IRC log for #koha, 2019-12-19

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00:22 * oleonard hoped tcohen would have left me a message filled with wisdom
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00:53 mtompset wizzyrea, Why yay hayley? Did hayley fix it?
00:55 mtompset musical flashback for oleonard:
00:55 mtompset (Roxette's Joyride)
00:58 oleonard I remember it well. What prompted that?
01:24 mtompset "filled with wisdom"
01:24 mtompset Don't need a book of wisdom. ;)
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02:36 hayley hahah yay hayley because hayley as first time release maintainer had her branch fail because of jenkins being sad, and then it was fixed by ashimema[m] :D
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07:21 magnuse @later tell mtompset did you know that the first koha conference/gathering in sweden was held at a hotel owned by the guy from Roxette?
07:21 huginn magnuse: The operation succeeded.
07:21 magnuse @later tell oleonard did you know that the first koha conference/gathering in sweden was held at a hotel owned by the guy from Roxette?
07:21 huginn magnuse: The operation succeeded.
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07:33 fridolin bonjour
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07:34 marcelr hi #koha
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07:39 reiveune hello
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07:57 alex_a Bonjour
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08:56 paxed is there ever going to be a push to move all the functionality from C4 to Koha?
08:58 paxed i am so discouraged by the standard "failing this because it should go into Koha, not C4" response, when all the code in question is in C4
09:00 marcelr paxed: its a long way out of C4
09:00 Joubu bug 15449
09:00 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=15449 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, NEW , Move stuff to the Koha namespace
09:00 Joubu The patches I submit there usually take 1 year to be integrated into master
09:01 cait on the plus side... some major modules are gone already
09:01 Joubu only C4::Branches so far
09:01 cait I think ashimema[m] said to push for items next?
09:02 cait might misremember
09:02 cait ah i thought we had patrons too
09:02 paxed this code split personality is hampering dev
09:02 Joubu CRUD for patrons, yes
09:02 cait i wonder if we culd make the patches smaller / easier to test in a way
09:02 Joubu I do not think so
09:03 Joubu I tried with CRUD for items, but finally ended up removing half of the module.
09:04 Joubu paxed: which code are you refering to?
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09:09 paxed Joubu: concrete bugs, or just in general? eg. bug 21559 or 21215
09:09 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=21559 new feature, P5 - low, ---, pasi.kallinen, Failed QA , Rules for automatic framework codes
09:12 Joubu you can call C4 code from Koha, even if not recommended
09:12 Joubu * from the Koha:: namespace
09:14 Joubu paxed: about the different sub you added on bug 21215, take a look at Koha::AuthorisedValues, you will certainly find what you are look for
09:14 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=21215 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, pasi.kallinen, Failed QA , Saved SQL reports code improvements
09:17 sunshine Hi everyone, I have a question concerning the usage of elasticsearch with Koha 19.11.00-1 running on Debian Stretch (9.11). On a test system, I managed to install everything fine some time ago, but I wanted to start using elasticsearch on another system yesterday as well. However, some libcatmandu packages seem to be missing. I managed to install libcatmandu-perl, but libcatmandu-store-elasticsearch-perl is required.
09:17 sunshine I could not find a suitable version for Stretch. Did I miss something here? Thanks in advance! :)
09:19 rkrimme1 In addition: It looks like the package is present in Debian Buster, and it looked like it was shipped from the Koha Debian Repo before, but is no longer there
09:20 rkrimme1 so, currently, it seems that there is no clean way to install this with koha on Debian 9
09:20 * cait waves
09:20 rkrimme1 Hi cait!
09:20 rkrimme1 I finally started my irc client again
09:20 rkrimme1 ;)
09:20 cait I seem to remember a dicsussion about removing dependency on catmandu , but not sure what happened with it in the end
09:21 cait kidclamp: around?
09:21 rkrimme1 Well, it would be totally okay to remove this dependency from the koha repo if the target platform would be Debian Buster I think
09:22 cait you might want to ask again a bit later today - kidclamp (US) or tcohen (Argentinia) might know the answer
09:23 rkrimme1 Yeah, thats fine
09:23 cait bit early for them still
09:23 sunshine that would be great, thanks
09:24 sunshine we could also consider upgrading to Buster otherwise, but lets see
09:25 cait i think there was an issue with newest debian - bug 24167
09:25 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=24167 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , We should support installation on Debian 10
09:26 cait so probably better to stay off debian 10 for now
09:26 rkrimme1 I always have the feeling you know _all_ the bugs.
09:26 sunshine thats what we thought about half a year ago, just stay safe with debian 9
09:27 cait I have a strange memory for bugs, but certain topics have me lost for sure
09:30 cait bug 19983 had the discussion about catmandu i think
09:30 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=19983 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, CLOSED FIXED, Switch single-column templates to Bootstrap grid: Authorities
09:30 cait sorry, typo
09:30 cait bug 19893
09:30 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=19893 enhancement, P1 - high, ---, glasklas, RESOLVED FIXED, Alternative optimized indexing for Elasticsearch
09:32 cait it's a bit of a long read, not sure what the final result was tbh
09:35 sunshine thanks a lot, i'll have a look at it
09:37 cait it might be too old - in 18.11 already. hope the experts show up soon
09:41 sunshine but it mentions the same (old) catmandu-store-elasticsearch version I somehow got on one of the systems
09:42 sunshine but we're not in a hurry, just started testing ES again :)
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09:52 Joubu sunshine: I am using 9.11 and I libcatmandu-perl and libcatmandu-store-elasticsearch-perl are installed without any issues
09:56 sunshine Joubu: On which OS is your setup running? And when did you start using ES/the libcatmandu packages?
09:58 sunshine Funnily, on one of the two servers where I installed ES maybe 3 months ago, everything is fine too. Something must have changed with a more recent version of Koha (or something else?)
09:59 Joubu It's a fresh install, using docker containers.
10:00 Joubu ES is running on a separate container, but the 2 packages are installed on the debian 9.11 where Koha is running on
10:02 Joubu sunshine:
10:15 sunshine Hm, that's weird. The output on my well-functioning server is quite similar, but I don't see why they don't exist on the other one
10:16 nlegrand a good day
10:17 Joubu sunshine: double check /etc/apt/sources.list.d/koha.list
10:19 sunshine its identical on both (deb stable main)
10:21 sunshine i feel like I'm missing something obvious here..
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10:54 tcohen morning all
10:56 marcelr hi tcohen
10:57 marcelr bug 24274 needs a signoff ;) easy
10:57 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=24274 normal, P5 - low, ---,, Needs Signoff , New installations should not contain field 01e Coded field error (RLIN)
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12:01 kidclamp We stopped using catmandu for indexing, but it's still used for interacting with es I believe
12:01 kidclamp There is a koha-elasticsearch package that contains all the needed modules
12:03 marcelr hi kidclamp
12:03 marcelr still having fun with es ?
12:06 kidclamp Just don't ask about authorities
12:07 marcelr wouldnt dare
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12:10 kidclamp :-)
12:19 cait sunshine: did you find your solution yet?
12:19 cait rkrimme1: pling
12:28 eythian hi
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12:42 cait hi eythian
12:43 tcohen lets bundle all the dependencies  on build time \o/
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12:47 marcelr thx tcohen++
12:48 tcohen thanks to you
12:48 tcohen I always hated that
12:48 tcohen :-D
12:48 tcohen I might have filed a bug for that a well
12:49 marcelr couldnt find it
12:49 tcohen maybe I only commented somewhere
12:49 tcohen anyways
12:49 tcohen thanks :-D
12:55 sunshine kidclamp: sorry, was off for a while. Thats a good hint with the koha-elasticsearch package, for some reason I could not find it. But if the missing catmandu package is in there, I'll find a way to get it, thanks!
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14:02 caroline_crazycatlady good morning everyone!
14:03 marcelr o/
14:05 cait good morning
14:05 cait sunshine: i guess most of us have been there...
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14:19 magnuse hiya caroline_crazycatlady of the long name, marcelr, cait
14:19 marcelr o/
14:20 marcelr magnuse: we have a field 01e removal in SO
14:20 marcelr you asked it in 2009
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14:22 oleonard Hi all
14:22 marcelr hi oleonard
14:22 wahanui hi oleopard
14:24 magnuse marcelr: yay!
14:32 cait hi magnuse
14:41 oleonard In my opinion Roxette's "Joyride" has not aged well.
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14:53 oleonard I wonder if it would make sense to have the API to return some data in a formatted version (in addition to the 'raw' version). Then we could return dates formatted according to the system pref.
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16:08 reiveune bye
16:08 reiveune à demain
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16:16 cait ashimema[m]: Joubu: bug 24278
16:16 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=24278 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Replace Locale::Currency::Format because it's buggy
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17:45 wizzyrea hi
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17:45 oleonard Hi wizzyrea
18:07 koha-jenkins Project Koha_19.11_D8 build #7: SUCCESS in 31 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]/Koha_19.11_D8/7/
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18:22 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed!
18:22 wahanui Congratulations!
18:22 koha-jenkins Project Koha_19.11_U18 build #8: FIXED in 52 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]Koha_19.11_U18/8/
18:44 kidclamp oleonard: "in a wonderful balloon"
18:45 oleonard What?
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18:46 kidclamp it's the best part of joy ride
18:47 oleonard I get it mixed up with Jane Wiedlin's "Rush hour"
18:48 * kidclamp goes to get another earworm
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19:57 oleonard See y'all later
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22:14 alexbuckley hi kathryn :)
22:14 kathryn hi alexbuckley and all :)
22:29 koha-jenkins Project Koha_19.11_D8 build #8: SUCCESS in 34 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]/Koha_19.11_D8/8/
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22:46 wizzyrea mōrena tāngata Aotearoa
22:46 hayley mōrena!
22:48 alexbuckley mōrena wizzyrea!
23:01 kathryn kia ora wizzyrea
23:02 kathryn it is total 4 seasons in one day stuff in wellington today - ferries cancelled, and bicyclists nearly getting blown into the sea this morning, and now sunshine
23:05 koha-jenkins Project Koha_19.11_D8 build #9: SUCCESS in 35 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]/Koha_19.11_D8/9/
23:13 caroline_catlady rangi, can you help with this merge request?[…]erge_requests/303
23:14 caroline_catlady I have to rebase, but I'm not sure how
23:14 caroline_catlady Last time there was a button to rebase and then I could merg
23:15 caroline_catlady maybe this one is just too behind
23:16 rangi ahh right, yep ill have a go
23:17 caroline_catlady It's such a small change, but it requires a lot of work, lol!
23:21 rangi done
23:21 caroline_catlady thx! rangi++
23:22 caroline_catlady There's another one I think ashimema[m] wanted you to look at
23:22 caroline_catlady[…]erge_requests/295
23:22 caroline_catlady See the comments
23:23 koha-jenkins Project Koha_19.11_U18 build #10: STILL UNSTABLE in 40 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]oha_19.11_U18/10/
23:23 caroline_catlady but it's not urgent or anything :)
23:24 rangi cool will take a look
23:24 caroline_catlady thx so much!
23:25 caroline_catlady I'm going home, have a good afternoon all!
23:30 koha-jenkins Project Koha_19.11_D9 build #10: UNSTABLE in 44 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]Koha_19.11_D9/10/
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23:50 koha-jenkins Project Koha_18.11_D8 build #215: SUCCESS in 27 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]oha_18.11_D8/215/
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