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mtompset: The operation succeeded. |
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@later tell ashimema -- bug 23250 |
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@later tell tcohen http://localhost:8080/cgi-bin/[…]?biblionumber=208 -- bug 22696 changed happily failing magically hashes into hard crashing method calls on undefined objects. |
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hi |
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kia ora, fridolin |
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wahanui: hot summer ? |
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fridolin: wish i knew |
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hello |
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salut, reiveune |
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huginn` |
News from kohagit: Bug 14419: (QA follow-up) Restore the link styling <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]3cd3d127d9d3ef6fa> |
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huginn` |
News from kohagit: Bug 23255: Correct HomeOrHoldingBranch descriptions <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]d06e43b8b71b655e9> |
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huginn` |
News from kohagit: Bug 14419: Expanding facets (Show more) performs a new search <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]9c0f118dda7815cc1> |
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huginn` |
News from kohagit: Bug 23250: Just use an @ in the password <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]6552e19404ac7afab> |
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Yippee, build fixed! |
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wahanui |
Congratulations! |
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hi #koha |
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Yippee, build fixed! |
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Congratulations! |
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huginn` |
News from kohagit: Bug 22709: (follow-up) Move new test file into a Plugins subdirectory <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]a2a234229ce40a785> |
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News from kohagit: Bug 22709: (follow-up) Mock enable_plugins config entry <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]4908e2ccb3b8627e1> |
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huginn` |
News from kohagit: Bug 22999: (follow-up) Indentation updates <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]b028ac4946726e823> |
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News from kohagit: Bug 22999: Switch two-column templates to Bootstrap grid: Circulation <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]f14ace3b5a6ca4641> |
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News from kohagit: Bug 22709: Add after biblio/item action hooks <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]1a9a44bc015efb74a> |
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News from kohagit: Bug 22709: Unit tests <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]f49d4414dc9555475> |
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News from kohagit: Bug 21801: (follow-up) Use ->account <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]f0a88389d80a47bab> |
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News from kohagit: Bug 21801: Make paycollect.pl pass library_id when calling ->pay <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]660e589adf4baab5d> |
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caroline_catlady |
good morning everyone! |
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davidnind |
Hi caroline_catlady and AndyBoze! |
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AndyBoze |
Hello! |
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hi davidnind and AndyBoze! |
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davidnind |
Looks like there are at least a couple of us here for the documentation meeting! |
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davidnind |
#startmeeting Documentation IRC meeting 4 July 2019 |
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huginn` |
Meeting started Thu Jul 4 13:02:07 2019 UTC. The chair is davidnind. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. |
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huginn` |
Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. |
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Topic for #koha is now (Meeting topic: Documentation IRC meeting 4 July 2019) |
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huginn` |
The meeting name has been set to 'documentation_irc_meeting_4_july_2019' |
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davidnind |
#info Agenda https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]eting_4_July_2019 |
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davidnind |
#topic Introductions |
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Topic for #koha is now Introductions (Meeting topic: Documentation IRC meeting 4 July 2019) |
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davidnind |
#info David Nind, New Zealand |
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caroline_catlady |
#info Caroline Cyr La Rose, inLibro |
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AndyBoze |
#info Andy Boze, University of Notre Dame, USA |
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davidnind |
That looks all of us for today I think! |
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davidnind |
#chair caroline_catlady, AndyBoze |
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huginn` |
Current chairs: AndyBoze caroline_catlady davidnind |
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davidnind |
#topic Action points |
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Topic for #koha is now Action points (Meeting topic: Documentation IRC meeting 4 July 2019) |
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caroline_catlady |
this is the meeting with the highest chair/participant ratio XD |
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ashimema |
sorry, in a company meeting (in person) today |
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ashimema |
have a good meeting |
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ashimema |
#info Apologies, Martin Renvoize PTFS-E |
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davidnind |
no worries ashimema - you can read the minutes later! |
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davidnind |
Nothing to report really on all my action points... |
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caroline_catlady |
do you want to delegate? |
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caroline_catlady |
I could work on style guide and/or git guide |
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davidnind |
Help with the git guide would be great, I was just about to add a page to the wiki with an outline, so will do that after this |
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davidnind |
..meeting |
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caroline_catlady |
ok I will flesh it up after |
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davidnind |
Thanks caroline_catlady! |
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caroline_catlady |
#action davidnind will create wiki page for git guide |
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caroline_catlady |
#action caroline_catlady will work on git guide |
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davidnind |
I sent an email to the docs list just before on easy, medium and hard tasks - don't expect anyone to have read it yet |
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caroline_catlady |
I got all the taiga emails but I don't see the docs email... |
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davidnind |
I've tagged a small number of tasks I think fit the criteria |
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AndyBoze |
I've been looking them over. I'll try to tackle at least some easy ones. |
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caroline_catlady |
AndyBoze++ |
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davidnind |
#info Initial attempt at easy, medium and hard tasks http://lists.koha-community.or[…]-July/000251.html |
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caroline_catlady |
cool! I like the use of tags |
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davidnind |
We can see if that helps, let me know AndyBoze |
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davidnind |
I'm not sure how well the tags will work, as it picks up items with those words in them, including closed items |
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AndyBoze |
Will do, davidnind |
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davidnind |
But I guess it is a start |
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cait |
@info Katrin Fischer, BSZ |
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huginn` |
cait: Error: The command "info" is available in the Factoids and RSS plugins. Please specify the plugin whose command you wish to call by using its name as a command before "info". |
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wahanui |
i already had it that way, huginn`. |
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cait |
#info Katrin Fischer, BSZ |
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davidnind |
Hi cait! |
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davidnind |
If it doesn't work I can do a wiki page! |
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cait |
sorry for being late - I think this might be missing from the official calendar? |
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caroline_catlady |
I think it is there... no? |
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cait |
it is - https://koha-community.org/calendar/ |
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cait |
all good then, it's me :) |
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caroline_catlady |
no worries! |
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davidnind |
it has been one of the weeks for the last few weeks at work, so will try and progress the other things over the next week or so |
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davidnind |
#topic What's been done so far |
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Topic for #koha is now What's been done so far (Meeting topic: Documentation IRC meeting 4 July 2019) |
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davidnind |
There was an education meeting, which went very well - do you want to provide an update caroline_catlady, or just refer to your highlights? |
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caroline_catlady |
well the highlghts is pretty much all the notes I took ^_^;; |
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caroline_catlady |
But there was interest to participate in the community, which I thought was great |
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caroline_catlady |
but people didn't know how to go about it |
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caroline_catlady |
I think that's a recurring theme... |
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davidnind |
#info Education meeting highlights https://lists.katipo.co.nz/pip[…]-June/053227.html |
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caroline_catlady |
Other things non-education related that I noted : we need a how-to setup Koha for newbies |
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caroline_catlady |
ok, that was just one thing, I thought I had more hehe! |
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caroline_catlady |
The koha-US group did a page that reorganizes the manual more visually |
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caroline_catlady |
#link https://koha-us.org/learn-from-koha-us/ |
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davidnind |
I thinks so too, it is a daunting thing I think when you are starting out - so many areas and things to consider |
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davidnind |
#action Add task for getting started with Koha |
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cait |
caroline_catlady: there is a very old one from Brooke |
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cait |
(setup for newbies) |
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cait |
but it's in dire need for an update |
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cait |
#link https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Newbie_guide |
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davidnind |
Thanks cait, I was trying to find it! |
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cait |
np |
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caroline_catlady |
I think the need was how to install? |
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cait |
as a non native speaker i suggest to keep language simple and consistent |
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cait |
not too simple, but trying to have not too long paragraphs etc |
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davidnind |
There are normally two challenges I think |
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caroline_catlady |
I feel like we could link from there to the manual, but how do we keep the links up to date? |
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davidnind |
One is installing Koha |
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davidnind |
The other is what do I do now? |
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caroline_catlady |
that is one long wiki page @_@ |
| 13:26 |
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davidnind |
There is the installation guide for packages on Debian and Ubuntu, so we could at least link to the correct ones |
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davidnind |
it is, and i think will always be a challenge... |
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koha-jenkins |
Project Koha_Master_D9 build #807: STILL UNSTABLE in 29 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]ha_Master_D9/807/ |
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davidnind |
So, should we link to these, or add some tasks and work through creating some content that is ideally less daunting? |
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cait |
could we have a checklist for starters in the manual? |
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cait |
that would help with linking to sections |
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cait |
and with the version changes |
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caroline_catlady |
I need to think about it |
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davidnind |
personally I think we should have an official installation guide and then some sort of guide on how to setup Koha for the first time |
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davidnind |
but starting at least with a checklist and linking would be a great start |
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caroline_catlady |
I thought there was an implementation checklist |
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davidnind |
There is, at the nearly very end https://koha-community.org/man[…]on_checklist.html |
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caroline_catlady |
Is the term "implementation" not clear enough? |
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cait |
hm so maybe an update |
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cait |
i also feel data migration doesn't describe the first part well |
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caroline_catlady |
We could rename it "getting started" checklist? |
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cait |
i'd like that |
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davidnind |
Switching that around to near the start some way, rather than getting straight into a 1000 or so system preferences might help |
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caroline_catlady |
yes I think so too |
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caroline_catlady |
It could act a a sort of table of contents, like "here's what you need to know to start, a) xxx (link to a), b) xxx (link to b)" |
| 13:35 |
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davidnind |
I'm happy to have a go at reorganising/rewording the structure a bit, and publishing in a test place for feedback if that would help |
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davidnind |
AndyBoze: any thoughts on this and your experiences |
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davidnind |
(hope you don't think we're ignoring you!!) |
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koha-jenkins |
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AndyBoze |
davidnind: Not feeling ignored! Interesting conversation, but nothing really to say. I agree with all. |
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davidnind |
thanks AndyBoze! |
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davidnind |
#action davidnind to reorganise/reword structure and open up for feedback |
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davidnind |
Should we raise at the general meeting next week to see if they have any thoughts? |
| 13:41 |
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davidnind |
#chair cait |
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huginn` |
Current chairs: AndyBoze cait caroline_catlady davidnind |
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cait |
oops |
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cait |
what did I do? :) |
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davidnind |
100% coverage for chairs now!:) |
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caroline_catlady |
maybe they could help with the installation guides. I think there is a lot of clean up to do in the wiki |
| 13:42 |
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davidnind |
nothing... |
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caroline_catlady |
Is there a way to archive things in MediaWiki? There are some installation guides for very old versions, but I didn't want to erase anything |
| 13:43 |
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davidnind |
I think the last thing we want to do is confuse people when they are just starting, and remove as much as the 'barriers to entry' as is possible |
| 13:43 |
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caroline_catlady |
+1 |
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cait |
sounds good about the installation guides |
| 13:43 |
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cait |
might be due with new OS versions |
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davidnind |
There should be in wikimedia, will have a look - as a minimum you want to make sure they get the current stuff, and can refer to archived material if required |
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caroline_catlady |
exactly |
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koha-jenkins |
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davidnind |
Ideally we would want google to show they most current and up-to-date installation and getting started guide, but might take a bit with all the material out there! |
| 13:47 |
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cait |
caroline_catlady: we have only marked/tagged some as obsolete... you can't really delete pages right now :( |
| 13:47 |
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cait |
I feel the wiki needs an update |
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caroline_catlady |
wiki = always needs an update |
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cait |
some thigns are not working quite right and we need a way to remove old content better |
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cait |
meant the software |
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cait |
our mediawiki has been stuck on a very old version due to some extensions (that I feel we don't really make use of) |
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cait |
a fresh start there might do wonders |
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caroline_catlady |
ah ok! but the content too hehe! |
| 13:48 |
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cait |
yep the content too |
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cait |
here some examples for 'obsolete' marked pages: |
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cait |
#link https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]irtual_Appliances obsolete 1 |
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caroline_catlady |
I know there is a spot open for wiki curator |
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cait |
#link https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]-to-tt-conversion obsolete 2 |
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davidnind |
I've raised a bugzilla request for an update - bug 23073 |
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huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=23073 normal, P5 - low, ---, gmc, NEW , wiki.koha-community.org needs updating to a later version |
| 13:48 |
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caroline_catlady |
I think it is still open |
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caroline_catlady |
Is that the kind of thing this person would do? |
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cait |
gmcharlt: trying a summon :) did you happen to see bug 23073? |
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cait |
i think the curator position is not super clearly defined |
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draws symbols on the floor in chalk to help with the summoning |
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cait |
thd had planned to do updates but I think never got around to it - it's something I think a volunteer could pick up |
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davidnind |
he may be on a different plane... |
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cait |
but i might not be the easisest task given we have an old version with custom things (not sure how much really) |
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cait |
davidnind++ caroline_catlady++ |
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caroline_catlady |
I tried to sign up for that on one of the last cycles, but the wiki is so scary when you look at all of it |
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davidnind |
I think it will be a challenge (both updating the wiki software and curating the content!) |
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davidnind |
you would think with some librarians around the pace we would be reasonably good at organising it ;-) |
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davidnind |
pace = place |
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caroline_catlady |
wikis get out of hand, that's the problem |
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cait |
the problem is that it's often hard to tell wht's otu of date with the more technical stuff |
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davidnind |
yep! |
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caroline_catlady |
it's a tool for anarchists, not librarians ;) |
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cait |
you need to grab one or more of the devs |
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davidnind |
the developer guide gets some attention and is well organised |
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davidnind |
anyway... |
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davidnind |
what do we do with all that? |
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cait |
hm |
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caroline_catlady |
- define what the responsibilities of wiki curator are |
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cait |
i am at the moment not the most reliable person with action items :( |
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cait |
but othewise it hink getting in touch with galen maybe to see what would be needed to update/migrate? |
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caroline_catlady |
- get someone to be wiki curator, and whip gmcharlt to update |
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cait |
not sure he would be the person, my understanding is they mainly just host, but i might be mistaken |
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davidnind |
me neither (with action items) :-( |
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cait |
too bad the summoning failed :) |
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caroline_catlady |
- ask the devs at general meeting or dev meeting to guide us for the installation guides |
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davidnind |
#action Followup on wiki software update - bug 23073 |
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Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=23073 normal, P5 - low, ---, gmc, NEW , wiki.koha-community.org needs updating to a later version |
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davidnind |
#action Request input from community at dev or general meeting on installation guide |
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caroline_catlady |
I will add this to the agenda |
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cait |
thx! |
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davidnind |
#action Add tasks for implementation/getting started sections |
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davidnind |
#action caroline_catlady to add to dev or general meeting |
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caroline_catlady |
Is one of you going to be at the next meeting? I'm giving a training, so I'm not 100% sure I will make it |
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cait |
general? |
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caroline_catlady |
yes general, sorry |
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cait |
#link https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]ting_10_July_2019 |
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cait |
i think i should be |
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davidnind |
I should be at the general one so should be okay |
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davidnind |
Right, the only other thing I think to mention for what's been done so far is caroline_catlady 's work on reviewing the acquisitions chapter |
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caroline_catlady |
I also added to define responsibilities for wiki curator |
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caroline_catlady |
Yes, I started |
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caroline_catlady |
But haven't had time |
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davidnind |
it's a great start! |
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davidnind |
#topic Workflow |
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Topic for #koha is now Workflow (Meeting topic: Documentation IRC meeting 4 July 2019) |
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davidnind |
AndyBoze: do you need any help with figuring out the workflow for editing the manual |
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davidnind |
conscious that I haven't been much help so far! |
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AndyBoze |
davidnind: I don't think so, but I'll let you know if I do. |
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davidnind |
great, happy to do something over video or audio to help you get setup, or walk through making a change if that will help |
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AndyBoze |
Thanks! |
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davidnind |
conscious of the time, so.. |
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davidnind |
#topic Set time for next meeting |
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davidnind |
1st of August or the 8th of August? |
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cait |
i thin 8 of august i am on vacation, but that shouldn't stop you |
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AndyBoze |
1 August works best for me. I have a meeting at this time on the 8th. |
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davidnind |
does it work ok for you caroline_catlady? |
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davidnind |
#info Next meeting 1 August 2019 13:00 UTC |
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davidnind |
can change if we need to, will check with Lucy about the time |
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davidnind |
#endmeeting |
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Topic for #koha is now Welcome to #koha this channel is for discussion of the Koha project and software http://koha-community.org |
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Meeting ended Thu Jul 4 14:09:30 2019 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) |
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Minutes: http://meetings.koha-community[…]-07-04-13.02.html |
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Minutes (text): http://meetings.koha-community[…]9-07-04-13.02.txt |
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davidnind |
Thanks everyone! |
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caroline_catlady |
sorry, a coworker asked me a question |
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davidnind |
no problem - thought you must have been interrupted |
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caroline_catlady |
1st of august I am free I think |
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davidnind |
great! |
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* caroline_catlady |
is off to the minutes to review actions (already forgot) |
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davidnind |
I will be going to sleep, and then looking at it first thing later this morning! |
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caroline_catlady |
ok, let me know when you've created the git guide wiki page |
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caroline_catlady |
good night! |
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caroline_catlady |
does anyone know if increasing the maxRecordsForFacets really affects server resources? |
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cait |
yes |
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caroline_catlady |
a lot of my clients complain that the facets are inaccurate, so I always increase it, but I'm afraid to increase it too much |
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cait |
are you using zebra facets or inbuilt? |
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caroline_catlady |
I think zebra |
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cait |
we find with cusotmers that have a bit more records the zebra ones are accurate but unusable |
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cait |
the performance is just too bad |
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caroline_catlady |
what do you mean unusable? |
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cait |
too slow |
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caroline_catlady |
how do I know if my facets are inbuilt? |
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cait |
the other critical is the one to show more results per page |
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cait |
that also is a huge performance killer |
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cait |
i am not sure if you can see it easily without looking at the koha-conf.xml |
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cait |
i always ask |
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cait |
facets are really THE thing i hope elastic will improve |
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caroline_catlady |
for me it's search relevance |
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cait |
oh |
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cait |
turn off autoquerytruncate |
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cait |
always |
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cait |
it just completely breaks reelvance |
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caroline_catlady |
yeah, it's terrible |
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cait |
since we turn it off, we are quite happy |
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caroline_catlady |
Ok I will not ask future clients if they want it or no, I will turn it off |
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cait |
yeah.. we have reached that point now too |
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cait |
also: queryweightfields |
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cait |
we just had a library where a truncated search using * gave less results than one without truncation.. |
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cait |
and turning that off fixed it, now things seem to make sense |
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caroline_catlady |
weird... |
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caroline_catlady |
so just to go back to maxRecordsForFacets, what is your maximum? |
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caroline_catlady |
I usually increase it to 100 when they complain |
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cait |
i think we usually have50 |
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cait |
i would not use more to 100 |
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cait |
more than |
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caroline_catlady |
ok |
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cait |
but you can also try and compare maybe, a few searhces |
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fridolin |
we also encourage maxRecordsForFacets 100 max |
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mtompset |
Greetings, #koha |
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alex_a_ |
Is there any work, project or discussion about to integrate see from (and may be see also) in elasticsearch ? |
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alex_a_ |
Currently job is done with Zebra (only see from) but not with ES |
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ashimema |
Sure I've seen a few bugs around that area.. mostly zebra, but some dB level and suggestions of es but no concrete work |
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ashimema |
On the train right now, so a little hard to find them to link |
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ashimema |
Or maybe I'm thinking of more generic analytics type sets and things reports |
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mtompset |
Greetings, alex_a_ ashimema |
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alex_a_ |
hello mtompset |
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mtompset |
Anyone have an idea on how to determine the Amazon Unique ID (ASIN) from an ISBN? |
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mtompset |
Specifically an ISBN-13 with no corresponding ISBN-10 (e.g. 979-1090085008) |
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davidnind |
caroline_catlady: initial outline https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]for_documentation |
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caroline_catlady |
davidnind: thx! You didn't have to do it right away, go to sleep! |
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mtompset |
davidnind, ... I would put origin/master or something similar after your git checkout -b example. |
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caroline_catlady |
mtompset: what is the example? Like reseting to origin/master? |
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mtompset |
git checkout -b taigaXXXX |
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mtompset |
That would be better: |
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mtompset |
git checkout -b taigaXXXX origin/master |
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caroline_catlady |
oh? I didn't know |
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caroline_catlady |
what is the difference? |
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wahanui |
i heard the difference was that Koha doesn't support what you wnt in any other place :) |
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mtompset |
by putting the origin/master on the end, it tracks against a particular branch. |
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mtompset |
So, if you are working on older documentation: |
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caroline_catlady |
instead of just floating? |
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mtompset |
git checkout -b taigaXXXX origin/18.011.x |
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mtompset |
If you are working on current documentation: |
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mtompset |
git checkout -b taigaXXXX origin/master |
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caroline_catlady |
we always work on the newest documentation and then cherry pick to older manuals |
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davidnind |
mtompset: thanks, there is always something to learn with git! |
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mtompset |
I'm not familiar with cherry picking. |
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mtompset |
I tend to use: |
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mtompset |
git format-patch -o ~/directory_for_the_job origin/master |
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mtompset |
and then attempt to apply individual patches. |
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mtompset |
git am < ~/directory_for_the_job/0001-first-patch.patch |
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caroline_catlady |
mtompset: it's super easy on gitlab. There is literally a big red button that saus "cherry pick" and you choose where you want to send it |
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mtompset |
or manually make similar changes by visually comparing. |
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mtompset |
Ah. |
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reiveune |
bye |
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tcohen |
hi all |
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tcohen |
mtompset: git cherry-pick <HASH> |
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tcohen |
as easy as that |
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tcohen |
mtompset: have you seen bug 23248? |
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Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=23248 normal, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Needs Signoff , opac-ISBDdetail.pl dies on invalid biblionumber |
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mtompset |
tcohen, Did you see that I reworked things? |
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mtompset |
There were a whole bunch of things that would trigger conflicts. |
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mtompset |
Let's hope this doesn't. :) |
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tcohen |
mtompset: where? |
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tcohen |
(where did you rework things?) |
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mtompset |
sorry, confused ISBD and MARCDetail ones. |
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mtompset |
bug 23248 signed off. |
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huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=23248 normal, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Signed Off , opac-ISBDdetail.pl dies on invalid biblionumber |
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mtompset |
how about bug 21000, tcohen? :) |
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Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=21000 minor, P5 - low, ---, mtompset, Needs Signoff , debian/build-git-snapshot script ignores -D |
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mtompset |
tcohen, how to test bug 22280? |
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Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=22280 normal, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Needs Signoff , The ILL module assumes every status needs a next/previous status |
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mtompset |
because I see your patch, and it eyeballs well, but not sure how to test it. |
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tcohen |
I have only been able to reproduce on 18.11 |
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tcohen |
you need a plugin that defines a disconnected status_graph |
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tcohen |
disconnected in terms of UI interactions yielding status changes |
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tcohen |
this is important when some status changes are to be triggered by external means (API calls, etc) |
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tcohen |
maybe let ashimema review it first |
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tcohen |
ILL is… complicated he |
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tcohen |
my rationale was, that grep is wrong, it is not doing what they are expecting |
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tcohen |
fix it, and see if things break, and they don't |
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mtompset |
prove t/db_dependent/Illrequests.t triggers before and after each grep in Subtest: Backend testing (mocks) test 8,9,10,12 |
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mtompset |
so I think it should be possible to add a test to that file which fails BEFORE the patch, and passes AFTER it. |
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tcohen |
ok! |
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tcohen |
I didn't manage to, in master |
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tcohen |
didn't try that hard, htough |
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mtompset |
bad tcohen bad! ;) |
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tcohen |
had to finish this damn ILL plugin first he |
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mtompset |
but before you jump to fixing that bug, bug 21000 is an easy test. |
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tcohen |
:-D |
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mtompset |
you don't even need to complete a full build, just the first few lines of it. :) |
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tcohen |
mtompset: check the status |
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mtompset |
Thank you. :) |
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tcohen |
I already read teh Getopt::Long docs to validate, and run a build |
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mtompset |
tcohen++ # thanks for the sign off. :) |
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tcohen |
thank you for the fix ;-) |
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tcohen |
mtompset++ |
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mtompset |
the thing that bugs me is the default 16.06 and squeeze-dev. ;) |
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mtompset |
I am tempted to submit a patch to stretch and 19.06 |
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tcohen |
mtompset: talk with mirko about it |
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tcohen |
or ashimema |
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wahanui |
somebody said ashimema was RMaint for 18.05 ? |
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tcohen |
wahanui: forget that |
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wahanui |
tcohen, I didn't have anything matching that |
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mtompset |
ARG! I forgot to watch for Academy tags again. |
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mtompset |
@seen oleonard |
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mtompset: oleonard was last seen in #koha 23 hours, 53 minutes, and 41 seconds ago: <oleonard> See y'all Friday. |
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mtompset |
Oh right... I forgot, July 4. |
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mtompset |
Happy Independence Day, American friends. |
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mtompset |
What are we trying to get Koha pages to validate as HTML5? |
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mtompset |
Not any variation of XHTML or XML? |
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