Time Nick Message 00:22 * oleonard hoped tcohen would have left me a message filled with wisdom 00:53 mtompset wizzyrea, Why yay hayley? Did hayley fix it? 00:55 mtompset musical flashback for oleonard: https://youtu.be/xCorJG9mubk 00:55 mtompset (Roxette's Joyride) 00:58 oleonard I remember it well. What prompted that? 01:24 mtompset "filled with wisdom" 01:24 mtompset Don't need a book of wisdom. ;) 02:36 hayley hahah yay hayley because hayley as first time release maintainer had her branch fail because of jenkins being sad, and then it was fixed by ashimema[m] :D 07:21 magnuse @later tell mtompset did you know that the first koha conference/gathering in sweden was held at a hotel owned by the guy from Roxette? 07:21 huginn magnuse: The operation succeeded. 07:21 magnuse @later tell oleonard did you know that the first koha conference/gathering in sweden was held at a hotel owned by the guy from Roxette? 07:21 huginn magnuse: The operation succeeded. 07:33 fridolin bonjour 07:34 marcelr hi #koha 07:39 reiveune hello 07:57 alex_a Bonjour 08:56 paxed is there ever going to be a push to move all the functionality from C4 to Koha? 08:58 paxed i am so discouraged by the standard "failing this because it should go into Koha, not C4" response, when all the code in question is in C4 09:00 marcelr paxed: its a long way out of C4 09:00 Joubu bug 15449 09:00 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=15449 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, NEW , Move stuff to the Koha namespace 09:00 Joubu The patches I submit there usually take 1 year to be integrated into master 09:01 cait on the plus side... some major modules are gone already 09:01 Joubu only C4::Branches so far 09:01 cait I think ashimema[m] said to push for items next? 09:02 cait might misremember 09:02 cait ah i thought we had patrons too 09:02 paxed this code split personality is hampering dev 09:02 Joubu CRUD for patrons, yes 09:02 cait i wonder if we culd make the patches smaller / easier to test in a way 09:02 Joubu I do not think so 09:03 Joubu I tried with CRUD for items, but finally ended up removing half of the module. 09:04 Joubu paxed: which code are you refering to? 09:09 paxed Joubu: concrete bugs, or just in general? eg. bug 21559 or 21215 09:09 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=21559 new feature, P5 - low, ---, pasi.kallinen, Failed QA , Rules for automatic framework codes 09:12 Joubu you can call C4 code from Koha, even if not recommended 09:12 Joubu * from the Koha:: namespace 09:14 Joubu paxed: about the different sub you added on bug 21215, take a look at Koha::AuthorisedValues, you will certainly find what you are look for 09:14 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=21215 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, pasi.kallinen, Failed QA , Saved SQL reports code improvements 09:17 sunshine Hi everyone, I have a question concerning the usage of elasticsearch with Koha 19.11.00-1 running on Debian Stretch (9.11). On a test system, I managed to install everything fine some time ago, but I wanted to start using elasticsearch on another system yesterday as well. However, some libcatmandu packages seem to be missing. I managed to install libcatmandu-perl, but libcatmandu-store-elasticsearch-perl is required. 09:17 sunshine I could not find a suitable version for Stretch. Did I miss something here? Thanks in advance! :) 09:19 rkrimme1 In addition: It looks like the package is present in Debian Buster, and it looked like it was shipped from the Koha Debian Repo before, but is no longer there 09:20 rkrimme1 so, currently, it seems that there is no clean way to install this with koha on Debian 9 09:20 * cait waves 09:20 rkrimme1 Hi cait! 09:20 rkrimme1 I finally started my irc client again 09:20 rkrimme1 ;) 09:20 cait I seem to remember a dicsussion about removing dependency on catmandu , but not sure what happened with it in the end 09:21 cait kidclamp: around? 09:21 rkrimme1 Well, it would be totally okay to remove this dependency from the koha repo if the target platform would be Debian Buster I think 09:22 cait you might want to ask again a bit later today - kidclamp (US) or tcohen (Argentinia) might know the answer 09:23 rkrimme1 Yeah, thats fine 09:23 cait bit early for them still 09:23 sunshine that would be great, thanks 09:24 sunshine we could also consider upgrading to Buster otherwise, but lets see 09:25 cait i think there was an issue with newest debian - bug 24167 09:25 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=24167 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , We should support installation on Debian 10 09:26 cait so probably better to stay off debian 10 for now 09:26 rkrimme1 I always have the feeling you know _all_ the bugs. 09:26 sunshine thats what we thought about half a year ago, just stay safe with debian 9 09:27 cait I have a strange memory for bugs, but certain topics have me lost for sure 09:30 cait bug 19983 had the discussion about catmandu i think 09:30 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=19983 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, CLOSED FIXED, Switch single-column templates to Bootstrap grid: Authorities 09:30 cait sorry, typo 09:30 cait bug 19893 09:30 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=19893 enhancement, P1 - high, ---, glasklas, RESOLVED FIXED, Alternative optimized indexing for Elasticsearch 09:32 cait it's a bit of a long read, not sure what the final result was tbh 09:35 sunshine thanks a lot, i'll have a look at it 09:37 cait it might be too old - in 18.11 already. hope the experts show up soon 09:41 sunshine but it mentions the same (old) catmandu-store-elasticsearch version I somehow got on one of the systems 09:42 sunshine but we're not in a hurry, just started testing ES again :) 09:52 Joubu sunshine: I am using 9.11 and I libcatmandu-perl and libcatmandu-store-elasticsearch-perl are installed without any issues 09:56 sunshine Joubu: On which OS is your setup running? And when did you start using ES/the libcatmandu packages? 09:58 sunshine Funnily, on one of the two servers where I installed ES maybe 3 months ago, everything is fine too. Something must have changed with a more recent version of Koha (or something else?) 09:59 Joubu It's a fresh install, using docker containers. 10:00 Joubu ES is running on a separate container, but the 2 packages are installed on the debian 9.11 where Koha is running on 10:02 Joubu sunshine: http://paste.koha-community.org/18760 10:15 sunshine Hm, that's weird. The output on my well-functioning server is quite similar, but I don't see why they don't exist on the other one 10:16 nlegrand a good day 10:17 Joubu sunshine: double check /etc/apt/sources.list.d/koha.list 10:19 sunshine its identical on both (deb http://debian.koha-community.org/koha stable main) 10:21 sunshine i feel like I'm missing something obvious here.. 10:54 tcohen morning all 10:56 marcelr hi tcohen 10:57 marcelr bug 24274 needs a signoff ;) easy 10:57 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=24274 normal, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Needs Signoff , New installations should not contain field 01e Coded field error (RLIN) 12:01 kidclamp We stopped using catmandu for indexing, but it's still used for interacting with es I believe 12:01 kidclamp There is a koha-elasticsearch package that contains all the needed modules 12:03 marcelr hi kidclamp 12:03 marcelr still having fun with es ? 12:06 kidclamp Just don't ask about authorities 12:07 marcelr wouldnt dare 12:10 kidclamp :-) 12:19 cait sunshine: did you find your solution yet? 12:19 cait rkrimme1: pling 12:28 eythian hi 12:42 cait hi eythian 12:43 tcohen lets bundle all the dependencies on build time \o/ 12:47 marcelr thx tcohen++ 12:48 tcohen thanks to you 12:48 tcohen I always hated that 12:48 tcohen :-D 12:48 tcohen I might have filed a bug for that a well 12:49 marcelr couldnt find it 12:49 tcohen maybe I only commented somewhere 12:49 tcohen anyways 12:49 tcohen thanks :-D 12:55 sunshine kidclamp: sorry, was off for a while. Thats a good hint with the koha-elasticsearch package, for some reason I could not find it. But if the missing catmandu package is in there, I'll find a way to get it, thanks! 14:02 caroline_crazycatlady good morning everyone! 14:03 marcelr o/ 14:05 cait good morning 14:05 cait sunshine: i guess most of us have been there... 14:19 magnuse hiya caroline_crazycatlady of the long name, marcelr, cait 14:19 marcelr o/ 14:20 marcelr magnuse: we have a field 01e removal in SO 14:20 marcelr you asked it in 2009 14:22 oleonard Hi all 14:22 marcelr hi oleonard 14:22 wahanui hi oleopard 14:24 magnuse marcelr: yay! 14:32 cait hi magnuse 14:41 oleonard In my opinion Roxette's "Joyride" has not aged well. 14:53 oleonard I wonder if it would make sense to have the API to return some data in a formatted version (in addition to the 'raw' version). Then we could return dates formatted according to the system pref. 16:08 reiveune bye 16:08 reiveune à demain 16:16 cait ashimema[m]: Joubu: bug 24278 16:16 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=24278 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Replace Locale::Currency::Format because it's buggy 17:45 wizzyrea hi 17:45 oleonard Hi wizzyrea 18:07 koha-jenkins Project Koha_19.11_D8 build #7: SUCCESS in 31 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_19.11_D8/7/ 18:13 koha-jenkins Project Koha_19.11_D9 build #8: SUCCESS in 47 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_19.11_D9/8/ 18:22 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed! 18:22 wahanui Congratulations! 18:22 koha-jenkins Project Koha_19.11_U18 build #8: FIXED in 52 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_19.11_U18/8/ 18:44 kidclamp oleonard: "in a wonderful balloon" 18:45 oleonard What? 18:46 kidclamp it's the best part of joy ride 18:47 oleonard I get it mixed up with Jane Wiedlin's "Rush hour" 18:48 * kidclamp goes to get another earworm 19:57 oleonard See y'all later 22:14 alexbuckley hi kathryn :) 22:14 kathryn hi alexbuckley and all :) 22:29 koha-jenkins Project Koha_19.11_D8 build #8: SUCCESS in 34 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_19.11_D8/8/ 22:42 koha-jenkins Project Koha_19.11_U18 build #9: UNSTABLE in 42 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_19.11_U18/9/ 22:45 koha-jenkins Project Koha_19.11_D9 build #9: SUCCESS in 44 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_19.11_D9/9/ 22:46 wizzyrea mÅrena tÄngata Aotearoa 22:46 hayley mÅrena! 22:48 alexbuckley mÅrena wizzyrea! 23:01 kathryn kia ora wizzyrea 23:02 kathryn it is total 4 seasons in one day stuff in wellington today - ferries cancelled, and bicyclists nearly getting blown into the sea this morning, and now sunshine 23:05 koha-jenkins Project Koha_19.11_D8 build #9: SUCCESS in 35 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_19.11_D8/9/ 23:13 caroline_catlady rangi, can you help with this merge request? https://gitlab.com/koha-community/koha-manual/merge_requests/303 23:14 caroline_catlady I have to rebase, but I'm not sure how 23:14 caroline_catlady Last time there was a button to rebase and then I could merg 23:15 caroline_catlady maybe this one is just too behind 23:16 rangi ahh right, yep ill have a go 23:17 caroline_catlady It's such a small change, but it requires a lot of work, lol! 23:21 rangi done 23:21 caroline_catlady thx! rangi++ 23:22 caroline_catlady There's another one I think ashimema[m] wanted you to look at 23:22 caroline_catlady https://gitlab.com/koha-community/koha-manual/merge_requests/295 23:22 caroline_catlady See the comments 23:23 koha-jenkins Project Koha_19.11_U18 build #10: STILL UNSTABLE in 40 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_19.11_U18/10/ 23:23 caroline_catlady but it's not urgent or anything :) 23:24 rangi cool will take a look 23:24 caroline_catlady thx so much! 23:25 caroline_catlady I'm going home, have a good afternoon all! 23:30 koha-jenkins Project Koha_19.11_D9 build #10: UNSTABLE in 44 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_19.11_D9/10/ 23:50 koha-jenkins Project Koha_18.11_D8 build #215: SUCCESS in 27 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_18.11_D8/215/ 23:50 koha-jenkins Project Koha_18.11_U18 build #207: SUCCESS in 44 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_18.11_U18/207/