Time Nick Message 23:01 ashimema I just got back to my hotel myself... Nice brisk walk in the night air. 23:01 ashimema If there is anyone left now they're at the porterhouse 21:19 kohaputti KohaCon people still out there? Where? 17:21 Frank_P on second inspection, it looks like my IP address has changed? how is this possible... I thought IP would be static? 17:17 Frank_P Evening everyone =) anyone available to assist? My koha server was working perfectly, after a couple of restarts was still working fine, and then yesterday I no longer can access via the web. I have checked all files, such as /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/libraryname.conf, & /etc/koha/koha-sites.conf and everything is still the same. I have also restarted apache. Can someone assist me with checking which element has stopped working? 16:46 * oleonard continues to stare at the bubbler 16:13 wizzyrea "ooh a bubbler! Ooh a bubbler!" 16:13 wizzyrea which is basically like a goldfish's brain 16:13 wizzyrea and now have caffiene brain 16:13 wizzyrea possibly i have drunk too much coffee as it is horrible and cold outside. 16:13 wizzyrea er yeah ykwim 16:13 wizzyrea neithere 16:12 oleonard Yeah and not having looked at it I'm not sure why 16:12 wizzyrea :P 16:12 wizzyrea but his commit message isn't inspiring 16:12 wizzyrea i haven't 16:12 oleonard wizzyrea: Did you test Joubu's follow-up? I haven't had a chance to. 16:12 wizzyrea that is an awesome feature but it is right that the member attribute thing needs fixing 16:11 huginn` Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=22844 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, In Discussion , Simplify the process of selecting database columns for system preferences 16:11 wizzyrea oleonard, bug 22844 what are your thoughts there 15:59 reiveune bye 15:57 oleonard [off] <fist bump> 15:57 wizzyrea [off] just by being you know, better. 15:57 wizzyrea [off] we also did that :P 15:57 wizzyrea [off] mua ha ha ha ha ha 15:56 oleonard [off] There's a nice dunk on Liblime in Marshall's slide of systems migrating to ByWater 15:54 tuxayo This is so convinient to be able to pause and go back :) 15:53 wizzyrea hehe 15:52 tuxayo wizzyrea: thank for awakening my curiosity about the live stream :D I'm enjoying Marshall's talk while trying to reproduce a permission issue which is a bit tedious ^^ 15:36 wizzyrea yeah make sure that you turn on hea, as you can, for libraries you implement for 15:28 wizzyrea ^^^ 15:25 lisettelatah I've had patrons who came from other koha libraries who were very pleased we had the same thing, even if they didn't know what it was called. 15:25 lisettelatah so true. 15:23 wizzyrea "users don't care what the library has" but I tell ya, they do care if it's hard to use. 15:22 wizzyrea lol 15:20 * oleonard jokes about no spoilers and so-and-so being a ghost the whole time 15:20 wizzyrea no no verbal tapdancing ;) 15:19 * oleonard is a few minutes behind on the stream 15:18 wizzyrea it's fun 15:18 wizzyrea i like his tap dancing 15:16 ashimema 😀 15:13 * oleonard seconds that sentiment 15:11 * wizzyrea has a wee weep 15:11 wizzyrea YOU GUYS. WE DID THAT. WE MADE THAT. AND PEOPLE LIKE IT. 15:11 wizzyrea if you're watching the live stream 14:14 lisettelatah Sonia's talk was after a 30 minute break. The youtube live "DVR" only goes back up to 3 hours or something. 14:13 wizzyrea hi tcohen 14:13 wizzyrea oo thank you 14:13 oleonard wizzyrea: There's a big swath of nothing in the livestream for some reason. You'll have to scan to find the first available talk, by Sonia 14:12 * oleonard had the same confusion 14:12 tcohen hi all 14:12 oleonard https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U1JBTrse0Qw 14:12 oleonard Oh yeah, new one today 14:11 wizzyrea hm I think I have the wrong live stream link 14:09 wizzyrea cool ty :) 14:09 lisettelatah about 10 minutes until the next session. 14:08 wizzyrea well it just started I guess? 14:08 oleonard It's always break time! 14:08 wizzyrea golly the stream is quiet 14:08 vfernandes https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/attachment.cgi?id=73701 14:07 vfernandes that's my guess 14:07 vfernandes maybe plack is started before TZ being defined on ENV and the Koha::Database object isn't correctly stared 14:06 vfernandes not yet... :D 14:05 tuxayo vfernandes: good news! Is it clear why it works now? 14:05 vfernandes for some reason Plack is not reading TZ correctly 14:05 wizzyrea hi peeps 14:05 vfernandes I've restarted plack and now the dates are fine... 14:05 tuxayo vfernandes: yes 14:04 vfernandes tuxayo: are you here? 14:01 oleonard Nice to put a face to Arthur Suzuki's name 13:55 * oleonard is catching up on what he missed 13:55 oleonard It's quiet because we're all glued to the live stream :) 13:55 oleonard Hi ashimema and wizzyrea 13:12 ashimema mr typo strikes again 13:12 ashimema shout out from kohacon19.. even 13:12 ashimema shout out from kohacon10 13:12 ashimema very quiet in here today 12:35 wahanui hi oleopard 12:35 kidclamp Hi oleonard 12:35 oleonard Hi kidclamp! 12:31 tuxayo Indeed, for a customer issue, I'm not even trying to see if we can fix the current UI, that why I'm poking at the revamp instead :) 12:31 tuxayo > that bug has blocked any other attempts 12:29 oleonard tuxayo: I would like some more clarity about the status of the development, though. I think the interface is one which is sorely in need of improvement, and in my mind that bug has blocked any other attempts 12:28 tuxayo Thanks for the info oleonard , I'll try to not pile too much additional swamp. ^^ 12:28 tuxayo > khall would be your best bet but he's always swamped 12:16 oleonard Not yet huginn`, not yet. 12:16 huginn` Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=23000 could not be retrieved: InvalidBugId 12:16 oleonard I wonder if we'll hit Bug 23000 by the end of the week 11:26 oleonard Hi again 10:48 * oleonard bbl 10:48 oleonard tuxayo: khall would be your best bet but he's always swamped 10:40 huginn` Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=15522 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, BLOCKED , New interface for revamped circulation rules 10:40 tuxayo Does anyone know who besides pianohacker/Jesse Weaver might have a good understanding of bug 15522 ? 10:40 tuxayo Oh :( Maybe the hackfest at the KohaCon (I'm not there) could be a good opportunity to take a look again. 10:40 tuxayo > My impression is that it's dead. :( 10:40 tuxayo I was planning to ask here if somone knew how to make it work in the state when it was active. 10:34 oleonard It's a complicated bug and long-neglected. My impression is that it's dead. :( 10:33 tuxayo I even tried to rebase it, and suddenly the bravery went away. It was never that fast. Gone. 10:33 tuxayo oleonard: thanks ^^" 10:30 huginn` Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=15522 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, BLOCKED , New interface for revamped circulation rules 10:30 oleonard tuxayo: Brave of you to test Bug 15522 :) 10:15 m23 Elastic add security features into basic package: https://www.elastic.co/blog/getting-started-with-elasticsearch-security 10:14 m23 Hi Koha 09:42 lisettelatah My state rep is also a patron at my library, so she comes in all the time to talk. It is very helpful. 09:41 oleonard I like the idea of getting a grant and hate the idea of talking to my state rep :( 09:41 vfernandes the servers have different Ubuntu Versions (18.04 LTS and 14.04 LTS) and the one working correctly (the one with 14.04) have daylight saving set 09:40 lisettelatah oleonard: agreed. I've been talking to my state library rep about getting grants for the 2020 conference. She is very excited at the prospect! Our consortium might also be willing to contribute some funds as well. I'm working really hard on getting to New Zealand. 09:38 oleonard lisettelatah: You and I need to induce a national cultural change to normalize sending librarians to international conferences 09:36 tuxayo hummm, indeed 09:36 vfernandes so it must be something environmental 09:35 vfernandes tuxayo: two things that are very strange: 1) i've printed the date before being added to MySQL and it's fine, 2) in another installation (different servers) the problem isn't happening 09:35 oleonard I did. I'm going to fall behind today since it's a longer day of talks 09:34 lisettelatah Happy to help! Did you get to watch yesterday? I'm watching the archived video now. 09:30 oleonard Thank you 09:28 lisettelatah https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U1JBTrse0Qw 09:28 oleonard A new link for today? 09:27 lisettelatah It is a different link 09:27 lisettelatah It was, they broke for coffee so I'm watching yesterday's because I didn't catch that one. 09:26 oleonard I'm just getting yesterday 09:26 oleonard Is it working for you? 09:26 lisettelatah Kohacon2019 livestream 09:26 oleonard Why are we up so early lisettelatah ? 09:25 tuxayo o/ 09:25 wahanui hi oleopard 09:25 lisettelatah hi oleonard 09:25 oleonard Hi #koha 09:15 tuxayo The previous hypotheses about where to look are invalidated... (if I understand correctly now) 09:14 vfernandes issuedate - 2019-05-21 09:13:01 09:13 vfernandes timestamp - 2019-05-21 10:13:01 09:12 tuxayo Ho, that's indeed an issue. Is there a timezone setting for Koha? In case not, I could also use the timezone from the server. These are hypothesis about how that could work. 09:11 vfernandes tuxayo: no, the date is displayed as is stored in database 09:10 tuxayo *stored 09:10 tuxayo vfernandes: maybe issuedate is storing in UTC. Is the date correctly displayed in Koha? 08:58 vfernandes but my issuedate (for example) is being changed to correct time-1 08:58 vfernandes "SELECT now()" show the correct time 08:57 vfernandes my server is on GMT+1, MySQL is using system timezone, TZ is set to "Europe/Lisbon" 08:55 vfernandes can someone help me with one Koha + MySQL timezone question? 08:52 vfernandes hi #koha 06:36 wahanui niihau, reiveune 06:36 reiveune hello 05:24 fridolin all good wahanui 05:24 wahanui what's up, fridolin 05:24 fridolin hi