IRC log for #koha, 2019-05-21

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05:24 fridolin hi
05:24 wahanui what's up, fridolin
05:24 fridolin all good wahanui
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06:36 reiveune hello
06:36 wahanui niihau, reiveune
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08:52 vfernandes hi #koha
08:55 vfernandes can someone help me with one Koha + MySQL timezone question?
08:57 vfernandes my server is on GMT+1, MySQL is using system timezone, TZ is set to "Europe/Lisbon"
08:58 vfernandes "SELECT now()" show the correct time
08:58 vfernandes but my issuedate (for example) is being changed to correct time-1
09:10 tuxayo vfernandes: maybe issuedate is storing in UTC. Is the date correctly displayed in Koha?
09:10 tuxayo *stored
09:11 vfernandes tuxayo: no, the date is displayed as is stored in database
09:12 tuxayo Ho, that's indeed an issue. Is there a timezone setting for Koha? In case not, I could also use the timezone from the server. These are hypothesis about how that could work.
09:13 vfernandes timestamp - 2019-05-21 10:13:01
09:14 vfernandes issuedate - 2019-05-21 09:13:01
09:15 tuxayo The previous hypotheses about where to look are invalidated... (if I understand correctly now)
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09:25 oleonard Hi #koha
09:25 lisettelatah hi oleonard
09:25 wahanui hi oleopard
09:25 tuxayo o/
09:26 oleonard Why are we up so early lisettelatah ?
09:26 lisettelatah Kohacon2019 livestream
09:26 oleonard Is it working for you?
09:26 oleonard I'm just getting yesterday
09:27 lisettelatah It was, they broke for coffee so I'm watching yesterday's because I didn't catch that one.
09:27 lisettelatah It is a different link
09:28 oleonard A new link for today?
09:28 lisettelatah
09:30 oleonard Thank you
09:34 lisettelatah Happy to help! Did you get to watch yesterday? I'm watching the archived video now.
09:35 oleonard I did. I'm going to fall behind today since it's a longer day of talks
09:35 vfernandes tuxayo: two things that are very strange: 1) i've printed the date before being added to MySQL and it's fine, 2) in another installation (different servers) the problem isn't happening
09:36 vfernandes so it must be something environmental
09:36 tuxayo hummm, indeed
09:38 oleonard lisettelatah: You and I need to induce a national cultural change to normalize sending librarians to international conferences
09:40 lisettelatah oleonard: agreed. I've been talking to my state library rep about getting grants for the 2020 conference. She is very excited at the prospect! Our consortium might also be willing to contribute some funds as well. I'm working really hard on getting to New Zealand.
09:41 vfernandes the servers have different Ubuntu Versions (18.04 LTS and 14.04 LTS) and the one working correctly (the one with 14.04) have daylight saving set
09:41 oleonard I like the idea of getting a grant and hate the idea of talking to my state rep :(
09:42 lisettelatah My state rep is also a patron at my library, so she comes in all the time to talk. It is very helpful.
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10:14 m23 Hi Koha
10:15 m23 Elastic add security features into basic package:[…]icsearch-security
10:30 oleonard tuxayo: Brave of you to test Bug 15522 :)
10:30 huginn` Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=15522 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, BLOCKED , New interface for revamped circulation rules
10:33 tuxayo oleonard: thanks  ^^"
10:33 tuxayo I even tried to rebase it, and suddenly the bravery went away. It was never that fast. Gone.
10:34 oleonard It's a complicated bug and long-neglected. My impression is that it's dead. :(
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10:40 tuxayo I was planning to ask here if somone knew how to make it work in the state when it was active.
10:40 tuxayo > My impression is that it's dead. :(
10:40 tuxayo Oh :( Maybe the hackfest at the KohaCon (I'm not there) could be a good opportunity to take a look again.
10:40 tuxayo Does anyone know who besides pianohacker/Jesse Weaver might have a good understanding of bug 15522 ?
10:40 huginn` Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=15522 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, BLOCKED , New interface for revamped circulation rules
10:48 oleonard tuxayo: khall would be your best bet but he's always swamped
10:48 * oleonard bbl
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11:26 oleonard Hi again
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12:16 oleonard I wonder if we'll hit Bug 23000 by the end of the week
12:16 huginn` Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=23000 could not be retrieved: InvalidBugId
12:16 oleonard Not yet huginn`, not yet.
12:28 tuxayo > khall would be your best bet but he's always swamped
12:28 tuxayo Thanks for the info oleonard , I'll try to not pile too much additional swamp. ^^
12:29 oleonard tuxayo: I would like some more clarity about the status of the development, though. I think the interface is one which is sorely in need of improvement, and in my mind that bug has blocked any other attempts
12:31 tuxayo > that bug has blocked any other attempts
12:31 tuxayo Indeed, for a customer issue, I'm not even trying to see if we can fix the current UI, that why I'm poking at the revamp instead :)
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12:35 oleonard Hi kidclamp!
12:35 kidclamp Hi oleonard
12:35 wahanui hi oleopard
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13:12 ashimema very quiet in here today
13:12 ashimema shout out from kohacon10
13:12 ashimema shout out from kohacon19.. even
13:12 ashimema mr typo strikes again
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13:55 oleonard Hi ashimema and wizzyrea
13:55 oleonard It's quiet because we're all glued to the live stream :)
13:55 * oleonard is catching up on what he missed
14:01 oleonard Nice to put a face to Arthur Suzuki's name
14:04 vfernandes tuxayo: are you here?
14:05 tuxayo vfernandes: yes
14:05 vfernandes I've restarted plack and now the dates are fine...
14:05 wizzyrea hi peeps
14:05 vfernandes for some reason Plack is not reading TZ correctly
14:05 tuxayo vfernandes: good news! Is it clear why it works now?
14:06 vfernandes not yet... :D
14:07 vfernandes maybe plack is started before TZ being defined on ENV and the Koha::Database object isn't correctly stared
14:07 vfernandes that's my guess
14:08 vfernandes https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]ment.cgi?id=73701
14:08 wizzyrea golly the stream is quiet
14:08 oleonard It's always break time!
14:08 wizzyrea well it just started I guess?
14:09 lisettelatah about 10 minutes until the next session.
14:09 wizzyrea cool ty :)
14:11 wizzyrea hm I think I have the wrong live stream link
14:12 oleonard Oh yeah, new one today
14:12 oleonard
14:12 tcohen hi all
14:12 * oleonard had the same confusion
14:13 oleonard wizzyrea: There's a big swath of nothing in the livestream for some reason. You'll have to scan to find the first available talk, by Sonia
14:13 wizzyrea oo thank you
14:13 wizzyrea hi tcohen
14:14 lisettelatah Sonia's talk was after a 30 minute break. The youtube live "DVR" only goes back up to 3 hours or something.
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15:11 wizzyrea if you're watching the live stream
15:11 * wizzyrea has a wee weep
15:13 * oleonard seconds that sentiment
15:16 ashimema 😀
15:18 wizzyrea i like his tap dancing
15:18 wizzyrea it's fun
15:19 * oleonard is a few minutes behind on the stream
15:20 wizzyrea no no verbal tapdancing ;)
15:20 * oleonard jokes about no spoilers and so-and-so being a ghost the whole time
15:22 wizzyrea lol
15:23 wizzyrea "users don't care what the library has" but I tell ya, they do care if it's hard to use.
15:25 lisettelatah so true.
15:25 lisettelatah I've had patrons who came from other koha libraries who were very pleased we had the same thing, even if they didn't know what it was called.
15:28 wizzyrea ^^^
15:36 wizzyrea yeah make sure that you turn on hea, as you can, for libraries you implement for
15:52 tuxayo wizzyrea: thank for awakening my curiosity about the live stream :D I'm enjoying Marshall's talk while trying to reproduce a permission issue which is a bit tedious ^^
15:53 wizzyrea hehe
15:54 tuxayo This is so convinient to be able to pause and go back :)
15:59 reiveune bye
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16:11 wizzyrea oleonard, bug 22844 what are your thoughts there
16:11 huginn` Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=22844 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, In Discussion , Simplify the process of selecting database columns for system preferences
16:12 wizzyrea that is an awesome feature but it is right that the member attribute thing needs fixing
16:12 oleonard wizzyrea: Did you test Joubu's follow-up? I haven't had a chance to.
16:12 wizzyrea i haven't
16:12 wizzyrea but his commit message isn't inspiring
16:12 wizzyrea :P
16:12 oleonard Yeah and not having looked at it I'm not sure why
16:13 wizzyrea neithere
16:13 wizzyrea er yeah ykwim
16:13 wizzyrea possibly i have drunk too much coffee as it is horrible and cold outside.
16:13 wizzyrea and now have caffiene brain
16:13 wizzyrea which is basically like a goldfish's brain
16:13 wizzyrea "ooh a bubbler! Ooh a bubbler!"
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16:46 * oleonard continues to stare at the bubbler
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17:17 Frank_P Evening everyone =) anyone available to assist? My koha server was working perfectly, after a couple of restarts was still working fine, and then yesterday I no longer can access via the web. I have checked all files, such as /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/libraryname.conf, & /etc/koha/koha-sites.conf and everything is still the same. I have also restarted apache. Can someone assist me with checking which element has stopped working?
17:21 Frank_P on second inspection, it looks like my IP address has changed? how is this possible... I thought IP would be static?
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21:19 kohaputti KohaCon people still out there? Where?
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23:01 ashimema If there is anyone left now they're at the porterhouse
23:01 ashimema I just got back to my hotel myself... Nice brisk walk in the night air.
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