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Congratulations! |
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oleonard, I have noticed that my attempts at contributing so far have been offhanded and I will take care to be attentive from here on. |
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hello |
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Bonjout |
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hey guys does anyone else have missing perl module Locale:Language ? |
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version 2.07 |
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Congratulations! |
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Yippee, build fixed! |
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Congratulations! |
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Null404 |
hello there |
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wahanui |
Greetings, programs! |
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I'm looking for SQL report that show how many patrons borrowed books form 1.01 to today |
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Null404: Maybe adapt this one https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]ons_in_Date_Range |
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oleonard |
Hi all |
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ashimema |
mornin' |
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tcohen |
late morning |
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tcohen I'm working on an alternate patch for Bug 25909 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=25909 major, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Failed QA , Recent change to datatables JS in the OPAC causes errors |
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tcohen |
oleonard thank you |
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Bug 25909 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=25909 major, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , Recent change to datatables JS in the OPAC causes errors |
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Joubu |
tcohen or ashimema: please review and merge https://gitlab.com/koha-commun[…]erge_requests/141 |
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Joubu |
(now, please?) |
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reiveune |
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kidclamp |
Joubu++ |
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waves to kidclamp |
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oleonard |
Anyone else see an error in the OPAC cart? DBIx::Class::Storage::DBI::_dbh_execute(): Unknown column 'opac_option' in 'where clause' at /kohadevbox/koha/Koha/Objects.pm line 144 |
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at /usr/share/perl5/DBIx/Class/Exception.pm line 77 |
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oleonard |
Wait... Bug 25402 depended on Bug 5087 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=25402 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to master , Put OPAC cart download options into dropdown menu |
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Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5087 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, aleisha, Failed QA , Option to not show CSV profiles in OPAC |
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ashimema |
Reviewed, looks good to me |
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ashimema |
Cool, you noticed and merged. 😀 |
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caroline |
hello everyone! |
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davidnind |
hi caroline! |
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caroline |
my training this afternoon was postponed! |
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davidnind |
excellent! |
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wahanui |
darn tootin' it is. |
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caroline |
It also means I have some time to do documentation! |
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thd |
Is a meeting about to start? |
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caroline |
thd yes |
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thd |
I have to go to work shortly. |
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thd |
People are also working in my building making a mess spreading paint everywhere doing more harm than good. |
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wahanui |
okay, thd. |
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caroline |
davidnind: did you still want to chair? |
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thd |
I am also trying to partially move out to have my old plaster ceiling, floors etc. fixed before it all comes crashing down on me. |
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wahanui |
okay, thd. |
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davidnind |
I'm happy to relinquish that role today :) |
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caroline |
davidnind++ |
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davidnind |
#startmeeting Documentation IRC meeting 2 July 2020 |
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huginn |
Meeting started Thu Jul 2 19:04:15 2020 UTC. The chair is davidnind. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. |
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huginn |
Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. |
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Topic for #koha is now (Meeting topic: Documentation IRC meeting 2 July 2020) |
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huginn |
The meeting name has been set to 'documentation_irc_meeting_2_july_2020' |
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davidnind |
chair caroline |
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davidnind |
#info Agenda https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]eting_2_July_2020 |
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davidnind |
#topic Introductions |
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Topic for #koha is now Introductions (Meeting topic: Documentation IRC meeting 2 July 2020) |
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davidnind |
#info David Nind, Wellington, New Zealand |
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caroline |
#info Caroline Cyr La Rose, inlibro, Canada |
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thd |
#info Thomas Dukleth, Agogme, New York City [mostly absent as I prepare to go to work] |
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davidnind |
#topic Updates |
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Topic for #koha is now Updates (Meeting topic: Documentation IRC meeting 2 July 2020) |
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davidnind |
Looks like only a few of us today :) |
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davidnind |
I managed to get through my action points from the last meeting! |
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davidnind |
Any project updates? |
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caroline |
not from me |
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davidnind |
For me, I've been working slowly on a couple of them |
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davidnind |
Installation guide - have an outline from existing install guides, so starting to copy and paste content in now |
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davidnind |
For git guide, have been looking at other projects do - a post to the development list didn't have any ideas on how we could improve the git process (https://lists.koha-community.o[…]June/045802.html) |
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davidnind |
aprt from that, nothing more to add |
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davidnind |
For whats been done, lost of activity over the last month - Caroline, Kelly, Alexander |
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davidnind |
and lots more tasks added to Taiga :-D |
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caroline |
I've had some time to work on docs so I'm trying to catch up |
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davidnind |
caroline++ |
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davidnind |
great |
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caroline |
I'm still trying to get used to not forgetting to cherry-pick to 20.05 |
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davidnind |
easy to forget |
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caroline |
and still learning to manage git |
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davidnind |
I've been playing around with the structure, but nothing to share yet |
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davidnind |
I seem to master it, don't do anything for while, then I can't remember basic commands! |
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davidnind |
working on testing patches helps a little |
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davidnind |
I updated the theme for 20.11 as well, do you think we should do this for the older versions? |
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davidnind |
hi lucyvh! |
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caroline |
If it's possible to do them all easily, yes |
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caroline |
but if not, we'll just wait for 20.11 |
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davidnind |
it is easy to do |
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davidnind |
#action davidnind to update manual theme for 20.05, 19.11 and 19.05 |
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tuxayo |
davidnind++ |
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caroline |
It looks really good https://koha-community.org/manual/20.11/en/html/ |
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davidnind |
wasn't sure about changing the colour to green in the top left corner, but looks okay I think |
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caroline |
yes, it looks great! |
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caroline |
Maybe the 20.11 is not very visible though |
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lucyvh |
Hi there all |
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davidnind |
I'll see if I can fix that |
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tuxayo |
Looks more Koha-ish :) |
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davidnind |
hi lucyvh! |
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lucyvh |
I am here just sorting dinner at the same time! |
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caroline |
hi lucyvh! |
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davidnind |
only us today... |
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tuxayo |
hi o/ |
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davidnind |
multitasking again! |
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lucyvh |
I haven't been able to do much recently I'm afraid |
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davidnind |
I can only do one thing at a time, if I'm lucky |
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davidnind |
no worries |
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davidnind |
#topic Content development guidelines |
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Topic for #koha is now Content development guidelines (Meeting topic: Documentation IRC meeting 2 July 2020) |
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lucyvh |
The new theme looks great btw |
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davidnind |
thanks |
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davidnind |
contractions such as don't vs do not - do they create issues for translation? |
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tuxayo |
I would guess not. |
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caroline |
not in my case |
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caroline |
cait? |
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wahanui |
cait is really good at running into things |
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davidnind |
I was under the impression they do (from reading other project's style guides), but we use them a lot with the system preferences |
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cait |
I am awake! |
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cait |
oh meeting? |
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wahanui |
meeting is over :) |
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tuxayo |
wahanui: liar! |
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wahanui |
tuxayo: i'm not following you... |
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caroline |
afaik, they don't break the translating system, but I don't know if specific languages have problems with it |
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caroline |
in French it's not a problem |
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cait |
i am probably too slow readin back - was there a question? |
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tuxayo |
«contractions such as don't vs do not - do they create issues for translation?» |
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cait |
no |
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davidnind |
thanks cait! |
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cait |
there is only one problem i can think of, but we prevent it with a coding guideline |
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cait |
we have a coding guideline that double quotes sohuld be used around strings, so we can have the single quotes for french and the short forms inside |
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cait |
string "don't" works, but 'don't' wouldn't - but as I said, coding guidelines should help with that |
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caroline |
In french I know the « » cause problems, but " and ' are ok |
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tuxayo |
https://koha-fr.org/traduction-conseils-generaux/ |
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cait |
yep, in general quotes should be fine |
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tuxayo |
" seems to be a problem |
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cait |
it's probably the javascript case |
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cait |
in html it doesn't matter |
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cait |
if you have double quote outside, double quotes inside can cause issues |
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tuxayo |
Yeah, avoiding " is for JS |
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cait |
yep |
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cait |
but i think that's nothing we need to worry about for the manual whatsoever |
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davidnind |
excellent, so we can leave as is for the manual as is |
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caroline |
I'd still like to eventually have a guideline |
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caroline |
Do we write "button" or 'button' for example |
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cait |
to use double or single for quoting? |
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cait |
ah |
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cait |
i like italic |
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cait |
:) |
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caroline |
lol! just making it more complicated |
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cait |
seriously, i thin a lot of quotes often make things harder to read, i prefer italic for things 'written in the gui' in my docs |
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caroline |
so that means using *? |
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cait |
probably a little late for the manual :) I think so |
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caroline |
So far, I've mostly used single quotes, but I'm very used to using double in real life so I might mix them up |
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cait |
i tihnk i copied that style from some technical documentation books |
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cait |
similar here |
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davidnind |
I have a list of things to propose, for interface elements was going to suggest bold, such as Click OK <== OK would be bolded |
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cait |
Germany uses double |
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caroline |
ok we can do bold... maybe not retroactively, but like capitalization, correct them when you see them |
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caroline |
bold is **? |
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davidnind |
I think so |
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cait |
i thin if it stands out too much, we could still apply some css :) |
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cait |
as long as we format somewhat consistently |
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cait |
it should be fine |
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davidnind |
I'll come back by next meeting with some suggestions, was going to base on google developer guide for (Apache 2 licenced) so we can use (https://developers.google.com/style/) |
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davidnind |
#info Contractions such as don't do not cause problems for translation |
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lucyvh |
Good idea to base it on an existing standard |
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* cait |
agrees |
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caroline |
cool |
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caroline |
davidnind++ |
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davidnind |
since google things are web-based, and Koha is, I thought it would make a bit more sense |
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tuxayo |
+1 |
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davidnind |
the microsoft style guide covers a lot more, such as desktop applications, so not quite as relevant |
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davidnind |
#action davidnind to come back with documentation style guide suggestions for next next meeting for discussion (to send around for discussion before) |
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davidnind |
I seem to be giving myself more things to do! |
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davidnind |
git branch names - do we change master to main? (sounds like it is easy to do https://www.hanselman.com/blog[…]asterToMain.aspx) |
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caroline |
what is the purpose? |
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cait |
inclusive language |
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caroline |
ah! |
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caroline |
makes sense |
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cait |
master slave as used in tech context is not good |
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davidnind |
beat me to it! |
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cait |
sorry! |
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cait |
i guess you also can explain it better |
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davidnind |
no, that seems fine |
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caroline |
then sure, we can change it |
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lucyvh |
Agreed, should be changed |
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caroline |
I don't feel comfortable doing it though, afraid I'll mees up everything |
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cait |
same |
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cait |
i think people will also have to do something with their local repos |
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cait |
or maybe not - i really don't know, but i have seen other projects have been doing it |
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caroline |
yeah, I was just thinking that |
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davidnind |
I'll experiment with anther repository to make sure it works, then do and let everyone know |
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caroline |
in .git/config or something |
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cait |
davidnind++ |
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davidnind |
I can check with rangi just to make sure - will add as an issues in GitLab |
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davidnind |
just to make sure we get it right |
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davidnind |
#info agreed to change terminology to be more inclusive (master ==> main) |
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davidnind |
#action davidnind to open issue to change repository branch naming and advise documentation list in advance and once done |
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tuxayo |
> master slave as used in tech context is not good |
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tuxayo |
That really depends of the culture, the relationship with language changes. (though some are more problematic that others) |
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tuxayo |
main is great as it's still gives a good meaning to the branch so that's a good change as it should fit everyone. |
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davidnind |
thanks tuxayo! |
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davidnind |
any other content development guideline things? |
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* tuxayo |
did nothing |
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* thd |
should have left for work 10 min. ago. |
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davidnind |
#topic Next steps |
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Topic for #koha is now Next steps (Meeting topic: Documentation IRC meeting 2 July 2020) |
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davidnind |
over to you caroline... |
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caroline |
I checked the release notes for 20.11 last week I think and there wasn't much there yet, so continue on 20.05 |
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caroline |
I'm working through taiga, trying to get as much in as possible while I have time |
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davidnind |
caroline++ |
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* cait |
wishes there was ways to 'make' more time in a day |
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caroline |
https://tree.taiga.io/project/[…]cs-1805/epic/1117 |
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cait |
my new coworker is currently proof reading the German translation and has found some cases where the sysprefs have been renamed |
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cait |
where do i report? taiga or bugzilla? |
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tuxayo |
~ â¯â¯â¯ make time ✘ 1 |
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tuxayo |
make: *** No rule to make target 'time'. Stop. |
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tuxayo |
:( |
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cait |
can i just patch or should i always file? |
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caroline |
if you have time, just patch, if you can't patch right away and don't want to forget, file in bz |
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tuxayo |
cait: you mean the English manual has the old syspref name? |
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davidnind |
#topic Set time of next meeting |
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Topic for #koha is now Set time of next meeting (Meeting topic: Documentation IRC meeting 2 July 2020) |
19:58 |
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cait |
yes |
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cait |
ok thx caroline |
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davidnind |
as long as this time still suits everyone, 6 August 2020, 19:00 UTC? |
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caroline |
I'll probably be on vacation, but I don't mind missing one meeting |
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davidnind |
we can do a week later |
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caroline |
13 would be good for me |
20:01 |
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davidnind |
we'll do that then |
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davidnind |
#info Next meeting: 13 August 2020, 19:00 UTC? |
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davidnind |
#endmeeting |
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Topic for #koha is now Welcome to #koha this channel is for discussion of the Koha project and software http://koha-community.org |
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huginn |
Meeting ended Thu Jul 2 20:01:52 2020 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) |
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huginn |
Minutes: http://meetings.koha-community[…]-07-02-19.04.html |
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huginn |
Minutes (text): http://meetings.koha-community[…]0-07-02-19.04.txt |
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huginn |
Log: http://meetings.koha-community[…]02-19.04.log.html |
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caroline |
davidnind++++ |
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davidnind |
thanks everyone! |
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lucyvh |
Thanks everyone |
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tuxayo |
davidnind++ |
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tuxayo |
thanks folks! |
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davidnind |
a miracle, we kept it under an hour (just!) |
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davidnind |
contemplates to do list, goes back to procrastinating :) |
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ashimema |
Too many meetings. Sorry I missed this one |
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davidnind |
no problem - the joy of meetings! |
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Marie-Luce |
my apologies for the doc meeting. I'm really sorry |
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davidnind |
no problem Marie-Luce (you get to read the minutes!) |
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caroline |
ashimema: can you generate the minutes? |
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aleisha |
hi |
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wahanui |
what's up, aleisha |
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oleonard |
Hi aleisha |
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hi oleonard |
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hi oleopard |
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oleonard |
I am amused at the thought of long gone bug-filers getting updates to bugs years later. |
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tuxayo |
Part of the contact emails might not be valid anymore ^^ |
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koha-jenkins |
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wahanui |
Congratulations! |
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