IRC log for #koha, 2019-01-28

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02:32 sen zb: yep, restarting apache fixed it, I assume because one of the /etc/koha/apache-*.conf that are Included in the apache config changed during the upgrade, but I didn't dig into it much more once it was working.
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02:47 testme hi
02:47 wahanui que tal, testme
02:51 testme good day
02:52 testme anynone can help for sip2 issue?
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06:44 magnuse \o/
06:52 cait morning #koha
06:59 magnuse kia ora cait
07:01 magnuse or should that be " maidin mhaith"?
07:13 zb cait: i followed https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]a_on_ubuntu_-_git (in an ubuntu 18.04 lxc container)
07:14 cait hm pretty old Ubuntu
07:14 cait don't use that
07:14 cait this si without packages
07:14 zb hmm, not actually sure if it was that :P have to check
07:15 cait what are you installing or? testing or dev? production?
07:15 zb 18.04 lts is what i have at work, but that was home, so might be newest
07:16 zb testing
07:16 testme hi, can anyone help us to with SIP2 issue. koha version 17.11. looks like we are unable to connect two machines with koha. It works with only one machine. FYI we have 2 machines (selfcheck and book drop), it will drop both connection if we try to connect both machines at one time. Any idea?
07:16 cait these should be better: https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]ubuntu_-_packages
07:16 zb ok, have to try those :)
07:16 cait there is also kohadevbox for testing
07:16 cait it's a dev setup, but easy to install
07:17 cait
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07:39 marcelr hi #koha
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07:41 reiveune hello
07:41 wahanui kia ora, reiveune
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07:47 fridolin hi there
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08:01 alex_a_ bonjour
08:01 wahanui salut, alex_a_
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09:05 tcohen bonjour
09:05 wahanui kia ora, tcohen
09:10 * cait waves
09:18 tcohen hi
09:19 magnuse testme: there is a setting in /etc/koha/sites/<instance>/SIPconfig.xml: min_servers='1'
09:19 magnuse try increasing that number to at least 2
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10:43 tuxayo Hi Koha!
10:43 wahanui it has been said that Hi Koha! is there a table in which i can see if a borrower has borrowed any books (or if library lended out any books) ?
10:44 tuxayo wahanui: good bot
10:44 wahanui thanks tuxayo :)
10:44 tuxayo /s
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11:59 ere Hey! If anyone's interested in Z39.50/SRU server that works with Elasticsearch, please take a look at bug 13937 and sign off if possible. :) It would be nice to get it in as otherwise Zebra is still needed for Z39.50/SRU.
11:59 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=13937 new feature, P5 - low, ---, ere.maijala, Needs Signoff , Add a search backend agnostic Z39.50/SRU daemon that can inject item status MARC subfields
11:59 kidclamp hi ere
12:01 ere hi kidclamp!
12:11 * cait waves at ere
12:11 cait you sensed that I just sent[…]-conquers-finland to the coworkers, right? :)
12:11 cait ere: did you see my last comment on the bug?
12:12 paxed is anyone actually using rancor in production?
12:13 kidclamp we have sevearl partners using it paxed
12:14 cait paxed: we have a library using it
12:14 cait they do a lot of long notes... and really like it for that
12:15 paxed one of our library consortiums tested it. didn't actually use it, because eg. bug 16251, bug 16232, and more i couldn't quickly find bug numbers for
12:15 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=16251 major, P1 - high, ---, jweaver, NEW , Material type is not correctly set for Rancor 008 widget
12:15 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=16232 minor, P5 - low, ---, jweaver, NEW , Edit as new (duplicate) doesn't work correctly with Rancor
12:15 ere cait: Yeah, and forgot about it. I updated the title, but I wouldn't go splitting it now as it would mean reverting a lot of cleanup on the original code and/or making the second part really tiny.
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12:21 * andreashm waves
12:24 * magnuse waves
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12:26 oleonard Hi all
12:27 magnuse hiya, o' snowy leopard!
12:27 oleonard Hi magnuse! What are you up to these days?
12:29 magnuse oleonard: support, keeping servers running, swedish ill, answering rfp... all the fun stuff ;-)
12:31 oleonard Glad to hear it
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13:11 cait ere: i am fine with updated title
13:12 cait it just seems to pack a bit much into one bug - somehting to avoid next time
13:12 cait but it was already started
13:12 oleonard Too often I find that DataTables columns configuration is some form of magic, and I only get it right half the time
13:13 oleonard "It's Levi-OH-sa not Levio-SAH!"
13:13 cait heh
13:13 cait the last 2 i tested seemed to work :)
13:15 ere cait: True, though also originally the fact that it was able to do the item stuff was only a minor part of a completely standalone Z39.50 server.
13:15 cait yeah.... pianohacker heh
13:15 cait it should have been more than one bug from the beginning
13:17 cait oleonard: could you rebase bug 20809 for me?
13:17 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=20809 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Passed QA , Link patron image to patron image add/edit form
13:17 cait i forgot to add sign-off lines and now scss conflicts
13:17 oleonard Yes
13:18 cait should be quick, but i don't want to break somehting
13:23 oleonard cait: It looks like some patches weren't obsoleted correctly. That might be why it didn't apply
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13:28 cait probably me
13:28 cait sorry
13:28 cait seems i messed up a bit on that one
13:29 cait i see what it is - claire still has the [SIGNED-OFF] so it didn't automatically obsolete
13:30 cait oleonard: cleaned up the bug - but still got the little conflict
13:31 cait
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13:34 oleonard It still didn't conflict for me cait but I re-attached the patches, so please try again.
13:35 cait will do
13:36 cait hm still conflicts.
13:36 cait odd
13:36 cait i think my branch is busted. will fix, thx for your patience
13:38 cait oleonard++ all done, thx
13:44 oleonard cait++
13:44 oleonard Thanks for all your QA work cait!
13:51 oleonard cait: I worked on this followup to the DataTables buttons over the weekend:
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14:03 oleonard Is it plack or memcached which makes it necessary to restart_all after making a change to columns_settings.yml?
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14:11 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 21573: Compiled CSS <[…]50380e9714baf432a>
14:11 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 20729: Compiled CSS <[…]2381788546cb3a804>
14:11 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 22149: Fixed grammar in the manage_circ_rules_from_any_libraries description <[…]3d2f9ff48be8a0f0f>
14:11 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 22138: updated tab names on members/ <[…]f69fe2b7cebcbd188>
14:11 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 20569: Improved description of CheckPrevCheckout system preference <[…]978856bd5d1c43b06>
14:11 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 22029: Google plus has been removed from the social links. <[…]7501b9966392a3eaf>
14:11 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 21930: Reworded message on <[…]e0b4dd3930967ba76>
14:11 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 20640: (follow-up) Always send a backend on migrate <[…]d1ac28be2d04dfa01>
14:11 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 20640: (follow-up) Make error message translatable <[…]ff0c56416dae150a1>
14:11 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 20640: (follow-up) Redirect to new request at completion <[…]7fc0d0b86f7467378>
14:11 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 17353: (follow-up) Adjust config variable for too <[…]d0a4350fd55596201>
14:11 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 22083: Typo in <[…]5eb04e45835cf6f65>
14:11 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 21399: Sort patron fines in OPAC by date descending as a default <[…]ab1928d0f547c1aeb>
14:11 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 20640: (follow-up) Degrade gracefully on error <[…]a1fe9d3a6497871bc>
14:11 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 21913: Clean up payment details page <[…]793f8d94e10eaf245>
14:11 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 21573: Move lists barcode and biblionumber entry form to modal <[…]a61e5619e9ca9c7f2>
14:11 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 20729: Update style of datepickers <[…]0a44994f04aa41cc7>
14:11 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 19945: Use CanItemBeReserved in ILSDI HoldItem instead of CanBookBeReserved. <[…]9607d616f42d56f70>
14:11 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 20640: Add backend migration support to ILL <[…]c9214d97b570329c2>
14:11 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 17353: Add phone number column to checkout search <[…]e4e7ac759686b9fbc>
14:18 oleonard huginn++
14:21 ashimema anyone know who the Coral + Koha pro is at biblibre?  My colleague is struggling to get them talking to each other and I'm not up to speed enough on Coral to offer much help.. was hoping I might find a guru in here?
14:21 ashimema to pick brains
14:23 oleonard ashimema: Maybe matts? He gave the Coral presentation at KohaCon
14:23 matts Hi there
14:23 wahanui que tal, matts
14:24 matts I can try to help, yes
14:24 ashimema ooh :)
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14:25 ashimema it sounds like he's struggling to get authentication working
14:25 matts of course he is :)
14:25 ashimema getting coral to talk to koha...
14:26 ashimema I'll get him to join here
14:26 ashimema oh?
14:26 ashimema that sounds promising and bad at the same time
14:26 matts Things have moved a lot lately, first things first: what versions is he using?
14:26 * ashimema isn't even aware of the current state
14:27 matts For Coral, my recommandation would be to use master. Even if 3.0.1 has not been released yet, it contains a lot of bugfixes and improvements.
14:28 ashimema He's tried on various versions but right now it's on latest stable in Coral I believe (I'll suggest he tries master)
14:28 ashimema just checking koha version with him
14:29 matts For Koha, using >= 18.05 would be recommanded, since OAuth is available.
14:30 ashimema yikes.. looks like he was trying initially with 16.11
14:30 ashimema oh dear
14:30 matts oh
14:30 ashimema and 3.0 Coral
14:31 ashimema OK.. I'll go help him upgrade both of those.. right now we jut want to get one working implimentation to trial and demo.. then role it out for a few very interested customers.. and start on the effort to contributing
14:31 ashimema thanks matts
14:31 ashimema just those tidbits about versions have helped
14:32 ashimema anything further to be aware of or should it pretty much work as described in the docs after I've got them upgraded and configured?
14:33 matts Considering using Koha >= 18.05 and Coral master (which will be 3.0.1, it's unlikely that something more will be pushed before the release), the docs should be enough, let me check.
14:34 matts ashimema, the official documentation is not updated yet, but have a look at this PR:
14:35 cait oleonard: like!
14:35 cait there are some long column names (german...) will it grow?
14:36 matts ashimema, and if you wanna help Koha-Coral integration, signing-off Koha Bug 19661 would be a good idea ;)
14:36 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=19661 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, matthias.meusburger, Needs Signoff , Add routes for funds
14:37 oleonard cait: My work doesn't touch that aspect of the menu, so it shouldn't be made better or worse
14:37 oleonard cait: It doesn't work very well now does it?
14:37 ashimema brill.. that one's already on my list of three today.. in third place.. Ive enarly finished number one though so will hoepfully get to it
14:38 matts nice :)
14:40 cait oleonard: nope
14:41 cait but not terribly bad... i noticed there is more padding in yours, so maybe we should ty not to make it worse
14:41 oleonard cait do you have an example of a page where it works especially badly?
14:41 cait hm let me see
14:41 cait i was demoing last week, so noticed some things, but now trying to remember
14:42 cait ah action column on checkouts shouldn't print was one heh
14:42 cait interesting
14:42 cait on checkouts i have an empty entry before checkout date
14:42 cait and the last column is "Verlängern Alle auswä" in German
14:42 cait so maybe checkouts
14:43 cait yeah checkouts--- but there is something odd going on there anyway
14:43 cait looking at 18.11.01
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14:49 oleonard cait: The menu width should be an easy CSS fix, but it might require one of the changes I'm making in Bug 22015
14:49 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=22015 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Move DataTables CSS to global include
14:52 cait np, one thing after the other
14:52 cait i will try to give fixfloat the last push later today
14:52 cait we are moving :)
14:52 cait overall 18.11 makes me really happy - never had a version behave that nicely during an early demo
14:53 oleonard Oh that's nice to hear :)
14:58 ashimema :)
14:58 ashimema 18.11 does feel remarkably stable :)
14:59 oleonard everyone++
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15:07 * cait really wishes we could fix bug 12430
15:07 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=12430 critical, P5 - low, ---, dcook, In Discussion , Using QueryAutoTruncate breaks relevance ranking
15:08 cait but we might need a knight with a dragon slayer sword or something... to venture into
15:08 cait i've run into this preparing for the demo, as soon as you turn of the AutoQueryTruncate the rsult list makes so much more sense
15:10 oleonard cait is your last comment on Bug 22196 only about documentation? I don't think I understand what you're saying.
15:10 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=22196 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Signed Off , Clean up Mana KB administration template
15:11 * cait is not surprised
15:12 cait ah sorry
15:12 cait i think you changed requests to sharing somewhere
15:12 cait i haven't tested, but paul claimed that searching/using was possible without the token
15:13 cait and thx a lot for removing the link on 'here'
15:13 cait big pet peeve of mine
15:13 cait the comment I am reffering to is here: https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]cgi?id=17047#c435
15:13 huginn Bug 17047: new feature, P5 - low, ---, alex.arnaud, Pushed to Master , Mana Knowledge Base : share data
15:13 cait i think the current text doesn't make it clear that you might not need a token
15:14 cait oleonard: what do you think about bug 22210?
15:14 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=22210 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Allow organisations to sign up to Mana KB more easily
15:15 oleonard I agree
15:16 cait do you mind making a comment?
15:16 oleonard Not at all
15:27 oleonard Is there a plan for to have a web front-end?
15:28 oleonard A browse interface like the SQL Library on the wiki?
15:39 kidclamp alex_a^
15:42 ashimema sorry matts
15:42 ashimema still around?
15:42 matts hey, still around, yes
15:42 ashimema when you said master version of Coral you meant master right.. not development
15:43 ashimema my colleague has just confused me
15:43 ashimema seems he was laready tracking master
15:43 matts ashimema, nope, I was confused :) I meant development. master is the last release.
15:43 ashimema awesome.. ta
15:43 ashimema all these projets have different branching scheme's.. fun to keep up aye.
15:43 ashimema thanks for clarifying
15:44 matts yw
15:54 oleonard There seems to be some issues with the population of SQL reports from Mana. Missing spaces creating invalid SQL
15:54 oleonard ...or perhaps it's bad data in Mana?
16:07 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 22061: DBRev <[…]467db06952ab33f3b>
16:07 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 22061: (follow-up) set_password expects a hashref <[…]28c1edb1bea76c1e1>
16:07 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 17006: (follow-up) set_password expects a hashref <[…]b32289bb59bd1f26f>
16:07 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 21478: (QA follow-up) Make sure tests don't fail randomly <[…]fae8d2ca31840aecf>
16:07 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 22168: Improve styling of new chart settings for reports <[…]3b33d1ed9dd91bd96>
16:08 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 22061: (QA follow-up) Rename password_2 => password_repeated <[…]34de04d3995be1e4d>
16:08 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 15110: Improve decreaseHighHolds system preference description <[…]b114de9f3151f59e1>
16:08 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 19994: Used Modern::Perl in Authorities perl scripts <[…]2596bc78651910c8e>
16:08 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 22124: Update cataloguing plugin system to not generate type parameter in script tag <[…]4acadff0d48a846b2>
16:08 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 19770: Add cardnumber and CSS classed to patron info on waiting holds <[…]8cd46d2df8052ecf1>
16:08 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 22061: Public route to change password <[…]50dd673d10b684c3b>
16:08 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 22061: OpenAPI spec <[…]b9c58e80eab5623c5>
16:08 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 22061: Unit tests <[…]6cb28eeec08f3624a>
16:08 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 22061: Add a /public namespace that can be switched on/off <[…]ed784ac4e833290bd>
16:08 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 22061: Add RESTPublicAPI syspref <[…]6348622244963324f>
16:08 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 17006: Add /patrons/{patron_id}/password <[…]774c97ae18531758a>
16:08 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 17006: OpenAPI spec <[…]b787b2605948a1495>
16:08 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 17006: Unit tests <[…]af4212c91c6b63642>
16:08 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 10562: Improve Leader06 Type Labels in MARC21slim2OPACResults.xsl <[…]7aecf9987214ff8db>
16:08 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 18661: Made "Replace only included patron attributes" default on patron import <[…]57947c87908467991>
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16:10 * caroline waves
16:10 tcohen hi caroline
16:16 reiveune bye
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16:18 * cait waves at caroline
16:20 caroline Anything exciting happened while I was away?
16:20 cait oleonard: i was wondering the same - frontend for mana kb - it would be the best place to keep the general documentation i think
16:20 ashimema we re-wrote koha in java
16:20 cait caroline: hm I demoed 18.11 and it didn't explode :)
16:21 caroline ashimema lol!!
16:21 caroline cait: woohoo! no explosions is good
16:22 cait yep :)
16:25 Freddy_Enrique Yoh caroline :)
16:25 Freddy_Enrique Hi everyone
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18:50 cait ashimema: ?
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18:59 ashimema Sorry, what's up?
18:59 * ashimema was on kid duties
19:00 ashimema cait
19:03 oleonard Thanks lukeG
19:15 lukeG my pleasure, thank you oleonard
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19:35 cait ashimema: guess i missed you now?
19:35 cait was making dinner
19:46 alexbuckley hi
19:58 oleonard Bye!
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21:06 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 21798: (RM follow-up) Fix a few added tests <[…]e6e710cce81f57278>
21:06 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 21798: (QA follow-up) Fix Biblios.t <[…]d85ab69587e1b9b83>
21:06 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 21798: replace gimme_a_biblio with build_sample_biblio <[…]3b660df386bbc1730>
21:06 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 21971: TestBuilder::build_sample_item <[…]f0ccc29da8af277e8>
21:06 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 21798: Replace 2 more occurrences <[…]002aa9e92bdb77ac3>
21:06 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 21495: Regression in hold override functionality <[…]2ae23618ee96406ff>
21:06 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 21798: Fix another test <[…]b568aff261e3bc34a>
21:06 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 21798: Fix a wrong test <[…]99fffde170e789008>
21:06 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 21798: Unify the creation of bibliographic record in tests <[…]561a815cb272b98b7>
21:06 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 21798: We need t::lib::TestBuilder::gimme_a_biblio <[…]2c82d2cb6ea621bd5>
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21:25 ashimema Bet I missed cait note
21:25 ashimema Now.. even
21:33 cait lol
21:33 cait we keep doing that tonight... do we?
21:33 cait ashimema:
21:36 cait ashimema: I will leave the problem here, maybe we meet sometime. I've set up ILL the way described on the wiki (I think) but when I try to place a new request from staff side, I keep getting: Can't locate object method "new" via package "Koha::Illbackends::Freeform::Base" (perhaps you forgot to load "Koha::Illbackends::Freeform::Base"?) at /home/vagrant/kohaclone/Koha/ line 166
21:36 cait no matter which backend I try to add, it doesn't seem to be found
21:37 cait but Koha knows that I installed it... it's very confusing to me
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23:00 caroline ashimema, cait: I also tried to install the ILL module last week but I haven't gotten as far as cait. I did all the steps on the wiki (step 2 was confusing (where do I put it?), and at step 7, my About says there are no backends available)
23:00 caroline I thought it was just because I'm hopeless at this kind of stuff, but if cait can't do it either, I feel better ;)
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23:51 caroline Well, I'm off again for the week. I'll be in Toronto for OLA superconference. I will maybe meet some of you there?
23:51 caroline bye all!

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