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TimothyAlexis |
Instead of me developing a custom solution to filter the #checkoutst table on opac-user.pl, I would much rather receive help to implement the standard solution described here: https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]-column_filtering . I have followed the instructions to the best of my ability and have reached a stop. |
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TimothyAlexis |
Is there anyone here who understands how it works? I think it looks simple enough. |
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So really clueless as to why it doesn't work. |
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fridolin |
hi there |
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* fridolin |
is back full time o/ |
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davewood |
hello everyone. im tasked with doing some development for koha and would like to know whats the recommended branch to base new development on. |
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magnuse |
welcome back fridolin |
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magnuse |
davewood: master |
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cait1 |
davewood: what magnuse said :) |
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cait1 |
on the wiki there should be helpful info on all that |
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cait1 |
you'll also want to look at the coding guidelines |
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magnuse |
https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]eveloper_handbook |
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magnuse |
here's hoping someone can be provoked to expand on this: https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]anslating_plugins ;-) |
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fridolin |
magnuse: thanks ;) i'm a lot rusty |
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magnuse |
hehe, you'll figure it out :-) |
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fridolin |
magnuse: what do you mean ? whats missing ? |
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ashimema |
TimothyAlexis: You've probably picked one of the more complicated tables to work with as a first try.. |
| 07:26 |
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TimothyAlexis |
::D |
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TimothyAlexis |
I don't know, it looks very simple to me. 3 steps really. |
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ashimema |
if memory serves.. it's both an AJAX table and has a bunch of additional customisation added on top to do grouping |
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TimothyAlexis |
Add <input type="text" class="filter" data-column_num="1" placeholder="Search on 2nd column" /> |
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ashimema |
so.. where are you stuck? |
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TimothyAlexis |
Put the table in a variable |
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TimothyAlexis |
Use that variable (replace my_table) and put this after the dataTable call: my_table.fnAddFilters("filter", 500); // 2nd parameter is optional |
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TimothyAlexis |
Works fine in other pages. |
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ashimema |
bug 15235 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=15235 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Failed QA , Add column filters to checkouts table |
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ashimema |
bug 24533 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=24533 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, martin.renvoize, Failed QA , Improved sorting in checkouts table |
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ashimema |
those two bugs already look at affecting the filtering and ordering of that table.. |
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davewood |
2 GB git repo, thats quite some data! |
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ashimema |
that's tiny compared to a couple of weeks back davewood ;) |
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ashimema |
We've recently squashed and cleaned |
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ashimema |
it was upto somthing mad like 7! |
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davewood |
good timing |
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ashimema |
once we have a new server it'll shrink a little more too we hope.. |
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ashimema |
the process was run on a rather old version of git in our central repo |
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davewood |
has anyone made an attempt to run koha with docker instead of vagrant? |
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ashimema |
nice to have you aboard btw.. always nice to see new faces :) |
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ashimema |
koha-testing-docker ;) |
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ashimema |
https://gitlab.com/koha-commun[…]ha-testing-docker |
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ashimema |
an nice simple, developer focused, docker environment |
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ashimema |
I believe there are a few production focused efforts going on too |
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ashimema |
TimothyAlexis.. how far have you gotten through your attempts? |
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ashimema |
Would you like me to raise jajm to rebase bug 15235 ? I'm not sure how much he's still looking after that bug, but I'm sure he'd appreciate some testing. |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=15235 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Failed QA , Add column filters to checkouts table |
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TimothyAlexis |
It works fine as implemented in aqbudgets.tt, shelves.tt, claims.tt and some other. Looking at the code there and looking at the instructions on the wiki, making those 3 lines of additions to the code should be enough. |
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ashimema |
have you tried? |
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TimothyAlexis |
Yes, I've tried putting the input field in different places, inside the table, outside the table, in the tfoot. I've also tried setting the data-column_num to different numbers. |
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TimothyAlexis |
I tried defining the code for the #checkedoutst table separately (It's included in a loop) |
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TimothyAlexis |
Sorry, #checkoutst |
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TimothyAlexis |
The field is there but when editing it, nothing happens with the table. So one thing I've been thinking is if the fnAddFilters function requires anything additional to work. |
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TimothyAlexis |
I mean, anything additional besides the [% INCLUDE 'datatables.inc' %] which is already there. |
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ashimema |
hmm |
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ashimema |
checkoutst.. where is that.. |
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ashimema |
I think I'm looking at the wrong page |
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TimothyAlexis |
opac-user.tt |
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ashimema |
oapc |
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ashimema |
doh! |
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ashimema |
I was thinking staff |
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TimothyAlexis |
:) |
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ashimema |
bug 15235 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=15235 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Failed QA , Add column filters to checkouts table |
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ashimema |
interestingly.. he seems to do staff and opac |
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ashimema |
oh no he doesn't |
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TimothyAlexis |
I added this as line 198 (below the table caption) > 198 data-column_num="1" placeholder="Search on 2nd column" /> |
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ashimema |
ok.. so have you got yourself a bugzilla account and added a bug to show your intention to work on this? |
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TimothyAlexis |
The dataTable call is around line 800 |
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So I changed that call to define a variable: var bTable = $(this).dataTable($.extend(true, {}, |
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And then after the call I added this line: bTable.fnAddFilters("filter", 500); |
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TimothyAlexis |
That's all there seems to be to it. :D |
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TimothyAlexis |
Before I add a bug, I need to know if it's not me misunderstanding how to implement it. |
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ashimema |
it sounds about right to me |
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ashimema |
but to be honest it's been a while since I've added such a filter |
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ashimema |
so your wanting to filter on 'title' right |
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TimothyAlexis |
Well, when I get it working I will filter on the renew column. |
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ashimema |
ok.. looks like all the tables are instantiated under one variable.. |
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ashimema |
weird |
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ashimema |
there's some interesting code in the instantiation loop |
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ashimema |
seems we disable searching on anything that's not sortable |
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TimothyAlexis |
this? { "targets": [ "nosort" ],"sortable": false,"searchable": false }, |
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ashimema |
indeed |
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ashimema |
right.. |
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ashimema |
you variable definition there is out of whack |
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ashimema |
look at the code.. it's a loop |
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ashimema |
so.. bTable will be getting redifined with each iteration of the loop |
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TimothyAlexis |
I tried extracting #checkoutst from the loop. |
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ashimema |
I think if you want to treat this table differently you'll need to take it out of the loop |
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TimothyAlexis |
:\ |
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TimothyAlexis |
Hmm... |
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ashimema |
any console errors ? |
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TimothyAlexis |
The fnAddFilters is in the intranet-tmpl/prog/js/datatables.js file |
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But not in opac-tmpl/bootstrap/js/datatables.js |
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TimothyAlexis |
That's probably it |
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ashimema |
yup |
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ashimema |
I was just about to say the same |
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ashimema |
perhaps we use different datatables versions in the opac |
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ashimema |
I'll check for you |
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TimothyAlexis |
Thank you :) |
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ashimema |
brb.. just need a coffee ;) |
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TimothyAlexis |
I quit coffee after I found this: https://translate.google.com/t[…]2Falkaloider.html |
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TimothyAlexis |
That's some scary stuff considering so many are addicted to it... :/ |
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ashimema |
hmm.. are you likely to be around later today TimothyAlexis ? |
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ashimema |
I think oleonard is your best bet for help on this |
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ashimema |
they do appear to be different datatables versions.. with different sets of kohja customisations |
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ashimema |
aha |
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ashimema |
fnFilter(string, column_index) |
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TimothyAlexis |
Yeah I see that too. I could add "Allow filtering in opac jQuery datatables" to bugzilla. |
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ashimema |
see opac-account.tt for some filtering that happens in the opac already.. that's a hard coded filter.. but passing the variable from an input should work similarly |
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ashimema |
lines 99 - 111 |
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ashimema |
hope it helps |
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TimothyAlexis |
Thank you ashimema. |
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TimothyAlexis |
I will look at it after lunch. |
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TimothyAlexis |
ashimema, thank you for the help, it really made my day a better experience. |
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ashimema |
indeed.. it would be even nicer to add a generic filtering function like that in intranet to the opac so adding filters is simpler in the future |
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ashimema |
I imagine it would be very similar to the one in intranet-tmpl/prog/js/datatables.js |
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ashimema |
:) |
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ashimema |
no worries |
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magnuse |
ashimema++ |
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oleonard |
Hi #koha |
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magnuse |
hiya oleonard |
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caroline |
cait: I am QAing, just very much after the fact, hehe! |
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caroline |
Pootle just makes it very obvious since it's just the sentence and nothing else |
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tcohen |
morning |
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oleonard |
Hi tcohen |
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TimothyAlexis |
Which component, in Bugzilla, would be the correct choice for "Allow the datatables filtering functions from intranet to also function in OPAC" |
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cait |
TimothyAlexis: they do |
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cait |
wll we chose not to allow the options for users as it's mostly used by the library to define columns... but the libraris shoudl be there? |
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cait |
othewise i'd select OPAC or templates |
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oleonard |
TimothyAlexis do you mean the form fields at the top of table columns that allow you to search the contents of that column? |
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cait |
thx oleonard - i had a long presentation this morning, I am probably not making much sense :) |
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oleonard |
cait I read a little of the previous conversation so I think that's what we're talking about |
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TimothyAlexis |
oleonard: Yeah the fnAddFilters function described here: https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]-column_filtering |
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cait |
which table are you thinking of? |
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oleonard |
TimothyAlexis are you preparing a patch? If so please incorporate a way to make the feature optional for libraries |
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TimothyAlexis |
cait: The table showing checked out items. |
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cait |
are you aware that there already are tables in the opac that can be column configured? just the choiceoption for users is missing |
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oleonard |
TimothyAlexis I would also consider whether column-specific filtering is required or whether a single search form would be adequate. I would find that to be acceptable non-optional change since it doesn't introduce a lot of new complexity for the user. |
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cait |
i can imagine th eprint and download might be nice on the checkouts table |
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cait |
but not usre how dependent all that is on each other |
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oleonard |
cait I agree |
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TimothyAlexis |
I agree. |
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TimothyAlexis |
It would be best to keep it simple and standard. |
| 12:23 |
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TimothyAlexis |
The specific situation is with the table showing checked out items for patrons. We have some who have hundreds of checked out items and it could be convenient to filter the list. |
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TimothyAlexis |
The simplest we could do is to allow sorting on the "Renew" column. That was the initial suggestion we got. Then it was proposed that allowing a filter could be even more convenient. |
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oleonard |
What would sorting on the "renew" column sort by? |
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TimothyAlexis |
Number of renewals left. |
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oleonard |
That could be done too. We'd need to sort by some hidden data but it would be doable. |
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TimothyAlexis |
I think it would be easier. |
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TimothyAlexis |
simply removing the "nosort" on that column allows for a standard sorting. |
| 12:29 |
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TimothyAlexis |
We have this kind of info in that column "Automatic renewal (1 of 5 renewals remaining)" |
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oleonard |
TimothyAlexis I encourage you to file separate enhancement bugs for the OPAC for the two ideas: table filtering and renewal sorting. |
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TimothyAlexis |
oleonard or let it go, it seems to currently be a a lot of work for a minor, supposed benefit. |
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TimothyAlexis |
The main benefit here is to group items by that column, which is actually achieved when removing class="nosort" on our specific installation. |
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TimothyAlexis |
Which is very simple. |
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cait |
TimothyAlexis: i thnk the ideas have merit and you should file th bugs |
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cait |
and if it gets into Koha... you will have one less customization to think about |
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cait |
you can file a bug without having to provide a patch - you can also log ideas |
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TimothyAlexis |
I like how ashimema put it "[10:56] <ashimema> indeed.. it would be even nicer to add a generic filtering function like that in intranet to the opac so adding filters is simpler in the future" |
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oleonard |
I think it's a very special case where a column-specific filter is required, and most tables don't fit that requirement. |
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TimothyAlexis |
I'm thinking an enhancement is only an enhancement if it actually makes real sense in real situations. |
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TimothyAlexis |
If we're talking about this specific situation we are talking about a "perhaps it would be nice to have" for a few patrons in one library. |
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oleonard |
andreashm is in whatever altered state did was in the other day |
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oleonard |
Unstuck in time |
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Thanks for the help today, wishing bliss to you all. |
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Joubu |
bug 25570 needs QA |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=25570 normal, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Signed Off , Listing requests should be paginated by default |
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andreashm |
oleonard: haha. |
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weird, wonder what happened to my irc client earlier. |
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reiveune |
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tcohen |
anyone with CCL searching experience? |
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tcohen |
c'mon, we are the biggest project in the workd using Zebra |
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tcohen |
:-D |
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oleonard |
@seen jcamins |
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huginn |
oleonard: jcamins was last seen in #koha 2 years, 2 weeks, 5 days, 17 hours, 3 minutes, and 38 seconds ago: <jcamins> cait: probably 561. |
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oleonard |
;) |
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caroline |
tcohen, what're looking to know? One of my colleagues is very well versed in zebra |
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tcohen |
I'm performing a really simple search |
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tcohen |
and cannot get results |
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J-D |
Hi people :) I just volunteered to help a very small non-public library doing an inventory. I have a few simple questions about LMS and couldn't find actual answers during the last 2 hours :) |
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"tcohen" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "caroline: what's wrong with this search?" (29 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/22747 |
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oleonard |
Ask away J-D |
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J-D |
First : please pardon my use of English, I happen to be French ;) |
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oleonard |
Some of us happen to be French, German, Canadian, Argentinian, Norwegian... |
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J-D |
The more, the merrier ;) |
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caroline |
francophone here, if you don't know the specific terms |
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oleonard |
...American, British, Australian, New Zealander, Dutch, Swedish, Czech... |
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oleonard |
...bot... |
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J-D |
It's a small library of about 4000 books, very old, I think a third of the whole library dates before 1900 |
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J-D |
Lately, the owners decided to do the inventory and asked for volunteers who started with the newest books and created simple XML files |
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J-D |
With no rules whatsoever about the way they recorded the books... |
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oleonard |
So kind of like MARC XD... |
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J-D |
As I was the only guy crazy enough to record the oldest books, I jumped into the jungle |
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J-D |
I wish to make things clearer |
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J-D |
I thought it would be a good idea to use a software that would call directly to ressources, like the National Library |
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J-D |
I know there are softwares that will do that |
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J-D |
My questions are then : |
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J-D |
1/ For such a simple use, is it a good idea to try Koha ? (won't I get into a lot of unnecessary trouble ?) |
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J-D |
2/ Will I be able to export the list of books into a XML at some point ? |
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caroline |
1/ I think Koha might be a bit overkill |
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caroline |
2/ Yes, Koha supports exports in XML |
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J-D |
I'm more than OK with learning a lot, but there is some extent to my curiosity. Setting up a server with a database is not a problem. |
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J-D |
back to 1/ What would be the main obstacle ? |
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caroline |
I've worked with non-librarians/library techs trying to use Koha for their small library and unless they are comfortable with computers and technology, I would avoid making things more complicated than they need it |
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caroline |
(We support some genealogy societies using Koha and, not to be prejudiced, but they are mostly staffed with volunteers of a certain age and it can be quite a challenge) |
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cait |
I feel the librarianese is probably worse than the setup - MARC especially |
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caroline |
I agree with cait |
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cait |
installing Koha is reasonable easy these days |
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cait |
but cataloguing to librarian standards in MARC is a bit specific |
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cait |
to be nice about MARC :) |
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J-D |
I understand. If I may be precise : I'd be the only one using Koha, no other volunteers would be trying it. But I believe this library has such value that it may someday be of interest to a "real" library with "real" librarians |
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caroline |
if the books aren't too rare, they could derive using Z39.50 |
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cait |
i think you said old books - i missed the beginning of your text |
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cait |
how old? |
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cait |
no IBSN old? :) |
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J-D |
So far, I recorded about 200 books from 1600 and 1700 |
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cait |
i have to admit - i don't know when isbn was invented, but that osunds a bit too old |
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caroline |
long term, it's for sure a good idea I think |
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cait |
it can be challenging finding old or rare material in other catalogs to reuse, but probably possible |
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cait |
reuse their records htat is |
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oleonard |
I'm pretty sure ISBN was invented after 1700 |
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J-D |
Some of those books are not referenced in the French National Library |
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caroline |
If you document the cataloging process really well, eventually they could use it without you |
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* oleonard |
pictures Johannes Gutenberg carefully printing "ISBN: 1" |
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cait |
lol |
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J-D |
Ahah :p |
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caroline |
XD |
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J-D |
Right now, I'm searching the National Library catalog and when I find my reference, I copy each element into a XML |
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J-D |
Will this be of any use for another library ? |
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J-D |
I mean... Can that be imported into another database ? |
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oleonard |
If your XML structure is unique to your library it would be difficult |
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cait |
libraries usually use standard for data exchange |
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J-D |
-_- |
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cait |
MARC21 being a common one, probably used by the national library - or UNIMARC (not sure about natinal library in france) |
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J-D |
Well, I kept to author, title, edition, date |
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cait |
it dpeends maybe on what you wan tto do - it could serve as a kind of inventory list - getting someone inerested to see the books |
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cait |
but they might recatalog them |
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oleonard |
Theoretically if your XML is valid, someone could map yours to standard MARC and apply a transform, but it would be extra work. |
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J-D |
oleonard: That is what I try to avoid |
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cait |
linking to authorities (records for the people involved), adding information about the binding, pages, physical appearance, series etc. |
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J-D |
Koha would create such standard XML files ? |
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J-D |
I mean, reusabled ones :) |
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oleonard |
Koha would allow you to export records as MARCXML |
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J-D |
ok |
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J-D |
So if I understand you well : |
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J-D |
It is a good idea to catalog as soon as possible in such format that libraries could use later-on |
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J-D |
If I'm ok with the tech part, the cataloging will be challenging but not impossible for a new-comer ? |
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oleonard |
J-D: Koha allows you to create your own MARC entry form with only the fields you need, so it's possible to make a simplified setup for newcomers |
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J-D |
ok |
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caroline |
definitely not impossible (e.g. my genealogy clients are definitely capable of cataloging, they just need very clear instructions) |
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J-D |
In the end, I will be able to export to XML for the current owners (they are specific on that), but also to other common standards for libraries so that in the long-run my work is helping ? |
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cait |
MARCXML is kinda both |
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cait |
it's an XML presentaton of MARC |
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J-D |
Ok |
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J-D |
So definitely a good idea |
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cait |
this is gemran, but it looks somewhat like this http://format.gbv.de/marc/xml |
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cait |
245$a is the title in MARC, 245$b is the subtitle and so on... it's not very readable xml |
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caroline |
If you are in France, they would probably prefer UNIMARC |
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cait |
oh yes |
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caroline |
rather than MARC21 |
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J-D |
That actually made some sense to me |
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cait |
i am not sure if paul said that the national was using marc21.. weshould check that |
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J-D |
I guess Koha will export easily to UNIMARC too |
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cait |
you have to choose on installation time |
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cait |
the formats are similar... but use different fields |
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J-D |
And last question |
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J-D |
Will I be able to create a very simple XML containing only basics : author, title, edition, date ? |
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cait |
you can export to some other formats and make your own csv profiles... but you probably need to have some kind of conversion thing |
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caroline |
I think BNF uses UNIMARC |
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cait |
ah cool then |
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J-D |
They use INTERMARC but offer UNIMARC too |
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cait |
ah, maybe that was what i had in mind then |
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cait |
makes total sense |
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cait |
well kind of |
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cait |
that they offer unimarc |
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J-D |
Thanks for your answers :) |
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caroline |
good luck! |
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J-D |
I'll try to set up Koha and see if I get to work with a reasonable learning time |
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J-D |
You are great ! |
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J-D |
Thanks :) |
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J-D |
have a nice morning/day/evening/night (pick your next-to-come or favourite) ! |
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J-D |
Bye ! |
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oleonard |
"Your branch and 'origin/master' have diverged, and have 1 and 2104 different commits each, respectively." |
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* oleonard |
blows the dust off |
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caroline |
oh my! |
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oleonard |
I was successful (I think) in reviving Bug 24625 so I thought I'd look at my list of other ancient shipwrecks |
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Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=24625 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , Phase out jquery.cookie.js: showLastPatron |
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ashimema |
lol |
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oleonard |
Why do we have OpacItemLocation and OPACItemsResultsDisplay |
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cait |
i'll take historical reasons for 200 |
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oleonard |
Oh... probably because OPACItemsResultsDisplay only affects non-XSLT and whoever added OpacItemLocation didn't know that... |
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cait |
so we can kill one? *hopeful* |
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oleonard |
I'm tempted to simply kill OPACItemsResultsDisplay and not be concerned about reproducing its features precisely in XSLT |
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oleonard |
(see Bug 5229) |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5229 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , OPACItemsResultsDisplay preference does not work with XSLT results |
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cait |
I can fully undersetand |
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cait |
the xslt code there is scary at least |
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cait |
does hea report a lot of use? if we can tell even? |
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oleonard |
Hea shows 730 for OPACItemsResultsDisplay = 1, but you'd have to combine that number with the same libraries' XSLT use to really know |
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cait |
it's still ont a lot |
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cait |
out of 6300 now? |
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cait |
and yeah, it might just have been toggled without any effect |
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cait |
i say we try to kill it (/me is in that kind of mood) |
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ashimema |
Kill it with fire |
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ashimema |
Gets my vote |
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* ashimema |
isn't sure what it does above and beyond the other one though.. |
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cait |
i did never know, we always used xslt |
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ashimema |
Yup. Me too |
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oleonard |
I was unsuccessful in raising the wreck of Bug 24352 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=24352 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Failed QA , OpacItemLocation is buggy |
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oleonard |
I don't know that cait and I ever saw the same output, patch or no patch |
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* oleonard |
fixes Bug 5229 instead |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5229 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , OPACItemsResultsDisplay preference does not work with XSLT results |
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oleonard |
haha never mind, new patch submitted for Bug 24352 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=24352 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , OpacItemLocation is buggy |
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oleonard |
I'm going to start selling a version of Koha with all my great patches applied to it and it'll be called Koha Ultra XXL |
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Michael_A |
Hi all! |
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oleonard |
Hi Michael_A |
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Michael_A |
Quick reports question: how do I limit the number of decimal places displayed in a report? Say, for account lines, limit to 10.00 instead of 10.00000 |
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oleonard |
I would think something like this: https://www.w3resource.com/mys[…]rmat-function.php |
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oleonard |
Look for instance at this report: https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]ormation_of_fine_.28_including_title_info_for_each_item_.29 |
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Michael_A |
Perfect! Thank you Owen |
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caroline |
Wow, I totally missed the conversation, but I usually use ROUND() in my reports, another option I guess |
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aleisha |
hello |
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caroline |
hi aleisha! |
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aleisha |
hi caroline |
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o/ |
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Some new interest in Bug 7365... I wonder what kind of hints they're looking for |
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Yippee, build fixed! |
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Congratulations! |
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Yippee, build fixed! |
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Congratulations! |
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Yippee, build fixed! |
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Congratulations! |
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