Time  Nick               Message
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19:31 * thd              has chores to do for mummy.
19:30 davidnind          see you all later/earlier - work 'offsite' meeting to go to ;-)
19:29 thd                Long overdue work which I had previously promised years ago.  Elderly people whom I was looking after had to take precedence while I was uniquely able to help keep them going.
19:27 caroline_catlady   Yes thanks thd for your work on the wiki
19:26 davidnind          thd: thanks for all you work on this, it will be nice when it is done and we have an updated wiki
19:25 davidnind          I'm sure everyone is busy in the lead up to xmas
19:25 davidnind          no worries, have deferred
19:25 caroline_catlady   same
19:25 ashimema           Oops, sorry.. missed the meeting
19:25 davidnind          documentation meeting 9January 2020 13:30 UTC (https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=Koha+Documentation+IRC+Meeting&iso=20200109T1330)
19:24 caroline_catlady   so sorry... I was really into what I was doing and totally forgot the time
19:24 davidnind          that should be the 9th! PBEK (problem between eyes and keyboard)
19:23 caroline_catlady   maybe the 9?
19:23 caroline_catlady   there is already a general meeting on jan 8
19:23 davidnind          maybe....
19:22 thd                The wiki database migration automation is essentially done except for a good automated diff comparison.  Yet to do is automating the post migration upgrade process.
19:22 caroline_catlady   oh god, did I forget the meeting?
19:21 davidnind          unless caroline_catlady  wants to change it, will send to mailing list
19:20 davidnind          will make the next documentation meeting 8 January 2020 13:30 UTC (https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=Koha+Documentation+IRC+Meeting&iso=20200109T1330)
19:16 davidnind          opts for not getting old, but reality hasn't caught up to science fiction, yet...
19:15 thd                I have no children either so I will have to opt for the not getting old option.  I do borrow children of my friends for fun and games but I expect they will not remember all the things I had done for them in a few years.
19:15 davidnind          looks like everyone is busy, so will defer documentation IRC meeting  (apologies from Lucy)
19:14 davidnind          no kids, so I guess it will be up to me!
19:13 davidnind          :)
19:13 thd                Do not get old and then you will not need to have your children do chores which no one could even be hired to do :)
19:13 davidnind          I'm skipping going home for xmas this year, no leave + I left it too late to book reasonably priced plane fares
19:12 davidnind          ha ha (about the chores!)
19:12 davidnind          not so good :-(
19:11 thd                Yes, I was promised many unpleasant chores.
19:11 davidnind          great to see, I'm sure you will be glad when it is done
19:11 thd                I had to defer work a couple of weeks ago because my ID expires tomorrow and I had to fetch documents to prove my identity.
19:11 davidnind          there is always something when you go 'home'
19:10 thd                Between chores I will be working on automating the wiki upgrade including the upgrade step.
19:10 davidnind          nice!
19:09 thd                I have arrived at my mother's place in Sacramento, California and will be here until 26 December.
19:09 davidnind          are you travelling?
19:08 davidnind          hi thd!
19:08 thd                hello davidnind
19:08 thd                Now connecting from California.
19:08 davidnind          I'll give it a couple of minutes, then defer I think...
19:06 davidnind          anyone up/around/awake for the documentation meeting, or defer?
18:12 davidnind          ashimema: crosses fingers that they will work out!
18:11 * ashimema         doesn't have school dates set yet so can't commit yet
17:45 davidnind          kohaputti: (got it right this time!) as oleonard said, early call is for those travelling lead-in time for funding (see https://twitter.com/catalystkoha/status/1201250658952761344)
17:42 davidnind          and again!
17:42 davidnind          kohaputi: oops, sorry spelt name wrong!
17:41 davidnind          kohapuuti: the date for Kohacon20 talk submissions is now 16th (whatever timezone) (see https://twitter.com/kohails/status/1205070292965445637)
16:59 oleonard           See y'all later
16:59 qasim              Alright I fixed it. Anyone interested can use these steps to install mariadb-server on Ubuntu 18 https://community.easyengine.io/t/unmet-dependencies-mariadb-server-10-1-conflicts-with-mysql-server-core-5-5/13393/3 and later can use this script to create the `debian-sys-maint` user for the db since koha-create uses this user to create teh database https://gist.github.com/waja/da28a83b29cd67ad01f4d9880c341ff0
16:58 koha-jenkins       Project Koha_19.05_U18 build #68: STILL UNSTABLE in 36 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_19.05_U18/68/
16:53 koha-jenkins       Project Koha_19.05_D9 build #69: STILL UNSTABLE in 38 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_19.05_D9/69/
16:49 koha-jenkins       Project Koha_19.05_D8 build #68: STILL UNSTABLE in 35 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_19.05_D8/68/
16:43 qasim              What database should I go with MySQL or MariaDB? Because I remember a while ago I tried to set up MySQL and it was giving errors during the web installation, and I was suggest to go with MariaDB instead here on IRC. Now when install MariaDB I get an error ` mariadb-server : Depends: mariadb-server-10.1 (>= 1:10.1.43-0ubuntu0.18.04.1) but it is not going to be installed`. Any help would be appreciated :)
16:42 qasim              Anyone has any experience with setting up Koha on Ubuntu 18?
16:09 reiveune           bye
15:47 vfernandes         problem solved
15:46 vfernandes         kidclamp: i've installed the plugin but i didn't restart the elasticsearch
15:30 kidclamp           you may need to remove and reinstall the plugin if you upgraded
15:29 kidclamp           I haven't tested ES6 in a bit
15:29 kidclamp           do you have the most recent ICU plugin?
15:28 vfernandes         ?
15:28 vfernandes         someone had this error with Koha and ES6: Custom Analyzer [analyzer_phrase] failed to find filter under name [icu_folding]
15:15 eythian            aliasing to 'git ohshit' is recommended
15:15 oleonard           git reflog == success!
15:13 eythian            git reflog is the best command to remember to get yourself out of trouble.
15:12 * oleonard         grinches along with caroline_catlady
15:12 oleonard           Thanks Joubu I'll try that
15:12 * caroline_catlady is a grinch
15:12 * caroline_catlady is feeling grumpy because Celine Dion christmas song is playing really loud in the office
15:11 Joubu              maybe `git reflog` could help you
15:08 * oleonard         feeling grumpy that he can't find the branch he remembers doing work on which is now missing
15:07 oleonard           Hi caroline_catlady
15:04 caroline_catlady   hi all!
14:51 oleonard           Isn't that typically what happens when there is an empty datatable?
14:51 huginn             Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=24097 minor, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , Don't show claims tab in patron account, when there are no claims
14:51 oleonard           I was looking at Bug 24097 and I was curious why an empty table of claims doesn't show a message about there being no data
14:50 khall              oleonard what's up?
14:45 oleonard           khall awake?
14:28 dersmon            ah
14:28 Joubu              dersmon: none, /etc/koha/sites/$INSTANCE/koha-conf.xml
14:21 dersmon            which one should i edit to set use_zebra_facet=0
14:21 dersmon            at /etc/koha/koha-conf-site.xml.in
14:21 dersmon            and
14:21 dersmon            at /usr/share/koha/koha-conf.xml.in
14:20 dersmon            i have two koha-conf-site.xml.in
14:16 oleonard           khall_ awake?
14:15 dersmon            otherwise it takes 30+ seconds
14:14 dersmon            it seems i have to deactivate the facet search
14:14 kohaputti          dersmon, upside from zebra: the search is fast
14:13 kohaputti          you have to define those yourself too if you want it to work well
14:12 kohaputti          you don't get title matches or author matches first
14:12 kohaputti          and it is missing weights sooo
14:12 kohaputti          dersmon, it's pretty good if you add your own mappings / search fields, otherwise not so much.
14:07 dersmon            :D
14:07 oleonard           sorry dersmon everyone seems to be asleep
14:02 dersmon            and what is the current state of elastic search support? :)
14:00 dersmon            zebra is single core only?
13:29 kohaputti          ok
13:29 oleonard           kohaputti: The early deadline was to allow for as much advanced travel planning as possible I think
13:28 magnuse            maybe check the minutes from last nights meeting?
13:28 magnuse            dunno, but it is right around the corner, at least
13:28 kohaputti          the deadline i mean
13:28 kohaputti          not 13th
13:27 kohaputti          hmm, someone just told me it is now the 16th
13:27 magnuse            yup
13:26 kohaputti          so the call for papers for kohacon 2020 is really tomorrow even though kohacon is so far away?
13:24 nlegrand           :D
13:22 oleonard           ◝(•̀ᴗ•́)ノ
13:19 nlegrand           ay up #koha
12:46 wahanui            hi oleopard
12:46 cait               hi oleonard
12:42 oleonard           Hi #koha
10:01 magnuse            ah
09:56 andreashm          but for one of the two, it is good to have.
09:55 andreashm          magnuse: no.
09:55 magnuse            andreashm: cool! is perl a requirement?
09:50 andreashm          Should anyone here happen to speak Swedish and want to work at a large university library, we are now looking for two new developers. Contact me for more info! =)
09:48 dersmon            i also got a lot of zebrasrv(42) [warn] ir_session (exception)
09:42 Joubu              If it does not work I'd double-check zebra config files
09:41 huginn             Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=17123 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , Can't call method "raw" on an undefined value at C4/Search.pm line 806
09:41 Joubu              There is bug 17123 that suggests to rebuild the zebra's index. But it does not work 100% of the time.
09:41 dersmon            not really, it is our test environment
09:40 Joubu              dersmon: new installation?
09:35 dersmon            the line is:     my $facet = $rs->record( 0 )->raw;
09:34 dersmon            i am sadly unable to reproduce this actively
09:34 dersmon            if i repeat the search, everything works fine
09:33 dersmon            i get an empty result list for the search and this message
09:33 dersmon            i sometimes get the following error: Can't call method "raw" on an undefined value at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Search.pm line 818.
09:26 dersmon            hi everyone
09:23 ashimema           indeed
09:22 andreashm          ashimema magnuse ^^
09:21 andreashm          You can have the same user on multiple devices too
09:21 andreashm          that's the way Slack talks about it, and I'm sure rocket.chat does the same
09:21 andreashm          I think it's logged-in users
09:20 magnuse            or just stay prepared to become a 500 person company ;-)
09:19 magnuse            yeah, we might look at downgrading to the nanode...
09:19 magnuse            i would guess just watching the conversation puts the most strain on the server, if you talk or not has less impact. just a guess though
09:18 magnuse            hehe, true
09:06 ashimema           if they mean actually participating I'm not sure my brain could keep up with such a conversation ;P
09:06 ashimema           sitting and watching logged in.. or actually participating in chat
09:06 ashimema           and I'm not sure what they mean by active..
09:05 ashimema           not often though
09:05 ashimema           I reckon we occasionaly get 100 concurrently active in here
09:05 ashimema           with 100 concurrently active
09:05 ashimema           the rocket.chat docs claim you have allot of capacity there.. upto 500 users ;)
09:04 ashimema           indeed
09:03 magnuse            it's only running rocket with 2-3 users. load is currently at 0.00 :-)
09:02 magnuse            its the smallest "standard plan" linode
09:02 ashimema           you're in 'recommended' territory there rather than 'minimal'.. interesting
09:01 magnuse            "Linode 2GB: 1 CPU, 50GB Storage, 2GB RAM"
09:01 ashimema           looks like linode and digital ocean are pretty much matching each other on price these days too
09:00 magnuse            let me check
09:00 ashimema           I'm thinking start at their minimal VPS and up it to recommended as required..
08:58 ashimema           can i assume you're using rocket chat with a pretty minimal vps magnuse?
08:54 ashimema           lol
08:54 andreashm          ;)
08:54 andreashm          happy to read through the logs and see licorice chips get mentioned again.
08:54 calire             o/
08:54 calire             hey magnuse and andreashm
08:53 andreashm          hi calire
08:53 magnuse            hiya andreashm and calire
08:53 calire             morning
08:52 andreashm          Very interesting meeting yesterday. Good discussion.
08:52 * andreashm        waves
08:10 josef_moravec      morning #koha
08:05 wahanui            niihau, alex_a
08:05 alex_a             Bonjour
08:03 magnuse            bonjou reiveune
07:40 reiveune           hello
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