IRC log for #koha, 2020-07-14

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00:44 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed!
00:44 wahanui Congratulations!
00:44 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D9 build #1382: FIXED in 40 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]a_Master_D9/1382/
00:49 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed!
00:49 wahanui Congratulations!
00:49 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_U20 build #36: FIXED in 46 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]ha_Master_U20/36/
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09:48 ashimema mornin' #koha friends
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10:27 * cait1 waves
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10:41 cait1 khall_: I was wondering ifcould interest you in QA'ing a guaranteses bug
10:41 cait1 um and hi :)
10:42 cait1 noooo... don't run away
10:42 cait1 *sad*
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11:07 enkidu Hi all, does anyone know how to install old version using koha-common. I want to install 19.05.01 version for example
11:08 cait1 hm like old packages?
11:11 enkidu Yes, in some cases, we need to install a test server, with old version
11:14 mtj hey #koha
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11:15 mtj enkidu: we actually dont save older koha .deb packages, so you might have to build a new package from source :/
11:16 cait1 thx mtj
11:16 cait1 mtj++ :)
11:17 mtj ..or you could use koha-testing-docker to test out an older version of 19.05.x
11:18 mtj hi cait1 :0)
11:21 mtj enkidu:[…]ha-testing-docker
11:22 enkidu it should be almost same. so testing docker is not a solution in my case. I'm trying something else. If I succeed I can put it on wiki.
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11:42 oleonard Hi #koha
11:43 enkidu Hi oleonard !
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12:18 tcohen morning
12:19 tcohen enkidu use this to build your own packages
12:19 tcohen
12:23 mtj tcohen++ very nice ^
12:23 mtj enkidu: i built a 19.05.01 package here, if you like... ->[…]4233748.60ff677e/
12:27 mtj hi tcohen: the '' line can be removed now from koha-dpkg instructions
12:27 tcohen or changed
12:32 mtj yes, that too :)
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12:46 * ashimema head hurts again
12:48 cait1 same
12:49 * ashimema is dumping dbic trace to console and can see his test rows getting created.. then the query to find them failing to find them.. but can't see why :(
12:49 ashimema oooh
12:50 ashimema when did `!=` exclude NULL ?
12:50 enkidu thanks mtj!
12:51 cait1 in sql i think alays
12:51 ashimema lol
12:51 cait1 not sure about dbic?
12:51 ashimema my bad
12:52 enkidu and thanks tcohen !
12:54 ashimema how do I forget such simple things
12:54 cait1 stress?
12:54 ashimema perhaps
12:54 cait1 or getting older *ducks and runs*
12:55 cait1 but i am in the same boat about forgetting simple things, so ... :)
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12:55 cait1 hi caroline :)
12:55 caroline good morning!
12:57 * ashimema is now wondering where else he's made that mistake
12:58 ashimema remarkably.. it's seems I haven'T
12:58 ashimema WIN
12:58 ashimema :)
13:04 tcohen ashimema take a break
13:04 tcohen haha
13:04 ashimema hehe
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14:18 enkidu Is it usual to give permission to staff to allow discharge request even if patron have some fines and books ?
14:33 oleonard enkidu sounds like a library policy question rather than a technical one
14:41 enkidu our customers donot want this feature, I wonder whether other libraries do use this.
14:44 tcohen you mean that the default is that Koha allows overriding those situations and you would like it to be configurable?
14:44 tcohen I would agree
14:44 oleonard enkidu can you explain the circumstances under which this might occur?
14:45 oleonard I don't see an option for staff to override. I only see the message "Cannot edit discharge: the patron has checked out items." in the staff interface.
14:49 enkidu There is a Allow button in our case
14:50 enkidu Patron has some fines and checkout items but staff can allow to discharge
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14:56 oleonard enkidu: What version of Koha is it?
14:56 enkidu 19.05.01
14:56 enkidu I were not able to find a bug related with this.
14:56 caroline I just tried it in my 19.05.04 and I can indeed issue a discharge even if a user has fines
14:56 caroline but not if a user has checkouts
14:58 caroline I think it only checks for checkouts? b/c the message says "... certifies that Mr. X has returned all items"
15:04 caroline I admit I don't know of any library that uses this feature, so I'm not entirely sure how it's supposed to work, but I would assume a patron file has to be squeaky clean (no checkouts, no outstanding fines) in order to issue a discharge
15:05 ashimema hmm
15:06 ashimema is it just me or is there an atomicupdate file left over in master at the moment?
15:09 oleonard Yup
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15:14 enkidu caroline: It only checks checkouts , not the fine, I've tested in 20.05. now. It should also check fines in my opinion
15:15 caroline enkidu: I encourage you to create a bug report on bugzilla
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15:16 enkidu yes, let me do it
15:19 enkidu we've  Bug 25986 for that now!
15:19 caroline enkidu++
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18:52 oleonard Always cool to think of the big part of your patch you forgot just after you submit it.
18:52 tcohen hahaha
18:55 oleonard Anyway... trying again with Bug 22399
18:55 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=22399 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , Improve responsive behavior of the basic marc editor
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19:27 ashimema I do that literally all the time oleonard
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20:33 * oleonard goes back in time to convince Leonardo Da Vinci to create a patch-testing automaton
20:35 * oleonard goes forward in time to convince Elon Musk that making a patch-testing robot will be more impressive to pop stars than shooting a car into space
20:46 caroline Is the option to create a label batch still available under Tools > Manage staged MARC records[…]belfromstaged.png
20:46 caroline I don't have it in my Koha and I'm wondering if it's something I have to turn on
20:47 caroline ah, I have 0 items... duh
20:52 cait yep
20:52 cait imade it only show up when there are items
20:52 cait because it would explode otherwise
21:08 caroline When you go into Tools > Label creator > New > Label batch, are the radio buttons misaligned or is it just me?
21:08 cait looks misaligned
21:08 oleonard me too
21:09 * oleonard was looking for something to do
21:09 caroline lol!
21:09 caroline I'll add it and let you know the bug no
21:10 * oleonard suspects Bug 15766
21:10 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=15766 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, aleisha, CLOSED FIXED, Give label and patron card batches a description
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21:13 caroline bug 25987
21:13 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=25987 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , Radio buttons are misaligned in New label batches
21:13 caroline Wasn't sure what else to put in the description...
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21:35 oleonard caroline: One option would have been a moody poem about how the bug made you feel.
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21:36 caroline Unfortunately, I don't have Fred's talent for poetry
21:37 oleonard heh
21:38 oleonard Well that patch chased away the existential dread for a few minutes. What now...
21:41 aleisha i rebased recalls!
21:41 aleisha probably too late to get into this release sadly :(
21:46 oleonard For 20.11?
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21:53 aleisha yeah
22:02 caroline 20.11 is still a ways away
22:02 aleisha oops true im getting myself all mixed up
22:05 caroline do not lose hope!
22:12 aleisha hehe #GetRecallsIntoMaster
22:13 hayley omg let's get it trending
22:13 hayley #aleisha2020
22:14 aleisha haha oh NO
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23:10 aleisha ive set strict_sql_modes to 1 in etc/koha-conf.xml, is there anything else i need to do to enable this?
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