IRC log for #koha, 2019-12-12

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07:40 reiveune hello
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08:03 magnuse bonjou reiveune
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08:05 alex_a Bonjour
08:05 wahanui niihau, alex_a
08:10 josef_moravec morning #koha
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08:52 * andreashm waves
08:52 andreashm Very interesting meeting yesterday. Good discussion.
08:53 calire morning
08:53 magnuse hiya andreashm and calire
08:53 andreashm hi calire
08:54 calire hey magnuse and andreashm
08:54 calire o/
08:54 andreashm happy to read through the logs and see licorice chips get mentioned again.
08:54 andreashm ;)
08:54 ashimema lol
08:58 ashimema can i assume you're using rocket chat with a pretty minimal vps magnuse?
09:00 ashimema I'm thinking start at their minimal VPS and up it to recommended as required..
09:00 magnuse let me check
09:01 ashimema looks like linode and digital ocean are pretty much matching each other on price these days too
09:01 magnuse "Linode 2GB: 1 CPU, 50GB Storage, 2GB RAM"
09:02 ashimema you're in 'recommended' territory there rather than 'minimal'.. interesting
09:02 magnuse its the smallest "standard plan" linode
09:03 magnuse it's only running rocket with 2-3 users. load is currently at 0.00 :-)
09:04 ashimema indeed
09:05 ashimema the docs claim you have allot of capacity there.. upto 500 users ;)
09:05 ashimema with 100 concurrently active
09:05 ashimema I reckon we occasionaly get 100 concurrently active in here
09:05 ashimema not often though
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09:06 ashimema and I'm not sure what they mean by active..
09:06 ashimema sitting and watching logged in.. or actually participating in chat
09:06 ashimema if they mean actually participating I'm not sure my brain could keep up with such a conversation ;P
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09:18 magnuse hehe, true
09:19 magnuse i would guess just watching the conversation puts the most strain on the server, if you talk or not has less impact. just a guess though
09:19 magnuse yeah, we might look at downgrading to the nanode...
09:20 magnuse or just stay prepared to become a 500 person company ;-)
09:21 andreashm I think it's logged-in users
09:21 andreashm that's the way Slack talks about it, and I'm sure does the same
09:21 andreashm You can have the same user on multiple devices too
09:22 andreashm ashimema magnuse ^^
09:23 ashimema indeed
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09:26 dersmon hi everyone
09:33 dersmon i sometimes get the following error: Can't call method "raw" on an undefined value at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/ line 818.
09:33 dersmon i get an empty result list for the search and this message
09:34 dersmon if i repeat the search, everything works fine
09:34 dersmon i am sadly unable to reproduce this actively
09:35 dersmon the line is:     my $facet = $rs->record( 0 )->raw;
09:40 Joubu dersmon: new installation?
09:41 dersmon not really, it is our test environment
09:41 Joubu There is bug 17123 that suggests to rebuild the zebra's index. But it does not work 100% of the time.
09:41 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=17123 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , Can't call method "raw" on an undefined value at C4/ line 806
09:42 Joubu If it does not work I'd double-check zebra config files
09:48 dersmon i also got a lot of zebrasrv(42) [warn] ir_session (exception)
09:50 andreashm Should anyone here happen to speak Swedish and want to work at a large university library, we are now looking for two new developers. Contact me for more info! =)
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09:55 magnuse andreashm: cool! is perl a requirement?
09:55 andreashm magnuse: no.
09:56 andreashm but for one of the two, it is good to have.
10:01 magnuse ah
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12:42 oleonard Hi #koha
12:46 cait hi oleonard
12:46 wahanui hi oleopard
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13:19 nlegrand ay up #koha
13:22 oleonard ◝(•̀ᴗ•́)ノ
13:24 nlegrand :D
13:26 kohaputti so the call for papers for kohacon 2020 is really tomorrow even though kohacon is so far away?
13:27 magnuse yup
13:27 kohaputti hmm, someone just told me it is now the 16th
13:28 kohaputti not 13th
13:28 kohaputti the deadline i mean
13:28 magnuse dunno, but it is right around the corner, at least
13:28 magnuse maybe check the minutes from last nights meeting?
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13:29 oleonard kohaputti: The early deadline was to allow for as much advanced travel planning as possible I think
13:29 kohaputti ok
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14:00 dersmon zebra is single core only?
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14:02 dersmon and what is the current state of elastic search support? :)
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14:07 oleonard sorry dersmon everyone seems to be asleep
14:07 dersmon :D
14:12 kohaputti dersmon, it's pretty good if you add your own mappings / search fields, otherwise not so much.
14:12 kohaputti and it is missing weights sooo
14:12 kohaputti you don't get title matches or author matches first
14:13 kohaputti you have to define those yourself too if you want it to work well
14:14 kohaputti dersmon, upside from zebra: the search is fast
14:14 dersmon it seems i have to deactivate the facet search
14:15 dersmon otherwise it takes 30+ seconds
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14:16 oleonard khall_ awake?
14:20 dersmon i have two
14:21 dersmon at /usr/share/koha/
14:21 dersmon and
14:21 dersmon at /etc/koha/
14:21 dersmon which one should i edit to set use_zebra_facet=0
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14:28 Joubu dersmon: none, /etc/koha/sites/$INSTANCE/koha-conf.xml
14:28 dersmon ah
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14:45 oleonard khall awake?
14:50 khall oleonard what's up?
14:51 oleonard I was looking at Bug 24097 and I was curious why an empty table of claims doesn't show a message about there being no data
14:51 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=24097 minor, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , Don't show claims tab in patron account, when there are no claims
14:51 oleonard Isn't that typically what happens when there is an empty datatable?
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15:04 caroline_catlady hi all!
15:07 oleonard Hi caroline_catlady
15:08 * oleonard feeling grumpy that he can't find the branch he remembers doing work on which is now missing
15:11 Joubu maybe `git reflog` could help you
15:12 * caroline_catlady is feeling grumpy because Celine Dion christmas song is playing really loud in the office
15:12 * caroline_catlady is a grinch
15:12 oleonard Thanks Joubu I'll try that
15:12 * oleonard grinches along with caroline_catlady
15:13 eythian git reflog is the best command to remember to get yourself out of trouble.
15:15 oleonard git reflog == success!
15:15 eythian aliasing to 'git ohshit' is recommended
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15:28 vfernandes someone had this error with Koha and ES6: Custom Analyzer [analyzer_phrase] failed to find filter under name [icu_folding]
15:28 vfernandes ?
15:29 kidclamp do you have the most recent ICU plugin?
15:29 kidclamp I haven't tested ES6 in a bit
15:30 kidclamp you may need to remove and reinstall the plugin if you upgraded
15:46 vfernandes kidclamp: i've installed the plugin but i didn't restart the elasticsearch
15:47 vfernandes problem solved
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16:09 reiveune bye
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16:42 qasim Anyone has any experience with setting up Koha on Ubuntu 18?
16:43 qasim What database should I go with MySQL or MariaDB? Because I remember a while ago I tried to set up MySQL and it was giving errors during the web installation, and I was suggest to go with MariaDB instead here on IRC. Now when install MariaDB I get an error ` mariadb-server : Depends: mariadb-server-10.1 (>= 1:10.1.43-0ubuntu0.18.04.1) but it is not going to be installed`. Any help would be appreciated :)
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16:59 qasim Alright I fixed it. Anyone interested can use these steps to install mariadb-server on Ubuntu 18 https://community.easyengine.i[…]-core-5-5/13393/3 and later can use this script to create the `debian-sys-maint` user for the db since koha-create uses this user to create teh database[…]d01f4d9880c341ff0
16:59 oleonard See y'all later
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17:41 davidnind kohapuuti: the date for Kohacon20 talk submissions is now 16th (whatever timezone) (see[…]5070292965445637)
17:42 davidnind kohaputi: oops, sorry spelt name wrong!
17:42 davidnind and again!
17:45 davidnind kohaputti: (got it right this time!) as oleonard said, early call is for those travelling lead-in time for funding (see[…]1250658952761344)
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18:11 * ashimema doesn't have school dates set yet so can't commit yet
18:12 davidnind ashimema: crosses fingers that they will work out!
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19:06 davidnind anyone up/around/awake for the documentation meeting, or defer?
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19:08 davidnind I'll give it a couple of minutes, then defer I think...
19:08 thd Now connecting from California.
19:08 thd hello davidnind
19:08 davidnind hi thd!
19:09 davidnind are you travelling?
19:09 thd I have arrived at my mother's place in Sacramento, California and will be here until 26 December.
19:10 davidnind nice!
19:10 thd Between chores I will be working on automating the wiki upgrade including the upgrade step.
19:11 davidnind there is always something when you go 'home'
19:11 thd I had to defer work a couple of weeks ago because my ID expires tomorrow and I had to fetch documents to prove my identity.
19:11 davidnind great to see, I'm sure you will be glad when it is done
19:11 thd Yes, I was promised many unpleasant chores.
19:12 davidnind not so good :-(
19:12 davidnind ha ha (about the chores!)
19:13 davidnind I'm skipping going home for xmas this year, no leave + I left it too late to book reasonably priced plane fares
19:13 thd Do not get old and then you will not need to have your children do chores which no one could even be hired to do :)
19:13 davidnind :)
19:14 davidnind no kids, so I guess it will be up to me!
19:15 davidnind looks like everyone is busy, so will defer documentation IRC meeting  (apologies from Lucy)
19:15 thd I have no children either so I will have to opt for the not getting old option.  I do borrow children of my friends for fun and games but I expect they will not remember all the things I had done for them in a few years.
19:16 davidnind opts for not getting old, but reality hasn't caught up to science fiction, yet...
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19:20 davidnind will make the next documentation meeting 8 January 2020 13:30 UTC ([…]so=20200109T1330)
19:21 davidnind unless caroline_catlady  wants to change it, will send to mailing list
19:22 caroline_catlady oh god, did I forget the meeting?
19:22 thd The wiki database migration automation is essentially done except for a good automated diff comparison.  Yet to do is automating the post migration upgrade process.
19:23 davidnind maybe....
19:23 caroline_catlady there is already a general meeting on jan 8
19:23 caroline_catlady maybe the 9?
19:24 davidnind that should be the 9th! PBEK (problem between eyes and keyboard)
19:24 caroline_catlady so sorry... I was really into what I was doing and totally forgot the time
19:25 davidnind documentation meeting 9January 2020 13:30 UTC ([…]so=20200109T1330)
19:25 ashimema Oops, sorry.. missed the meeting
19:25 caroline_catlady same
19:25 davidnind no worries, have deferred
19:25 davidnind I'm sure everyone is busy in the lead up to xmas
19:26 davidnind thd: thanks for all you work on this, it will be nice when it is done and we have an updated wiki
19:27 caroline_catlady Yes thanks thd for your work on the wiki
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19:29 thd Long overdue work which I had previously promised years ago.  Elderly people whom I was looking after had to take precedence while I was uniquely able to help keep them going.
19:30 davidnind see you all later/earlier - work 'offsite' meeting to go to ;-)
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19:31 * thd has chores to do for mummy.
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