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fridolin |
hi |
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wahanui |
kia ora, fridolin |
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magnuse |
\o/ |
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calire |
morning |
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Morning |
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ashimema |
Morning #koha |
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ashimema |
Nice to have you back Oak |
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ashimema |
rangi++ #historian |
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Oak |
ashimema you remember me! :) thank you! |
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ashimema |
I remember lots of people :) |
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ashimema |
I also had a near 2 year sabatical away from Koha so appreciated it when people remembered me when I came back ;) |
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ashimema |
#koha is such a lovely community :) |
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cait |
how could we forget? :) |
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marcelr |
hi #koha |
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gk |
I upgraded from 18.11.02 to 18.11.04.1, after upgrade and web installation I can login to staff client but OPAC throw errors like Can't use an undefined value as an ARRAY reference at /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/perl5/5.26/DBI.pm line 2081. |
| 06:48 |
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gk |
Hi koha how long one has to wait to be answered, in fact I am new to this. |
| 06:48 |
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ashimema |
Hi gk |
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ashimema |
lots of people are only just coming online this morning |
| 06:49 |
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ashimema |
We have a few customers running that particular version without issue.. |
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ashimema |
What type of install are you using, Debian Packages (so you just did a apt update to upgrade) ? |
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gk |
hi ashimema I have installed on ubuntu 18.04 |
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gk |
I did apt-get update & upgrade both went fine |
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gk |
Yes It is debian packages |
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ashimema |
mysql or mariadb and are you sure whichever it is is running? |
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gk |
It is mysql 5.7 |
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ashimema |
initially I think I'd try a restart of all service in case something failed to restart during upgrade (it's a bit grabbing at straws, but worth a try) |
| 06:53 |
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ashimema |
I need to quickly grab some breakfast but will be back shortly |
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gk |
Its ok |
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magnuse |
Oak |
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gk |
Yes I did reboot my ubuntu server |
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alex_a |
bonjour |
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Oak |
magnuse |
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magnuse |
you gotta be quicker, Oak ;-) |
| 07:01 |
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magnuse |
gk: when do you get that error? just loking at the opac front page? or when searching? |
| 07:02 |
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gk |
When I search for something |
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Oak |
ashimema, you are awesome, as is everyone here. Yes, it's such a pleasant feeling to be remembered... especially when we've not met in person. |
| 07:05 |
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Oak |
Heh magnuse, was replying to a client. You know how one has to think hard about each sentence making sure it does not sound rude or abrupt. |
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magnuse |
Oak: yup, sure |
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magnuse |
kia ora paul_p and cait |
| 07:17 |
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Oak |
For g k's problem, I'm out of touch, but perhaps something to look at until someone can answer? https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=16858 |
| 07:17 |
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huginn` |
Bug 16858: major, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, RESOLVED DUPLICATE, import_borrowers.pl does not load because of mysql 5.7 |
| 07:21 |
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mtj |
hi gk: try reindexing your records, if you have a search problem |
| 07:21 |
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gk |
hi mtji Yes I rebuild zebra searching works in staff window but not in OPAC |
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mtj |
gk hmm, ok.. thats a specifc problem... |
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gk |
yes mtj that is a specific problem do you need log info |
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* cait |
waves |
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* Oak |
waves back to cait |
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cait |
:) |
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mtj |
hiya cait, Oak |
| 07:31 |
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mtj |
gk, yes sure... http://paste.koha-community.org/ |
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pastebot |
"gk" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "OPAC search error after upgrade" (10 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/2655 |
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pastebot |
"gk" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "OPAC search error after upgrade" (10 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/2656 |
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* andreashm |
waves |
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mtj |
gk, hmmm, looks like a 'tags' error? ... try setting your 'TagsEnabled' syspref to disable - and reload opac? |
| 07:51 |
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ashimema |
bug 21662 is back on the board for QA for anyone interested.. with a lovely followup thanks to Chris :) |
| 07:51 |
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huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=21662 enhancement, P5 - low, 19.05, martin.renvoize, Signed Off , Missing developers from history |
| 07:51 |
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marcelr |
ashimema: today or tomorrow |
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ashimema |
:D |
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mtj |
hi ashimema, can i PM you re: release |
| 07:53 |
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ashimema |
sure |
| 08:05 |
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mtj |
Bug 21846 - Using emoji as tags doesn't discriminate between emoji when calculating weights or searching |
| 08:05 |
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huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=21846 normal, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, RESOLVED FIXED, Using emoji as tags doesn't discriminate between emoji when calculating weights or searching |
| 08:06 |
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mtj |
^ ...hmm, i wonder if gk's error is caused by that patch, pushed to 18.11.04 |
| 08:06 |
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ashimema |
@later tell oleonard any thoughts on how I can clarify the look on bug 21626 ? |
| 08:06 |
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huginn` |
ashimema: The operation succeeded. |
| 08:07 |
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ashimema |
hmm.. could be |
| 08:08 |
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ashimema |
gk there is a new release with a few more bugfixes coming out this afternoon btw.. just to gie you a heads up if you're doing upgrades at the minute |
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mtj |
gk.. did disabling the syspref fix you opac search error? |
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gk |
hi mtj |
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gk |
I disabled logs and the opac search works. Thank you very much. And tell me when should I enable it |
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gk |
ashimema, I will upgrade tomorrow. Thank you very much. Goodbye |
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josef_moravec |
hello #koha |
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magnuse |
hiya josef_moravec |
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josef_moravec |
hi magnuse |
| 09:11 |
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magnuse |
do we have any written guidelines for security? like "always protect against csrf"? |
| 09:16 |
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ashimema |
erm... |
| 09:16 |
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ashimema |
possibly |
| 09:16 |
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ashimema |
possibly not |
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josef_moravec |
hi ashimema: have you set date of release for 18.11.05? |
| 09:20 |
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ashimema |
today ;) |
| 09:21 |
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ashimema |
it's a security one so getting everyone together with all the bank holidays around the world this particular month has been.. interesting ;) |
| 09:21 |
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magnuse |
ashimema++ |
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josef_moravec |
ashimema++ |
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oleonard |
Hi all |
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josef_moravec |
hi oleonard |
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wahanui |
hi oleopard |
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magnuse |
ho oleonard |
| 11:35 |
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Oak |
Hi oleonard |
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wahanui |
hi oleopard |
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Oak |
ashimema++ |
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magnuse |
has anyone ever had a third party do a security audit/assessment of koha, and published the results? |
| 11:45 |
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ashimema |
erm |
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ashimema |
not sure if the one's our customers have done are published per say.. they all get reported to the security section of BZ and fixed though.. |
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magnuse |
i was thinking third party = someone who specialises in testing and looking for security problems |
| 11:49 |
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ashimema |
indeed |
| 11:49 |
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magnuse |
i had a couple of such audits on another project i was working on |
| 11:49 |
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ashimema |
we semi regularly have customers who hire external auditors and penetration testing companies to do a secuity audit for them |
| 11:49 |
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magnuse |
oh, cool! |
| 11:50 |
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magnuse |
and if they find anything it gets reported and fixed, of course? |
| 11:50 |
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magnuse |
otherwise there wouldn't be much point, i guess :-) |
| 11:50 |
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ashimema |
it's something I'd love to see more actively done within community though.. like a sponsored pot somewhere and a regular full on pen test done a month before each cycle's final release.. probably between feature freeze and release |
| 11:50 |
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ashimema |
yup |
| 11:51 |
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magnuse |
yeah, that would be awesome |
| 11:51 |
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* ashimema |
would also like to introduce arachni scanner into our jenkins workflow |
| 11:51 |
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ashimema |
but all these things need a bit of time and somone to host a system somewhere |
| 11:51 |
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magnuse |
i wonder if libraries and vendors would contribute to a fund for that |
| 11:51 |
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magnuse |
yeah, time... |
| 11:52 |
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ashimema |
I tried setting up arachni internally for a while.. but it turned out to be pretty heavy.. automatically trying to hack a system is actually pretty load intensive on the system your hitting ;) |
| 11:52 |
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ashimema |
it's one of the things I was hoping to discuss with koha-us.org actually ;) |
| 11:53 |
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ashimema |
might be right up their street as a non-profit and give them a bit of presence |
| 11:53 |
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* ashimema |
makes note to catch Todd |
| 11:53 |
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magnuse |
sounds like a good plan! |
| 11:56 |
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magnuse |
it would also be super cool if libraries that do audits could inform the community a bit about it, like sending an email to the list saying e.g. "we had an audit, found 5 problems and they have all been submitted as bz bugs" |
| 11:56 |
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magnuse |
and maybe say what the bugs were, once they have been fixed |
| 11:59 |
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magnuse |
and if the formal documentation from the testing could be made available (after the bugs have been fixed) that would of course also be awesome |
| 12:02 |
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* ashimema |
savours the moment of being top of the QA leaderboard for the month for the brief time before cait kicks be back down again :) |
| 12:03 |
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magnuse |
ashimema++ |
| 12:03 |
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ashimema |
security bugs are made public on release I think aren't they |
| 12:03 |
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ashimema |
on bz I mean |
| 12:03 |
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magnuse |
looks like arachni has not been updated for a couple years? |
| 12:03 |
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ashimema |
It's not something I've really considered |
| 12:04 |
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ashimema |
lol.. it was a couple of years ago I looked at arachni |
| 12:04 |
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ashimema |
perhaps there's a better alternative these days |
| 12:04 |
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magnuse |
yeah, i think that is the way of security bugs |
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* magnuse |
dunno |
| 12:05 |
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magnuse |
maybe i should send an email to the list and ask if anyone can disclose anything about security audits |
| 12:06 |
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ashimema |
looks like there was activity on it up to late september 2018.. but it wasn't released |
| 12:07 |
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magnuse |
oops |
| 12:08 |
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magnuse |
but without getting lost in particulars, yes it would be cool to have a small army of tools like that and unleash it on koha every now and then |
| 12:08 |
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magnuse |
also if there are any automated tools for things like accessibility |
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caroline_catlady |
good morning! |
| 12:45 |
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oleonard |
Hi caroline_catlady |
| 12:50 |
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cait |
ashimema: heh - i will push you down again ;) |
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ere |
Hi #koha! |
| 12:58 |
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ere |
Is this a spurious error from qa-test-tools or am I missing something: |
| 12:58 |
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ere |
missing_filter at line 12 ([% WHILE ( part_numbers.$i.defined || part_names.$i.defined ) %]) |
| 12:59 |
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ere |
$i is just: |
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ere |
[% i = 0 %] |
| 13:05 |
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ashimema |
hmm.. feels spurious to me |
| 13:05 |
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oleonard |
It looks like a false alarm to me ere |
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ere |
thanks, I'll file an issue and ignore it for now :) |
| 13:13 |
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ashimema |
ta |
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lukeG |
ashimema++ |
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ere |
ashimema: https://gitlab.com/koha-commun[…]t-tools/issues/17 |
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m23 |
hello Koha |
| 13:42 |
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kidclamp |
push him around now cait, before he is the RM and pushes back |
| 13:43 |
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ashimema |
oh, bugzila graph colours changed with the update |
| 13:44 |
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oleonard |
Bugzilla got an update? |
| 13:44 |
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ashimema |
'Needs signoff' went from orange to green |
| 13:44 |
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ashimema |
yeah, rangi did one last night I think.. twas only a minor one I think |
| 13:45 |
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* ashimema |
got all excited thinking his bug tree had suddenly got lots of attention |
| 13:45 |
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ashimema |
but alas the status's hadn't actually changed |
| 13:45 |
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m23 |
Is here any Kohadevbox guru? I'm not able to come Kohadevbox to life on one of my computer. Only on this machine a everytime get error: TASK [Update apt cache if needed] ********************************************** fatal: [stretch]: UNREACHABLE! => {"changed": false, "msg": "Failed to connect to the host via ssh: ", "unreachable": true} on start. Anybody saw this before? In my others 2 machines Kohadevbox running great without this isssue. |
| 13:47 |
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oleonard |
ashimema: Check it out, mine looks like a battleship https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]ot/ZpRP_OJlZ0.png |
| 13:47 |
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ashimema |
oh wow.. |
| 13:47 |
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oleonard |
(Bug 14546) |
| 13:47 |
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huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=14546 new feature, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , Make staff client templates responsive |
| 13:47 |
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ashimema |
m23 are you trying to use elastic? |
| 13:48 |
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ashimema |
a very recent change by oracle means kohadevbox won't build with elastic support at the minute.. |
| 13:48 |
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m23 |
ashimema No. I know about "proglem Oracle" :-) |
| 13:48 |
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ashimema |
oracle went then blew away the java package repository |
| 13:48 |
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huginn` |
News from kohagit: Bug 22692: (RM follow-up) Adjust test count <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]76ea266760a7498cd> |
| 13:48 |
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huginn` |
News from kohagit: Bug 22478: (QA follow-up) Update tests to check for any script tags <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]30c4e32ff018c81a5> |
| 13:48 |
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huginn` |
News from kohagit: Bug 22478: (QA follow-up) Make test consistent with variable name <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]7e5b40456b359f420> |
| 13:48 |
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huginn` |
News from kohagit: Bug 22478: (RMaint follow-up) source t::lib::Mocks <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]f83a9c63bb3c9b104> |
| 13:48 |
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huginn` |
News from kohagit: Bug 22478: (QA follow-up) Handle category in opac-shelves like a boolean <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]4494b123ce370c3f4> |
| 13:48 |
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huginn` |
News from kohagit: Bug 22692: Check for patron using cardnumber and userid <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]0123c666bb8e84085> |
| 13:48 |
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huginn` |
News from kohagit: Bug 22692: Unit tests <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]8df72ec5d7b5d3eb0> |
| 13:48 |
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huginn` |
News from kohagit: Bug 22478: Fix POD <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]d9ed1b4491cb0796a> |
| 13:48 |
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huginn` |
News from kohagit: Bug 22542: Force back button to display personal data <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]aef080588b7d091bf> |
| 13:48 |
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huginn` |
News from kohagit: Bug 22478: Add tests <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]2ae835cc56c897fef> |
| 13:48 |
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huginn` |
News from kohagit: Bug 22478: Prevent XSS vulnerabilities when pagination appears <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]089b21cfd9dc02997> |
| 13:48 |
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ashimema |
ah.. ok |
| 13:48 |
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ashimema |
no idea then I'm afraid :( |
| 13:48 |
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m23 |
"problem Oracle" |
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koha-jenkins |
Project Koha_18.11_D9 build #79: SUCCESS in 26 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]Koha_18.11_D9/79/ |
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koha-jenkins |
Project Koha_18.11_U18 build #73: SUCCESS in 35 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]oha_18.11_U18/73/ |
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koha-jenkins |
Project Koha_18.11_D8 build #77: SUCCESS in 39 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]Koha_18.11_D8/77/ |
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cait |
m23: try to turn elasticsesarchof in your config |
| 14:15 |
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cait |
destroy and start over |
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cait |
rangi said you can't install with elastic right now, missing ppa |
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m23 |
cait Already tried. Destroyed, ES off. But no luck :-( |
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cait |
:( |
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m23 |
cait It's some problem with ssh keys for access to devbox. |
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koha-jenkins |
Project Koha_Master_D9 build #721: SUCCESS in 28 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]ha_Master_D9/721/ |
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ashimema |
caroline_catlady: around? |
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caroline_catlady |
hi! |
| 14:33 |
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ashimema |
:) |
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cait |
ashimema++ |
| 14:34 |
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ashimema |
just been running an idea around for a new page on k-c.org and wanted to run the content past you (and wizzyrea once she's about) |
| 14:34 |
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cait |
caroline_catlady: caramelized brown bread icecream. |
| 14:34 |
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ashimema |
https://mensuel.framapad.org/p/SlwLSSje2d |
| 14:34 |
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cait |
suffer with me :) |
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caroline_catlady |
hehe! I have no idea what caramelized brown bread is |
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cait |
i don't have either... but I want to find out! |
| 14:35 |
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ashimema |
it's a response to marcelr's comment on bug 21626 |
| 14:35 |
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cait |
ashimema++ |
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huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=21626 enhancement, P5 - low, 19.05, martin.renvoize, Needs Signoff , Add 'current maintenance team' to the 'Koha team' page |
| 14:35 |
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cait |
# both slip patches! |
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ashimema |
does sound like amazing grub |
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caroline_catlady |
In my mind it's something like toasted whole wheat bread with honey on top |
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ashimema |
icecream obsessed.. you'll go far here... hehe |
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caroline_catlady |
ashimema: what # is marcelr's comment? |
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ashimema |
has you seen the bug? |
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caroline_catlady |
I haven't applied the patch, but I can take a look |
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ashimema |
there's screenshots on it ;) |
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caroline_catlady |
(better than trying to figure out wth is going on with ebbok lending ugh -_-) |
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ashimema |
https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]ment.cgi?id=88885 |
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ashimema |
basically, I put two teams next to each other.. the 'current maintanence team' on the right with the 'version release team' on the left |
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ashimema |
marcelr found it confusing listing two.. |
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ashimema |
so far the best solution I've come up with is to either add a small description as to the two teams roles on that page.. or link out to the community wbsite page containing such a description of the two teams listed |
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caroline_catlady |
So right now, what is shown, the left column? |
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caroline_catlady |
I think what is confusing in the sreenshot is that the names are the same, so it's not clear what is what |
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ashimema |
right now.. as in without the patches at all? |
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caroline_catlady |
yes |
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koha-jenkins |
Project Koha_Master_U18 build #216: SUCCESS in 36 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]a_Master_U18/216/ |
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ashimema |
without the patches at all what you see on the about page is just one team.. the one that was responsible during the initial development of that particular koha version |
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caroline_catlady |
the maintenance team should be only release maintainers? |
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ashimema |
no mention of whose maintaining it 'now' |
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caroline_catlady |
like release manager should not be in current maintenance team, no? |
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ashimema |
I think it's the whole team.. SO/QA and RM all have to work through the bugs before they hit the RMaints |
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ashimema |
that screenshot isn't great as it has the same team for both.. I only just noticed that |
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ashimema |
in reality there's overlap but usually the actual teams are fairly distinct |
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ashimema |
very occasionally a bug is only in a maint version so it doesn't hit the RM.. but in my experience so far that is rare.. more commonly the fix goes into master and then gets ported backwards by the rmaints |
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caroline_catlady |
ok |
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ashimema |
maybe it's just me who always found it confusing that the about page lists a team of people who are often not responsible at all for the koha you're running now.. |
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caroline_catlady |
So the left column is the people who worked on the version the user is using, and the right column is the people working on the next version? |
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ashimema |
to me.. it's almost more helpful to know who the current maintenance team as it gives you people to approach for help.. for example |
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ashimema |
yeah.. that's pretty much it |
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caroline_catlady |
I like the idea of showcasing both teams |
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alreadygone |
oleonard, want me to help you with 14546 |
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caroline_catlady |
But I would maybe change the list (release maintainers only in current maintenance team for example) |
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caroline_catlady |
And I think a mini paragraph explaining what each team does would be good for people who have no idea what release team and maintenance team do |
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koha-jenkins |
Project Koha_Master_D8 build #230: SUCCESS in 41 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]ha_Master_D8/230/ |
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oleonard |
Oak, of course you're welcome to submit patches. What do you have in mind? |
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caroline_catlady |
what do you think? |
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* ashimema |
is thinking |
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ashimema |
I think that screenshot it outdated.. I'm sure I've split the teams more nicely since |
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* ashimema |
is just checking that |
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caroline_catlady |
Il try applying the patch |
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Oak |
I'd love to incorporate CSS Grid where possible. So to decrease dependency on any 3rd party 'framework'. |
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oleonard |
Oak: That's contrary to the direction we've been going... We're using Bootstrap in both OPAC and staff client. |
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Oak |
Well. Okay. |
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Oak |
Bootstrap 4 then. I can help with migration if we are not on it already. |
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oleonard |
Bug 20168 |
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huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=20168 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , Update of the OPAC bootstrap template to bootstrap v4 |
| 14:58 |
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oleonard |
it looked like someone was going to take that on, but there hasn't been any word since |
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oleonard |
Oak is there a reason you want to avoid frameworks? |
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Oak |
Case in point: the _insert_name_here_ needs to be upgraded to version x of the framework. |
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caroline_catlady |
ugh, I think it's been too long since I applied bz patches |
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Oak |
Whereas, standards are forever :) |
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Oak |
But, no need to make drastic changes. Bootstrap upgrade is not that hard. |
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oleonard |
They're not forever. Table layout got upgraded to CSS layout with floats. CSS layout with floats will get upgraded to flexbox or grids |
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pastebot |
"caroline_catlady" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "I did git bz apply 21626 and it gave me" (14 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/2657 |
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ashimema |
ooh. fun |
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ashimema |
not seen that before |
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ashimema |
let me clean it up a bit more first caroline_catlady |
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caroline_catlady |
ok thx |
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ashimema |
looks like some of the distinctions between teams have got lost during rebases |
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ashimema |
but either way.. do you think it's a good idea to have a description of how the release teams work on the main website? |
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caroline_catlady |
Not sure, I think I would just put it there (in the about section) and we already have a section on who does what and the cycle I think |
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ashimema |
okies, thanks :) |
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* oleonard |
is very frustrated that this page implies the plugin can do something it can't. http://multiple-select.wenzhix[…]/getting-started/ |
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oleonard |
..specifically... using json as a datasource doesn't work |
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* oleonard |
is just complaining |
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cait |
where is the error in the last mail to the mailing list? |
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oleonard |
Good question |
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cait |
just checking... so it's not me :) |
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Oak |
I meant in the sense, these properties don't disappear... mostly; they are supported by browsers. Just that better ones get added to simplify doing things. Like floats are not gone. We still use floats in places, we just don't use them for layouts anymore. And there are no security concerns associates with it. |
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Oak |
However, |
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Oak |
I'm not sure if it'll be a good idea to expect from patrons to have an upgraded browser to support modern code. |
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Oak |
Bootstrap is just CSS too. And sure it takes care of lots of browser quirks. |
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Oak |
So I take back my silly comment. |
| 15:35 |
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caroline_catlady |
cait, did you ever asked around re: bug 21270 ? |
| 15:35 |
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huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=21270 minor, P5 - low, ---, philippe.blouin, In Discussion , Not finding what you're looking for displaying uselessly |
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cait |
caroline_catlady: i think that one slipped through :( |
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cait |
or more i did but got no replies ont hat bu |
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cait |
g |
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caroline_catlady |
I stumbled upon it because a client had the problem |
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caroline_catlady |
they had ill turned on, but anonymous suggestions turned off and there was no link... |
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ashimema |
https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]ment.cgi?id=89253 |
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ashimema |
is that clearer caroline , cait ? |
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cait |
Koah not koha :) |
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cait |
and maintenance |
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cait |
heh |
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cait |
of your currently installed Koha version maybe? |
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cait |
otherwise yep |
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ashimema |
it's also re-ordered the members of the teams beneath the titles |
| 16:00 |
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ashimema |
did you spot that.. |
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ashimema |
like the 'current maintanence team' now display your rmaint at the top instead of the rm and only displays the one relevant to your version.. not the other current ones |
| 16:01 |
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ashimema |
does that seem reasonable |
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cait |
hm why is translation manager missing? |
| 16:01 |
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ashimema |
and.. thanks for the spelling fixes |
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cait |
on the right |
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ashimema |
good question.. I may have missed it in the template |
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ashimema |
oh.. not template then.. source data |
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cait |
i like the maintainers |
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cait |
but maybe we shoudl list the version somewhere to make it clearer? |
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caroline_catlady |
I like |
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ashimema |
I also think it's worth adding dates to the current maintanence team |
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cait |
i wonder if we shoudl list all maints on top |
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caroline_catlady |
fix capitalization? Documentation Team -> Documentation team |
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ashimema |
:) |
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cait |
same for manager |
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ashimema |
oh.. that came from the original templates :) |
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caroline_catlady |
sorry! |
| 16:04 |
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ashimema |
but nows as good a time as any to fix that |
| 16:04 |
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ashimema |
no.. all good :) |
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caroline_catlady |
the source is the wiki? |
| 16:05 |
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ashimema |
for the teams.. now that's complicated ;) |
| 16:06 |
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caroline_catlady |
I like things alphabetized, but if the source is not alphabetized don't worry about it |
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ashimema |
the koha-community release notes pages, release notes in the installs, wiki pages and release-tools repository which contains a list too... they ALL dissagree with each other |
| 16:06 |
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caroline_catlady |
eesh |
| 16:06 |
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ashimema |
indeed |
| 16:07 |
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ashimema |
role or name alphabetized |
| 16:07 |
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ashimema |
I think the roles were in a particular order deliberately |
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caroline_catlady |
last name alphabetized within a role |
| 16:07 |
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ashimema |
names I'd be happy to sort |
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ashimema |
:) |
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cait |
translations |
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cait |
name sorting works |
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cait |
role sorting not :) |
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* ashimema |
needs to write notes for all this feedback somewhere.. he needs to scarper to be a cub leader shortly |
| 16:07 |
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cait |
so a sensible order is nice without a-z |
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cait |
taking my tired brain home - talk to you all later |
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caroline_catlady |
good luck with the cubs! |
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ashimema |
ta :) |
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caroline_catlady |
ashimema: want me to add the feedback as a comment? |
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caroline_catlady |
in the bug |
| 16:09 |
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ashimema |
litter picking and geocaching tonight |
| 16:09 |
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ashimema |
i'm sure they'll enjoy it |
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caroline_catlady |
nice! |
| 16:09 |
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ashimema |
that would be great.. then I can make sure I do it all |
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caroline_catlady |
ok! |
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* ashimema |
runs off.. thanks guys :) |
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rangi |
morning |
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cait |
morning |
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caroline_catlady |
morning rangi! |
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rangi |
hey caroline_catlady :) |
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cait |
caroline_catlady is to blame for me thinking about icecream all day long! |
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rangi |
heh |
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ashimema |
Haha |
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ashimema |
Morning rangi |
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ashimema |
Evening other hemisphere |
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rangi |
heh |
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caroline_catlady |
I'm suffering too ;) |
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* caroline_catlady |
found out what caramelized brown bread was |
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caroline_catlady |
anything caramelized is bound to be delicious |
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cait |
that's a good rule |
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cait |
add a little salt... heavenyl |
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* ashimema |
salivates |
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* andreashm |
just logged on. interesting first line =) |
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caroline_catlady |
XD |
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cait |
:) |
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ashimema |
Lol |
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ashimema |
Hope we didn't scare Oak away |
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cait |
why? |
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cait |
with icecream? |
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ashimema |
Hehe |
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caroline_catlady |
good night everyone! |
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lavamind |
I learned this week that our academic library will be switching to Koha! (from an old version of Symphony) |
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lavamind |
migration project is launching in 2 weeks |
