IRC log for #koha, 2020-05-12

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00:00 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed!
00:00 wahanui Congratulations!
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00:37 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed!
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06:34 reiveune hello
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06:35 dersmon hi everyone
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06:54 dersmon are there any plans to support when merging?
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06:58 alex_a Bonjour
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08:25 dersmon i am trying to call https://<domain>/api/v1/.html but get an 403, my admin settings: basic auth: active, restpublicAPI: active, using my normal admin credentials in basic auth does not work
08:25 dersmon what am i missing? ;)
08:29 Joubu Are you using the latest master? We pushed bug 25327 recently
08:29 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=25327 minor, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Pushed to master , Cannot access API spec
08:32 dersmon ah - no i am currently on
08:33 Joubu you should not need the bugfix from 25327 then
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08:57 dersmon there is normally no further setup required for the rest api?
09:00 Joubu dersmon: try with a superlibrarian account and call a list route (like GET /api/v1/patrons)
09:00 ashimema mornin' #koha
09:00 Joubu if you still get an error, check the Koha log file, you may find something relevant there (but not sure you you will see something else that "not authorized")
09:00 Joubu morning ashimema
09:01 dersmon ah, now i get
09:01 dersmon {     "error": "Something went wrong, check the logs." }
09:01 dersmon :D
09:02 dersmon [Tue May 12 11:02:01.310949 2020] [cgi:error] [pid 9526] [client] AH01215: [Tue May 12 11:02:01 2020] Use of uninitialized value in subroutine entry at /usr/share/koha/lib/Koha/Plugins/ line 180.: /usr/share/koha/api/v1/
09:03 Joubu that's just a warning
09:06 Joubu dersmon: seeing something else?
09:06 dersmon not concerning the patrons call
09:07 dersmon but there is also: [Tue May 12 10:58:11.106830 2020] [authz_core:error] [pid 8614] [client] AH01630: client denied by server configuration: /usr/share/koha/api/v1/.html
09:07 Joubu that's coming from your apache config I'd say
09:07 dersmon let me recheck, maybe that was a call without basic auth
09:08 Joubu[…]d_authz_core.html
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09:38 dersmon the /api route is configured in apache-shared-opac.conf
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09:54 Joubu dersmon: my feeling is that you have a special config that relies on the authz_core
09:54 Joubu apache mod
09:54 Joubu grep "authz_core" in your apache config files
10:05 ashimema bug 24378
10:05 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=24378 trivial, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Passed QA , Change wording on AUTO_RENEWALS notice in updatedatabase
10:05 ashimema am I right in thinking I need to apply the same change to all the languages files
10:08 cait1 it shoudl be done
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10:08 cait1 bug 23787 deals with the template files
10:08 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=23787 normal, P5 - low, ---, andrew, Passed QA , Add AUTO_RENEWALS in sample_notices.sql
10:08 cait1 that's why i noted somewhere they go together
10:08 ashimema ok..
10:09 ashimema they do indeed.. but they seemed to be in reverse order
10:09 ashimema all good
10:09 cait1 yeah that could be
10:23 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 24185: Add mentorship <[…]78bba2dd92e9c8237>
10:23 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 24027: Add Mentorship lines <[…]5dd10cfb22e38bc3c>
10:23 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 25184: (RM follow-up) Make DB update idempotent <[…]f4801213287e76b95>
10:23 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 24378: DBRev <[…]3932a10c29e7b3852>
10:23 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 25418: (QA follow-up) Raise size of input box <[…]6be466c5c88308fd3>
10:23 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 24378: (QA follow-up) fix minor issues <[…]ce9e2108c83894f79>
10:23 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 25421: Update POD <[…]2aab672f77f60672a>
10:23 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 24378: (follow-up) Format due date as due date <[…]afb658c47bacce03f>
10:23 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 25409: Add missing "Required" text and "required" classes <[…]6c2c52b13ab9321bd>
10:23 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 25421: Make ->pickup_locations only return an arrayref <[…]cbdb341cf09ca9826>
10:23 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 25421: Remove use of Koha::Libraries->pickup_locations <[…]14acfdb6b7a1e831f>
10:23 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 22437: (follow-up) Move deletion of merge requests to DelAuthority <[…]a8aa5d4a32b739643>
10:23 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 25418: (bug 25133 follow-up) Display due date with hours <[…]c8649b55a2ecab9d4>
10:23 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 25342: Unit test <[…]25b60b5f3a2b83db1>
10:23 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 25409: Add missing "required" class to template <[…]42417ca8179c12377>
10:23 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 25342: Force ES id as string <[…]db26192ff44fc61cd>
10:23 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 24378: Database update to rewrite notice if left unchanged <[…]dbf90e822b006876c>
10:23 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 22437: Add test case to Merge.t <[…]627f15aff7aad12ab>
10:23 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 22437: Delete older merge requests at new merge time <[…]5a558799ab9874c01>
10:23 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 24378: Change wording of auto_renewals notice in updatedatabase <[…]b06f636a85be465f7>
10:26 cait1 has someone seen: UPLERR_CANNOT_WRITE"
10:26 cait1 ?
10:26 cait1 in our 18.11 installations we can't upload files
10:26 * kohaputti apparently became a mentor (as per the commit messages) :)
10:26 ashimema :)
10:26 ashimema yup
10:27 ashimema you got mentioned as a great help by Nugged.. so I added you in :)
10:27 ashimema credit where credit is due :)
10:27 kohaputti yeah, I've been working with nugged
10:27 Joubu cait1: check permissions
10:27 ashimema :D
10:27 cait1 Joubu: which and where?
10:27 cait1 we fond nothing more in the logs and at the moment i am a little lost where to start
10:28 Joubu where the files are uploaded
10:28 ashimema ownership and permissions for the upload directory.. which is usually mentioned in koha-conf cait1
10:28 cait1 aha
10:29 cait1 possible this was new/changed between 17.11 and 18.11?
10:29 cait1 i guess
10:29 ashimema erm.. pass
10:30 cait1 looking atkoha-conf now - thx for the hint!
10:30 ashimema :)
10:31 cait1 <upload_path></upload_path>
10:31 Joubu so /tmp is used
10:31 Joubu or any others tmp paths defined
10:32 ashimema systemd does funky things with tmp cait.. that's why upload_path was introduced I believe
10:32 ashimema easiest fix I know of is to defined a suitable one and set the permissions on it yourself
10:33 cait1 that was from the default one
10:33 cait1 but I guess we might be missing the entry
10:33 cait1 when you update - we don't change koha-conf.xml, do we? I usually don't deal with that part
10:49 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 15253: Remove specific logging output <[…]26dc2edbadb394d74>
10:49 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 25279: (QA follow-up) Use .escapeHtml <[…]5e8f9dbaceb8590a2>
10:49 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 24823: (QA follow-up) Fix deletion and POD <[…]58ef07fcef664d118>
10:49 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 25279: Replace encodeURI with encodeURIComponent <[…]33e280a0d5e8b8d3a>
10:49 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 25279: URI-escape city_id in links <[…]41681c3a911c36d1a>
10:49 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 13547: (QA follow-up) Add basic tests <[…]51df1709f6663cc7a>
10:49 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 13547: (follow-up) Improve POD for template plugin <[…]800afb96d03c91efc>
10:49 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 15253: Add POD to C4/SIP/ and C4/SIP/ <[…]d1bb8f746b9bfa00d>
10:49 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 15253: Convert all tabs into 4 spaces in affected files <[…]1845e10fac53305f0>
10:49 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 15253: Log trapped errors as log level 'warn' instead of 'error' <[…]bfc147b75d1d58707>
10:49 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 15253: Rename syslog() to siplog() <[…]fbb4278854c3bb285>
10:49 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 15253: Add log4perl conf updates for Debian packages <[…]c96215c278e762fc1>
10:49 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 13547: (follow-up) Item field 'Materials specified' would be useful to see in... <[…]7744ceb288e32e9a2>
10:49 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 24823: Remove unused parameters <[…]f5867cdcfcb0ab16d>
10:49 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 24823: Fix spelling error and remove last of Catmandu <[…]b6e8d4e3b14f19c5b>
10:49 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 24823: Drop Catmandu dependency <[…]0576f1bf6bb69cf74>
10:49 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 13547: Add item field 3 (Materials specified) to the OPAC holdings table <[…]b083ba977d26fe6f5>
10:49 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 22970: Allow to change homebranch in batch add course reserves <[…]02352f84f9e9b3ea9>
10:49 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 15253: Move subs to a new module, allow unit tests to function <[…]68372d9ffe45621f2>
10:49 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 15253: Add Koha::Logger based logging for SIP2 <[…]b90615d54babba705>
10:50 Joubu ashimema: seen my comment on bug 15253?
10:50 wahanui I haven't seen 'my', Joubu
10:50 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=15253 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to master , Add Koha::Logger based logging for SIP2
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10:51 ashimema yeah.. I was going to task tcohen and mtj with ensuring log files are correct for packages :)
10:51 ashimema thanks for getting that one over the line.. I think we can improve upon it next cycle but this is a good step in the right direction I feel.
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12:19 cait1 oleonard: I was wondering if bug 25462 could be a css issue?
12:19 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=25462 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, david.roberts, Needs Signoff , Shelving location should be on a new line in holdings table
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12:31 Joubu ashimema: could you consider bug 25070 for 20.05? It will help 20.05 Rmaint to backport patches
12:31 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=25070 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , Include files to display address and contact must be refactored
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12:31 Joubu (and it's awesome)
12:40 ashimema Well.. I've just caught up on the queue and was about to send a mail with string freeze announcement and some slightly updated dates.. once Jenkins is happy
12:40 ashimema So.. if it's very nearly there.. I can hold off on that for later today and take a look
12:41 ashimema Could be the last string changing enhancement
12:41 ashimema Got anyone lined up to QA it.. wasn't Cait on the case
12:42 kohaputti has anybody build any tools for getting forked koha db back to correspond the community schema? I will have fun times with this if not :D
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12:44 Joubu ashimema: no string changes expected
12:44 ashimema awesome
12:45 Joubu it was more about pushing an enh after the feature freeze
12:45 ashimema then go for it :)
12:45 ashimema as you say.. pushing it now will aid future backports
12:46 oleonard You don't have to squint too hard to see it as a bug fix
12:46 Joubu kohaputti: can you detail?
12:46 Joubu oleonard: heh indeed
12:46 kohaputti I have bunch of installations with that has tons of db schema changes. Now I want to use KC koha for those installations. Looking for the best way to do that.
12:47 kohaputti KC = Koha Community
12:47 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 25417: (QA follow-up) Add integration test for AddReturn <[…]5e4806b3618edf3b3>
12:47 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 25417: (QA follow-up) Restore 'fixing' of fines <[…]e08a1fee203903c27>
12:47 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 25417: (QA follow-up) Clarify _FixOverduesOnReturn test <[…]710241506d6a3f9fc>
12:47 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 25417: Prevent negative debit amount on backdating returns <[…]8bcd910abec7a592b>
12:47 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 25417: Add unit test <[…]a72a5dd27b6ebcad9>
12:47 ashimema could be a fun task kohaputti.. not sure how you could generalise that.. it'll need a script writing specifically for your changes I imagine
12:48 kohaputti My best plan for now I just run some pre-sql and after-sql scripts before and after
12:48 Joubu insert the structure, dump it, then diff?
12:49 kohaputti Joubu, yeah something like that, and then deal with also the changes for data even if the schema would be the same
12:50 kohaputti will let you know how it progresses! :)
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12:52 Joubu kohaputti: a diff of the kohastructure.sql should give you almost a direct answer. Unless your fork did not update it when a DB structure change happened.
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12:53 kohaputti Joubu, the fork cherry-picks db schema changes from multiple koha versions...
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12:55 Joubu then the kohastructure.sql should be kept up-to-date with the DB structure, and a simple git diff should give you the answer
12:55 Joubu sorry if I missed something obvious ;)
12:57 kohaputti the issue is I cannot diff it to a certain koha version since the kohastructure.sql comes from multiple different versions, so I'm planning to rollback to the original version it started from and then upgrade. Most of the db structure changes are not used by the installations I manage.
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13:00 cait1 kohaputti: not that I am not happy to hear you want to use KC koha, but why the change of heart? just interested
13:05 kohaputti cait1, I think everybody has had all along the goal to use KC Koha but there has been just so many features missing in the past, now for (mostly academic) libraries that is not the case. There are still other (public) libraries in finland and I don't think KC will provide for those libraries all they need so they will have to carry quite many things still in a fork. Somebody who manages the public library Kohas in Finland could comment on
13:05 kohaputti their plans better.
13:07 oleonard kohaputti I'm surprised to hear that it's the public libraries who think Koha lacks functionality they need, usually I hear the opposite
13:08 cait1 it might be local services like overdrive in the US?
13:09 cait1 i think htat's the case here too, we also have a feature heavy fork for public libraires (LMSCloud)
13:09 cait1 I think a big part of it is services for local providers
13:09 kohaputti oleonard, the academic libraries just started using koha around 1 year ago (on average) recently so there are not so many external dependencies that could have been developed over time. Public libraries have been using koha already for many years
13:09 kohaputti s/koha/koha-suomi koha fork/
13:10 kohaputti now that there is the plugin system for rest api that helps a lot
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13:14 kohaputti (and I mean here the academic libraries that we are managing currently, some of the academic libraries use different ILS)
13:16 cait1 kohaputti: keeping fingers crossed for your task - you are not the first to come backf rom forking, but i believe it's not always fun
13:17 kohaputti cait1, thanks :)
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16:01 caroline comments/suggestions are welcome https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]g_the_Koha_Manual#.3D.3E_New_writers.2C_start_here.21_.3C.3D
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16:48 ashimema Nice with Caroline
16:48 ashimema s/with/work
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17:52 tuxayo IIRC if I want to use the overdue process to restrict an account, I need to set this up in the notices triggers and then run this
17:52 tuxayo misc/cronjobs/
17:52 tuxayo Is that all?
17:57 * cait waves
17:58 caroline afaik yes, that's how
17:59 caroline there's also a syspref to remove the restriction if the overdues are returned
18:00 tuxayo o/ caroline
18:00 tuxayo o/ cait
18:00 tuxayo > there's also a syspref to remove the restriction if the overdues are returned
18:00 tuxayo That's what I'm trying to test ^^
18:00 tuxayo bug 24413
18:00 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=24413 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , MarkLostItemsAsReturned functionality does not lift restrictions caused by long overdues
18:01 tuxayo > Is that all?
18:01 tuxayo Hum. Maybe I'm missing something. My patron isn't restricted. I'll check the branches
18:10 tuxayo hum, it's not a timing issue. (having to match the exact number of overdue days setup in the UI)
18:10 * tuxayo tries to remember other gotchas
18:25 cait are your restrictions o fthe right type?
18:25 cait ah
18:25 cait you are stuck on getting restricted?
18:27 cait when you run the overdues cron job, run it with -t
18:27 cait that will make it use the configuration you set up in the notice triggers, othewiese it might not work
18:27 cait but you need to match the delay
18:27 ashimema .
18:27 cait so say you got an item overdue yesterday, set the delay of the first trigger to 1 and restrict and then run the job
18:27 cait and make sure it#s not a holiday
18:27 cait tuxayo ^
18:28 tuxayo > are your restrictions o fthe right type?
18:28 tuxayo What is a type of restriction?
18:29 cait we have 3 different ones
18:29 cait you are looking for OVERDUE i think
18:29 tuxayo > you are stuck on getting restricted?
18:29 tuxayo No, on the contrary, justice isn't enforced!
18:29 cait we have... SUSPEND
18:29 cait MANUAL
18:29 cait and... the one that is from fines in dayss, i forgot the code for this one
18:30 cait the patch description asks for the one set by the overdue_notices job
18:30 tuxayo /cgi-bin/koha/tools/ is the right place to configure that right?And then I run the cronjob
18:30 cait yes
18:30 tuxayo without any params.
18:30 cait no with -t
18:31 cait otherwise the triggers are not used
18:31 cait (triggers set in overduerules)
18:34 tuxayo > otherwise the triggers are not used
18:34 tuxayo nor notifications nor restrictions work without -t? (and thus the overdue matching the exact delay)
18:34 tuxayo I though without -t it would send notifications and restrict but on the whole range of overdue days. Not only on the exact one.
18:36 cait i only ever used it with -t
18:36 cait how would it know when to restrict?
18:36 cait you set that up on the overduerules
18:36 cait maybe it can be done with a parameter to the cron too, i don#t know about that
18:38 tuxayo > how would it know when to restrict?
18:38 tuxayo I think it's like to be ran once a week and restrict at one all the people late, something like that. But indeed, using -t everyday seems much more common.
18:38 tuxayo misc/cronjobs/ -list-all
18:38 tuxayo => nothing
18:38 tuxayo That's the issue >_<
18:39 tuxayo My felon patron is somehow under the radar
18:40 cait i think there are possible other ways to do it, but ont common here
18:40 cait what is the dely you had?
18:40 cait and where is your -t?
18:40 cait and ist_all i tihn just influences what goes into the notice
18:41 cait -v might tell yo umore
18:41 tuxayo > what is the dely you had?
18:41 tuxayo 1
18:42 tuxayo > and where is your -t?
18:42 tuxayo -list-all -t
18:42 tuxayo still empty
18:42 tuxayo > and ist_all i tihn just influences what goes into the notice
18:42 tuxayo hum, maybe
18:42 tuxayo https://perldoc.koha-community[…]rdue_notices.html
18:43 cait when is your item overdue?
18:43 cait is today a holiday in your calendar?
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18:47 cait caroline++ # nice email :)
18:49 tuxayo > when is your item overdue?
18:49 tuxayo Now it's two days ago. (testing different things)
18:49 tuxayo 1st rule: 1 day => restrict
18:50 tuxayo 2nd rule: 2 days => restrict
18:50 tuxayo 3nd rule: 3 days => restrict
18:50 tuxayo In case it was an off by one issue.
18:50 tuxayo The 3 rules are on the default library and also on the patron's library.
18:50 tuxayo > is today a holiday in your calendar?
18:50 tuxayo hm, let me check.
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18:56 tuxayo No holiday now. I removed the Sunday closure because when I started to test with 2 days overdue I forgot that sunday might be an issue.
18:56 tuxayo My patron's crime still goes unpunished.
18:57 cait does any ontice get generated?
18:57 cait in other words, is only the restriction missing or the notice too?
18:57 cait does your patron have an email address?
19:01 tuxayo Ok. I'll try to set up the actual notice part and not only the restriction part. (it shouldn't be necessary right?)
19:04 cait it's the notices script...
19:04 cait i never tried to restrict without a ontice
19:04 cait i think they are tied
19:07 tuxayo I forgot what's is the DB table that should be populated if a notice has been generated.
19:07 cait messagequeue
19:08 tuxayo Oh right thanks
19:12 tuxayo Ok, I'm starting to get thing in there :D
19:12 tuxayo after I add triggers for email on default library. (weird, it's the patron's library that should matter right?)
19:13 tuxayo And my patron is restricted! 🎉🎉🎉
19:13 tuxayo cait++
19:13 tuxayo No I have to understand why it finally worked ^^"
19:13 tuxayo *Now
19:15 tuxayo Notices are quite a wormhole. Thanks again cait, that will definitely be helpful to know how use this part of Koha.
19:21 cait definietley...  a worm hole
19:21 cait add fines and it gets even worse
19:23 tuxayo There can be triggers for fees? Where are they?
19:28 cait basically ciruculation rules
19:28 cait thee are just double as many catches
19:29 tuxayo oh right ><
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20:59 cait docs_team++
21:00 caroline did we get new subscribers?
21:00 caroline team mates rather
21:01 davidnind caroline: I'm working through the merge requests later today, apologies that I didn't manage to get this done over the weekend
21:01 cait caroline: not only 1  - 4
21:01 davidnind yeah - lots of people have added themselves to the team for 20.11!
21:01 caroline no worries, I haven't been able to work on it for the last month, so I can't really blame you!
21:01 caroline woohoo!
21:02 caroline I see jzairo made her first commit too!
21:02 cait davidnind: i am missing your name... hope you will still be around?
21:04 davidnind there are several merge requests from jzairo to process, which is great!
21:04 davidnind cait: intend to be, just procrastinating as usual!
21:04 * cait is relieved :)
21:04 caroline me too! :)
21:04 davidnind I might actually do some documentation this time
21:05 cait you did like a gazillion of sign offs this ccyle
21:06 cait if that is you procrastinating... it works for me :)
21:06 davidnind my bad, there is one from jzairo, several from Kelly and Holly to merge though - something to do this evening!
21:06 caroline He is now know as David "Bug Wrangler" Nind
21:06 davidnind hehe
21:07 cait :)
21:07 davidnind :-D better start my day job now, see you all later!
21:08 cait have a good day!
21:09 davidnind have a good evening/night!
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