Time  Nick             Message
00:08 mtj              mwr: a) it makes no difference, as long as you add apache ServerAlias values for all your required FQDNs
00:10 mtj              mwr: b) it makes no difference; and yes, the apache resolution will work regardless of the port numbers
00:13 * mtj            finds it a little easier to have opac and staff interfaces on different port numbers, for testing
05:53 paxed            goddamnit perl.
05:54 paxed            cait: re bug 22910, there seems to be something that makes the $op variable unavailable to patron_attributes_form on one system i've tried, but not on my test system.
05:54 huginn`          Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=22910 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, pasi.kallinen, Signed Off , Do not copy unique patron attributes to duplicated patron
06:08 fridolin         hi
06:16 cait             paxed: sorry, can'treally help today, about to head into work
06:17 cait             configuration settings?
06:19 paxed            or anything, really, and perl irc channels are of no help at this time.
06:22 paxed            cait: redid the patch
06:22 cait             found the issue?
06:23 paxed            no
06:23 paxed            worked around it
06:23 paxed            the environment i have available where i found it doesn't work is a production one, so can't really debug
06:34 matts            hello !
06:39 magnuse          \o/
06:41 reiveune         hello
06:49 calire           morning
07:21 liliputech_asu   morning :)
07:39 cait             davidnind++
07:40 cait             and good morning #koha
08:04 kattekrab        Hello!
08:06 cait             hi kattekrab :)
08:06 cait             last one to get home?
08:06 kattekrab        I think so!  Except for those who had holiday adventures planned.
08:08 cait             @wunder Konstanz
08:08 huginn`          cait: Error: Failed to load Wunderground API. Check the logs for more information.
08:08 cait             hm still broken
08:57 cait             Has anyone had problems iwth inventory not finding barcodes by chance?
08:57 cait             My file has only one barcode now (for testing) BUD$00301388 and there is an item with this barcode int he list... but it always remains "Missing (not scanned)"
09:06 magnuse          cait: could the dollar sign be problematic?
09:07 cait             it is for zebra... but: some other barcodes are foudn :(
09:07 cait             and they are always the same schema
09:08 cait             i can also not find any additoinal characters like spaces
09:10 cait             the ohters that are found are marked as 'out of place'
09:10 cait             which makes sense, since they have different callnumbers
09:10 cait             so they actually are... but are are on display together
09:14 cait             hm
09:14 cait             and even more fun... the date last seen is updated
09:15 cait             } elsif ( grep /^$barcode$/, @scanned_barcodes ) {
09:15 cait             i bet it doesn't like the $
09:15 cait             the wrong_place is then dealt with later
09:16 cait             no regex there elsif( !exists $rightplacelist->{ $item->{barcode} } ) {
09:17 cait             magnuse++
09:18 cait             not sure yet how to exactly fix it... i am not even sure what the grep is useful there for?
09:18 cait             cutting off line breaks?
09:25 magnuse          which grep?
09:25 magnuse          ah, was looking at the wrong line
09:26 magnuse          guess it runs the regexp on all elements in the array?
09:26 magnuse          perldoc -f grep
09:30 cait             it loops through them
09:30 cait             but it appears we don't only loop once
09:30 cait             my @scanned_barcodes = map {$_->{barcode}} @scanned_items;
09:33 magnuse          does that take a list of items and return a list of corresponding barcodes?
09:33 cait             i think it's a list of barcodes
09:33 cait             but the map stuff .... I don't quite understand
09:34 cait             Joubu: around maybe?
09:34 cait             i am writing up a bug report
09:34 cait             [off] of course we have a hundred libraries almost with $ in their barcodes
09:36 cait             bug 2306
09:36 huginn`          Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=2306 normal, P3, ---, gmcharlt, CLOSED REMIND, bulkmarcimport.pl adds one too many items
09:36 cait             bug 23006
09:37 huginn`          Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=23006 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Can't use inventory tool with barcodes that contain regex relevant characters ($,...)
09:42 mtj              hiya cait, i think perl's quotemeta might fix the problem ^
09:42 mtj              https://perldoc.perl.org/functions/quotemeta.html
09:42 mtj              } elsif ( grep /^\Q$barcode$\E/, @scanned_barcodes ) {
09:43 mtj              oops, typo..
09:43 mtj              } elsif ( grep /^\Q$barcode\E$/, @scanned_barcodes ) {
09:44 cait             hi mtj :)
09:44 mtj              some talk about a similar problem...->  https://stackoverflow.com/questions/27796987/what-is-q-in-perl-is-it-always-necessary-to-use-e
09:44 mtj              if (/\Q$exact_text/) { ... }
09:45 mtj              hiya :0)
09:46 mtj              } elsif ( grep /\Q$barcode/, @scanned_barcodes ) {
09:46 cait             mtj: can you explain what the grep is trying to achieve there?
09:47 cait             it seems later on we don't use one, which is wh other messages get displayed
09:49 cait             and why the second without hte E?
09:50 mtj              "The final \E is not needed if nothing dangerous follows it. I'm not sure this behaviour is documented, but I've seen it many times."
09:51 cait             maybe using quotemeta would be more readable
09:51 mtj              ... according to someone on S.O (so must be true)
09:52 mtj              hmm, i cant see the quotemeta page confirm that ^
09:52 cait             might be safer to add it? } elsif ( grep /^\Q$barcode\E$/, @scanned_barcodes ) {
09:52 mtj              okay.. lets not remove the ..\E
09:52 mtj              agreed
09:53 cait             I have no time to implement and test it right now :(
09:53 cait             but i have updated the bug, hope to give it a try later
09:55 mtj              i think the grep line, tests for a matching $barcode in the array of  @scanned_items  barcodes
09:57 mtj              ..perl determines a match from grep is true
10:05 * mtj            hasnt time to test right now too
10:11 cait             mtj++ thx for thelp :)
10:19 mtj              np, anytime
11:33 oleonard         Hi #koha
11:38 clrh             Hi, I am discovering vote feature on BZ Oo probably late but it is great :)=
11:39 clrh             I do not understand when I get back my votes. I can "change them" anytime nevermind if there are on closed bz ?
11:40 oleonard         Do the votes... do anything?
11:40 clrh             prioritising bz if someone have to choose between two oleonard ?
11:40 clrh             Joubu: seems to use its
11:43 oleonard         https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/buglist.cgi?bug_status=NEW&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=ASSIGNED&columnlist=product%2Ccomponent%2Cassigned_to%2Cbug_status%2Cresolution%2Cshort_desc%2Cchangeddate%2Cvotes&f1=votes&list_id=283439&o1=greaterthaneq&order=votes%20DESC%2Cbug_id%20DESC&query_format=advanced&v1=1
11:44 tcohen           morning
11:48 * cait           waves
11:48 tcohen           hi cait oleonard clrh
11:48 cait             clrh: we activated the feature, but i think noone really checks the votes right now :(
11:54 clrh             cait: so it is apparently new
11:54 clrh             ?
12:03 clrh             I dont find a way to add a column with "votes" to order by them for example. I tought it was possible :/
12:04 clrh             change columnes.... pffffffff
12:04 wahanui          clrh: that doesn't look right
12:10 oleonard         clrh: It's possible -- That's what I did in the link I pasted above
12:11 clrh             thanks oleonard
12:57 cait             clrh: no, i thas been active for a looonng time
13:10 clrh             okay ;)
13:10 cait             we have never really advertised it or done something with it (which we should probably?)
13:13 caroline_catlady good morning!
13:14 oleonard         Hi caroline_catlady
13:46 cait             good morning :)
13:51 magnuse          hiya caroline_catlady
14:14 wizzyrea         hi
14:15 oleonard         Hi wizzyrea
14:25 caroline_catlady which field is used for the series facet in marc21? 490 or 830?
14:31 reiveune         bye
14:40 cait             marcelr++ thank you
15:11 mwr              mtj: Thank you from yesterday.
15:21 koha-jenkins     Project Koha_17.11_D8 build #158: SUCCESS in 33 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_17.11_D8/158/
15:48 caroline_catlady in circ rules, a rule for a specific library/all user categories should take precedence over a rule for all libraries/same user category, no?
15:49 kidclamp         yes
15:50 caroline_catlady Does this apply to holds as well?
15:51 cait             holiday here tomorrow :) bye all :)
15:51 caroline_catlady Specifically, I have a rule for a specific library/all user categories that says users can have 3 holds per record. But the rule for all libraries/same user category says users can only place one hold per record. It is the second that is applied
15:51 caroline_catlady I can't place more than one hold per record
15:52 kidclamp         are any of the holds specific rules set? in the lower sections?
15:53 caroline_catlady For all libraries, the default checkout, hold and return policy says 50, 50, From any library, anylibrary, item returns home (other than the 50's, I think it's what's there by default
15:53 caroline_catlady )
15:53 kidclamp         what are circcontrl and reservescontrolbranch set to?
15:54 caroline_catlady item's library
15:54 kidclamp         both of them?
15:54 caroline_catlady yes
15:55 caroline_catlady item's home library and library the item is from
15:55 kidclamp         holds per record is set to 3 and 1 respectively, what about holds allowed and maxreserves?
15:56 kidclamp         heh, sorry caroline_catlady , just checking all the things
15:56 caroline_catlady no problem
15:56 kidclamp         also, i just got home, so could be spouting nonsense
15:56 caroline_catlady maxreserves : 50
15:58 caroline_catlady holds allowed for specific library 10 (3 per record); and holds allowed for all libraries/same patron category 2 (1 per record)
15:58 kidclamp         title or item level holds?
15:59 kidclamp         same setup I can place 3 record level holds
15:59 caroline_catlady item level holds
15:59 caroline_catlady it is on a record that has items from several libraries
15:59 kidclamp         but multipel form the matchign branch?
16:00 caroline_catlady yes
16:00 caroline_catlady the client is on 18.05, but I tried it on master as well
16:00 caroline_catlady let me try again
16:00 kidclamp         I cannot recreate
16:01 kidclamp         https://snag.gy/BkrGzW.jpg
16:02 caroline_catlady Mine is https://snag.gy/YBSPIs.jpg
16:05 caroline_catlady ^ that is on master
16:05 caroline_catlady on the client's db in 18.05 https://snag.gy/bQ6I8d.jpg
16:09 kidclamp         select branchcode,categorycode,holds_per_record, holds_per_day,reservesallowed FROM issuingrules;
16:09 kidclamp         caroline_catlady: ^
16:09 caroline_catlady just a minute rice
16:09 * kidclamp       likes my new nickname "rice"
16:11 caroline_catlady this is from the client's db (no holds per day) for all libraries | *          | DS           |                1 |               1 |
16:11 caroline_catlady eesh
16:11 caroline_catlady let me paste that elsewhere
16:11 kidclamp         paste?
16:11 kidclamp         oh, wahanui
16:11 wahanui          kidclamp: what?
16:11 kidclamp         paste.koha-community.org
16:12 kidclamp         paste is paste.koha-community.org
16:12 kidclamp         wahanui: paste is paste.koha-community.org
16:12 wahanui          i already had it that way, kidclamp.
16:12 kidclamp         paste?
16:12 wahanui          paste is paste.koha-community.org
16:13 pastebot         "caroline_catlady" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "+------------+--------------+-" (8 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/2675
16:14 caroline_catlady I snipped it because it was276 rows
16:19 caroline_catlady I have to go, but I will try again this afternoon
16:21 kidclamp         kk, sorry, i don't see the issue
16:55 * oleonard       biab
18:59 kidclamp         meeting?
18:59 wahanui          meeting is over :)
18:59 cait             meeting
19:00 kidclamp         #startmeeting Development IRC meeting 29 May 2019
19:00 huginn`          Meeting started Wed May 29 19:00:43 2019 UTC.  The chair is kidclamp. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
19:00 huginn`          Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.
19:00 huginn`          The meeting name has been set to 'development_irc_meeting_29_may_2019'
19:00 kidclamp         #topic Introductions
19:01 kidclamp         #info NIck Clemens, ByWaterSolutions
19:01 cait             #info Katrin Fischer, BSZ, Germany
19:01 bag              #info Brendan Gallagher, ByWater
19:01 greenjimll       |#info Jon Knight, Loughborough Uni, UK
19:01 kidclamp         #link https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Development_IRC_meeting_29_May_2019 meeting agenda
19:02 cait             hm
19:02 cait             we should have the vote for naming the rleases after muppets today
19:02 davidnind        #info David Nind, Wellington, New Zealand
19:03 kidclamp         heh, taking advatange of the attendence cait :-)
19:03 davidnind        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Muppets
19:03 kidclamp         well, 5 of us, this can be short :-)
19:03 kidclamp         #topci Announcements
19:03 bag              +1
19:03 cait             kidclamp: typo :)
19:03 kidclamp         #topic Announcements
19:03 kidclamp         I announce that I just got home today, so expect many typos
19:04 bag              welcome home
19:04 cait             welcome back
19:04 kidclamp         the jetlag is real
19:04 kidclamp         thanks!
19:04 cait             no announcements from me
19:04 kidclamp         anyone else have announcements?
19:05 bag              nada
19:05 greenjimll       Nope
19:05 cait             davidnind? :)
19:05 kidclamp         #topic Update from the Release manager
19:06 davidnind        Swedish Koha User Group meeting in October https://koha.se/en/koha-i-sverige/save-the-date-anvandarmote-svenska-kohanatverket-15-17-oktober-2019/
19:06 bag              RM has jetlag
19:06 kidclamp         I am prepping for release, thank you to many of you for hands on the release notes
19:06 kidclamp         davidnind++
19:06 kidclamp         cait++
19:06 kidclamp         ashimema++
19:06 kidclamp         koha++
19:06 kidclamp         joubu++
19:06 bag              kidclamp++
19:07 kidclamp         will do final pushing and reviews tonight and shepherd things out tomorrow
19:07 cait             kidclamp: there are quite a few notes for you to 'remove'
19:07 kidclamp         :-)
19:07 cait             i can go through them tomorrow and standardize to RMNOTE like martin started if you want
19:07 kidclamp         yes, joubu has a helper for generating notes too
19:07 kidclamp         I think next release we can find a way to automate removing unwanted notes
19:07 cait             hm?
19:07 kidclamp         anywho, just trying to get things done :-)
19:08 cait             ... and please people stop pushing follow-ups to already released bugs
19:08 kidclamp         :-)
19:08 kidclamp         #info release coming along, thanks to all for hands on releasenotes
19:08 cait             #info Don't push follow-ups with bug numbers that have already been released!
19:08 kidclamp         heh
19:08 kidclamp         #topic Updates from the Release Maintainers
19:09 cait             um
19:09 cait             i had a concern
19:09 kidclamp         oh, osrry
19:09 cait             little too fast
19:09 cait             Mana
19:09 kidclamp         #chari cait
19:09 cait             i can do that in qa
19:09 kidclamp         #chair cait
19:09 huginn`          Current chairs: cait kidclamp
19:09 cait             let's to maints and i say my thing in QA
19:09 kidclamp         lukeG: around?
19:10 kidclamp         #maints will work on their releases too I am sure :-)
19:10 cait             #info rmaints working on their releases
19:11 kidclamp         moving on?
19:11 cait             yep
19:12 kidclamp         #topic Updates from the QA team
19:12 cait             I am concerned about the bugs left open for Mana
19:12 cait             we will be advertising this as a new feature in the release notes and people were also hyped up at Kohacon
19:12 cait             but
19:12 cait             bug 22915
19:12 huginn`          Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=22915 blocker, P1 - high, 19.05, koha-bugs, NEW , Cannot subscribe to Mana-KB
19:12 cait             bug 22210
19:12 huginn`          Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=22210 major, P5 - low, ---, alex.arnaud, Signed Off , Allow organisations to sign up to Mana KB (don't only ask for firstname lastname)
19:13 cait             i believe alex_a is still on vacation as paul_p said last week
19:13 cait             I have no idea how we can fix this
19:13 cait             Mana has been pushed early, but the bugs have not been taken care of :(
19:14 kidclamp         can other recreate registration problems?
19:14 cait             it certainly needs more testing, but i don't know how
19:15 cait             it looks like there are several mana domains
19:15 tcohen           #info Tomas Cohen Arazi, Theke Solutions
19:15 cait             production, test and also ui.mana-kb
19:15 cait             i am confused
19:15 cait             also: http://mana.koha-community.org/
19:16 greenjimll       Is it something that could be billed as a "first cut preview release"?
19:16 bag              @seen paul_p
19:16 huginn`          bag: paul_p was last seen in #koha 6 weeks, 5 days, 9 hours, 20 minutes, and 13 seconds ago: <paul_p> hi cait
19:16 cait             bug 22913
19:16 huginn`          Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=22913 minor, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , https://mana-kb.koha-community.org/ should not return a 404 error
19:16 cait             sorry, wrong url above
19:16 cait             greenjimll: i am more leaning to deactivating it
19:17 cait             and releasing it with .01 at this point
19:17 cait             unless we can fix the sign up
19:17 cait             but it leaves the argument about what data we shoudl ask for at sign-up - not sure if it matters if we change that later
19:17 cait             right now it's surname lastname
19:17 kidclamp         by deactiviating you mean disabling the advertising of the feature?
19:18 cait             shoudl be change to just be name
19:18 cait             i dunno
19:18 cait             what do people think?
19:18 cait             I can try to test tomorrow... but i already got stuck
19:18 greenjimll       O
19:18 greenjimll       I
19:18 greenjimll       Oops
19:18 kidclamp         I think if we can verify if registration works or not we can decide - if one can register I think beta is ok and we can fix the name part later
19:18 cait             ok
19:19 greenjimll       I'd say that the last name/first name is less of an issue than the failures to sign up/404s
19:19 kidclamp         if we really can't register at all I would ocnsider disabling the message
19:19 cait             greenjimll: agreed, if we can change it later easily
19:19 cait             shoudl be possible i guess
19:19 cait             i just really wished we coudl release this more polished
19:19 davidnind        if something is not ready, what do we normally do?
19:19 cait             davidnind: not push it ;)
19:20 tcohen           disable by default, and maybe mark it EXPERIMENTAL on the sysprefs
19:20 tcohen           (the on/off switch description)
19:20 cait             at least generally, tcohen's suggestion is good too
19:20 greenjimll       I assume it did work at some point to get signed off/QAed/pushed?
19:21 cait             it's pretty 'in the face' right now
19:21 kidclamp         yes, the feature was tested and was successful
19:21 cait             asking you to decide to turn it on/off
19:21 greenjimll       So its a problem in the service its talking to rather than the Koha codebase?
19:22 cait             i think of the sign-off issue that might be part of the issuse
19:22 cait             that we cannot fix if something has to be fixed on the mana server
19:23 greenjimll       But similarly if its effectively a "third party" service (the Mana server in this case) that's the issue, that could happen just as easily after release as before.
19:24 kidclamp         I think mana is very new, we expect some growing pains, but I would still ratehr have it than not
19:24 kidclamp         I am going to test registration today and would ask that others do as well
19:24 cait             it woudl not look to pull out now
19:24 cait             not look good
19:24 kidclamp         bug 17047
19:24 cait             so fixing is much preferred
19:24 huginn`          Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=17047 new feature, P5 - low, ---, alex.arnaud, RESOLVED FIXED, Mana Knowledge Base : Data sharing
19:25 kidclamp         instructions are there on setup
19:25 cait             according to the sign-up bug the registration on test might not work as the changes have been applied there
19:25 cait             or should only work with the patch applied
19:26 cait             just noting for people testing
19:26 cait             so probably need to test master with production
19:27 cait             @action all hands on deck testing Mana registration please
19:27 huginn`          cait: I suck
19:27 cait             #info see bugs 22915 and bug  22210
19:27 huginn`          Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=22210 major, P5 - low, ---, alex.arnaud, Signed Off , Allow organisations to sign up to Mana KB (don't only ask for firstname lastname)
19:27 cait             #action all hands on deck testing Mana registration please
19:28 cait             kidclamp: otherwise let me know if you need something - i will be around tomorrow
19:28 kidclamp         will do
19:28 bag              I’ll ping you kidclamp if I have any problems with it
19:28 cait             maybe ping for success too :)
19:28 kidclamp         thanks bag!
19:29 cait             i'd be relieved
19:29 bag              ok cait :)
19:29 kidclamp         moving on, fingers crossed, hopefully :-)
19:29 cait             :)
19:29 kidclamp         anything else for QA cait?
19:30 tcohen           I will be available for QA
19:30 tcohen           let me know
19:30 tcohen           or bugfixes, cait
19:30 cait             tcohen: anything sip2 and rest api in the queue please ;)
19:31 tcohen           (y)
19:31 cait             that doesn't trnaslate into a picture for me
19:32 kidclamp         :+1
19:32 bag              +1
19:32 tcohen           thumbs up
19:32 kidclamp         #topic General development discussion (trends, ideas, ...)
19:32 kidclamp         Anyone?
19:32 cait             ah
19:32 cait             i got one
19:33 cait             How to add indexes for authorities
19:33 cait             i am trying and i failed
19:33 cait             ended up with bug 23000
19:33 huginn`          Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=23000 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Running xsltproc for authority index definitions adds unwanted changes
19:33 cait             and bug 23001
19:33 huginn`          Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=23001 major, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , When the whole authority record is searched, search always returns all records
19:33 cait             but still didn't get it working... and the second is kinda bad
19:33 cait             if it finds something = the results are right, i just checked
19:33 cait             but if it finds noting, it just gives you 'all'
19:34 cait             there has been someone desperate about this on the mailing list, that's why I tried
19:35 cait             getting some help there would be nice :)
19:35 kidclamp         yeah, those are bad
19:36 tcohen           we should really have 21073 on 19.05 already
19:36 cait             hm i can't replicatet the second right now... same installation as yesterday
19:36 cait             someone else taking a look even more appreciated
19:36 cait             bug 21073
19:36 huginn`          Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=21073 enhancement, P5 - low, 19.05, kyle, Signed Off , Improve plugin performance
19:37 cait             quiet
19:37 cait             i am not sure if i can test this
19:37 tcohen           the main problem is it was tested by two Theke members...
19:38 cait             i can run the basic test
19:38 cait             but can't do performance testing
19:39 cait             so i can offer a sign-off maybe?
19:39 cait             @random
19:39 huginn`          cait: Error: The command "random" is available in the Dict, Factoids, and Quote plugins.  Please specify the plugin whose command you wish to call by using its name as a command before "random".
19:40 cait             so quiet... had to check if I am still here :)
19:40 tcohen           cait: no need to test performance actually
19:41 greenjimll       Does the performance improvement appear on a small test/dev instance, or is it only noticeable on large systems?
19:41 davidnind        Is the title wrong then? Looks like general improvement to plugins, rather than performance (not that I know anything about plugins).
19:42 davidnind        After a five second scan of the bug :)
19:42 tcohen           right now, any place that has hooks for plugins
19:42 greenjimll       cait: we're all reading the bugzilla report which is why we're quiet.
19:42 tcohen           triggers a search for existing plugins
19:43 tcohen           on the filesystem
19:43 tcohen           looking for those that implement X methods
19:43 tcohen           this bug makes plugins tell Koha what methods they implement
19:43 tcohen           and they are stored on the DB
19:43 tcohen           so a simple SQL query on MySQL
19:43 tcohen           instead of traversing the filesystem and loading the plugins, just in case
19:44 cait             what will happen if a plugin doesn't do it?
19:44 greenjimll       So something that will be more noticeable performance improvement on a large system?
19:44 cait             (backwards compatibility)
19:44 tcohen           this bug implements it so the plugin does nothing
19:44 tcohen           there's some introspection on what method the plugin has
19:44 tcohen           and they get populated on the DB
19:44 tcohen           next step is to streamline this
19:44 cait             #chair davidnind
19:44 huginn`          Current chairs: cait davidnind kidclamp
19:44 kidclamp         I have to run all, but I wil be back later and early tomorrow to finish up
19:45 kidclamp         #chair bag
19:45 huginn`          Current chairs: bag cait davidnind kidclamp
19:45 cait             so it will work with current plugins still
19:45 tcohen           and have plugins 'tell' what they are capable of
19:45 tcohen           yes
19:45 cait             but be better if they do it
19:45 cait             cool
19:45 tcohen           when we make that transition after this bug
19:45 tcohen           we will add an alert on about.pl
19:45 tcohen           to tell users to ask plugin authors to move to the 'new style'
19:45 bag              cait I just had no problems with registering for mana
19:45 tcohen           that's at least the plan
19:45 cait             bag: really glad to hear
19:46 cait             can you comment on the bug please?
19:46 cait             tcohen: sounds good
19:46 bag              bug 17047 ?
19:46 huginn`          Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=17047 new feature, P5 - low, ---, alex.arnaud, RESOLVED FIXED, Mana Knowledge Base : Data sharing
19:46 cait             bug 22915
19:46 huginn`          Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=22915 blocker, P1 - high, 19.05, koha-bugs, NEW , Cannot subscribe to Mana-KB
19:46 bag              or the other patches cait
19:46 bag              thanks
19:47 cait             ok
19:47 cait             moving on?
19:47 cait             #topic Review of coding guidelines
19:48 davidnind        tcohen++ Improvements to koha-testing-docker: can now run if you don't have an internet connection; command line aliases documentation makes it easier to use, for example ku = docker-compose -p koha up; fix git so alias
19:48 davidnind        Link https://gitlab.com/koha-community/koha-testing-docker#aliases
19:48 cait             #info  Improvements to koha-testing-docker: can now run if you don't have an internet connection; command line aliases documentation makes it easier to use, for example ku = docker-compose -p koha up; fix git so alias
19:48 cait             tcohen++
19:49 cait             we have nothing on the agenda for this topic
19:49 cait             will move on
19:49 cait             #topic Set time of next meeting
19:49 cait             can someone help me out here?
19:50 greenjimll       Will the next one be four weeks from today?
19:50 cait             2 weeks?
19:50 greenjimll       14:00 UTC on 12th June 2019?
19:50 cait             sounds good
19:51 cait             #info Next meeting: 12 June 2019, 14 UTC
19:51 cait             hope i got it right
19:51 cait             thx all for attending (and bearing with grumpy me)
19:51 davidnind        Looks good to me!
19:51 cait             #endmeeting
19:51 huginn`          Meeting ended Wed May 29 19:51:26 2019 UTC.  Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4)
19:51 huginn`          Minutes:        http://meetings.koha-community.org/2019/development_irc_meeting_29_may_2019.2019-05-29-19.00.html
19:51 huginn`          Minutes (text): http://meetings.koha-community.org/2019/development_irc_meeting_29_may_2019.2019-05-29-19.00.txt
19:51 huginn`          Log:            http://meetings.koha-community.org/2019/development_irc_meeting_29_may_2019.2019-05-29-19.00.log.html
19:51 tcohen           cait++
19:51 tcohen           kidclamp
19:51 davidnind        cait++
19:51 wahanui          kidclamp is reply i guess kidclamp is the first RM not to be bribed
19:51 greenjimll       Thanks folks.
19:51 tcohen           kidclamp++
19:51 cait             kidclamp++
19:51 cait             last days and counting I guess :)
19:54 ashimema         Ah, totally missed that one
19:54 ashimema         Oops
19:54 tcohen           don't worry: you were volunteered, ashimema
19:56 cait             ashimema: I was moaning about Mana and your blocker bug for you
19:56 cait             ;)
19:56 cait             but it seems to work for other snow, which is a good start
19:57 davidnind        caroline_catlady: https://twitter.com/BioDivLibrary/status/1133787741626482689
19:57 ashimema         Lol
19:57 * ashimema       reads back.. assume we're still in for release tomorrow if I remember correctly
19:57 cait             ... and I think there might not be enough muppets
19:57 bag              cait++
19:58 cait             good morning kathryn :)
19:59 kathryn          hello cait :) I hope you enjoyed Dublin!
19:59 cait             it was grand :)
20:00 kathryn          as they say ;)
20:00 cait             yep, i brushed up my vocabulary a bit :)
20:00 bag              heya kathryn
20:01 kathryn          hey bag :)
20:01 cait             bag++ # finally fixing his IRC :)
20:01 kathryn          I'm super duper looking forward to next year
20:05 cait             :)
20:05 cait             you will set up teleporters... I heard?
20:05 kathryn          oh jeez I gotta reign that guy in...
20:06 cait             :P
20:06 kathryn          hehe!
20:36 rangi            morning
20:37 cait             morning rangi
20:37 cait             sorry, I told kathryn you promised us teleporter
20:37 cait             s
20:39 rangi            heh
20:43 bag              morning rangi
21:16 Joubu            hi #koha
21:16 cait             hi Joubu :)
21:17 Joubu            cait, kidclamp: about the bug in the release notes: https://gitlab.com/koha-community/release-tools/merge_requests/8
21:17 cait             i think it only fixes one case
21:17 cait             but harder to catch those
21:18 cait             :)
21:18 cait             coudl you also auto-remove bugs that have a certain keyword in the release notes field?
21:18 cait             we have quite some this time
21:18 Joubu            we should not followup on already released bug #
21:19 cait             yep
21:19 Joubu            so it should catch all the valid cases :)
21:19 cait             i said earlier don't push, but this also applies to lazy devs
21:19 cait             put your stuff on new bugs :)
21:19 Joubu            there are ~30 bugs that are part of the release notes that should not
21:21 cait             more than i counted
21:21 cait             are those the ones your patch fixes?
21:21 cait             who can merge?
21:23 Joubu            it will prevent the script to pick bug number from outside the commit title (i.e. not commit body)
21:23 Joubu            I set ashimema and kidclamp as approvers, they can approve and merge
21:23 cait             ok
21:23 cait             what happens if you put a second bug number in subject? does it only use the one form the beginning?
21:26 cait             Joubu++
21:27 Joubu            it will only pick ^bug \d+ so the first one
21:28 cait             :)
21:28 cait             thought of everything
22:02 caroline_catlady good night!
22:30 kidclamp         Ashimema tested and said it looked good, I will try early tomorrow joubu