.gov/marc/authority/ad667.html ? |
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aleisha |
yes tcohen bug 19532 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=19532 new feature, P1 - high, ---, aleisha, Needs Signoff , Recalls for Koha |
| 02:51 |
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alexbuckley |
its a marc21 question tcohen |
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alexbuckley |
ah thanks aleisha |
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tcohen |
Joubu is AFK for some more days, get it through QA and I'll push it :-P |
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tcohen |
LOL |
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tcohen |
those are authority record notes |
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tcohen |
I think you should pick a 59X (local notes) |
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alexbuckley |
ahh 590$a perhaps |
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aleisha |
ah true |
| 02:53 |
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alexbuckley |
590 looks to be indexed too which is a plus |
| 02:53 |
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tcohen |
maybe it means extra work if you need to display it on the UI |
| 02:54 |
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tcohen |
(unless you play with GET /api/v1/biblios/:biblio_id and JS |
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tcohen |
^.^ |
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alexbuckley |
true! I'd only want it visible in the staff client |
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tcohen |
extra work == does the XSLT include it already? |
| 02:56 |
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alexbuckley |
as far as I can see xslt doesn't display it now, but it is visible in 'Description' tab in staff client |
| 02:57 |
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tcohen |
right |
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tcohen |
lukeG did a great job using the API to render stuffs on the detail view |
| 02:58 |
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tcohen |
for a ByWater partner |
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tcohen |
as you can fetch the MARC-in-JSON record and just traverse it to get the data |
| 03:00 |
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alexbuckley |
oh interesting, I've never done any work with that before, I'll look into it. thanks so much for your help! |
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tcohen |
in Theke we are starting to leverage on the API as much as we can |
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tcohen |
we don't like maintaining XSLTs |
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tcohen |
:-D |
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tcohen |
we don't like XSLT at al |
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tcohen |
all |
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alexbuckley |
ah so its basically an alternative to customising and maintaining XSLT's? |
| 03:02 |
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tcohen |
the cool thing about APIs, is that you can get creative and use them for whatever you want |
| 03:02 |
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tcohen |
when I wrote the /biblios route for fetching in various formats I was targeting this use case |
| 03:04 |
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alexbuckley |
it certainly does sound way simpler than loads of xslt files to maintain! |
| 03:05 |
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tcohen |
the more we use the APIs the more we find the design issues and make them mature |
| 03:05 |
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tcohen |
that one, specifically, won't probably change in a long time |
| 03:06 |
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tcohen |
so it is one to rely on |
| 03:08 |
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alexbuckley |
good to know :) you added it in bug 24908 ? |
| 03:08 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=24908 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, RESOLVED FIXED, Allow fetching text-formatted MARC data |
| 03:16 |
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tcohen |
on that one I just added the $record->as_formatted output |
| 03:17 |
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tcohen |
it was bug 23677 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=23677 new feature, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Pushed to master , Add API route to get a bibliographic record |
| 03:17 |
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tcohen |
and there's an OPAC counterpart |
| 03:17 |
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tcohen |
bug 24909 |
| 03:17 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=24909 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Pushed to oldstable , Add unprivileged route to get a bibliographic record |
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alexbuckley |
ahh ok thanks for that! |
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tcohen |
anyone for a quick SO? |
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tcohen |
bug 21468 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=21468 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, martin.renvoize, Needs Signoff , Plugins need hooks for checkin and checkout actions. |
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reiveune |
hello |
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kohaputti |
anybody gotten SIP server work in koha-testing-docker? For me it starts but doesn't accept any connections |
| 08:30 |
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kohaputti |
Undefined subroutine &C4::SIP::SIPServer::set_logger called at /kohadevbox/koha/C4/SIP/SIPServer.pm line 106. |
| 08:34 |
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ashimema |
how does one test bug 15522 ? |
| 08:34 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=15522 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , New interface for revamped circulation rules |
| 08:35 |
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ashimema |
I've just checked out the branch.. but all I see in the circ rules page is 'Loading, please wait...' |
| 08:35 |
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ashimema |
forever |
| 08:39 |
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kohaputti |
ashimema, the status "Signed off" is wrong? I think it was added when lari tested the patches attached to the bug report, but those are not the ones that we want to use |
| 08:39 |
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kohaputti |
we should mark the patches in the bug report obsolete if that is the case |
| 08:39 |
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ashimema |
lol.. I hadn't even looked at the status ;) |
| 08:40 |
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ashimema |
I just wanted to take a quick look at it. |
| 08:40 |
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kohaputti |
maybe the patches just don't work anymore |
| 08:40 |
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ashimema |
I thought Joubu had maintained his branch |
| 08:40 |
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kohaputti |
last update 5 months ago? |
| 08:40 |
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ashimema |
or maybe there's another branch now.. I'll dig down the comments |
| 08:41 |
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ashimema |
there's feedback coming in on the bottom of the bug.. so they must be running it somehow :( |
| 08:42 |
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kohaputti |
ashimema, so you checked out the new branch and did reset_all? |
| 08:42 |
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kohaputti |
I mean https://gitlab.com/joubu/Koha/commits/bug_15522 |
| 08:43 |
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kohaputti |
ashimema, also maybe those testers used the patches that lari had signed off and added followups for... |
| 08:49 |
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kohaputti |
figured out my problem with koha-testing-docker, the kohadev-koha user doesn't have PERL5LIB set |
| 08:50 |
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kohaputti |
(with koha specific paths) |
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ashimema |
brb.. meeting |
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nlegrand |
Bonjour #koha ! |
| 09:02 |
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ashimema |
yeah.. I checked out the branch and reset everything |
| 09:03 |
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ashimema |
I'll try applying the bug instead.. though I bet there will be conflicts |
| 09:03 |
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kohaputti |
ashimema, I remember the patchset that preceded this required specific version of misc_tools... Anyway, easiest way to debug is probably check why it doesn't load or just wait for joubu to rebase to current master |
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kohaputti |
ashimema, but the patches in the bug are totally different? |
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* ashimema |
is not using misc3dev for this.. testing using a local test dataset |
| 09:07 |
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kohaputti |
ah well, this patch set doesn't look to have any db specific changes so maybe it shouldn't matter here |
| 09:08 |
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ashimema |
hmm |
| 09:08 |
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ashimema |
think I'll give up |
| 09:08 |
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kohaputti |
but maybe there has been some new db changes in master. |
| 09:08 |
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ashimema |
perhaps |
| 09:08 |
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kohaputti |
(I'm guessing your local test dataset is for master) |
| 09:09 |
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kohaputti |
has Joubu been around, btw? |
| 09:09 |
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ashimema |
well.. it's an 18.11 I use and then run updatedatabase ;) |
| 09:09 |
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ashimema |
no worries |
| 09:09 |
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ashimema |
Joubu is on his holidays |
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kohaputti |
ok, thanks for the info |
| 09:13 |
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ashimema |
he's vaguely around now and then.. if there's something urgent tochen and I still have push rights on master and permission from Joubu to push anything important ;) |
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* ashimema |
is tempted to jump in and fix the automicupdate that's hanging around |
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kohaputti |
turns out the issue with sip2 server was within koha / the refactoring of SIP2 logging: https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]cgi?id=15253#c102 |
| 10:06 |
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huginn |
Bug 15253: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to master , Add Koha::Logger based logging for SIP2 |
| 10:06 |
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kohaputti |
The C4::SIP::Logger module doesn't export get_logger and set_logger |
| 10:08 |
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kohaputti |
I think I have had this code working on ubuntu 20.04 machine |
| 10:11 |
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kohaputti |
nope, it fails even on installed debian package |
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kohaputti |
ok, updated koha now on multiple machines from a version before the refactoring and all have the same issue |
| 10:27 |
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cait1 |
ashimema: maybe tcohen could - i think he pushed something already... so barrier might be lower :) |
| 10:27 |
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cait1 |
ah shoudl read all the things, you could too |
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ashimema |
hehe |
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kohaputti |
khall_, I'm puzzled how you have been submitting patches for SIP2 server and not come across this, or did you hack your way through? |
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oleonard |
Hi all |
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kidclamp |
hi oleonard |
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wahanui |
hi oleopard |
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kohaputti |
git-bz cannot handle bug reports with utf-8 chars in title :D |
| 11:42 |
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kohaputti |
I submitted the fix now for SIP2 server crash: Bug 25992 – would be nice if someone could sign-off and qa it asap so people can move forward testing other sip2 patches that are waiting QA/sign-off |
| 11:42 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=25992 critical, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Needs Signoff , SIP2 server doesn't start - Undefined subroutine set_logger |
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tcohen |
morning |
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oleonard |
Hi tcohen |
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auvajs |
Hello. I'm new to koha, trying to install it on Ubuntu server. I followed the instructions and installed the software, but when I log in to the Web installer, it shows several Perl modules missing. This is strange since for example the first one is HTTPD::Bench::ApacheBench but I installed it meanwhile |
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auvajs |
could somebody help me please? |
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tcohen |
auvajs don't worry about those that say they are used for testing purposes |
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tcohen |
Ah, it doesn't say it on the UI! |
| 12:21 |
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auvajs |
tcohen: well most importantly I can't continue the installation process |
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tcohen |
tell us more |
| 12:21 |
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tcohen |
that one shouldn't prevent the install process, specifically |
| 12:21 |
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tcohen |
is this a packages install? |
| 12:22 |
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tcohen |
Ubuntu? What version? Is it supported? etc |
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tcohen |
https://snipboard.io/sqDlij.jpg |
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tcohen |
^^ those shouldn't block an install |
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auvajs |
tcohen: https://i.postimg.cc/0yqfc1rK/screen01.jpg |
| 12:23 |
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oleonard |
Only Locale::Language is required to continue |
| 12:23 |
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tcohen |
mtj will be interested in the Ubuntu version, and the Koha version |
| 12:24 |
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tcohen |
if this is a packages install, it should be installed automatically, hence I repeat: what Ubuntu and Koha versions? |
| 12:24 |
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auvajs |
Ubuntu 19.10 |
| 12:24 |
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tcohen |
go on |
| 12:25 |
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auvajs |
what's the command for koha version please? :) |
| 12:25 |
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tcohen |
what instructions have you been following? |
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tcohen |
you most probably installed using a Debian repository |
| 12:26 |
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tcohen |
so |
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tcohen |
apt show koha-common |
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auvajs |
tcohgen: https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Debian |
| 12:26 |
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tcohen |
right |
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auvajs |
cohen* sorry for the typo |
| 12:27 |
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tcohen |
apt show koha-common |
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auvajs |
https://termbin.com/ibmi |
| 12:28 |
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tcohen |
I suggest |
| 12:29 |
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tcohen |
- That you install on an LTS release (20.04) |
| 12:29 |
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tcohen |
- That you manually install the library |
| 12:29 |
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tcohen |
the latter, if you cannot pick an LTS |
| 12:30 |
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tcohen |
I don't find it packaged for 19.10 |
| 12:30 |
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tcohen |
so I suggest you do |
| 12:30 |
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tcohen |
$ sudo apt install cpanminus |
| 12:30 |
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tcohen |
wait |
| 12:31 |
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auvajs |
I'm using Google Cloud Platform and I think thay didn't have 20.04 for the zone/region I needed |
| 12:31 |
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tcohen |
try installing libintl-perl |
| 12:32 |
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tcohen |
and this is a packaging bug probably |
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auvajs |
libintl-perl allready installed |
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tcohen |
ok |
| 12:32 |
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tcohen |
$ sudo apt install cpanminus |
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tcohen |
$ sudo cpanm -i Language::Locale |
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tcohen |
sorry Locale::Language |
| 12:33 |
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tcohen |
he |
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auvajs |
tcohen: it shows some errors but I'll try to follow the instructions they suggest there |
| 12:37 |
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auvajs |
or if you think that starting all over with Ubuntu 20.04 would be easier I may give it a try as well |
| 12:37 |
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tcohen |
if I was you, I would actually pick Debian 9 |
| 12:38 |
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auvajs |
well been using Ubuntu since more than 10 years and been totally used to it :) |
| 12:38 |
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tcohen |
fair enough, I like it as well |
| 12:39 |
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tcohen |
it is just that us devs test all the time on Debian |
| 12:39 |
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tcohen |
anyway, Koha is tested in Ubuntu as well |
| 12:39 |
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tcohen |
the wiki you pasted, it has a supported OS list |
| 12:40 |
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auvajs |
in this phase it's still possible for me to delete the VM instance and start all over, it will only take couple minutes |
| 12:40 |
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tcohen |
you can try |
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tcohen |
sudo cpanm -i Locale::Language 2.07 |
| 12:40 |
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auvajs |
tcohen: well I run some other software/websites on the server, not only Koha |
| 12:48 |
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lmstrand |
Would any of you happen to know an easy way to get a time stamp printed in a me-friendly form like 12:36:07::xxx with milliseconds? |
| 12:50 |
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tcohen |
"printed"? |
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lmstrand |
to console |
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lmstrand |
I want to see how much time has passed after stuff is finished. |
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tcohen |
are you trying to profile some Koha script/code? |
| 12:55 |
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lmstrand |
yes |
| 12:55 |
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lmstrand |
I want to see how long my proxy server handles incoming SIP calls for. |
| 12:55 |
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tcohen |
https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]th_Devel::NYTProf |
| 12:56 |
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kohaputti |
lmstrand, why? |
| 12:57 |
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kohaputti |
profiling is useful for optimizing your code but are you after that or something else |
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lmstrand |
it takes too long to handle multiple concurrent inputs and the time it takes to handle the requests just grows and grows. |
| 12:58 |
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lmstrand |
I don't think I can use that in my case. |
| 12:59 |
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lmstrand |
My script is separate from koha plugins |
| 12:59 |
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kohaputti |
I have not come across such issue with koha's sip2 server, maybe the issue is withing your proxy program? |
| 12:59 |
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lmstrand |
the problem is either in the api endpoint or in my proxy server |
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lmstrand |
I could just skip the sip server processing altogether and return a dummy value and see if the processing time stays stable. |
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kohaputti |
lmstrand, did study socket programming yet? Maybe you are not closing the connection and the amount of available sip server gets to 0 and then it times out and only after that your proxy continues to work |
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lmstrand |
I'm closing the socket connection that the proxy server uses with the api endpoint after the message has been returned from the sip server. |
| 13:02 |
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lmstrand |
But the one that passes messages from my proxy server to the sip server stays open, unless the sip server closes it. |
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kohaputti |
and that is your issue, isn't it? |
| 13:03 |
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kohaputti |
you need to close the connection after being done with your business |
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lmstrand |
It can't be closed, otherwise the session gets closed with the sip server. |
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lmstrand |
And the sip server requires a new login from the sip device |
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lmstrand |
I'm inside a while loop, the one and only connection to the sipserver stays open for as long as the sipserver allows it to stay open. |
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lmstrand |
the first message to the sip server to process, the one that logs in a sipdevice takes 150ms to process on my pc. |
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lmstrand |
If I spam the sip server with the same message over and over again the processing time grows into over half a second. |
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lmstrand |
and beyond. |
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kohaputti |
lmstrand, what you just said above is not how you are supposed to implement the proxy because it doesn't authenticate individual requests then, and also this is a bit off-topic for #koha |
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lmstrand |
True that :D |
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lmstrand |
I was just after a simple timestamp with milliseconds |
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auvajs |
hello.. so I successfully installed koha :) now my first question.. it appears there are several libraries preinstalled. I want to delete them and have only "my" library. I managed to delete some of those that were set by the system but I can't delete some of them - "This library cannot be deleted. Patrons or items are still using it (9 patrons)." .. this is strange since I have no patrons or units at all - |
| 13:42 |
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auvajs |
it's a fresh new install! |
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ashimema |
cait, cait1, cait2.. any of you around? |
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oleonard |
auvajs it sounds like you installed the sample data |
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auvajs |
oleonard: well yes I checked all the buttons, lol |
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oleonard |
auvajs some of the sample data is general, like bibliographic frameworks. Other sample data is really only for testing, like patrons, libraries, etc. |
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oleonard |
auvajs you may want to drop and recreate the database and re-run the installer |
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auvajs |
oleonard: ok tnx I'll try this |
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oleonard |
auvajs you're in the Czech Republic? |
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auvajs |
is there some koha tool or do I need to manually delete it in the database? |
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auvajs |
oleonard: yes |
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* oleonard |
has visited a few times and loved it |
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auvajs |
oleonard: cool :) |
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oleonard |
I don't think there is a tool specifically for dropping and recreating the db, but there is a command that gives you a mysql shell |
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oleonard |
https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]packages#Database |
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auvajs |
since this is a fresh install maybe I can just delete the databse and run the installer again |
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tcohen |
drop the database and create an empty one |
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tcohen |
with the same name |
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ashimema |
next meeting? |
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wahanui |
somebody said next meeting was https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]Next_IRC_meetings |
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oleonard |
That's what I was wondering ashimema |
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ashimema |
ooh.. about now aint it? |
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ashimema |
No Joubu again however :( |
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ashimema |
#startmeeting Development IRC meeting 15 July 2020 |
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tcohen |
where were the instructions for chairing? |
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huginn |
Meeting started Wed Jul 15 14:07:17 2020 UTC. The chair is ashimema. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. |
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huginn |
Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. |
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Topic for #koha is now (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting 15 July 2020) |
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huginn |
The meeting name has been set to 'development_irc_meeting_15_july_2020' |
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ashimema |
#chair cait tcohen |
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huginn |
Warning: Nick not in channel: cait |
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huginn |
Current chairs: ashimema cait tcohen |
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ashimema |
#info Agenda: https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]ting_15_July_2020 |
| 14:08 |
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ashimema |
#topic Introductions |
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Topic for #koha is now Introductions (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting 15 July 2020) |
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oleonard |
QA team? |
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wahanui |
QA team are the real gatekeepers, send cookies their way |
| 14:08 |
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ashimema |
#info Please introduce yourselves with #info to appear in the minutes |
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oleonard |
:( |
| 14:08 |
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ashimema |
#info Martin Renvoize, PTFS Europe |
| 14:08 |
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oleonard |
#info Owen Leonard, Athens County Public Libraries, Ohio, USA |
| 14:08 |
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talljoy |
#info Joy Nelson, Bywater Solutions |
| 14:08 |
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ashimema |
qa team |
| 14:08 |
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ashimema |
cait lucasg |
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ashimema |
matts |
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ashimema |
jajm |
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tcohen |
#info Tomas Cohen Arazi, Theke Solutions |
| 14:09 |
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ashimema |
tuxayo |
| 14:09 |
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thd |
#info Thomas Dukleth, Agogme, New York City |
| 14:09 |
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oleonard |
rmaints? |
| 14:09 |
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wahanui |
lukeG, aleisha, and tuxayo, I SUMMON THEE!! |
| 14:09 |
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lukeG1 |
#info Lucas Gass, ByWater Solutions |
| 14:10 |
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kidclamp |
#info, Nick Clemens, ByWater Solutions |
| 14:10 |
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lukeG1 |
Rmaint going well, we should be good to release on July 22 with a string freeze on the 15th |
| 14:10 |
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jajm |
#info Julian Maurice, BibLibre (not 100% there) |
| 14:10 |
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ashimema |
#topic Announcements |
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Topic for #koha is now Announcements (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting 15 July 2020) |
| 14:10 |
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tcohen |
jajm 80%? |
| 14:11 |
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ashimema |
not sure we have any..? |
| 14:11 |
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ashimema |
#info Nothing to announce |
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ashimema |
#topic Updates from the release manager |
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Topic for #koha is now Updates from the release manager (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting 15 July 2020) |
| 14:11 |
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tcohen |
Joubu is pushing the majors and critical ones today |
| 14:12 |
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ashimema |
#info RM is on holiday but has assigned tcohen and ashimema for urgent issues and is checking in occasionally |
| 14:12 |
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ashimema |
#info Joubu will be pushing majors and criticals later today |
| 14:12 |
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ashimema |
#topic Update from the release maintainers |
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Topic for #koha is now Update from the release maintainers (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting 15 July 2020) |
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ashimema |
your turn lukeG1 ;) |
| 14:13 |
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lukeG1 |
Rmaint going well, we should be good to release on July 22 with a string freeze on the 15th |
| 14:13 |
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lukeG1 |
:) |
| 14:14 |
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ashimema |
#info rmaint is going well, we should be on target for the next releases on July 22nd and string freeze on the 15th |
| 14:14 |
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ashimema |
that probably covers us ;) |
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ashimema |
#topic Updates from the QA team |
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Topic for #koha is now Updates from the QA team (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting 15 July 2020) |
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ashimema |
cait |
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tcohen |
we are great, working more than ever |
| 14:15 |
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ashimema |
anyone else from QA? |
| 14:15 |
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ashimema |
hehe |
| 14:16 |
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ashimema |
#info QA team are working hard but numbers remain high. |
| 14:16 |
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oleonard |
Hm, some editorializing... |
| 14:16 |
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oleonard |
;) |
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tcohen |
hehe |
| 14:16 |
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ashimema |
#info 84 bugs in the queue. |
| 14:17 |
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ashimema |
haha |
| 14:17 |
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ashimema |
did we pick the next bug to hit as a group.. where are we at with the table merges bug now |
| 14:17 |
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tcohen |
I signed it |
| 14:17 |
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ashimema |
It's had tcohen and I SO on it.. I think we were hoping for one more QA person to check it out? |
| 14:18 |
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tcohen |
that's correct |
| 14:18 |
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tcohen |
I also proposed kidclamp and khall_ to work on the circ rules UI revamp on friday |
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| 14:20 |
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ashimema |
#info Looking for a final QA signoff on bug 20271, tochen and ashimema have both done their testing |
| 14:20 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=20271 enhancement, P1 - high, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , Merge deleted biblio, biblioitems, biblio_metadata, and items tables |
| 14:20 |
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ashimema |
haha.. I've been working on that today :) |
| 14:20 |
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oleonard |
davidnind and I have been slowly testing Bug 19532 |
| 14:20 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=19532 new feature, P1 - high, ---, aleisha, Needs Signoff , Recalls for Koha |
| 14:21 |
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ashimema |
#action ashimema is working on qa for bug 15522 |
| 14:21 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=15522 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , New interface for revamped circulation rules |
| 14:22 |
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ashimema |
ok |
| 14:22 |
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ashimema |
#topic Actions from last meeting |
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Topic for #koha is now Actions from last meeting (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting 15 July 2020) |
| 14:22 |
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ashimema |
did I see tuxayo around? |
| 14:23 |
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ashimema |
ok.. lets role is forward |
| 14:23 |
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ashimema |
#action tuxayo - write a proposal for handing over stable branches |
| 14:23 |
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ashimema |
I'm thinking the whole template idea isn't so great at the moment.. I couldn't come up with a good bug report for is so it's perhaps not a worthwhile endeavour at this point |
| 14:23 |
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ashimema |
shelving |
| 14:25 |
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ashimema |
#info Ashimema did a quick draft accessibility guideline to promote the use of `.maincontent` |
| 14:25 |
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ashimema |
#link https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]Coding_Guidelines#.5BDRAFT.5D_ACC1:All_OPAC_pages_require_a_single.27block.27_with_the_.27.maincontent.27_class Draft Guideline |
| 14:25 |
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ashimema |
perhaps we can vote on it next meeting when we are more corate |
| 14:25 |
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ashimema |
tallerjoy.. did you get any further with terminology guidelines? |
| 14:26 |
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talljoy |
i did! |
| 14:26 |
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talljoy |
i sent the proposal on the koha-devel list. |
| 14:26 |
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talljoy |
TERM3: Inclusive Language |
| 14:26 |
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talljoy |
Use inclusive language that promotes a community where everyone feels they are represented. Avoid terms that express or imply negative ideas that are racist, colonialist, or otherwise biased towards groups of people. Refer to the terminology list for terms to use/avoid. |
| 14:26 |
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talljoy |
Example: Instead of using the term blacklist, use deny list which more accurately describes its function. |
| 14:26 |
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ashimema |
oops.. shows I missed it.. my bad |
| 14:26 |
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talljoy |
the email has explanations and resources for those interested in reading more. |
| 14:27 |
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ashimema |
#info Joy send a proposal for an Inclusive language guideline to the mailing lists |
| 14:27 |
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ashimema |
#info Use inclusive language that promotes a community where everyone feels they are represented. Avoid terms that express or imply negative ideas that are racist, colonialist, or otherwise biased towards groups of people. Refer to the terminology list for terms to use/avoid. |
| 14:27 |
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ashimema |
sounds great to me.. |
| 14:27 |
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ashimema |
shall we vote on it.. or just add it as is |
| 14:27 |
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* ashimema |
is happy for the later.. I can't see anyone complaining ;) |
| 14:28 |
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talljoy |
i'm happy to add it to the wiki page |
| 14:28 |
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kidclamp |
add it :-) |
| 14:28 |
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kidclamp |
(informal voting) |
| 14:28 |
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ashimema |
go for it :) |
| 14:28 |
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talljoy |
will do it! |
| 14:28 |
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ashimema |
#action talljoy to add the guideline as proposed to the official guidelines wiki page |
| 14:28 |
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ashimema |
perfect :) |
| 14:29 |
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ashimema |
it's recorded now.. so we'll be poking you next meeting if you havent;.. hehe |
| 14:29 |
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ashimema |
ok.. so I totally forgot about the direct object notation stuff.. I'll carry that one forward |
| 14:30 |
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ashimema |
#action ashimema to propose a guideline ragarding using direction object notation rather than indirect object notation |
| 14:30 |
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ashimema |
no tuxayo again.. so lets carry that one too |
| 14:30 |
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ashimema |
#action tuxayo - prepare draft update to SQL11 to improve consistency for descriptions in kohastructure files |
| 14:30 |
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ashimema |
dang.. forgot to update requirements too |
| 14:30 |
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ashimema |
#action ashimema to update minimum koha requirements on the website |
| 14:31 |
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ashimema |
cait? |
| 14:31 |
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wahanui |
cait is qa manager |
| 14:31 |
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oleonard |
cait1? |
| 14:31 |
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wahanui |
well, cait1 is dding you to the group now too |
| 14:31 |
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kidclamp |
and a darn good one too |
| 14:31 |
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ashimema |
did I miss an email from cait promoting discussion regarding browser support? |
| 14:31 |
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ashimema |
carry again as she's not here to defend herself ;) |
| 14:31 |
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talljoy |
ashimema: already done. https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]nclusive_Language |
| 14:31 |
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ashimema |
#action cait to propose discussion about supported browsers at next meeting (IE especially) |
| 14:32 |
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ashimema |
awesome :) |
| 14:32 |
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ashimema |
#action davidnind Find and update relevant places to record Perl version required, including release notes, manual and wiki (one source of the truth) |
| 14:32 |
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ashimema |
ok.. that's everything carried forward that needs to be I think |
| 14:32 |
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ashimema |
so.... |
| 14:32 |
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ashimema |
#topic General development discussion |
| 14:32 |
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Topic for #koha is now General development discussion (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting 15 July 2020) |
| 14:33 |
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ashimema |
anyone have anything they wish to raise? |
| 14:33 |
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oleonard |
I have lots of fun patches waiting for signoffs and you should test them :) |
| 14:33 |
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ashimema |
bug numbers ;P |
| 14:34 |
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oleonard |
Bug 20168 especially |
| 14:34 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=20168 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , Update of the OPAC bootstrap template to bootstrap v4 |
| 14:34 |
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ashimema |
#info I'd like to thank people for jumping on accessibility bugs.. they've moved remarkably quickly with them going through SO and QA almost as fast as I can write them :) |
| 14:34 |
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ashimema |
#info bug 20168 is looking for testers |
| 14:35 |
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ashimema |
#info Bootstrap v4 for OPAC |
| 14:36 |
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ashimema |
ok.. that'll probably do us |
| 14:36 |
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ashimema |
#info Review of coding guidelines |
| 14:36 |
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cait1 |
#info Katrin Fischer, BSZ, Germany |
| 14:36 |
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cait1 |
sorry for being late |
| 14:36 |
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ashimema |
#topic Review of coding guidelines |
| 14:36 |
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Topic for #koha is now Review of coding guidelines (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting 15 July 2020) |
| 14:36 |
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ashimema |
even |
| 14:37 |
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ashimema |
#info talljoy has now added "TERM3 - Inclusive language" the guidelines :) |
| 14:37 |
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ashimema |
I think that's it on that front |
| 14:37 |
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ashimema |
Now for the hardest topic.. lol |
| 14:37 |
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ashimema |
#topic Set time of next meeting |
| 14:37 |
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Topic for #koha is now Set time of next meeting (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting 15 July 2020) |
| 14:39 |
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ashimema |
19 UTC on 29th? |
| 14:40 |
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kidclamp |
sounds good |
| 14:40 |
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talljoy |
yes |
| 14:41 |
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tcohen |
+1 |
| 14:41 |
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ashimema |
#info Next meeting: July 29, 2020 19 UTC |
| 14:41 |
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ashimema |
brill.. thanks everyone |
| 14:41 |
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ashimema |
#endmeeting |
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Topic for #koha is now Welcome to #koha this channel is for discussion of the Koha project and software http://koha-community.org |
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huginn |
Meeting ended Wed Jul 15 14:41:40 2020 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) |
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huginn |
Minutes: http://meetings.koha-community[…]-07-15-14.07.html |
| 14:41 |
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huginn |
Minutes (text): http://meetings.koha-community[…]0-07-15-14.07.txt |
| 14:41 |
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huginn |
Log: http://meetings.koha-community[…]15-14.07.log.html |
| 14:41 |
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tcohen |
ashimema++ |
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ashimema |
nothing like stepping in at the last minute :P |
| 14:42 |
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tcohen |
talljoy++ # TERM3 |
| 14:42 |
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ashimema |
well done everyone |
| 14:42 |
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ashimema |
lots covered there |
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reiveune |
bye |
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tcohen |
who handles huginn? is it gmcharlt ? |
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gmcharlt |
yup |
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tcohen |
can it set 'https' on the channel subject instead? |
| 17:26 |
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tcohen |
it is not important but worth mentioning |
| 17:26 |
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tcohen |
he |
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* oleonard |
makes it to step 109 of recalls test plan |
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tcohen |
holy, is it that complicated? |
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oleonard |
It is very thorough |
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oleonard |
...as a hedge against continued rejection I imagine |
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auvajs |
Is there a way how to set up which fields in the marc records are/are not required? I'm unable to save a record because there is some stupid field "Transcribing agency" which I don't want to fill in but in the same way I'm unable to save the record... I need to set this field not required.. |
| 18:19 |
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auvajs |
or actually I want all fields not to be required since I will be mostly importing the records |
| 18:20 |
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caroline |
auvajs: Administration > MARC frameworks |
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caroline |
choose your framework, click Actions > MARC structure |
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| 18:21 |
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caroline |
Search for the field that you want to change, and either edit the field or the subfields, and remove the mandatory flag |
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auvajs |
caroline: well I tried to make a new framework with no obligatory fields but when I chose this framework and want to create a new unit by importing it.. there are still many mandatory fields |
| 18:22 |
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caroline |
you probably just removed the mandatory flag at the field level and there are still some subfields that are mandatory (or the opposite) |
| 18:23 |
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caroline |
For example, I think transcribing agency is 040$c, maybe 040 is not mandatory, but 040$c is mandatory |
| 18:24 |
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auvajs |
caroline: ok I get this.. thank you :) |
| 18:25 |
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caroline |
:) |
| 18:49 |
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auvajs |
one more question.. when I want to import a book via Z39.50 the data looks totally garbled.. like this: 20090203d2008^^^^m^^y0czey0103^^^^|| |
| 18:50 |
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auvajs |
is there a way how to make it human readable? |
| 18:50 |
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oleonard |
It looks garbled after importing it? |
| 18:51 |
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caroline |
that looks like 'raw' MARC, maybe? |
| 18:51 |
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auvajs |
oleonard: both in the search window and in Add MARC record page |
| 18:52 |
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oleonard |
I wonder if it could be a problem with the encoding setting in Z39.50 server administration? |
| 18:53 |
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caroline |
my hypothesis too |
| 18:54 |
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caroline |
or maybe the type of MARC, like if you're trying to import UNIMARC? |
| 18:56 |
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auvajs |
the database should be in UTF and I also chose UTF encoding in the server settings |
| 18:58 |
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caroline |
maybe try MARC8 anyway, just to check... |
| 18:58 |
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caroline |
(I don't trust Z39.50 server information) |
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auvajs |
I dont even have MARC8 option in the server settings |
| 18:59 |
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caroline |
oh, then iso something |
| 19:00 |
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auvajs |
MARC21/USMARC and it works well :) |
| 19:01 |
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caroline |
good! |
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mtompset |
Greetings, #koha. |
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mtompset |
@seen cait |
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huginn |
mtompset: cait was last seen in #koha 22 hours, 9 minutes, and 59 seconds ago: <cait> looks misaligned |
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mtompset |
@seen oleonard |
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huginn |
mtompset: oleonard was last seen in #koha 26 minutes and 35 seconds ago: <oleonard> I wonder if it could be a problem with the encoding setting in Z39.50 server administration? |
| 19:19 |
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auvajs |
btw is there a way how to have a list of all books in the database? |
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caroline |
you can go in Search > Item search and search for everything |
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caroline |
or make a report |
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caroline |
If you have a lot, the item search might be too slow and/or abort |
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caroline |
then you're better with a report |
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mtompset |
I think dynamically loaded html/js via js doesn't run CSS right on mobile. :( |
| 19:22 |
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oleonard |
Can you elaborate mtompset? |
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auvajs |
caroline: is this in administration only? because I have no clue how to to this on the library homepage |
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mtompset |
To make 6815 easier to tweak/modify, I put the modal into its own .pl/.tt combination. |
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caroline |
auvajs: from the home screen, click on Search, it will bring you to Advanced search, but right under the title, it says Go to item search, click on that |
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mtompset |
And that gets dynamically loaded into the modal before it is displayed. |
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caroline |
don't put any limits and click search |
| 19:24 |
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mtompset |
But the js code for the webcam stuff runs wrong. |
| 19:24 |
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caroline |
for the report, it's in Reports > Guided reports |
| 19:24 |
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caroline |
Make a report for the Catalogue with no limits, you should get everything |
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oleonard |
Sorry mtompset I'm interested in giving it a try but I've got to be afk for a while |
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auvajs |
caroline: http://knihovna.pravnickyslovnik.cz/ this is the library homepage.. maybe I'm blind but I don't see any Go to the item search :O |
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oleonard-away |
auvajs it's only in the staff interface |
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caroline |
ah, I was talking about the staff side |
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caroline |
but from here, you can get everything in advanced search and check all the items types |
| 19:28 |
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auvajs |
is there a way how to make this accessible to the public? |
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caroline |
(you only have one, so if you do a search with no search term and check Knižnà publikace , you should get everything |
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caroline |
make sure you index your stuff though, I'm not getting any results |
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auvajs |
I didn't install cirussearch yet, is this needed for indexing? |
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caroline |
I'm only familiar with zebra When you go in administration > Global system preferences > Search engine, what is the option that is selected? |
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auvajs |
Use following search engine: Zebra |
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caroline |
ok so then you need to use zebra to index |
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caroline |
do you have access to the command line terminal? |
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auvajs |
caroline: yes |
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caroline |
ok, maybe someone else can help you with the specific commands... I've been told my installation is "vintage" and I don't use the same commands as everyone else, ;) |
| 19:36 |
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caroline |
probably something like koha-rebuild-zebra |
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caroline |
https://koha-community.org/faq[…]ch-stuff-up-help/ |
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auvajs |
np :) I'm just trying to run this software for my mother's local parish library.. but maybe koha is too robust for this purposes |
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caroline |
If you understand this, it might be helpful too https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]bleshooting_Zebra |
| 19:38 |
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caroline |
It's pretty advanced though |
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tcohen |
auvajs it looks like many records lack the title field |
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tcohen |
hence it is not building the line |
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tcohen |
link on the search results |
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caroline |
ooh, no title is not good... |
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tcohen |
http://knihovna.pravnickyslovn[…]pl?biblionumber=2 |
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caroline |
I think this was a record that was imported with the wrong MARC format |
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caroline |
the title seems to be in 300 instead of 245, and maybe the author is in 210 instead of 100 |
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davidnind |
meeting? |
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wahanui |
meeting is, like, over :) |
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davidnind |
who is willing to chair today? |
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caroline |
totally forgot that there was a meeting |
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caroline |
I can chair if needed |
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caroline |
is anyone around? |
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davidnind |
I'll start and we'll see who turns up! |
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caroline |
ok! |
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davidnind |
#startmeeting General IRC meeting 15 July 2020 |
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huginn |
Meeting started Wed Jul 15 20:03:13 2020 UTC. The chair is davidnind. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. |
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huginn |
Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. |
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Topic for #koha is now (Meeting topic: General IRC meeting 15 July 2020) |
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huginn |
The meeting name has been set to 'general_irc_meeting_15_july_2020' |
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davidnind |
#info Agenda https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]ting_15_July_2020 |
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davidnind |
#chair caroline |
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huginn |
Current chairs: caroline davidnind |
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davidnind |
#topic Introductions |
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Topic for #koha is now Introductions (Meeting topic: General IRC meeting 15 July 2020) |
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davidnind |
#info David Nind, Wellington, New Zealand |
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caroline |
#info Caroline Cyr La Rose, inlibro, Montreal, Québec |
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caroline |
i'll try to ping some ppl |
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caroline |
tcohen was just here |
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caroline |
cait |
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davidnind |
we could have a documentation meeting :) |
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caroline |
I wanted to talk to the docs team about the images |
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caroline |
ashimema |
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wahanui |
ashimema is literally just writing up the release anouncement ;) |
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lisettelatah |
#info Lisette Scheer, Latah County Library District, Moscow Idaho |
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caroline |
kidclamp |
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wahanui |
hmmm... kidclamp is the guy with an amazing moustache |
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caroline |
lol he is! |
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caroline |
Joubu |
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davidnind |
I'll give it a few more minutes and see if anyone else turns up! ( looks like it might be a quick one!) |
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davidnind |
I think Joubu is on holiday |
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davidnind |
#topic Announcements |
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Topic for #koha is now Announcements (Meeting topic: General IRC meeting 15 July 2020) |
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davidnind |
Any announcements? |
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lisettelatah |
The annual Koha-US Conference has been moved online with the first day on September 21 2020. We are working on the schedule. We will hold it in McKinney Texas in 2021. |
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caroline |
#info The annual Koha-US Conference has been moved online with the first day on September 21 2020. We are working on the schedule. We will hold it in McKinney Texas in 2021. |
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davidnind |
thanks lisettelatah! |
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caroline |
(i didn't feel like summarizing hehe!) |
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davidnind |
great! |
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thd |
#info Thomas Dukleth, Agogme, New York city |
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caroline |
lisettelatah you'll let us know for registration? |
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lisettelatah |
Yes, we will send out information about registration when we have the schedule. |
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caroline |
#info schedule TBA |
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davidnind |
lisettelatah++ |
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davidnind |
I don't think anyone is around from Catalyst IT yet, so no Kohacon20 update |
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davidnind |
#topic Update on releases |
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Topic for #koha is now Update on releases (Meeting topic: General IRC meeting 15 July 2020) |
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kathryn |
#info Kathryn Tyree |
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kathryn |
(apologies for lateness) |
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davidnind |
Hi kathryn! |
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kathryn |
hi :D |
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davidnind |
no worries! |
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kathryn |
let me know when is a good time to say something about Kohacon |
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davidnind |
Now is good, we are on announcments |
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kathryn |
Oh sure then :) |
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kathryn |
We're pretty excited and there's lots going on so... |
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cait |
late for 2 meetings in a day, sorry! |
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cait |
#info Katrin Fischer, BSZ, Germany |
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kathryn |
We're currently re-working the programme and hope to "re-launch" it next week |
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caroline |
#info new Kohacon20 schedule TBA |
| 20:15 |
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kathryn |
A couple of new sponsorships have been confirmed with Linux Australia and FE Technologies, we'll promote our sponsors more soon |
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oleonard-away |
#info Owen Leonard, Athens County Public Libraries, Ohio, USA |
| 20:15 |
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kathryn |
We'd appreciate more registrations - there is now an option to register and say you're attending online or in person for those in NZ |
| 20:16 |
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kathryn |
We're working on how to best support speakers and somekind of online social-ness |
| 20:16 |
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caroline |
#info register to kohacon20 if you intend on attengin online or in perso |
| 20:16 |
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cait |
kathryn: i already took vacation for this week :) (making up the bad time difference) |
| 20:17 |
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kathryn |
We have a mix of pre-recorded and live presentation from our Northern hemisphere colleagues :) |
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kathryn |
hehe hi cait :) |
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kathryn |
We will have online and in-person workshop streams |
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oleonard |
https://2020.kohacon.org/posts/registration/ |
| 20:18 |
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kathryn |
Any questions? (sorry I forgot about #info that whole time) |
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davidnind |
all good! |
| 20:18 |
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caroline |
#info We will have online and in-person workshop streams |
| 20:18 |
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kathryn |
thank you caroline I'll let you do it if that's ok :) |
| 20:18 |
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davidnind |
#info register at https://2020.kohacon.org/posts/registration/ |
| 20:18 |
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thd |
Do you have a particular streaming system in mind? |
| 20:19 |
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caroline |
yup, I don't have anything else to bring to this meeting, so I parrot the participants hehe |
| 20:19 |
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davidnind |
Thanks kathryn for the update! |
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kathryn |
Hi thd, I think we're using YouTube like the USA yser group |
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kathryn |
We have an online learning/videoconf/presenting platform called big blue button |
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kathryn |
We took a lot of confidence from how nice the USA event went a couple months back :) |
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thd |
https://bigbluebutton.org/ |
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kathryn |
(I stop now :) ) |
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kathryn |
yup |
| 20:22 |
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davidnind |
Great to hear what is happening, also thanks to koha-US for their online conference in April |
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caroline |
looks nice |
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kathryn |
yeah, users can grab the microphone, and we can make groups to socialise in during breaks for those who are online etc |
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kathryn |
have a practice room for speakers, it offers recording, audience members can grab the mic |
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kathryn |
so we can also do things like have a recorded presentation but live preseneters |
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kathryn |
I meant to say live questions :) |
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cait |
looking forward to it |
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kathryn |
thanks cait! me too! (I really stop now?) |
| 20:25 |
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davidnind |
thanks kathryn, great to here what is happening and being as inclusive as possible with our global community |
| 20:25 |
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davidnind |
Are there any release maintainers around, or anyone who attended the development meeting who can give us an update? |
| 20:26 |
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oleonard |
There wasn't really any news... |
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kathryn |
thanks davidnind, I'm hopeful it will more accessible to a much bigger group :) |
| 20:27 |
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davidnind |
congratulations to the new release maintainers getting their first maintenance releases out in June (aleisha, tuxayo, lukeG) |
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davidnind |
thanks oleonard! |
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davidnind |
#topic Browser support issues |
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Topic for #koha is now Browser support issues (Meeting topic: General IRC meeting 15 July 2020) |
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aleisha |
HI! |
| 20:29 |
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aleisha |
#info Aleisha Amohia, Catalyst IT New Zealand |
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caroline |
#link https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=25803 |
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huginn |
Bug 25803: major, P5 - low, ---, dcook, RESOLVED WONTFIX, Internet Explorer: unable to save patron edits or view patron checkouts |
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cait |
this one was marked resolved wontfix now |
| 20:29 |
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cait |
but i wondered if we should update the notes int he manual |
| 20:29 |
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cait |
i remember us deprecating... IE 7? |
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caroline |
I saw, but it's the one in the agenda... |
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cait |
oleonard: maybe you can help out? |
| 20:30 |
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cait |
yep, I added the topic, just trying to explain my thoughts there |
| 20:30 |
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cait |
the manual states: "When working in the Koha staff client it is strongly recommended that you use an up-to-date version of either Mozilla Firefox or Google Chrome. Koha’s staff client may not work well in Microsoft Internet Explorer, especially older versions." |
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talljoy |
#info Joy Nelson, ByWater Solutions |
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oleonard |
I think what we're talking about is dropping support for the "Internet Explorer" product altogether |
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cait |
i'd not oppose |
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cait |
was just thinking we shoudl put things in writing somewhere |
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oleonard |
Since their "Edge" browser has been around for a while and now comes in a Chromium-based version too |
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cait |
we had bug 20062 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=20062 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, CLOSED FIXED, Remove support for Internet Explorer 7 in the staff client |
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caroline |
I think the only opposition was from places where they are locked in Microsoft products |
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cait |
they would ahve Edge available to them now is what we think |
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cait |
as a Microsoft option |
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caroline |
ah ok |
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oleonard |
Edge was first released in 2015 |
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cait |
should we propose makin git official? |
| 20:33 |
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cait |
no support for internet explorer for staff side? |
| 20:33 |
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talljoy |
yes please |
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oleonard |
+1 |
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caroline |
no problem on our side |
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aleisha |
+1 |
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cait |
+1 |
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davidnind |
+1 |
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lisettelatah |
+1 |
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talljoy |
+1 |
| 20:35 |
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davidnind |
Okay, we all agree we won't support it, should we officially announce to the mailing list? (any see what reaction there is, if any) |
| 20:37 |
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cait |
we could and then update the manual maybe? |
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oleonard |
I think that sounds good |
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caroline |
cait: what would you change in the manual? That it *doesn't work* with IE instead of it might not work? |
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cait |
it will probably take me a while |
| 20:38 |
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davidnind |
#info to announce IE 11 is no longer supported and update relevant areas, including the wiki and manual where required (davidnind) |
| 20:38 |
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caroline |
I don't mind chaging the manual, but I'm not sure what is wrong with the current sentence |
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cait |
i'd probably put in a 'internet explorer is not supported by the Koha Community. |
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cait |
or something like ti |
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cait |
or not officially supported? |
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caroline |
ok I can do that |
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davidnind |
caroline++ |
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cait |
aleisha++ #string freeze |
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cait |
caroline++ thank you |
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caroline |
#action caroline will change the message in the manual saying that the staff side doesn't work with IE |
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davidnind |
thanks cait for raising! |
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thd |
The alternative of Edge browser for Microsoft only environments should be noted. |
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davidnind |
#topic General business |
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Topic for #koha is now General business (Meeting topic: General IRC meeting 15 July 2020) |
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davidnind |
Any general business anyone wants to raise? |
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davidnind |
#topic Next meeting |
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Topic for #koha is now Next meeting (Meeting topic: General IRC meeting 15 July 2020) |
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davidnind |
5 August 2020 at 14:00 UTC? (Get back to first week of the month + it has been at 20:00 UTC for a while) |
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tuxayo |
Hi, appologies, couldn't attend to both meetings. Got a hard time since 10 days to work on Koha. |
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tuxayo |
No worries. I'm getting back on the rails :) |
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tuxayo |
See you o/ |
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davidnind |
#info Next meeting: 5 August 2020, 14:00 UTC |
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davidnind |
#endmeeting |
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Topic for #koha is now Welcome to #koha this channel is for discussion of the Koha project and software https://koha-community.org |
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Meeting ended Wed Jul 15 20:45:32 2020 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) |
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Minutes: http://meetings.koha-community[…]-07-15-20.03.html |
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huginn |
Minutes (text): http://meetings.koha-community[…]0-07-15-20.03.txt |
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Log: http://meetings.koha-community[…]15-20.03.log.html |
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davidnind |
Thanks everyone! |
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davidnind |
caroline++ |
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caroline |
thanks davidnind++ |
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davidnind |
thansk caroline for doing the #infos and #actions |
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cait |
good night all! |
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kathryn |
seeyas later! |
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aleisha |
thanks all, sorry to have arrived late! |
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davidnind |
no worries aleisha! |
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