IRC log for #koha, 2018-11-08

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00:03 CrispyBran bug 21346
00:03 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=21346 major, P5 - low, ---, cbrannon, Needs Signoff , Clean up dialogs in / Fix waiting holds at wrong location bug
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02:25 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 18316: (follow-up) Don't let 'fields' be undef and adjust tests <[…]4825442d2328b4eef>
02:25 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 21755: Show patron updated date in circ menu <[…]ae3ff323690c75c2c>
02:25 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 12258: (QA follow-up) Add some missing rrrrrrs <[…]8f37d02095541018f>
02:25 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 21719: Fix typos <[…]7ea028a187928cdfc>
02:25 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 21715: Ease translation of account and account offset type descriptions <[…]512d88779c1ead6c3>
02:25 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 21628: (follow-up) Indentation and filter corrections <[…]455813b1990edcc90>
02:25 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 21666: Replace unsupported use attribute with more widely supported attribute <[…]84d097ecfa6b1e4d2>
02:25 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 21628: Simplify holds awating pickup report <[…]172e1ebc8da5a49dd>
02:25 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 21015: Remove unecessary 'use Koha::Schema' statements in t/ <[…]6239cef4c7411c666>
02:25 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 21158: Add cronjob references to the system preference descriptions if a cronjob... <[…]3174b9d0c0a46ab7d>
02:25 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 21015: fix performance issue with C4::Members <[…]fe39feb94b9bc64f3>
02:25 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 21433: Update two-column templates with Bootstrap grid: Tools part 1 <[…]9213e53f1f0ee32f0>
02:25 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 20486: Add --marc_conditions option to <[…]f5d2b80a989735854>
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06:59 fridolin hi there
06:59 wahanui bidet, fridolin
07:00 fridolin wahanui: fetch me a coffee please
07:00 wahanui i haven't a clue, fridolin
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07:36 reiveune hello
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07:41 josef_moravec morning #koha
07:45 Archie^ Good Morning #koha  !
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07:51 alex_a bonjour
07:51 wahanui what's up, alex_a
07:52 ere morning #koha!
07:54 magnuse \o/
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08:25 tuxayo hi #koha o/
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08:26 * andreashm waves
08:27 * cait waves back
08:45 andreashm hi cait
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08:46 cait hi andreashm
08:46 * cait puts a big cookie jar in the middle of #koha
08:46 cait this week needs it
08:47 * andreashm feeds it extra cookies
08:48 tcohen morning
08:48 andreashm (some with liquorice hidden in them, for fun effects)
08:48 andreashm hi tcohen!
08:48 tcohen wake early to work on things, wait 25 min for macOS upgrade to finish, bummer
08:48 tcohen hi andreashm
08:48 * ere tried to grab a cookie, but it was httpOnly
08:49 tcohen hi ere
08:49 ere hi tcohen!
08:50 andreashm ere: haha
08:51 cait andreashm: salty licorice?
08:51 andreashm tcohen: bummer indeed
08:51 * cait hands ere another good cookie
08:51 andreashm cait: your favorite!
08:51 cait heh
08:51 cait i bought some at the airport
08:52 cait the reactions of the coworkers where very diverse
08:52 andreashm hahaha
08:52 andreashm someone liked it? ;-)
08:52 ere thanks cait :)
08:52 cait of course, and some hated it :)
08:53 * andreashm offers some chocolate with liquorice inside
08:53 cait you swedes are weird :)
08:54 cait this_new_api_not_koha--
08:54 andreashm cait: we are indeed
08:54 andreashm cait: ?
08:54 cait testing this for months and still find new failing test cases *frustrated*
08:55 tcohen cait: what are you testing cait?
08:56 ere andreashm: the liquorice chocolate is surprisingly good, but I still prefer them separately :D
08:56 andreashm ere: all three combos are good!
08:56 eythian liquorice chocolate was common in NZ too. Now I've just remembered something I miss.
08:56 cait the problem is not koha related... just needed to vent a little
08:57 eythian wonder if I can find it here, they're mad for liquorice but not good at combining things to make them better.
08:57 cait eythian: but nice to see you around .)
08:57 ere So, about Koha, anyone feel strongly about the fieldmapping table ("Keyword to MARC mapping" in Administration)? I'm going to propose nuking it..
08:57 eythian cait: what happened to your eye?
08:58 cait band aid on one of the finger
08:58 cait s
08:58 eythian ah, so you poked your eye with it then
08:59 cait hard to type :)
08:59 andreashm eythian: take a trip up north and get some!
09:00 andreashm ere: I mostly find that one frustrating. Not even sure how it works... =)
09:00 eythian[…]covered-licorice/ I will note that this is from the same town that Koha started in.
09:02 ere andreashm: It's simply confusing and replacing part of what the framework defines. I'm working on bug 11529..
09:02 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=11529 normal, P5 - low, ---, ere.maijala, ASSIGNED , Add subtitle field to biblio table
09:03 eythian andreashm: though it'd be a great excuse for a trip to Sweden :)
09:04 andreashm eythian: yeah, rangi mentioned rjs at kohacon in portland.
09:11 andreashm looking forward to trying it out in 2020
09:16 cait ere: our use case would be covered with your new subtitle fields
09:17 cait ere: not sure if other people put other fields in there... you could
09:17 cait if you want to make randoms stuff show up with the title ins ome places
09:17 * ashimema has never really understood what it was for either
09:17 cait i like the idea, but it was never followed up
09:17 ere cait: You could still do it with the framework..
09:17 cait ere: not in a lot of places
09:18 cait there is more than the normal views :)
09:18 cait if you take a look at all the places the data from there is shown
09:18 cait it's mostly about thos eplaces where you get incomplete title information but might need more to tell things apart
09:18 cait i was tempted to put 773 there... not sure if i have
09:18 cait because we are really bad in showing the source for analytics in lots of places
09:19 ere cait: I mean, with what I've done the framework is authoritative and there you could have whatever you want. It would apply wherever the old fieldmapping was previously used and can be easily added to other places too.
09:19 cait i haven#t taken a look at your patches yet
09:19 cait i thought it only added fields for the other 245 to the mappable tables
09:19 ere cait: And we can get rid of a lot of MARC record or framework code retrievals.
09:19 cait ah, also you can change keyword to marc on the fly... changing ht emappings and updating your data is a pain
09:20 cait the job we have for that is way too slow
09:21 ere cait: That's true. The flexibility has a penalty, though. It's awful if you need o retrieve a hundred MARC records just to display a hundred loans in a list.
09:21 cait yeah there sure is a performance issue
09:21 ere cait: I can of course take a peek at the job too, perhaps it can be optimized.
09:22 cait we found it way too sloe for our big dbs last time we changed mappings
09:22 cait talk.. hours
09:22 cait but that was a db of about 1.000.000
09:22 ere cait: The only real downside I can see apart from not being able to change things on the fly is that the dynamic mapping allows different fields for different frameworks.
09:23 cait also the number of fields in the tables is still limited
09:23 cait columns I eman
09:23 cait mean
09:23 cait i am not sure if there are other use cases
09:23 ere true, but then the mechanism is not used for anything but subtitle..
09:23 ere **currently** used
09:35 andreashm seems like a big set-up for little gain, with the current keywords to marc mappings
09:36 * andreashm went and looked. we aren't using it at all
09:38 ere andreashm: heh.. I suppose many don't even realize it's there and since the editing form is also pretty plain with no hints on what can be done, it's not easy to discover.
09:39 ere I suppose it would be possible to have both mechanisms, but that'd complicate the code
09:49 cait ere: it's named subtitle - i am afraid people have been creative
09:49 cait it makes marc show up somewhere
09:50 cait that give slots of room for fun stuff :)
09:50 cait i think for killing it, we might wnt to do a mailing list thing
09:56 andreashm cait: does it actually work for anything else than subtitle? I have a vague feeling we were looking in to it when we migrated, but couldn't get anything other than subtitle working?
09:56 * andreashm could be totally wrong
09:57 andreashm ... usually is.
09:58 cait ther are no other keywords
09:58 cait but it just makes shows up arbitrary marc fields below the title
09:59 cait people could have used it for anyhting
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10:11 andreashm yes, of course.
10:11 andreashm but it seems a kind of roundabout way of doing this.
10:12 andreashm but since people are sure to be doing some madness, probably good to send a mail to the mailinglist for opinions
10:12 ashimema cait still here?
10:18 cait kind of
10:18 cait putting out fires?
10:18 ashimema you light some fires have you.. oh dear
10:21 josef_moravec hi andreashm, the problem with the harvester deamon I have is probably because of filesystem permissions when running it on devbox
10:22 andreashm josef_moravec: ok. strange though, I got it running in portland
10:22 andreashm using devbox
10:23 josef_moravec look into log, but i had the similar problem when testing itz
10:23 andreashm which log?
10:23 eythian I think I once used that keywords thing to do some stuff with custom templates.
10:42 ere cait: Still, almost all of that can be accomplished by modifying the default framework, you'll just need the batch update done if you change it. I'll post an RFC on the mailing list when I have properly tested what I've done.
10:43 cait ok
10:47 * ashimema wonders if josef_moravec has ever considered rmaint?
11:10 ere cait: huh, the batch update script for the biblio fields is pretty bad.. it has remnants of some old items functionality etc. so it does a lot of useless work. I'll tweak it a bit while at it.
11:10 cait ere: yeah, i suspected that
11:11 cait ere: i also think it updates all fields... might be nice to be able to tell it waht to look at to gain some
11:11 cait like... we want to update stocknumber
11:11 cait bad example
11:12 cait ean
11:12 ere cait: if there was such field..
11:12 cait both exist
11:12 cait but stocknumber is in items :)
11:13 cait we have resused ean for our union catalog record number.... because we need to query it all the time
11:14 cait kidclamp: do we only ever submit the scss file?
11:14 kidclamp yes
11:15 cait my bad, sorry
11:15 ere cait: uh, right, ean is in biblioitems.. I'm having a bit of trouble to understand why some are in biblio and some in biblioitems
11:15 cait it was an early frbr like model
11:15 cait biblio with many biblioitems
11:15 cait 1:n... before marc
11:15 kidclamp cait: in this case I think the staff global was just a mistake, it should just be removed - the max holds per day i sfailure reason
11:15 cait now it's 1:1 an dmakes not much sense
11:15 cait yeah it overlapped
11:15 ere cait: right, that explains
11:15 cait lunch time bbl
11:16 kidclamp also biblioitems used to have the marcxml - was heavier to query and use that, get the basic stuff in biblio
11:17 ashimema should that be another thing in the qa script.. the inclusion of css changes
11:17 ashimema scss only now
11:17 kidclamp there are some files that are css, but the opac and staff-global shouldn't be touched
11:17 kidclamp it could be, but those just generally wont apply
11:18 ere kidclamp: ok, thanks
11:18 * ere is definitely bumping on some archaeological findings
11:18 ashimema hehe
11:19 ashimema I know that feeling well ere
11:19 ere ashimema: it's still good to know that there at least used to be a reason for something :)
11:19 ashimema I removed a db field that's not been used for 10 years the other day!
11:19 ashimema hehe.. indeed
11:19 ere ashimema: cool
11:20 ashimema I'm not sure there was ever a reason for the field I cleaned up.. I think it never got fully implimented in the first place
11:20 ere aparently there wasn't as much code review then..
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11:47 marcelr hi #koha
11:58 eythian hi marcelr
11:59 marcelr hi eythian alles goed
12:01 eythian ja prima, met jou?
12:09 josef_moravec ashimema: josef_moravec considered it, but is not sure if he has enough time for that :(
12:10 ashimema mmm, time is always a factor
12:10 ashimema well.. I think you'd make a good rmaint if you fancy it in the future ;)
12:12 josef_moravec ashimema: I would like to take this role in the future, It attracts me ;)
12:13 ashimema :)
12:13 * ashimema goes back to the drawing board in his hunt for an 18.05.x maintainer to hand over to
12:16 * eythian places thumb to forehead and says "bags not" :)
12:16 ashimema lol
12:23 josef_moravec if anybody interested, first version of the open source selfcheck Tohu was just released. It is full of bug and working only on top of SIP2, but with more ILSs integration capability:
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13:01 cait ere: in the 'dark ages' everyone could push...
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13:04 ere cait: It would still be so convenient... :D
13:05 cait convenient yes... but we'd start breaking each others stuff all the time again
13:07 ere cait: Sure, but hey... ;)
13:16 cait ere: are you going to tell me know that you are so trustworthy it would never happen? ;)
13:16 marcelr just give him the push privileges
13:16 ere cait: Of course. I've never made a mistake and I've posted a bad patch. Never ever.
13:17 marcelr ere++
13:17 * ere hides
13:17 marcelr can we put that in the quotes
13:17 cait if i remembered my password...
13:17 marcelr i never did too until this week :)
13:17 * cait is trying to reproduce a zebra search with sql and faild
13:17 cait fails
13:17 marcelr noo
13:17 cait i am missing 3 ebook srecords *sigh*
13:18 marcelr cait: did you see the roles patch btw ?
13:18 cait probably not - or i don't make the connection right now
13:18 ere marcelr: Well, uh, let's just say that I'd prefer not to boast too much. And it's of course possible that I'd make a mistake... Like the extra comma in one of my current patches :O
13:19 marcelr cait: bug 21782
13:19 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=21782 enhancement, P5 - low, ---,, Signed Off , Release team 18.11
13:19 cait only missing 1 record now... on the theory thata koha zebra catches some typos
13:19 marcelr ere: just an extra comma
13:20 cait extras are good... right?
13:20 marcelr not always
13:20 ere marcelr: That, and maybe something else too. Extras are usually fine, but computers don't get it.
13:21 Joubu @quote add <ere> "cait: Of course. I've never made a mistake and I've posted a bad patch. Never ever."
13:21 huginn Joubu: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the "hostmask add" command).
13:22 ere Joubu :D
13:22 marcelr Joubu you never did too ?
13:23 Joubu nobody did I think
13:23 Joubu @quote add <ere> "cait: Of course. I've never made a mistake and I've posted a bad patch. Never ever."
13:23 huginn Joubu: The operation succeeded.  Quote #333 added.
13:23 ashimema lol
13:23 marcelr cool
13:23 marcelr ere: you will be remembered
13:23 ere \o/
13:24 marcelr hope to see it on the dashboard often ;)
13:25 cait not it looks like i saidd that..
13:25 cait now it looks like...
13:25 cait i am not sure i am super happy about that
13:25 Archie^ ok so i have a question. is there any way i can check what biblioitems item has ?
13:25 ere cait: Ha, it does! Awesome!
13:25 marcelr cait you never made a mistake
13:26 cait only like a dozen in the granular permissions
13:26 ere "I was misunderstood. It was quoted out of context."
13:26 marcelr thats a quote for
13:27 ere s/It/I/
13:27 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 12365: DBRev <[…]6549eeb90530d37e4>
13:27 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 21770: Allow html_entity for href <[…]f5d48ed16d5fb4d3a>
13:27 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 21770: Add tests for html_entity <[…]77ca7d0a4d653a65b>
13:27 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 12365: (follow-up) Fixing broken circ rules table <[…]e74c1af03850bc1b2>
13:27 Joubu @quote add <ere> "I was misunderstood. I was quoted out of context."
13:27 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 12365: (follow-up) Putting backticks in atomicupdate <[…]d4c1e1e97d8f500db>
13:27 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 12365: (follow-up) Adding maxlength attribute and popover <[…]786d381b944bfe0ff>
13:27 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 12365: Notes for rules <[…]6d74d3df3abb3eccd>
13:27 huginn Joubu: The operation succeeded.  Quote #334 added.
13:27 ere Joubu++
13:29 Joubu marcelr: I think Martin is missing from 18.05 QA team member
13:29 marcelr hmm
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13:30 ere cait: The actual table modification in batch rebuild is not the bottleneck. It's the MARC record creation and processing that takes most of the time. Sadly it's not easy to make it faster, but I managed to optimize it a bit.
13:30 marcelr Joubu: he was not in 18.05
13:32 Joubu marcel: ha, my first mistake!
13:33 Archie^ is there a way the check what books a certain library has?
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13:36 marcelr can we add that to the quotes :)
13:38 Joubu PeanutButterWoman: kidclamp?
13:38 wahanui kidclamp is, like, the almighty leader
13:39 marcelr new nickname ?
13:39 marcelr for a new release..
13:39 kidclamp I don't currently have an ater ego in here, but it's a nice thought
13:39 kidclamp then I can argue with myself
13:39 kidclamp and qa my own bugs?
13:39 marcelr np
13:40 marcelr i started with that ;)
13:40 Archie^ nevermind i found it
13:43 kidclamp is this why I have never met marcelr? he is just someone's alter ego? /me goes to analyze marcelr 's sign off to determine a pattern
13:43 marcelr noo
13:44 Joubu he signoffs his own bugs!
13:44 marcelr actually everyone should
13:44 marcelr just another discussion..
13:45 cait kidclamp: bug 14391 - how is the permissions situation there now?
13:45 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=14391 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Pushed to Master , Granular permissions for the administration module
13:46 cait hm, i mean bug 15774?
13:46 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=15774 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, nick, Failed QA , Additional fields for baskets
13:46 cait Joubu: will you fix bug 15184?
13:46 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=15184 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Failed QA , Ability to duplicate existing order lines to a given basket
13:54 marcelr Joubu: what is your thought about cloned items subfields? see bug 21774
13:54 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=21774 major, P5 - low, ---,, Needs Signoff , Cloned item subfields disappear when editing an item
13:55 marcelr what should be the severity ?
13:57 Joubu more than major if it affects stables
13:58 Joubu cait: trying to, yes
13:58 marcelr Joubu: it also depends on how we think about allowing it
13:58 tcohen morning
13:58 marcelr somehow we drifted items away from marc21
13:58 cait morning tcohen
13:58 marcelr hi tcohen
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13:59 Joubu kidclamp: "created by" is not kept from the form to the "no result" view
13:59 Joubu it sounds like a bug
14:01 tcohen hola Joubu
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14:03 Joubu tcohen: hola!
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14:13 oleonard Hi #koha
14:13 marcelr o/
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14:15 Joubu kidclamp: patch attached to 12365 to fix jenkins
14:17 Joubu kidclamp: I am going to open a bug report to remove this silly test
14:22 Joubu kidclamp: bug 21787
14:22 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=21787 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, ASSIGNED , GetHardDueDate.t has a silly test
14:37 oleonard SlackIntegration[m] ?
14:38 ashimema huh
14:51 marcelr ashimema: i am just amazed that next is faster than count
14:52 ashimema I don't think next is
14:53 marcelr yeah but 1000 nexts are faster
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14:54 marcelr i looked also at CachedKids from DBIx but not wiser
14:56 ashimema hmm
14:57 ashimema[…]
14:57 ashimema count is cached at the dbic level here
14:57 ashimema which is why recursing count on the same resultset should be very very fast.
14:58 ashimema[…]
14:59 ashimema next gets really clever ;)
14:59 ashimema there's loads of optimizatino in there regarding caching rows
14:59 ashimema see _construct_results
15:00 ashimema if you wanted to get really knowledgable I'm sure ribasushi would be up for a good chat ;)
15:00 ashimema he's a lovely chap
15:00 ashimema of course .. Koha::Objects add a layer of 'fun' on top of all this ;)
15:01 marcelr htg will have a look later thanks !
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15:25 * CrispyBran waves
15:27 CrispyBran Bug 21346 is ready to sign off or be criticized  :)
15:27 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=21346 major, P5 - low, ---, cbrannon, Needs Signoff , Clean up dialogs in / Fix waiting holds at wrong location bug
15:36 ashimema oleonard about?
15:36 * oleonard waves
15:36 ashimema bug 21186
15:36 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=21186 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Incorrect Bootstrap modal event name in multiple templates
15:37 ashimema remind me.. when did we upgrade bootstrap in staff?
15:37 ashimema does this apply to 18.05 x too?
15:37 oleonard Quite a while ago :)
15:37 ashimema brill
15:37 ashimema I thought so
15:37 ashimema just being causious
15:38 oleonard Yeah, it's in 17.11.x
15:38 ashimema ta
15:38 ashimema I'll backport it then ;)
15:39 oleonard Let me know if you run into any trouble.
15:40 ashimema looks simple enough.. replace 'hidden' with ``
15:40 ashimema it'll just be lots of conficts due to filter ;)
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15:44 * caroline waves
15:44 oleonard Hi caroline
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16:19 Joubu ashimema: ^ bug 21671
16:19 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=21671 normal, P5 - low, ---, chris, NEW , Koha/Patron/Modifications.t is failing randomly
16:20 ashimema thanks Joubu :)
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16:25 ashimema ever seen this when running updatedatebase joubu?
16:25 ashimema readdir() attempted on invalid dirhandle $dirh at ./installer/data/mysql/ line 16933.
16:26 Joubu what's the value of intranetdir in the config?
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16:45 Guest2299 Yippee, build fixed!
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16:49 ashimema Joubu /home/martin/kohaclone
16:49 ashimema hasn't changed in literally years I believe
17:20 CrispyBran bug 21446 is ready to be signed off.  :)
17:20 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=21446 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, cbrannon, Needs Signoff , Permanent location should show instead of cart location -
17:23 thd ashimema: I withdraw what I suggested yesterday about Bugzilla being an option to investigate for task management.  While Mozilla does use their own customised version for task management, and their are some underused features to support that I would not recommend it as it specifically stated to not be the purpose of Bugzila which is to provide a great bugs management system which it is.  A little research has shown me that suitable alternatives
17:23 thd to Taiga for task management may not exist as free software projects.  I would not encourage using an opencore project which holds back features from the "community edition".  Taiga is free software not open core.  If search needs to be better in Tagia that is something to pursue but I do not find any alternatives worth investigating.
17:29 thd Joubu: I have satisfied myself that Taiga is the best option for free software task management.  See my message above to ashimema.  He rightly identified some search and navigation weakness but I did not find any suitable alternative as a free software project for task management.
17:34 Joubu[…]m-1711/wiki/about
17:35 Joubu # Why taiga?
17:35 Joubu Because it is an open-source project that is very great and easy to use.
17:35 Joubu yes I know
17:37 thd Joubu: There are many alternatives if that are only quasi free software but nothing comparable that does not hold back features from the community edition.
17:39 Joubu make_schema_at(
17:39 Joubu "Koha::Schema",
17:39 Joubu -        { debug => 1, dump_directory => $path, preserve_case => 1 },
17:39 Joubu +        { debug => 1, dump_directory => $path, preserve_case => 1, overwrite_modifications => 1 },
17:39 Joubu kidclamp: ^
17:39 kidclamp is what  I am trying
17:39 kidclamp my vms all take forever on sql stuff right now
17:39 kidclamp I don't know why
17:39 thd Joubu: I had to convince myself that you were quite correct.  Sadly, I will have to replace my netbook to make Taiga useable for me when I am at some alternative locations.
17:40 kidclamp I blame the beaver
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17:42 kidclamp ubuntu 18.04 that is
17:44 Joubu thd: there was no concensus about taiga anyway
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17:49 Joubu oleonard: what about removing 'type="text/javascript"' at the intranet? I do not find the bug report
17:50 oleonard Is there only one for the OPAC? I may have not filed one since I was correcting so many instances in other bugs
17:50 Joubu oh ok
17:50 Joubu we have regressions already:
17:50 Joubu koha-tmpl/opac-tmpl/bootstrap/en/mod​ules/<script type="text/javascript">
17:50 Joubu koha-tmpl/opac-tmpl/bootstrap/en/module​s/<script type="text/javascript">
17:51 Joubu oleonard: I guess that's why I did not write the QA checks yet
17:51 Joubu because the requirement is not for both interface
18:01 cait i think it is for both
18:01 cait meant to be at least
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18:20 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 12365: (RM follow-up) Fix schema files <[…]6c15f955e2b6e25d3>
18:20 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 15184: Fix bad merge conflict with created_by <[…]ab82c160105050678>
18:20 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 15395: Fix QA failure - filter not found <[…]9aef23822a8d543d9>
18:20 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 15395: Use POSIX::setlocale <[…]12b11851299f1b333>
18:20 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 15184: Fix TT filter <[…]fb18294912ef0dcbb>
18:20 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 15395: Do not process template files that do not use <[…]be0cd2d6ebf70beed>
18:20 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 15395: Make QA test script happy <[…]9352c5b718b36b0b1>
18:20 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 15395: Add unit tests for extract_messages_from_templates <[…]8ca0c013aada4c706>
18:20 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 15395: Do not use nl_putenv, use $ENV instead <[…]aaedaabd84ec62689>
18:20 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 15395: Make msgmerge quiet <[…]1ebdafced5fa92492>
18:20 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 15184: Add missing html filters <[…]ae8bc1248d0b4fc6f>
18:20 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 15184: Improve styling <[…]5bb4c403296b4a694>
18:20 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 15184: Change permission (+x) on .pl <[…]ffb762aeb8c1f0a9f>
18:20 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 15184: Set created_by to the logged in user <[…]2d05d924335bbff38>
18:20 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 15184: Do copy items for not a serial OR if items are created on ordering <[…]08ee63ad1126f220f>
18:20 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 15184: Remove the checkboxes on the last step <[…]356f517231e933738>
18:20 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 15184: add missing filters <[…]20ed2948c16e6ce1d>
18:20 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 15184: Add POD <[…]a12f50ed25789d8e1>
18:20 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 15184: Add the ability to duplicate existing order lines <[…]2b657bf864dce7a04>
18:20 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 15395: Allow correct handling of plural translation <[…]644a75202ec43b297>
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18:33 * CrispyBran waves
18:43 cait hm can't find a package for Locale::Messages
18:43 cait can someone help?
18:43 cait it appears as required now
18:44 cait and can't finish the web installer
18:44 cait i tried lib-locale-messages-perl
18:44 rangi it would be liblocale-messages-perl
18:44 rangi but its not packaged
18:44 oleonard Hi rangi
18:44 rangi was it added to master without someone checking that?
18:44 rangi heya oleonard
18:44 wahanui oleonard is happy for ashimema to write the release script
18:45 oleonard :D
18:45 oleonard wahanui: What else am oleonard?
18:45 wahanui you are, like, happy for ashimema to write the release script
18:45 cait julian claims on the bug it's in oldoldstable...
18:45 cait https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]cgi?id=15395#c141
18:45 huginn Bug 15395: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Pushed to Master , Internationalization: plural forms, context, and more
18:45 rangi its not pacakged in debian
18:45 Joubu liblocales-perl
18:46 Joubu I think
18:46 rangi or maybe liblocales-lint-perl
18:46 cait it's installing, will see in a moment
18:46 rangi or libintl-perl
18:46 rangi :)
18:47 cait Joubu: yours didn't work
18:47 cait trying the next
18:47 rangi
18:47 Joubu it's libintl-perl
18:47 rangi
18:47 Joubu yes
18:48 rangi yep
18:48 cait that worked
18:48 cait commented on the bug
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19:02 Joubu kidclamp: I do not recreate these ones ^, weird
19:23 CrispyBran oleonard, how does one preview a notice?  I am not seeing any option to preview.
19:23 oleonard CrispyBran: What notice are you editing?
19:24 kidclamp I don't recreate failures either
19:24 CrispyBran Nothing particular.  Just trying to sign off on 21795
19:25 oleonard CrispyBran: You can only trigger the preview when editing CHECKIN, CHECKOUT or  HOLD_SLIP.
19:25 CrispyBran ah
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19:33 CrispyBran oleonard, have we not converted menus to a popup menu in bootstrap yet?
19:34 oleonard What is the context for your question?
19:35 CrispyBran If you are on smaller screen, the left menu is pushed to the bottom.  Do we not have a mechanism in place to put the menu in a button on smaller screens?
19:36 oleonard Not yet. That's out of scope for these Bootstrap grid patches.
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19:36 CrispyBran okay
19:37 CrispyBran I do not enjoy tables on bootstrap.
19:38 oleonard I assume you mean you don't enjoy tables at small viewport widths.
19:38 CrispyBran :)
19:39 CrispyBran I almost think the organization should be restructured eventually.  Category groupings: Library -> Module.  It would reduce the columns by 2 at least.
19:39 CrispyBran But that would be another project.
19:40 tcohen Joubu++
19:46 cait Joubu++
19:48 * tcohen is anxious to have kidclamp back and pusing the follow-up, feeling guilty for breaking hte tests in the meantime
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19:53 CrispyBran oleonard, I signed off 21795, but the entry doesn't look right.  Usually it appends something at the bottom of the comment.  Is there something I am missing in my kohadevbox?
19:54 oleonard It's missing the "signed-off by" line at the bottom.
19:55 oleonard What process did you use to sign it off?
19:55 Joubu bye #koha
19:56 CrispyBran traditional: git bz attach -e 21795 HEAD - Didn't use git so because I have a permission issue.
19:56 oleonard If you can't use git so you should use 'git commit -s --amend'
19:58 CrispyBran ugh.  sorry!
19:59 oleonard It's not a big deal. Thanks for testing it
19:59 CrispyBran Yea, but now it looks like I did it.
19:59 CrispyBran :/
19:59 oleonard Bye everyone, see you tomorrow
19:59 CrispyBran CrispyBran--
19:59 huginn CrispyBran: Error: You're not allowed to adjust your own karma.
20:01 kidclamp CrispyBran++
20:01 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 21413: Call AddBiblio in list context <[…]80efc6d602b55d3a5>
20:01 CrispyBran no no no
20:01 CrispyBran don't raise my karma for being bad
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20:02 kidclamp I raise it for you to aspire to :-)
20:02 kidclamp mistakes aren't bad, they happen to us all
20:08 magnuse @quote add <kidclamp> mistakes aren't bad, they happen to us all
20:08 huginn magnuse: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the "hostmask add" command).
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20:10 magnuse @quote add <kidclamp> mistakes aren't bad, they happen to us all
20:10 huginn magnuse: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the "hostmask add" command).
20:10 magnuse boo
20:10 Bovinity Darn.
20:12 kidclamp don't worry magnuse, I will say it again
20:12 kidclamp and do it again
20:13 Bovinity So we upgraded to 18.05.05 last night and I guess the new unicode support breaks any reports that have variables. Freaked everyone out for a minute this morning. :D
20:18 magnuse new unicode support?
20:19 cait ?
20:19 cait Bovinity: it shoudl not break anything
20:20 Bovinity Any report using a variable returned an illegal collation mix error. Had to toss in an appropriate collate keyword to get em working.
20:28 cait Bovinity: that's really odd
20:33 cait did all your tables get changed correctly?
20:33 Guest2299 Yippee, build fixed!
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20:34 Guest2299 Yippee, build fixed!
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20:37 Guest2299 Yippee, build fixed!
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20:43 Bovinity As best as I can tell, yes. It seems like it's using general_ci for variables and the tables are all unicode_ci.
20:43 Bovinity On the bright side, we can put cat emoji into titles now!
20:44 cait Bovinity: sorry, it still doesn't sound right
20:44 cait and we had no reports about any issues with the reports so far
20:45 Bovinity Weird. Was fine before last night, then the update hit and any report with a variable in it started doing that. Easy enough fix for each of them, at least.
20:47 cait we've just fixed tons of reports because of the marcxml move
20:47 cait if there is aproblem, i think we should fix it
20:47 Joubu cait: did not the automatic update fix the reports?
20:48 cait not really :(
20:48 cait it actually broke a lot of them
20:48 cait say you have used biblioitems.ean and marcxml in one report
20:49 magnuse i just upgraded a site from 17.11 to 18.05.05 and reports with params are not broken there, fwiiw
20:49 * magnuse wanders off
20:49 cait the convesion script totally removes biblioitems and replaces with bibio_metadata
20:49 Bovinity Parameters are fine, but if you save something to a variable that's when it fails.
20:49 cait so you have to back in and readd biblioitems table
20:49 cait and fix all the aliases and stufff
20:49 magnuse ah, ok
20:49 Joubu cait: we could improve it if it does not work well enough
20:50 cait i was not sure if it was workth reporting since it changed in 17.11
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21:09 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 19349: DBRev <[…]d1e33dd8e56a467c8>
21:09 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 19349: (QA follow-up) Cosmetic changes <[…]8ecc41e562c7a5554>
21:09 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 21205: (follow-up) Fix column name - itemnumbers -> itemnumber <[…]f525cede496329d3e>
21:09 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 21205: Replace C4::Items::GetOrderFromItemnumber calls <[…]014268a2a1e46b3c4>
21:09 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 18507: Shibboleth auto-provisioning - Sync <[…]0f5ba469d2b4c2e6c>
21:09 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 19349: Store record's creator and last modifier in record <[…]5e7d5d0860ecbe8bd>
21:15 kidclamp byee
21:17 Bovinity o/
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21:48 cait can we get another native speaker's opinion on bug 21467?
21:48 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=21467 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Passed QA , Allow several receipts for a given subscription
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