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mtj |
mwr: a) it makes no difference, as long as you add apache ServerAlias values for all your required FQDNs |
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mtj |
mwr: b) it makes no difference; and yes, the apache resolution will work regardless of the port numbers |
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* mtj |
finds it a little easier to have opac and staff interfaces on different port numbers, for testing |
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paxed |
goddamnit perl. |
| 05:54 |
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paxed |
cait: re bug 22910, there seems to be something that makes the $op variable unavailable to patron_attributes_form on one system i've tried, but not on my test system. |
| 05:54 |
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huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=22910 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, pasi.kallinen, Signed Off , Do not copy unique patron attributes to duplicated patron |
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fridolin |
hi |
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cait |
paxed: sorry, can'treally help today, about to head into work |
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cait |
configuration settings? |
| 06:19 |
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paxed |
or anything, really, and perl irc channels are of no help at this time. |
| 06:22 |
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paxed |
cait: redid the patch |
| 06:22 |
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cait |
found the issue? |
| 06:23 |
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paxed |
no |
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paxed |
worked around it |
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paxed |
the environment i have available where i found it doesn't work is a production one, so can't really debug |
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matts |
hello ! |
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magnuse |
\o/ |
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reiveune |
hello |
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calire |
morning |
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liliputech_asu |
morning :) |
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cait |
davidnind++ |
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cait |
and good morning #koha |
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kattekrab |
Hello! |
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cait |
hi kattekrab :) |
| 08:06 |
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cait |
last one to get home? |
| 08:06 |
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kattekrab |
I think so! Except for those who had holiday adventures planned. |
| 08:08 |
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cait |
@wunder Konstanz |
| 08:08 |
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huginn` |
cait: Error: Failed to load Wunderground API. Check the logs for more information. |
| 08:08 |
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cait |
hm still broken |
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cait |
Has anyone had problems iwth inventory not finding barcodes by chance? |
| 08:57 |
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cait |
My file has only one barcode now (for testing) BUD$00301388 and there is an item with this barcode int he list... but it always remains "Missing (not scanned)" |
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magnuse |
cait: could the dollar sign be problematic? |
| 09:07 |
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cait |
it is for zebra... but: some other barcodes are foudn :( |
| 09:07 |
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cait |
and they are always the same schema |
| 09:08 |
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cait |
i can also not find any additoinal characters like spaces |
| 09:10 |
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cait |
the ohters that are found are marked as 'out of place' |
| 09:10 |
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cait |
which makes sense, since they have different callnumbers |
| 09:10 |
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cait |
so they actually are... but are are on display together |
| 09:14 |
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cait |
hm |
| 09:14 |
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cait |
and even more fun... the date last seen is updated |
| 09:15 |
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cait |
} elsif ( grep /^$barcode$/, @scanned_barcodes ) { |
| 09:15 |
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cait |
i bet it doesn't like the $ |
| 09:15 |
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cait |
the wrong_place is then dealt with later |
| 09:16 |
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cait |
no regex there elsif( !exists $rightplacelist->{ $item->{barcode} } ) { |
| 09:17 |
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cait |
magnuse++ |
| 09:18 |
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cait |
not sure yet how to exactly fix it... i am not even sure what the grep is useful there for? |
| 09:18 |
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cait |
cutting off line breaks? |
| 09:25 |
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magnuse |
which grep? |
| 09:25 |
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magnuse |
ah, was looking at the wrong line |
| 09:26 |
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magnuse |
guess it runs the regexp on all elements in the array? |
| 09:26 |
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magnuse |
perldoc -f grep |
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cait |
it loops through them |
| 09:30 |
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cait |
but it appears we don't only loop once |
| 09:30 |
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cait |
my @scanned_barcodes = map {$_->{barcode}} @scanned_items; |
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magnuse |
does that take a list of items and return a list of corresponding barcodes? |
| 09:33 |
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cait |
i think it's a list of barcodes |
| 09:33 |
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cait |
but the map stuff .... I don't quite understand |
| 09:34 |
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cait |
Joubu: around maybe? |
| 09:34 |
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cait |
i am writing up a bug report |
| 09:36 |
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cait |
bug 2306 |
| 09:36 |
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huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=2306 normal, P3, ---, gmcharlt, CLOSED REMIND, bulkmarcimport.pl adds one too many items |
| 09:36 |
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cait |
bug 23006 |
| 09:37 |
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huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=23006 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Can't use inventory tool with barcodes that contain regex relevant characters ($,...) |
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mtj |
hiya cait, i think perl's quotemeta might fix the problem ^ |
| 09:42 |
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mtj |
https://perldoc.perl.org/functions/quotemeta.html |
| 09:42 |
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mtj |
} elsif ( grep /^\Q$barcode$\E/, @scanned_barcodes ) { |
| 09:43 |
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mtj |
oops, typo.. |
| 09:43 |
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mtj |
} elsif ( grep /^\Q$barcode\E$/, @scanned_barcodes ) { |
| 09:44 |
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cait |
hi mtj :) |
| 09:44 |
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mtj |
some talk about a similar problem...-> https://stackoverflow.com/ques[…]ecessary-to-use-e |
| 09:44 |
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mtj |
if (/\Q$exact_text/) { ... } |
| 09:45 |
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mtj |
hiya :0) |
| 09:46 |
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mtj |
} elsif ( grep /\Q$barcode/, @scanned_barcodes ) { |
| 09:46 |
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cait |
mtj: can you explain what the grep is trying to achieve there? |
| 09:47 |
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cait |
it seems later on we don't use one, which is wh other messages get displayed |
| 09:49 |
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cait |
and why the second without hte E? |
| 09:50 |
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mtj |
"The final \E is not needed if nothing dangerous follows it. I'm not sure this behaviour is documented, but I've seen it many times." |
| 09:51 |
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cait |
maybe using quotemeta would be more readable |
| 09:51 |
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mtj |
... according to someone on S.O (so must be true) |
| 09:52 |
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mtj |
hmm, i cant see the quotemeta page confirm that ^ |
| 09:52 |
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cait |
might be safer to add it? } elsif ( grep /^\Q$barcode\E$/, @scanned_barcodes ) { |
| 09:52 |
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mtj |
okay.. lets not remove the ..\E |
| 09:52 |
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mtj |
agreed |
| 09:53 |
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cait |
I have no time to implement and test it right now :( |
| 09:53 |
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cait |
but i have updated the bug, hope to give it a try later |
| 09:55 |
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mtj |
i think the grep line, tests for a matching $barcode in the array of @scanned_items barcodes |
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mtj |
..perl determines a match from grep is true |
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* mtj |
hasnt time to test right now too |
| 10:11 |
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cait |
mtj++ thx for thelp :) |
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mtj |
np, anytime |
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oleonard |
Hi #koha |
| 11:38 |
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clrh |
Hi, I am discovering vote feature on BZ Oo probably late but it is great :)= |
| 11:39 |
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clrh |
I do not understand when I get back my votes. I can "change them" anytime nevermind if there are on closed bz ? |
| 11:40 |
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oleonard |
Do the votes... do anything? |
| 11:40 |
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clrh |
prioritising bz if someone have to choose between two oleonard ? |
| 11:40 |
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clrh |
Joubu: seems to use its |
| 11:43 |
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oleonard |
https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]mat=advanced&v1=1 |
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tcohen |
morning |
| 11:48 |
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* cait |
waves |
| 11:48 |
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tcohen |
hi cait oleonard clrh |
| 11:48 |
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cait |
clrh: we activated the feature, but i think noone really checks the votes right now :( |
| 11:54 |
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clrh |
cait: so it is apparently new |
| 11:54 |
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clrh |
? |
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clrh |
I dont find a way to add a column with "votes" to order by them for example. I tought it was possible :/ |
| 12:04 |
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clrh |
change columnes.... pffffffff |
| 12:04 |
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wahanui |
clrh: that doesn't look right |
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oleonard |
clrh: It's possible -- That's what I did in the link I pasted above |
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clrh |
thanks oleonard |
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cait |
clrh: no, i thas been active for a looonng time |
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clrh |
okay ;) |
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cait |
we have never really advertised it or done something with it (which we should probably?) |
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caroline_catlady |
good morning! |
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oleonard |
Hi caroline_catlady |
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cait |
good morning :) |
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magnuse |
hiya caroline_catlady |
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wizzyrea |
hi |
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oleonard |
Hi wizzyrea |
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caroline_catlady |
which field is used for the series facet in marc21? 490 or 830? |
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reiveune |
bye |
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cait |
marcelr++ thank you |
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mwr |
mtj: Thank you from yesterday. |
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koha-jenkins |
Project Koha_17.11_D8 build #158: SUCCESS in 33 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]oha_17.11_D8/158/ |
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caroline_catlady |
in circ rules, a rule for a specific library/all user categories should take precedence over a rule for all libraries/same user category, no? |
| 15:49 |
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kidclamp |
yes |
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caroline_catlady |
Does this apply to holds as well? |
| 15:51 |
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cait |
holiday here tomorrow :) bye all :) |
| 15:51 |
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caroline_catlady |
Specifically, I have a rule for a specific library/all user categories that says users can have 3 holds per record. But the rule for all libraries/same user category says users can only place one hold per record. It is the second that is applied |
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caroline_catlady |
I can't place more than one hold per record |
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kidclamp |
are any of the holds specific rules set? in the lower sections? |
| 15:53 |
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caroline_catlady |
For all libraries, the default checkout, hold and return policy says 50, 50, From any library, anylibrary, item returns home (other than the 50's, I think it's what's there by default |
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caroline_catlady |
) |
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kidclamp |
what are circcontrl and reservescontrolbranch set to? |
| 15:54 |
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caroline_catlady |
item's library |
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kidclamp |
both of them? |
| 15:54 |
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caroline_catlady |
yes |
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caroline_catlady |
item's home library and library the item is from |
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kidclamp |
holds per record is set to 3 and 1 respectively, what about holds allowed and maxreserves? |
| 15:56 |
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kidclamp |
heh, sorry caroline_catlady , just checking all the things |
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caroline_catlady |
no problem |
| 15:56 |
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kidclamp |
also, i just got home, so could be spouting nonsense |
| 15:56 |
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caroline_catlady |
maxreserves : 50 |
| 15:58 |
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caroline_catlady |
holds allowed for specific library 10 (3 per record); and holds allowed for all libraries/same patron category 2 (1 per record) |
| 15:58 |
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kidclamp |
title or item level holds? |
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kidclamp |
same setup I can place 3 record level holds |
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caroline_catlady |
item level holds |
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caroline_catlady |
it is on a record that has items from several libraries |
| 15:59 |
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kidclamp |
but multipel form the matchign branch? |
| 16:00 |
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caroline_catlady |
yes |
| 16:00 |
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caroline_catlady |
the client is on 18.05, but I tried it on master as well |
| 16:00 |
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caroline_catlady |
let me try again |
| 16:00 |
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kidclamp |
I cannot recreate |
| 16:01 |
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kidclamp |
https://snag.gy/BkrGzW.jpg |
| 16:02 |
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caroline_catlady |
Mine is https://snag.gy/YBSPIs.jpg |
| 16:05 |
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caroline_catlady |
^ that is on master |
| 16:05 |
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caroline_catlady |
on the client's db in 18.05 https://snag.gy/bQ6I8d.jpg |
| 16:09 |
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kidclamp |
select branchcode,categorycode,holds_per_record, holds_per_day,reservesallowed FROM issuingrules; |
| 16:09 |
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kidclamp |
caroline_catlady: ^ |
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caroline_catlady |
just a minute rice |
| 16:09 |
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* kidclamp |
likes my new nickname "rice" |
| 16:11 |
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caroline_catlady |
this is from the client's db (no holds per day) for all libraries | * | DS | 1 | 1 | |
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caroline_catlady |
eesh |
| 16:11 |
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caroline_catlady |
let me paste that elsewhere |
| 16:11 |
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kidclamp |
paste? |
| 16:11 |
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kidclamp |
oh, wahanui |
| 16:11 |
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wahanui |
kidclamp: what? |
| 16:11 |
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kidclamp |
paste.koha-community.org |
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kidclamp |
paste is paste.koha-community.org |
| 16:12 |
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kidclamp |
wahanui: paste is paste.koha-community.org |
| 16:12 |
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wahanui |
i already had it that way, kidclamp. |
| 16:12 |
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kidclamp |
paste? |
| 16:12 |
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wahanui |
paste is paste.koha-community.org |
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pastebot |
"caroline_catlady" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "+------------+--------------+-" (8 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/2675 |
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caroline_catlady |
I snipped it because it was276 rows |
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caroline_catlady |
I have to go, but I will try again this afternoon |
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kidclamp |
kk, sorry, i don't see the issue |
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* oleonard |
biab |
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kidclamp |
meeting? |
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wahanui |
meeting is over :) |
| 18:59 |
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cait |
meeting |
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kidclamp |
#startmeeting Development IRC meeting 29 May 2019 |
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huginn` |
Meeting started Wed May 29 19:00:43 2019 UTC. The chair is kidclamp. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. |
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huginn` |
Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. |
| 19:00 |
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Topic for #koha is now (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting 29 May 2019) |
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huginn` |
The meeting name has been set to 'development_irc_meeting_29_may_2019' |
| 19:00 |
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kidclamp |
#topic Introductions |
| 19:00 |
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Topic for #koha is now Introductions (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting 29 May 2019) |
| 19:01 |
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kidclamp |
#info NIck Clemens, ByWaterSolutions |
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cait |
#info Katrin Fischer, BSZ, Germany |
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bag |
#info Brendan Gallagher, ByWater |
| 19:01 |
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greenjimll |
|#info Jon Knight, Loughborough Uni, UK |
| 19:01 |
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kidclamp |
#link https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]eting_29_May_2019 meeting agenda |
| 19:02 |
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cait |
hm |
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cait |
we should have the vote for naming the rleases after muppets today |
| 19:02 |
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davidnind |
#info David Nind, Wellington, New Zealand |
| 19:03 |
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kidclamp |
heh, taking advatange of the attendence cait :-) |
| 19:03 |
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davidnind |
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Muppets |
| 19:03 |
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kidclamp |
well, 5 of us, this can be short :-) |
| 19:03 |
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kidclamp |
#topci Announcements |
| 19:03 |
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bag |
+1 |
| 19:03 |
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cait |
kidclamp: typo :) |
| 19:03 |
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kidclamp |
#topic Announcements |
| 19:03 |
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Topic for #koha is now Announcements (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting 29 May 2019) |
| 19:03 |
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kidclamp |
I announce that I just got home today, so expect many typos |
| 19:04 |
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bag |
welcome home |
| 19:04 |
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cait |
welcome back |
| 19:04 |
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kidclamp |
the jetlag is real |
| 19:04 |
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kidclamp |
thanks! |
| 19:04 |
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cait |
no announcements from me |
| 19:04 |
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kidclamp |
anyone else have announcements? |
| 19:05 |
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bag |
nada |
| 19:05 |
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greenjimll |
Nope |
| 19:05 |
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cait |
davidnind? :) |
| 19:05 |
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kidclamp |
#topic Update from the Release manager |
| 19:05 |
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Topic for #koha is now Update from the Release manager (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting 29 May 2019) |
| 19:06 |
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davidnind |
Swedish Koha User Group meeting in October https://koha.se/en/koha-i-sver[…]-17-oktober-2019/ |
| 19:06 |
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bag |
RM has jetlag |
| 19:06 |
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kidclamp |
I am prepping for release, thank you to many of you for hands on the release notes |
| 19:06 |
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kidclamp |
davidnind++ |
| 19:06 |
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kidclamp |
cait++ |
| 19:06 |
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kidclamp |
ashimema++ |
| 19:06 |
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kidclamp |
koha++ |
| 19:06 |
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kidclamp |
joubu++ |
| 19:06 |
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bag |
kidclamp++ |
| 19:07 |
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kidclamp |
will do final pushing and reviews tonight and shepherd things out tomorrow |
| 19:07 |
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cait |
kidclamp: there are quite a few notes for you to 'remove' |
| 19:07 |
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kidclamp |
:-) |
| 19:07 |
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cait |
i can go through them tomorrow and standardize to RMNOTE like martin started if you want |
| 19:07 |
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kidclamp |
yes, joubu has a helper for generating notes too |
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kidclamp |
I think next release we can find a way to automate removing unwanted notes |
| 19:07 |
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cait |
hm? |
| 19:07 |
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kidclamp |
anywho, just trying to get things done :-) |
| 19:08 |
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cait |
... and please people stop pushing follow-ups to already released bugs |
| 19:08 |
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kidclamp |
:-) |
| 19:08 |
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kidclamp |
#info release coming along, thanks to all for hands on releasenotes |
| 19:08 |
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cait |
#info Don't push follow-ups with bug numbers that have already been released! |
| 19:08 |
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kidclamp |
heh |
| 19:08 |
|
kidclamp |
#topic Updates from the Release Maintainers |
| 19:08 |
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Topic for #koha is now Updates from the Release Maintainers (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting 29 May 2019) |
| 19:09 |
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cait |
um |
| 19:09 |
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cait |
i had a concern |
| 19:09 |
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kidclamp |
oh, osrry |
| 19:09 |
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cait |
little too fast |
| 19:09 |
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cait |
Mana |
| 19:09 |
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kidclamp |
#chari cait |
| 19:09 |
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cait |
i can do that in qa |
| 19:09 |
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kidclamp |
#chair cait |
| 19:09 |
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huginn` |
Current chairs: cait kidclamp |
| 19:09 |
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cait |
let's to maints and i say my thing in QA |
| 19:09 |
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kidclamp |
lukeG: around? |
| 19:10 |
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kidclamp |
#maints will work on their releases too I am sure :-) |
| 19:10 |
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cait |
#info rmaints working on their releases |
| 19:11 |
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kidclamp |
moving on? |
| 19:11 |
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cait |
yep |
| 19:12 |
|
kidclamp |
#topic Updates from the QA team |
| 19:12 |
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Topic for #koha is now Updates from the QA team (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting 29 May 2019) |
| 19:12 |
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cait |
I am concerned about the bugs left open for Mana |
| 19:12 |
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cait |
we will be advertising this as a new feature in the release notes and people were also hyped up at Kohacon |
| 19:12 |
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cait |
but |
| 19:12 |
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cait |
bug 22915 |
| 19:12 |
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huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=22915 blocker, P1 - high, 19.05, koha-bugs, NEW , Cannot subscribe to Mana-KB |
| 19:12 |
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cait |
bug 22210 |
| 19:12 |
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huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=22210 major, P5 - low, ---, alex.arnaud, Signed Off , Allow organisations to sign up to Mana KB (don't only ask for firstname lastname) |
| 19:13 |
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cait |
i believe alex_a is still on vacation as paul_p said last week |
| 19:13 |
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cait |
I have no idea how we can fix this |
| 19:13 |
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cait |
Mana has been pushed early, but the bugs have not been taken care of :( |
| 19:14 |
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kidclamp |
can other recreate registration problems? |
| 19:14 |
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cait |
it certainly needs more testing, but i don't know how |
| 19:15 |
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cait |
it looks like there are several mana domains |
| 19:15 |
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tcohen |
#info Tomas Cohen Arazi, Theke Solutions |
| 19:15 |
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cait |
production, test and also ui.mana-kb |
| 19:15 |
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cait |
i am confused |
| 19:15 |
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cait |
also: http://mana.koha-community.org/ |
| 19:16 |
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greenjimll |
Is it something that could be billed as a "first cut preview release"? |
| 19:16 |
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bag |
@seen paul_p |
| 19:16 |
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huginn` |
bag: paul_p was last seen in #koha 6 weeks, 5 days, 9 hours, 20 minutes, and 13 seconds ago: <paul_p> hi cait |
| 19:16 |
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cait |
bug 22913 |
| 19:16 |
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huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=22913 minor, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , https://mana-kb.koha-community.org/ should not return a 404 error |
| 19:16 |
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cait |
sorry, wrong url above |
| 19:16 |
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cait |
greenjimll: i am more leaning to deactivating it |
| 19:17 |
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cait |
and releasing it with .01 at this point |
| 19:17 |
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cait |
unless we can fix the sign up |
| 19:17 |
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cait |
but it leaves the argument about what data we shoudl ask for at sign-up - not sure if it matters if we change that later |
| 19:17 |
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cait |
right now it's surname lastname |
| 19:17 |
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kidclamp |
by deactiviating you mean disabling the advertising of the feature? |
| 19:18 |
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cait |
shoudl be change to just be name |
| 19:18 |
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cait |
i dunno |
| 19:18 |
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cait |
what do people think? |
| 19:18 |
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cait |
I can try to test tomorrow... but i already got stuck |
| 19:18 |
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greenjimll |
O |
| 19:18 |
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greenjimll |
I |
| 19:18 |
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greenjimll |
Oops |
| 19:18 |
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kidclamp |
I think if we can verify if registration works or not we can decide - if one can register I think beta is ok and we can fix the name part later |
| 19:18 |
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cait |
ok |
| 19:19 |
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greenjimll |
I'd say that the last name/first name is less of an issue than the failures to sign up/404s |
| 19:19 |
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kidclamp |
if we really can't register at all I would ocnsider disabling the message |
| 19:19 |
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cait |
greenjimll: agreed, if we can change it later easily |
| 19:19 |
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cait |
shoudl be possible i guess |
| 19:19 |
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cait |
i just really wished we coudl release this more polished |
| 19:19 |
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davidnind |
if something is not ready, what do we normally do? |
| 19:19 |
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cait |
davidnind: not push it ;) |
| 19:20 |
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tcohen |
disable by default, and maybe mark it EXPERIMENTAL on the sysprefs |
| 19:20 |
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tcohen |
(the on/off switch description) |
| 19:20 |
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cait |
at least generally, tcohen's suggestion is good too |
| 19:20 |
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greenjimll |
I assume it did work at some point to get signed off/QAed/pushed? |
| 19:21 |
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cait |
it's pretty 'in the face' right now |
| 19:21 |
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kidclamp |
yes, the feature was tested and was successful |
| 19:21 |
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cait |
asking you to decide to turn it on/off |
| 19:21 |
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greenjimll |
So its a problem in the service its talking to rather than the Koha codebase? |
| 19:22 |
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cait |
i think of the sign-off issue that might be part of the issuse |
| 19:22 |
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cait |
that we cannot fix if something has to be fixed on the mana server |
| 19:23 |
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greenjimll |
But similarly if its effectively a "third party" service (the Mana server in this case) that's the issue, that could happen just as easily after release as before. |
| 19:24 |
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kidclamp |
I think mana is very new, we expect some growing pains, but I would still ratehr have it than not |
| 19:24 |
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kidclamp |
I am going to test registration today and would ask that others do as well |
| 19:24 |
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cait |
it woudl not look to pull out now |
| 19:24 |
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cait |
not look good |
| 19:24 |
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kidclamp |
bug 17047 |
| 19:24 |
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cait |
so fixing is much preferred |
| 19:24 |
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huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=17047 new feature, P5 - low, ---, alex.arnaud, RESOLVED FIXED, Mana Knowledge Base : Data sharing |
| 19:25 |
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kidclamp |
instructions are there on setup |
| 19:25 |
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cait |
according to the sign-up bug the registration on test might not work as the changes have been applied there |
| 19:25 |
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cait |
or should only work with the patch applied |
| 19:26 |
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cait |
just noting for people testing |
| 19:26 |
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cait |
so probably need to test master with production |
| 19:27 |
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cait |
@action all hands on deck testing Mana registration please |
| 19:27 |
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huginn` |
cait: I suck |
| 19:27 |
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cait |
#info see bugs 22915 and bug 22210 |
| 19:27 |
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huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=22210 major, P5 - low, ---, alex.arnaud, Signed Off , Allow organisations to sign up to Mana KB (don't only ask for firstname lastname) |
| 19:27 |
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cait |
#action all hands on deck testing Mana registration please |
| 19:28 |
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cait |
kidclamp: otherwise let me know if you need something - i will be around tomorrow |
| 19:28 |
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kidclamp |
will do |
| 19:28 |
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bag |
I’ll ping you kidclamp if I have any problems with it |
| 19:28 |
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cait |
maybe ping for success too :) |
| 19:28 |
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kidclamp |
thanks bag! |
| 19:29 |
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cait |
i'd be relieved |
| 19:29 |
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bag |
ok cait :) |
| 19:29 |
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kidclamp |
moving on, fingers crossed, hopefully :-) |
| 19:29 |
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cait |
:) |
| 19:29 |
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kidclamp |
anything else for QA cait? |
| 19:30 |
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tcohen |
I will be available for QA |
| 19:30 |
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tcohen |
let me know |
| 19:30 |
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tcohen |
or bugfixes, cait |
| 19:30 |
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cait |
tcohen: anything sip2 and rest api in the queue please ;) |
| 19:31 |
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tcohen |
(y) |
| 19:31 |
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cait |
that doesn't trnaslate into a picture for me |
| 19:32 |
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kidclamp |
:+1 |
| 19:32 |
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bag |
+1 |
| 19:32 |
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tcohen |
thumbs up |
| 19:32 |
|
kidclamp |
#topic General development discussion (trends, ideas, ...) |
| 19:32 |
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Topic for #koha is now General development discussion (trends, ideas, ...) (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting 29 May 2019) |
| 19:32 |
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kidclamp |
Anyone? |
| 19:32 |
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cait |
ah |
| 19:32 |
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cait |
i got one |
| 19:33 |
|
cait |
How to add indexes for authorities |
| 19:33 |
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cait |
i am trying and i failed |
| 19:33 |
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cait |
ended up with bug 23000 |
| 19:33 |
|
huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=23000 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Running xsltproc for authority index definitions adds unwanted changes |
| 19:33 |
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cait |
and bug 23001 |
| 19:33 |
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huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=23001 major, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , When the whole authority record is searched, search always returns all records |
| 19:33 |
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cait |
but still didn't get it working... and the second is kinda bad |
| 19:33 |
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cait |
if it finds something = the results are right, i just checked |
| 19:33 |
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cait |
but if it finds noting, it just gives you 'all' |
| 19:34 |
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cait |
there has been someone desperate about this on the mailing list, that's why I tried |
| 19:35 |
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cait |
getting some help there would be nice :) |
| 19:35 |
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kidclamp |
yeah, those are bad |
| 19:36 |
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tcohen |
we should really have 21073 on 19.05 already |
| 19:36 |
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cait |
hm i can't replicatet the second right now... same installation as yesterday |
| 19:36 |
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cait |
someone else taking a look even more appreciated |
| 19:36 |
|
cait |
bug 21073 |
| 19:36 |
|
huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=21073 enhancement, P5 - low, 19.05, kyle, Signed Off , Improve plugin performance |
| 19:37 |
|
cait |
quiet |
| 19:37 |
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cait |
i am not sure if i can test this |
| 19:37 |
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tcohen |
the main problem is it was tested by two Theke members... |
| 19:38 |
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cait |
i can run the basic test |
| 19:38 |
|
cait |
but can't do performance testing |
| 19:39 |
|
cait |
so i can offer a sign-off maybe? |
| 19:39 |
|
cait |
@random |
| 19:39 |
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huginn` |
cait: Error: The command "random" is available in the Dict, Factoids, and Quote plugins. Please specify the plugin whose command you wish to call by using its name as a command before "random". |
| 19:40 |
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cait |
so quiet... had to check if I am still here :) |
| 19:40 |
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tcohen |
cait: no need to test performance actually |
| 19:41 |
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greenjimll |
Does the performance improvement appear on a small test/dev instance, or is it only noticeable on large systems? |
| 19:41 |
|
davidnind |
Is the title wrong then? Looks like general improvement to plugins, rather than performance (not that I know anything about plugins). |
| 19:42 |
|
davidnind |
After a five second scan of the bug :) |
| 19:42 |
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tcohen |
right now, any place that has hooks for plugins |
| 19:42 |
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greenjimll |
cait: we're all reading the bugzilla report which is why we're quiet. |
| 19:42 |
|
tcohen |
triggers a search for existing plugins |
| 19:43 |
|
tcohen |
on the filesystem |
| 19:43 |
|
tcohen |
looking for those that implement X methods |
| 19:43 |
|
tcohen |
this bug makes plugins tell Koha what methods they implement |
| 19:43 |
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tcohen |
and they are stored on the DB |
| 19:43 |
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tcohen |
so a simple SQL query on MySQL |
| 19:43 |
|
tcohen |
instead of traversing the filesystem and loading the plugins, just in case |
| 19:44 |
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cait |
what will happen if a plugin doesn't do it? |
| 19:44 |
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greenjimll |
So something that will be more noticeable performance improvement on a large system? |
| 19:44 |
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cait |
(backwards compatibility) |
| 19:44 |
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tcohen |
this bug implements it so the plugin does nothing |
| 19:44 |
|
tcohen |
there's some introspection on what method the plugin has |
| 19:44 |
|
tcohen |
and they get populated on the DB |
| 19:44 |
|
tcohen |
next step is to streamline this |
| 19:44 |
|
cait |
#chair davidnind |
| 19:44 |
|
huginn` |
Current chairs: cait davidnind kidclamp |
| 19:44 |
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kidclamp |
I have to run all, but I wil be back later and early tomorrow to finish up |
| 19:45 |
|
kidclamp |
#chair bag |
| 19:45 |
|
huginn` |
Current chairs: bag cait davidnind kidclamp |
| 19:45 |
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cait |
so it will work with current plugins still |
| 19:45 |
|
tcohen |
and have plugins 'tell' what they are capable of |
| 19:45 |
|
tcohen |
yes |
| 19:45 |
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cait |
but be better if they do it |
| 19:45 |
|
cait |
cool |
| 19:45 |
|
tcohen |
when we make that transition after this bug |
| 19:45 |
|
tcohen |
we will add an alert on about.pl |
| 19:45 |
|
tcohen |
to tell users to ask plugin authors to move to the 'new style' |
| 19:45 |
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bag |
cait I just had no problems with registering for mana |
| 19:45 |
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tcohen |
that's at least the plan |
| 19:45 |
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cait |
bag: really glad to hear |
| 19:46 |
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cait |
can you comment on the bug please? |
| 19:46 |
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cait |
tcohen: sounds good |
| 19:46 |
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bag |
bug 17047 ? |
| 19:46 |
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huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=17047 new feature, P5 - low, ---, alex.arnaud, RESOLVED FIXED, Mana Knowledge Base : Data sharing |
| 19:46 |
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cait |
bug 22915 |
| 19:46 |
|
huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=22915 blocker, P1 - high, 19.05, koha-bugs, NEW , Cannot subscribe to Mana-KB |
| 19:46 |
|
bag |
or the other patches cait |
| 19:46 |
|
bag |
thanks |
| 19:47 |
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cait |
ok |
| 19:47 |
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cait |
moving on? |
| 19:47 |
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cait |
#topic Review of coding guidelines |
| 19:47 |
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Topic for #koha is now Review of coding guidelines (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting 29 May 2019) |
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| 19:48 |
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davidnind |
tcohen++ Improvements to koha-testing-docker: can now run if you don't have an internet connection; command line aliases documentation makes it easier to use, for example ku = docker-compose -p koha up; fix git so alias |
| 19:48 |
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davidnind |
Link https://gitlab.com/koha-commun[…]ng-docker#aliases |
| 19:48 |
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cait |
#info Improvements to koha-testing-docker: can now run if you don't have an internet connection; command line aliases documentation makes it easier to use, for example ku = docker-compose -p koha up; fix git so alias |
| 19:48 |
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cait |
tcohen++ |
| 19:49 |
|
cait |
we have nothing on the agenda for this topic |
| 19:49 |
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cait |
will move on |
| 19:49 |
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cait |
#topic Set time of next meeting |
| 19:49 |
|
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Topic for #koha is now Set time of next meeting (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting 29 May 2019) |
| 19:49 |
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cait |
can someone help me out here? |
| 19:50 |
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greenjimll |
Will the next one be four weeks from today? |
| 19:50 |
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cait |
2 weeks? |
| 19:50 |
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greenjimll |
14:00 UTC on 12th June 2019? |
| 19:50 |
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cait |
sounds good |
| 19:51 |
|
cait |
#info Next meeting: 12 June 2019, 14 UTC |
| 19:51 |
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cait |
hope i got it right |
| 19:51 |
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cait |
thx all for attending (and bearing with grumpy me) |
| 19:51 |
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davidnind |
Looks good to me! |
| 19:51 |
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cait |
#endmeeting |
| 19:51 |
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Topic for #koha is now Welcome to #koha this channel is for discussion of the Koha project and software http://koha-community.org |
| 19:51 |
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huginn` |
Meeting ended Wed May 29 19:51:26 2019 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) |
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huginn` |
Minutes: http://meetings.koha-community[…]-05-29-19.00.html |
| 19:51 |
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huginn` |
Minutes (text): http://meetings.koha-community[…]9-05-29-19.00.txt |
| 19:51 |
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huginn` |
Log: http://meetings.koha-community[…]29-19.00.log.html |
| 19:51 |
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tcohen |
cait++ |
| 19:51 |
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tcohen |
kidclamp |
| 19:51 |
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davidnind |
cait++ |
| 19:51 |
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wahanui |
kidclamp is reply i guess kidclamp is the first RM not to be bribed |
| 19:51 |
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greenjimll |
Thanks folks. |
| 19:51 |
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tcohen |
kidclamp++ |
| 19:51 |
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cait |
kidclamp++ |
| 19:51 |
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cait |
last days and counting I guess :) |
| 19:54 |
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ashimema |
Ah, totally missed that one |
| 19:54 |
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ashimema |
Oops |
| 19:54 |
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tcohen |
don't worry: you were volunteered, ashimema |
| 19:56 |
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cait |
ashimema: I was moaning about Mana and your blocker bug for you |
| 19:56 |
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cait |
;) |
| 19:56 |
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cait |
but it seems to work for other snow, which is a good start |
| 19:57 |
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davidnind |
caroline_catlady: https://twitter.com/BioDivLibr[…]33787741626482689 |
| 19:57 |
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ashimema |
Lol |
| 19:57 |
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* ashimema |
reads back.. assume we're still in for release tomorrow if I remember correctly |
| 19:57 |
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cait |
... and I think there might not be enough muppets |
| 19:57 |
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bag |
cait++ |
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cait |
good morning kathryn :) |
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kathryn |
hello cait :) I hope you enjoyed Dublin! |
| 19:59 |
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cait |
it was grand :) |
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kathryn |
as they say ;) |
| 20:00 |
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cait |
yep, i brushed up my vocabulary a bit :) |
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bag |
heya kathryn |
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kathryn |
hey bag :) |
| 20:01 |
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cait |
bag++ # finally fixing his IRC :) |
| 20:01 |
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kathryn |
I'm super duper looking forward to next year |
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cait |
:) |
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cait |
you will set up teleporters... I heard? |
| 20:05 |
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kathryn |
oh jeez I gotta reign that guy in... |
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cait |
:P |
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kathryn |
hehe! |
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rangi |
morning |
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cait |
morning rangi |
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cait |
sorry, I told kathryn you promised us teleporter |
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cait |
s |
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rangi |
heh |
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bag |
morning rangi |
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Joubu |
hi #koha |
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cait |
hi Joubu :) |
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Joubu |
cait, kidclamp: about the bug in the release notes: https://gitlab.com/koha-commun[…]/merge_requests/8 |
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cait |
i think it only fixes one case |
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cait |
but harder to catch those |
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cait |
:) |
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cait |
coudl you also auto-remove bugs that have a certain keyword in the release notes field? |
| 21:18 |
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cait |
we have quite some this time |
| 21:18 |
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Joubu |
we should not followup on already released bug # |
| 21:19 |
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cait |
yep |
| 21:19 |
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Joubu |
so it should catch all the valid cases :) |
| 21:19 |
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cait |
i said earlier don't push, but this also applies to lazy devs |
| 21:19 |
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cait |
put your stuff on new bugs :) |
| 21:19 |
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Joubu |
there are ~30 bugs that are part of the release notes that should not |
| 21:21 |
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cait |
more than i counted |
| 21:21 |
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cait |
are those the ones your patch fixes? |
| 21:21 |
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cait |
who can merge? |
| 21:23 |
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Joubu |
it will prevent the script to pick bug number from outside the commit title (i.e. not commit body) |
| 21:23 |
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Joubu |
I set ashimema and kidclamp as approvers, they can approve and merge |
| 21:23 |
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cait |
ok |
| 21:23 |
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cait |
what happens if you put a second bug number in subject? does it only use the one form the beginning? |
| 21:26 |
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cait |
Joubu++ |
| 21:27 |
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Joubu |
it will only pick ^bug \d+ so the first one |
| 21:28 |
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cait |
:) |
| 21:28 |
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cait |
thought of everything |
| 22:02 |
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caroline_catlady |
good night! |
| 22:30 |
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kidclamp |
Ashimema tested and said it looked good, I will try early tomorrow joubu |
