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สวัสดี |
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้ร |
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laeng |
hi |
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wahanui |
hey, laeng |
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laeng |
There is a problem creating a callnumber label. |
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laeng |
There is a problem creating a callnumber label. |
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laeng |
hi |
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laeng |
There is a problem creating a callnumber label. |
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laeng |
Everything is set correctly, but it is white. |
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laeng |
Is there a way to fix it? |
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wahanui |
privet, reiveune |
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bonjour |
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hello, alex_a |
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tuxayo |
hi #koha o/ |
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waves |
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* cait |
waves |
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andreashm |
hey cait |
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andreashm |
getting ready to upgrade? |
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cait |
hm? |
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magnuse |
\o/ |
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* magnuse |
is doing an upgrade to 18.05 for a customer tomorrow |
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andreashm |
cait: I thought you where in the process of upgrading? seen you comment a lot about 17.11.11. =) |
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andreashm |
magnuse: good luck |
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magnuse |
andreashm: thanks! already have one customer running it, so not expecting any great surprises |
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* magnuse |
makes a note of bug 21486 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=21486 critical, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Stable , SIP does not return checked out (charged) items on patron_information request |
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Archie^ |
Good morning everyone |
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ashimema |
Mornin' #koha |
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andreashm |
magnuse: I would keep an eye on the behaviour of MarkLostItemsAsReturned |
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andreashm |
(depending on what you upgrade from) |
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andreashm |
hi ashimema |
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ashimema |
:) |
| 09:11 |
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ashimema |
andreashm, any opinion on bug 21754 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=21754 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, alexbuckley, Needs Signoff , If an item is marked as lost, any outstanding transfers upon it should be automatically cancelled |
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ashimema |
you seemed knowledgable about that area pointing out changes to MarkLostItemsAsReturned ;) |
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andreashm |
ashimema: I have been thinking about that one. trying to come up with a use case for keeping the transfer... but so far hasn't thought of one. =) |
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ashimema |
:) |
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* andreashm |
has been struggling with lost items the last few weeks yes. =) |
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ashimema |
I would really like to QA it today.. but as it's migrated twice now I kinda feel I need a new SO (rather than migrating Owens signoff from the original bug) |
| 09:13 |
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ashimema |
what's wrong in 18.05 with lost items then? |
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andreashm |
ashimema: the one case I have been thinking about is if the lost item is actually returned... but that would trigger a new transfer (if it is not checked in at the home branch), right? |
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ashimema |
I wasn't aware of any problems.. happy to try and help |
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ashimema |
yup |
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* andreashm |
is on 17.11 |
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ashimema |
it should trigger a new transfer |
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ashimema |
I think the thing you'd lose is transfers setup by holds/reserves |
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andreashm |
And have got it sorted now. Kind of. It was bug 20285 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=20285 minor, P5 - low, ---, kyle, RESOLVED FIXED, Lost item refund won't always pay down lost item fee first |
| 09:15 |
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ashimema |
but that's where bug 20844 comes in |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=20844 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, alexbuckley, ASSIGNED , Reset a hold when it is missing after allocation |
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andreashm |
ah thanks |
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* andreashm |
goes to look at 21754 |
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* ashimema |
wonders if there's ever a reason one would not want to fire the ItemLost routine after marking an item as lost |
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andreashm |
ashimema: I'm sure there is some (weird?) use case for that! =) |
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ashimema |
lol |
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ashimema |
quote 123 |
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ashimema |
huginn (IRC): quote123 |
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huginn |
ashimema: I've exhausted my database of quotes |
| 09:27 |
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ashimema |
hmm |
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magnuse |
@quote get 123 |
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huginn |
magnuse: Quote #123: "rangi: #thingsihavelearnt if there is a mad scheme a library somewhere will be doing it ... except madder" (added by wizzyrea at 09:20 PM, March 30, 2011) |
| 09:28 |
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wahanui |
i already had it that way, huginn. |
| 09:29 |
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ashimema |
thats the one |
| 09:29 |
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ashimema |
thanks magnuse |
| 09:29 |
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magnuse |
a key piece of koha lore :-) |
| 09:29 |
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ashimema |
still feels prone to error to have to manually call LostItem after any case of ModItem around the codebase |
| 09:30 |
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ashimema |
especially as they seem to often be called a long way apart |
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magnuse |
sounds fragile, yes |
| 09:30 |
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ashimema |
very odd.. make's QA 'hard' |
| 09:35 |
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Archie^ |
i'm having trouble understanding what is considered an "item" in terms of KOHA |
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Archie^ |
or libraries for that matter |
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ashimema |
item = 'the thing you're lending.. the physical thing you put on the shelf' |
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ashimema |
library = 'the building the shelves are in' |
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Archie^ |
no i mean i get that |
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ashimema |
caveat.. library 'could' be a small group of buildings if you really wanted it to be |
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ashimema |
so what don't you get? ;) |
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Archie^ |
but what im trying to understand is, how do i specify difference of books in koha that these are " items " in " library" |
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Archie^ |
ok i stated my question incorrectly |
| 09:41 |
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Archie^ |
i have a database of books from a specific library. Now how would i add these books into koha, so koha knows that these are the books from this specific library |
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andreashm |
Is the data in MARC/MARCXML? |
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Archie^ |
it's marcXML. i know that i can upload the data via tools -> Stage MARC records for import but as far as i understand it will just upload these books into koha without actually mapping them to one specific Library |
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Archie^ |
or do i need to login into koha and on login page i need to select the specific library and it should be enough |
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andreashm |
Yes, you need to add items to these books, an have one field (homebranch) use the branchcode of that library |
| 09:45 |
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ashimema |
what andreashm said |
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andreashm |
Bibliographic records (what you are uploading) won't connect to a specific branch/library, but items do. |
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* ashimema |
uses bulkmarcimport.pl from the command line personally.. but it's basically the same thing |
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andreashm |
I think you can add items as 952 fields in the marcxml record, when you import it will be added as an item |
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* andreashm |
might be wrong about the field... seldom adds items to records on import |
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Archie^ |
ashimema: i tried using bulkmarcimport but somehow i cant run it correctly |
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Archie^ |
so that means i have to modify every record in marcxml file ? |
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ashimema |
yup |
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ashimema |
shouldn't be a desperately hard edit though |
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ashimema |
or.. you're old ILS should be able to add items into their export |
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ashimema |
that's how most systems I've worked with do it.. |
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ashimema |
there's an option in the export to include items |
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Archie^ |
nah, that old legacy system BARELY supports marcXML, that's why we are migrating to KOHA ;D |
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ashimema |
it's been a long time.. but I vaguely remember it being fairly simple using MarcEdit or similar tools |
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Archie^ |
hmm, yeah good idea, marcedit might do that |
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andreashm |
how many records are we talking about? |
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Archie^ |
~ 8k |
| 10:00 |
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andreashm |
Should be doable with MarcEdit then |
| 10:06 |
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andreashm |
bug 21754 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=21754 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, alexbuckley, Signed Off , If an item is marked as lost, any outstanding transfers upon it should be automatically cancelled |
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andreashm |
ashimema: ^^ |
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ashimema |
:D |
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ashimema |
thanks.. that'll makes Alex's day :) |
| 10:07 |
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ashimema |
i'll get onto qa |
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cait |
andreashm++ ashimema++ |
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ashimema |
pqa :) |
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Archie^ |
Marc Edit does not understand russian language ;D |
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ashimema |
oh, fun |
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Archie^ |
allright, brb, lunch time |
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ashimema |
ever scripted.. Marc::Record would probably be my next tool.. (actually I would usually start by scripting, but I presumed you were a gui guy 😉 ) |
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Archie^ |
nah i'm not into scripting ;D |
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Archie^ |
you are right, i'm 100% gui guy |
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kidclamp |
hello everyone |
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Archie^ |
hi kidclamp |
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magnuse |
kia ora kidclamp |
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magnuse |
gah, i have several servers/instances where the fix from https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]uto_increment_fix does not seem to work... |
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Archie^ |
a damn i had to restart my pc. What was the MARC record for koha to list items ? |
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Archie^ |
ashimema: ^ |
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Archie^ |
? TRIK |
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Archie^ |
* 952? |
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kidclamp |
that not good magnue |
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kidclamp |
magnuse |
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kidclamp |
Archie 952 is where item information is stored for koha |
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kidclamp |
bug 21777 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=21777 major, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Checkouts table in circulation is out of alignment (Bug 21562) |
| 12:19 |
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kidclamp |
easy sign off, bad bug |
| 12:31 |
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Archie^ |
right so from what i gathered i need to add encoding ISO 8859 - 4 into marcedit and that's not going to happen any time soon. guess i need to work with developers on this one |
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* ashimema |
needs more :Tea: |
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oleonard |
Hi all |
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Archie^ |
hi oleonard |
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wahanui |
hi oleopard |
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magnuse |
Archie^: if you have not seen it, this page will tell you more about the use of 952 for item data: https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]data_fields_(9xx) |
| 13:02 |
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magnuse |
oleonard! |
| 13:02 |
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wahanui |
it has been said that oleonard is seeing some buggy stuff though |
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magnuse |
the horror! |
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* oleonard |
is used to it. |
| 13:04 |
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cait |
ashimema: question for you... can you configure more than one shibboleth provider with Koha? |
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ashimema |
yes.. it's done outside of koha itself though |
| 13:05 |
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ashimema |
the native service provider software supports it for us and we just map the same was we usually do at the koha end |
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ashimema |
you'd need to make sure the mapping.xml for each IdP is setup nicely to map the two different IdP's to a 'nice' overlapping final output which goes to Koha |
| 13:06 |
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* ashimema |
is scared of writing tests for C4::Breeding now |
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huginn |
News from kohagit: Bug 14391: DBRev 18.06.00.052 <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]03c9fd9acd9bbee1b> |
| 13:09 |
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huginn |
News from kohagit: Bug 14391: (RM follow-up) Adjust a few template conditions <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]ecec6117ebb8ca2e7> |
| 13:09 |
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huginn |
News from kohagit: Bug 14391: (QA follow-up) Correct database update for manage_item_search_fields permi... <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]379c357516937730c> |
| 13:09 |
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huginn |
News from kohagit: Bug 14391: Move udpate to perl <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]847ffe69cc84b02cb> |
| 13:09 |
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huginn |
News from kohagit: Bug 21619: Expand tax abreviations in acquisitions form hints <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]3b8d0b724a5c3a777> |
| 13:09 |
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huginn |
News from kohagit: Bug 14391: Keep parameters_remaining_permissions for now <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]8f2beea95236f5951> |
| 13:09 |
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huginn |
News from kohagit: Bug 21474: Add the Koha::Subscription->frequency method <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]574d979670e18132b> |
| 13:09 |
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huginn |
News from kohagit: Bug 14391: (QA follow-up) Fix some typos <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]9aa57e8473539b9dc> |
| 13:09 |
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huginn |
News from kohagit: Bug 21387: Receive items from - form should include tax hints <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]96be5ce8c29596b45> |
| 13:09 |
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huginn |
News from kohagit: Bug 14391: (QA follow-up) Resolve POD warn on svc..systempreferences <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]b301605a480efac2e> |
| 13:09 |
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huginn |
News from kohagit: Bug 14391: Add granular permissions to the administration module <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]2d41985c26f185650> |
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marcelr |
hi #koha |
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marcelr |
oleonard: any suggestion for bug 21709 ? did we talk about that before.. |
| 13:17 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=21709 minor, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, In Discussion , Addbiblio shows tag editor icons which do nothing |
| 13:19 |
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oleonard |
We talked about cataloging plugin buttons a while ago, and I thought there was a bug you were working on which was going to lay the groundwork for some changes |
| 13:21 |
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magnuse |
ooh cait: bug 14391 |
| 13:21 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=14391 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Pushed to Master , Granular permissions for the administration module |
| 13:21 |
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magnuse |
@confetti! |
| 13:21 |
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huginn |
magnuse: I've exhausted my database of quotes |
| 13:23 |
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cait |
confetti! |
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wahanui |
o/`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'` |
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cait |
yep... now one more.... and I will be a really happy cait :) |
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marcelr |
oleonard: somehow nothing happened ;) |
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marcelr |
but if i add a new class for it, would you have some nice styling in mind ? |
| 13:26 |
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marcelr |
cait++ |
| 13:26 |
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oleonard |
I know I had some work in progress for that, now I have to see if I can find it... |
| 13:27 |
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marcelr |
would be great |
| 13:29 |
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magnuse |
automatic renewals - are they supposed to start happening the day after a loan was issued? i would expect them to start when the due date is getting closed. one library that uses them is running out of allowed renewals before the due date is passed... |
| 13:31 |
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magnuse |
*getting close |
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kidclamp |
you have to set the no renewals before magnuse |
| 13:33 |
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kidclamp |
that prevents the items from renewing until they have been out a while |
| 13:33 |
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magnuse |
it is set, at least now. i will double check that it wasn't done very recently |
| 13:34 |
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oleonard |
kidclamp: We don't have that set at all. What is the recommended value? |
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Joubu |
iirc there is a bug reported for this feature |
| 13:35 |
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Joubu |
and a patch |
| 13:35 |
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Joubu |
bug 19014 |
| 13:35 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=19014 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Patrons should not get a on_reserve notification if the due date is far into the future |
| 13:36 |
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magnuse |
also bug 21499 |
| 13:36 |
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cait |
magnuse: set the no renewal before value |
| 13:36 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=21499 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Emails about automatic renewal sent in error |
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cait |
magnuse: only allow renewals x days before the due date - so renewals will only start getting tried then |
| 13:36 |
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magnuse |
cait: it is set, but to the same value as the loan period. could that be a problem? |
| 13:37 |
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cait |
yes |
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cait |
that#s immediately |
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cait |
we have something between 2-5 days |
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magnuse |
ah... |
| 13:37 |
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cait |
so 2 days before the loan period ends... you can renew |
| 13:38 |
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oleonard |
cait: I don't understand how that affects automatic renewals |
| 13:38 |
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cait |
it affects both, normal and automatic |
| 13:39 |
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cait |
the auto-renewal checks like the normal ones if a renewal is possible (yet) and if not, it doesn't happen |
| 13:39 |
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cait |
so in theory if you have it not set, the user can check out an item and go immediately to the opac and renew the item |
| 13:39 |
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cait |
depending on how you calculate the the due date |
| 13:40 |
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magnuse |
that made things a lot clearer for me! |
| 13:40 |
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cait |
they either get a much nicer due_date immediately (which makes renewals kind of nonsense) or they lose a renewal attempt because the same date will be caluclated |
| 13:40 |
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magnuse |
cait++ Joubu++ |
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cait |
so you can choose to let them only renew a certain time period before things are due and negate those effects |
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* cait |
hopes that makes sense |
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cait |
kidclamp++ |
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oleonard |
So without "no renewal before" set, automatic renewals renew everything every day? |
| 13:43 |
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cait |
i'd think so |
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Guest2299 |
Project Koha_Master_U18 build #86: STILL UNSTABLE in 33 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]ha_Master_U18/86/ |
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oleonard |
cait: It doesn't appear to be working that way for us in production |
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magnuse |
oleonard: from the docs: "Items can be renewed at any time if this value is left blank. Otherwise items can only be renewed if the item is due after the number in units (days/hours) entered in this box." https://koha-community.org/man[…]circulation-rules |
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Guest2299 |
Project Koha_Master_D9 build #597: STILL UNSTABLE in 31 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]ha_Master_D9/597/ |
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oleonard |
magnuse: But do automatic renewals follow that rule? It doesn't appear that they do, assuming the our automatic renewal process runs nightly. |
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cait |
oleonard: did you check the number of renewals on some items? shoudl be easy to see from there |
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cait |
oleonard: i know they used to, one of our libraries developed the initial auto-renew |
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cait |
i am not sure what might have changed, but it was definitely like that |
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oleonard |
In our production system, running 17.11.10, we have automatic renewals with no "no renewal before" value set for any item type. An item I checked out on 2018-10-12 has been automatically renewed once, on 2018-10-26 |
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Joubu |
cait: I think bug 14391 caused the last Jenkins failure |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=14391 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Pushed to Master , Granular permissions for the administration module |
| 13:49 |
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Joubu |
https://jenkins.koha-community[…]18/86/consoleFull |
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oleonard |
That matches our 14 day checkout period. |
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andreashm |
we have a ridiculous high numer for no renewals before |
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Joubu |
cait: koha_1 | An element could not be located on the page using the given search parameters: //div[@class="main container-fluid"]//a[contains(@href, "/admin/categories.pl")],xpath at /kohadevbox/koha/t/lib/Selenium.pm line 160. |
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Joubu |
cait: koha_1 | SCREENSHOT: https://framapic.org/2vzFPRMkHvyA/pSVycziXstLI |
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Archie^ |
am i am the only one who has a "column_23" in table branches? |
| 13:50 |
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Joubu |
the link "Patron categories" is not displayed |
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magnuse |
oleonard: i don't know how it behaves with a 2-5 day value for "no renewal before", but i will find out :-) |
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Guest2299 |
Project Koha_Master_D8 build #93: STILL UNSTABLE in 38 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]oha_Master_D8/93/ |
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magnuse |
andreashm: how high is ridiculous, and how does it behave then? |
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oleonard |
The issue we're having with automatic renewals is that the "item due" notice seems to go out *just* before the automatic renewal goes through :P |
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andreashm |
magnuse: 999 |
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andreashm |
It doesn't renew until the due date |
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andreashm |
I'm not sure why we don't have 0 instead. Should be the same result |
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oleonard |
Archie^: I hope you're the only one :| |
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Archie^ |
can someone check? ;D don't remember me creating it |
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oleonard |
Archie^: I don't. |
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Archie^ |
cool then it's safe to remove. Tnx oleonard |
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* cait |
waves |
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cait |
Joubu: UGH |
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cait |
magnuse: andreashm: the difference could be something like "" vs. NULL vs. 9 |
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cait |
um 0 |
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cait |
Joubu: i will look into fixing it after the meeting |
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kidclamp |
I got it cait, easy fix |
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cait |
ok thx! |
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cait |
another typo? |
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andreashm |
cait: yeah, possibly |
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cait |
meeting now? |
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andreashm |
meeting? |
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cait |
next meetings? |
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cait |
irc meetings? |
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oleonard |
Yeah I could meeting. |
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huginn |
News from kohagit: Bug 14391: (follow-up) check for correct patron categories permission <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]4c1a74a238275fe1c> |
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cait |
hm wahanui |
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andreashm |
sleeping on the job wahanui? |
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kidclamp |
#startmeeting General IRC meeting 7 November 2018 |
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huginn |
Meeting started Wed Nov 7 14:03:50 2018 UTC. The chair is kidclamp. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. |
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huginn |
Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. |
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Topic for #koha is now (Meeting topic: General IRC meeting 7 November 2018) |
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huginn |
The meeting name has been set to 'general_irc_meeting_7_november_2018' |
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kidclamp |
#topic Introductions |
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Topic for #koha is now Introductions (Meeting topic: General IRC meeting 7 November 2018) |
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cait |
#info Katrin Fischer, BSZ, Germany |
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Joubu |
#info Jonathan Druart |
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ashimema |
#info Martin Renvoize - PTFS Europe |
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kidclamp |
#info Nick Clemens, ByWaterSolutions |
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andreashm |
#info Andreas Hedström Mace, Stockholm University Library |
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kidclamp |
#chair cait |
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huginn |
Current chairs: cait kidclamp |
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kidclamp |
#chair Joubu |
| 14:04 |
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huginn |
Current chairs: Joubu cait kidclamp |
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georgew |
#info George Williams, Northeast Kansas Library System |
| 14:04 |
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Joubu |
qa_team? |
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Joubu |
wahanui: ? |
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wahanui |
i don't know, joubu |
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AndrewIsh |
#info Andrew Isherwood, PTFS Europe |
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Joubu |
rmaints? |
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wahanui |
hmmm... rmaints is ashimema and fridolin are the rmaints |
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Joubu |
wahanui: qa_team? |
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wahanui |
joubu: wish i knew |
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fridolin |
#info Fridolin Somers, Biblibre France |
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fridolin |
hé bonjour |
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cait |
memory loss? |
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cait |
Rmaints? |
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wahanui |
it has been said that Rmaints is ashimema and fridolin are the rmaints |
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cait |
Qa_team |
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thd |
#info Thomas Dukleth, Agogme, New York City |
| 14:05 |
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kidclamp |
QAteam? |
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oleonard |
#info Owen Leonard, Athens County Public Libraries, USA |
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davidnind |
#info David Nind, Wellington, New Zealand |
| 14:06 |
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kidclamp |
ppor wahanui |
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cait |
qa? |
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cait |
davidnind: sleep walking? |
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ashimema |
qa team |
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fridolin |
davidnind nice to see you :D |
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kidclamp |
alex_a, jajm, marcelr, khall, tcohen, josefmoravec, ashimema,rangi |
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Joubu |
#link https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]g_7_November_2018 |
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davidnind |
cait: feels like it! Keep on waking up at ridiculous times! |
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kidclamp |
#topic Announcements |
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Topic for #koha is now Announcements (Meeting topic: General IRC meeting 7 November 2018) |
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davidnind |
hi fridolin! |
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ashimema |
wahanui (IRC): qa team |
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wahanui |
qa team are the real gatekeepers, send cookies their way |
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* cait |
shrugs |
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cait |
he is not that wrong.... coooookies |
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kidclamp |
anybody have announcements? |
| 14:08 |
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ashimema |
feature slush ;) |
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kidclamp |
yup |
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georgew |
koha-US has a meeting today at 16:30 UTC |
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cait |
#info koha-US has a meeting today at 16:30 UTC |
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georgew |
I had the link a second ago. hold on. |
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cait |
#info We have reached feature slush last Friday, going into feature freeze this Friday |
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oleonard |
I don't know the dates of the release stages... Don't see them on the calendar.... So feature freeze is when? String freeze? |
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* cait |
hopes that was right |
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cait |
oleonard: there as an email to the list sec |
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kidclamp |
#info Koha Development IRC meeting later today as well |
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* ashimema |
sent a long message: < https://matrix.org/_matrix/med[…]JmrvZSUhIwPPOTIQH > |
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cait |
long message thing |
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kidclamp |
sorry oleonard , i got your later and did not get them set there |
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Joubu |
November 9 - Feature freeze - only bugfixes will pushed after this - 1st draft of release notes |
| 14:11 |
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cait |
Sep 25, 2018; 12:06pm Koha 18.11 Dates |
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Joubu |
November 16 - String Freeze - 2nd draft of release notes |
| 14:11 |
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Joubu |
November 27 - Release |
| 14:11 |
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ashimema |
Joubu, you're the calandar gatekeeper aren't you.? can those be added? |
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Joubu |
yep |
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cait |
#action Joubu to add release/freeze dates to calendar |
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* ashimema |
thinks his irc client is playing up again.. |
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Archie^ |
Does Koha has any tablespace for ISIL codes of Libraries? |
| 14:12 |
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kidclamp |
moving on? |
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ashimema |
Archie^ We're in a meeting right now.. any change you could ask your question again in half hour or so? |
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cait |
Archie^: the column from earlier - only you. we put the ISIL as branchcode, MarcOrgCode is also the isil usually |
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cait |
and meeting :) |
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caroline |
good morning! |
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oleonard |
Hi caroline, welcome to the meeting |
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kidclamp |
#topic Update on releases |
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Topic for #koha is now Update on releases (Meeting topic: General IRC meeting 7 November 2018) |
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kidclamp |
fridolin |
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wahanui |
i think fridolin is indeed, but maybe not on Rmain 18.11 |
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fridolin |
caroline: bien le bonjour |
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oleonard |
Joubu++ |
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caroline |
#info Caroline Cyr La Rose, inlibro |
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Archie^ |
sorry, yes |
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ashimema |
Nothing major to report.. |
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* fridolin |
preparing 17.11.12 release, nothing special |
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ashimema |
I'm just cathcing up on my rmaint queue at the moment after spending a couple of weeks before the freeze on qa/so |
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cait |
password recovery with email is broken in 17.11.11 |
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fridolin |
i will continue RMaint 17.11.x after 18.11 release |
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fridolin |
ah yes cait wich bug nb ? |
| 14:14 |
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kidclamp |
#info Stable releases moving as usual |
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fridolin |
Bug 21771 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=21771 major, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Pushed to Master , Password recovery is broken (see 20023) |
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ashimema |
:) |
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kidclamp |
#info ahsimema catching up after focusing on so/qa for master |
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cait |
bug 21771 |
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cait |
too slow :) |
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ashimema |
:boring: rmaints.. it's good to be boring :) |
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kidclamp |
#info bug 21771 is needed for stab;e |
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fridolin |
ashimema: tell me when you push it |
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fridolin |
i will read your release note to see i have all major+ bugs |
| 14:16 |
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kidclamp |
already mentioned, 18.11 is in slush, freeze on Friday. I will be out Friday so pushing things is my priority now |
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ashimema |
will do fridolin |
| 14:16 |
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kidclamp |
Please focus on bugs to fix jenkins and get blockers/criticals/majors cleaned up |
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kidclamp |
Lots of good things to get in, but lots of cleanup to be done as well :-) |
| 14:17 |
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fridolin |
yep, had one jenkins failure because of Bug 21396 |
| 14:17 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=21396 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, RESOLVED FIXED, Missing use statements in Koha::Account |
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fridolin |
i reverted it |
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fridolin |
i mean i did not backport in the end |
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fridolin |
strange circular dependancy issue |
| 14:18 |
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fridolin |
Joubu: if you can look ^ |
| 14:18 |
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kidclamp |
#info kidclamp is pushing to master, tryiing to clear the queue, needs help in moving along bugs to fix jenkins failures and bugs needed for release |
| 14:18 |
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Joubu |
fridolin: Fixed already |
| 14:18 |
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kidclamp |
bug 21526 |
| 14:18 |
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wahanui |
bug 21526 is going to make me rebase all oleonard's patches again isn't it :| |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=21526 blocker, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , TT variables used to build a link should be uri filtered |
| 14:19 |
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oleonard |
Well you could make me rebase them kidclamp |
| 14:19 |
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Joubu |
About 18.11, I'd like to note that QA members and other tech guys should take a look at bug 21610 and bug 21526. |
| 14:19 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=21610 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, In Discussion , Koha::Object->store needs to handle incorrect values |
| 14:19 |
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cait |
save the time of the RM... |
| 14:19 |
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cait |
more things pushed, there are really some goodies in that queue |
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marcelr |
could 21610 still make it then ? |
| 14:19 |
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marcelr |
thought it was for the next cycle |
| 14:19 |
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ashimema |
21610 is on my list to revist after this meeting :) |
| 14:20 |
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Joubu |
marcelr: I'd say it depends on feedback we get |
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kidclamp |
if we had consensus and well tested I would consider - if not it is priority for next release |
| 14:20 |
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kidclamp |
what Joubu said :-) |
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kidclamp |
bug 21770 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=21770 normal, P5 - low, ---, chris, Signed Off , t::lib::QA::TemplateFilters should allow html_entity in href |
| 14:21 |
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kidclamp |
^ to fix jenkins |
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kidclamp |
that's all i got for now |
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kidclamp |
#topic Roles for 19.05 - Elections! |
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Topic for #koha is now Roles for 19.05 - Elections! (Meeting topic: General IRC meeting 7 November 2018) |
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cait |
we are missing 2 - translation manager and rmaint 18.05 |
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ashimema |
I looked at bug 21770 earlier.. was just debating which version to lean towards. |
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kidclamp |
is bernardo out? or just didn't sign up? |
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ashimema |
both have merrits.. I think I'm leaning towards Joubu's version at the moment |
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cait |
I've had some trouble reaching him lately |
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cait |
I don't know if it's by mistake or not |
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cait |
tcohen: ? |
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Joubu |
He was late last release as well |
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Joubu |
(trying to reach him) |
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kidclamp |
can we ask tcohen or someone to reach out and tentatively vote him in? |
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cait |
maybe resolve next meetingß |
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cait |
and pretend he stays on until a successor is found or we hear back |
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Joubu |
we do not have another choice anyway |
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caroline |
I vote for waiting until we hear back |
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kidclamp |
18.05 maint, any volunteers? |
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cait |
let's have another meeting for that in a week or so? and another call on mailing list |
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marcelr |
seems a good idea to me |
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fridolin |
would be cool to have someone new |
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cait |
true |
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cait |
and second oldest is a good one to start with |
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ashimema |
:) |
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fridolin |
:) |
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ashimema |
would be good to get new blood involved :) |
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fridolin |
if its realy needed i could do it with 17.11 but I'd like to change |
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ashimema |
happy to share all I've learned this cycle (and the old bregade are here to help still too I'm sure) |
| 14:29 |
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ashimema |
if pushed, we could perhaps share it fridolin? |
| 14:29 |
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fridolin |
indeed |
| 14:29 |
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ashimema |
hard to commit fully.. but lets see if we can get some new blood first |
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fridolin |
let see what comes |
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ashimema |
who do we want to send out a chaser email for those two roles? |
| 14:30 |
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kidclamp |
#action kidclamp will email list to ask for volunteers for needed roles, will schedule special meeting for vote in a week |
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kidclamp |
:-D |
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ashimema |
I sent the last chaser |
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kidclamp |
i took it ashimema |
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ashimema |
brill |
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kidclamp |
beyond that, can we vote on the remaining in a single call? or wait until next week and do the whole shebang |
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* ashimema |
thinks we can vote on whats there and just leave to the two missing ones to next meeting |
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Joubu |
kidclamp: I did not find your proposal |
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cait |
yeah, don't let people jump off now :) |
| 14:32 |
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kidclamp |
that's true - same as before, but finish the things I did not and work on community involvement? I can write more if you wish |
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cait |
+1 for one vote |
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* ashimema |
is happy to link to your 18.11 proposal for you if it's the same.. |
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* ashimema |
is happy for you to 'continue as before' |
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andreashm |
lets vote |
| 14:33 |
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kidclamp |
yes, mainly the same, except now I know how muich time it takes, and am slightly better at it |
| 14:34 |
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marcelr |
its more or less everything statys the same |
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* oleonard |
would like kidclamp |
| 14:34 |
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oleonard |
's continuing reign to include more fire and brimstone |
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marcelr |
like critical bugs and so ? |
| 14:35 |
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kidclamp |
okay, lemme phrase this |
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Guest2299 |
Project Koha_Master_D9 build #598: STILL UNSTABLE in 31 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]ha_Master_D9/598/ |
| 14:35 |
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cait |
... as a question |
| 14:35 |
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Guest2299 |
Project Koha_Master_U18 build #87: STILL UNSTABLE in 30 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]ha_Master_U18/87/ |
| 14:35 |
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cait |
i could never come up with one .) |
| 14:36 |
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marcelr |
do we agree on .. ? |
| 14:36 |
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kidclamp |
#startvote Do we vote to accept the roles for 19.05 as proposed on the wiki page "Roles for 19.05" with the exception of Translation manager" and "18.05 Maintainer" to be voted on their own special meeting in a week? Yes, No, Abstain |
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huginn |
Begin voting on: Do we vote to accept the roles for 19.05 as proposed on the wiki page "Roles for 19.05" with the exception of Translation manager" and "18.05 Maintainer" to be voted on their own special meeting in a week? Valid vote options are Yes, No, Abstain. |
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huginn |
Vote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts. |
| 14:36 |
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kidclamp |
#vote Yes |
| 14:36 |
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kidclamp |
#link https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]i/Roles_for_19.05 Roles for 19.05 |
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Joubu |
#vote yes |
| 14:36 |
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caroline |
#vote Yes |
| 14:36 |
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oleonard |
#vote Yes |
| 14:37 |
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ashimema |
#vote yes |
| 14:37 |
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andreashm |
#vote Yes |
| 14:37 |
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marcelr |
#vote Yes |
| 14:37 |
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Joubu |
Note that I ask for push permissions! |
| 14:37 |
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davidnind |
#vote Yes |
| 14:37 |
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tcohen |
#vote yes |
| 14:37 |
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thd |
#vote yes |
| 14:37 |
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georgew |
#vote Yes |
| 14:37 |
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marcelr |
didnt you have them already ? joubu |
| 14:37 |
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ashimema |
#vote Yes |
| 14:37 |
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AndrewIsh |
#vote Yes |
| 14:37 |
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cait |
#vote yes |
| 14:37 |
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tcohen |
marcelr: formally |
| 14:37 |
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cait |
#vote Yes |
| 14:37 |
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Joubu |
marcelr: I do not think so, if I have them I did not use them this release |
| 14:37 |
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cait |
not sure if that's case sensitive |
| 14:38 |
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kidclamp |
last call |
| 14:38 |
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ashimema |
me either.. hense the double vote ;) |
| 14:38 |
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cait |
yes.. please not we are not trying to cheat :) |
| 14:38 |
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* ashimema |
wonders what tcohen just said formeally for? |
| 14:38 |
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kidclamp |
#endvote |
| 14:38 |
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huginn |
Voted on "Do we vote to accept the roles for 19.05 as proposed on the wiki page "Roles for 19.05" with the exception of Translation manager" and "18.05 Maintainer" to be voted on their own special meeting in a week?" Results are |
| 14:38 |
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huginn |
Yes (13): Joubu, andreashm, davidnind, thd, AndrewIsh, georgew, oleonard, ashimema, marcelr, kidclamp, cait, tcohen, caroline |
| 14:39 |
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kidclamp |
heh, unanimous |
| 14:39 |
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oleonard |
huginn: Has cait been sent to prison for voter fraud? |
| 14:39 |
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huginn |
oleonard: downloading the Perl source |
| 14:39 |
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ashimema |
:) |
| 14:39 |
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kidclamp |
#info roles for 19.05 are accepted with translation manager and 18.05 maint tbd |
| 14:39 |
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marcelr |
kidclamp: i propose to send the patch for 18.11 release team on master; as i did last versions |
| 14:40 |
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marcelr |
it must be done still |
| 14:40 |
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kidclamp |
#topic MIscellaneous |
| 14:40 |
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Topic for #koha is now MIscellaneous (Meeting topic: General IRC meeting 7 November 2018) |
| 14:40 |
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* ashimema |
likes that there's a good list of topic experts there and intends to throw work their way when he needs QA help ;) |
| 14:40 |
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kidclamp |
thanks marcel |
| 14:40 |
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kidclamp |
anyone have anything for Misc? |
| 14:40 |
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cait |
ah |
| 14:40 |
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cait |
yes |
| 14:41 |
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Joubu |
I do too. |
| 14:41 |
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cait |
For elastic search, the next one we need is bug 19893 |
| 14:41 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=19893 enhancement, P1 - high, ---, glasklas, Needs Signoff , Alternative optimized indexing for Elasticsearch |
| 14:41 |
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cait |
i talked to Ere, he said it's the next one we need to go in - so advertising it a bit |
| 14:42 |
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cait |
we currently have some libraries using Elasticsearc, but none on a released version |
| 14:42 |
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cait |
thy all use additional patches that haven't been included yet |
| 14:42 |
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cait |
I think we should work towards fixing that |
| 14:42 |
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kidclamp |
I would love to get all the big es fixes in for 19.05 (would have loved for 18.11 ) |
| 14:42 |
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ashimema |
agreed |
| 14:42 |
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cait |
not everyone has in-house devs capable to do that .) |
| 14:43 |
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marcelr |
just mentioning bug 21336 here for the next cycle too (gdpr) |
| 14:43 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=21336 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Needs Signoff , GDPR: Handle unsubscribe requests automatically by optional (administrative) lock, anonymize and remove |
| 14:43 |
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* ashimema |
needs to get back on top of his rmaint queue.. but then intends to get back to ES.. likely not quick enough for this cycle though.. 19.05 early I reckon |
| 14:44 |
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cait |
just trying to give some direction - there is a lot with elastic and we need to get them in in some sensible sequence |
| 14:44 |
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kidclamp |
mayeb this is conversation for the dev meeting? |
| 14:44 |
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ashimema |
agreed |
| 14:44 |
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cait |
yep sorry |
| 14:45 |
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cait |
Joubu? |
| 14:45 |
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wahanui |
i think Joubu is kidding, right ;) |
| 14:45 |
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Joubu |
But I did not think about it closely, so it will be messy. I would like people to think about how we could improve our communication. I think we are missing a tool/channel to keep track of 1. the urgent topics/bug# we need to focus on and 2. the tasks affected to someone. IRC (laters or pm) and bugzilla comments are not sufficient, at least for me. |
| 14:45 |
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Joubu |
I'd people to think a bit about it, then maybe we could discuss that later during the dev meeting |
| 14:45 |
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ashimema |
would be good to agree some shared targets for next release.. I can see a few patterns emarging right near the end of this cycle.. be good to keep the pressure on those for early next cycle |
| 14:45 |
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kidclamp |
Joubu++ |
| 14:46 |
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cait |
an issue is that after release things tend to get quiet |
| 14:46 |
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cait |
losing momentum again |
| 14:46 |
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cait |
not good .) |
| 14:46 |
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ashimema |
Joubu++ |
| 14:46 |
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cait |
shoudl we info? |
| 14:46 |
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Guest2299 |
Project Koha_Master_D8 build #94: STILL UNSTABLE in 38 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]oha_Master_D8/94/ |
| 14:46 |
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ashimema |
yes |
| 14:46 |
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Joubu |
we need different views: the "big things" (who/what/when), the release things, and the urgent things |
| 14:47 |
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cait |
maybe another go with taigo? |
| 14:47 |
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Joubu |
I suggested taiga, and I still think it's a tool we need. But I am open to anything else |
| 14:47 |
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marcelr |
it didnt work |
| 14:47 |
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cait |
can someone summarize for info? i am struggling |
| 14:47 |
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* ashimema |
uses the dashboard as a part of his workflow.. perhaps we could extend it a little to help keep dev team on the same page a bit more? |
| 14:47 |
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cait |
the docs team is using it |
| 14:47 |
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ashimema |
talk next meeting |
| 14:47 |
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cait |
yes |
| 14:48 |
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thd |
Do we have no alternative to the CPU wastage of Tagia? |
| 14:48 |
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* ashimema |
fins taiga hard to work with personally |
| 14:48 |
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Joubu |
I think people did not really try it |
| 14:48 |
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ashimema |
I tried |
| 14:48 |
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marcelr |
i thought that we concluded that yet another tool was too much for a lot of people |
| 14:48 |
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Joubu |
read the wiki page as well? |
| 14:48 |
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ashimema |
I found I was using alot of time just trying to navigate it.. perhaps I need some lessons |
| 14:48 |
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kidclamp |
#info We need a method of organizing priorities and who is handling them during the release, taiga is a possibility, but we need a tool all will use, please consider and discuss at next meeting(s) |
| 14:48 |
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caroline |
I could do a short tutorial for taiga? |
| 14:49 |
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Joubu |
I do not need "lot of people", I just want few people, the active ones |
| 14:49 |
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Joubu |
we are less than 10 |
| 14:49 |
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Joubu |
... or 6 |
| 14:49 |
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thd |
I quite like Taiga except for its consumption of system resources with unnecessary JavaScript. |
| 14:49 |
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ashimema |
agreed.. only needs to be the real core folks really |
| 14:49 |
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Joubu |
working on a daily basis on bug fixes, tests, etc. |
| 14:49 |
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kidclamp |
have the taiga link handy Joubu? |
| 14:50 |
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ashimema |
not 'invitation only'.. but not hugely promoted either.. agreed upon by a core group I think |
| 14:50 |
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cait |
sounds good |
| 14:50 |
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Joubu |
thd: please stop |
| 14:50 |
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cait |
some place to list urgent tasks and for people to grab them= |
| 14:50 |
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cait |
? |
| 14:50 |
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Joubu |
https://tree.taiga.io/project/[…]m-1711/wiki/about |
| 14:50 |
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cait |
ok, ending meeting quickly? :) |
| 14:50 |
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kidclamp |
#link https://tree.taiga.io/project/[…]m-1711/wiki/about Taiga for koha |
| 14:51 |
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kidclamp |
#topic Next meeting |
| 14:51 |
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Topic for #koha is now Next meeting (Meeting topic: General IRC meeting 7 November 2018) |
| 14:51 |
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kidclamp |
one week? to vote for things |
| 14:51 |
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cait |
yes |
| 14:51 |
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cait |
quick one |
| 14:51 |
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ashimema |
+1 |
| 14:51 |
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kidclamp |
November 14, 14:00 UCT? |
| 14:52 |
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marcelr |
depends on reactions? |
| 14:52 |
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cait |
having a deadline before release would be good I think |
| 14:52 |
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cait |
we can still postpone |
| 14:52 |
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oleonard |
+1 |
| 14:52 |
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ashimema |
lets try for that date.. we can't go on indefinitely if there is no feedback we need to reconsider our position |
| 14:53 |
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kidclamp |
#info Next meeting: 14 November 2018, 14 UTC |
| 14:53 |
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kidclamp |
#endmeeting |
| 14:53 |
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Topic for #koha is now Welcome to #koha this channel is for discussion of the Koha project and software http://koha-community.org |
| 14:53 |
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huginn |
Meeting ended Wed Nov 7 14:53:41 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) |
| 14:53 |
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huginn |
Minutes: http://meetings.koha-community[…]-11-07-14.03.html |
| 14:53 |
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huginn |
Minutes (text): http://meetings.koha-community[…]8-11-07-14.03.txt |
| 14:53 |
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huginn |
Log: http://meetings.koha-community[…]07-14.03.log.html |
| 14:53 |
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kidclamp |
see you all later today ? |
| 14:53 |
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* cait |
pushes kidclamp back to pushing ;) |
| 14:53 |
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* cait |
sends cookies |
| 14:54 |
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cait |
how many hours to next? |
| 14:54 |
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* ashimema |
aims to be at the dev meeting |
| 14:54 |
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oleonard |
6 hours to dev meeting? |
| 14:54 |
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ashimema |
kids permitting |
| 14:54 |
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cait |
ok |
| 14:54 |
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cait |
thx oleonard |
| 14:56 |
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marcelr |
kidclamp++ |
| 14:57 |
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oleonard |
kidclamp++ |
| 14:57 |
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davidnind |
kidclamp++ |
| 14:57 |
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ashimema |
koha++ |
| 14:57 |
|
kidclamp |
koha++ |
| 14:57 |
|
ashimema |
community++ |
| 14:58 |
|
thd |
Joubu: I do not comment merely to be difficult. However, I did not grasp in the moment that the reason which some people have been reluctant to use Taiga was unrelated to my primary difficulty which I have had with it. |
| 15:02 |
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ashimema |
I wonder about the issues functionality of gitlab? |
| 15:02 |
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ashimema |
I've not played with it much.. but it does Kanban and assignments |
| 15:02 |
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ashimema |
not sure how open/closed it can be |
| 15:03 |
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* ashimema |
takes a look as an alternative.. worth pondering |
| 15:03 |
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oleonard |
Good idea ashimema |
| 15:03 |
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eythian |
you could create a private repo for that sort of admin stuff if that was what you wanted. |
| 15:03 |
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caroline |
if you just need kanban and assignments, there's also Trello which is pretty simple and straightforward |
| 15:03 |
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ashimema |
indeed |
| 15:04 |
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eythian |
non-free though |
| 15:04 |
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caroline |
really? I've used it for free... |
| 15:04 |
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caroline |
maybe I just don,t have a big team |
| 15:04 |
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eythian |
as in, it's not free software like koha is |
| 15:05 |
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ashimema |
I like trello.. but I'm sure I've heard people here being a bit negative about it? |
| 15:05 |
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caroline |
oh like open source |
| 15:05 |
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caroline |
no I don't think it's open source |
| 15:05 |
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ashimema |
yeah.. I thought gitlab started more open than it is now |
| 15:05 |
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eythian |
well, free software, pedantically :) it's a bit different. |
| 15:05 |
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eythian |
https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.en.html |
| 15:05 |
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ashimema |
trello is definately closed |
| 15:05 |
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ashimema |
and very walled garden now |
| 15:06 |
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eythian |
I think gitlab has their enterprisy stuff which is some sort of closed, but I don't know the details. |
| 15:06 |
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thd |
ashimema: What are the particular reasons which have made you reluctant to use Taiga? |
| 15:06 |
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ashimema |
performance wasn't an issue.. I just found it hard to navigate.. I never built up enough of an understanding of it to have a clear workflow |
| 15:08 |
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caroline |
What I've never found on Taiga is a list of what is assigned to me |
| 15:09 |
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thd |
It was on a very limited system where I found performance to be an issue which I would not expect to be a problem for most active contributors. |
| 15:09 |
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ashimema |
what's your take on GitlabCE then eythian ? |
| 15:11 |
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* oleonard |
wonders if GitLab issues could replace Bugzilla |
| 15:12 |
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cait |
caroline: i think i had that |
| 15:12 |
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cait |
on the start page? |
| 15:12 |
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ashimema |
hehe |
| 15:12 |
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eythian |
I don't really have much of an opinion just due to not having really used it deeply. We run gitlab at work (I think it's EE), and I have some things on gitlab.org. Beyond that, I've not used it much. |
| 15:12 |
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* ashimema |
doesn't think bugzilla is going anywhere any time soon.. as much as he feels there are nicer workflows out there |
| 15:12 |
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thd |
Any problems I had with navigation I attributed to performance on my most portable system simply because of a giant lag in responsiveness with Taiga on that system. |
| 15:12 |
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caroline |
cait: is it the "working on" list? |
| 15:14 |
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cait |
hm don't have my taiga account on hand |
| 15:14 |
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oleonard |
ashimema: I noticed that GitLab has a sub-feature of Issues called "Boards," and it made me think that there might be something there. |
| 15:14 |
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cait |
i might be |
| 15:14 |
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cait |
it might be the one i meant |
| 15:15 |
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ashimema |
prime example of confusion with taiga.. I can edit a wiki page and I can see that I was the last person to edit it.. |
| 15:15 |
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ashimema |
but I can't see how to look at a revision history or see what I edited |
| 15:16 |
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ashimema |
aha.. found it.. |
| 15:16 |
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ashimema |
it's in a collapsed 'activity' box that looks like a comments stream |
| 15:17 |
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ashimema |
it just feels a bit painful to use.. needs a UX person to make it more consistent I think |
| 15:17 |
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ashimema |
moving on |
| 15:17 |
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thd |
I think that the main problem for project management tools is that the free software community has mostly allowed themselves to be lured into using non-free or non-community based free tools for the task and their has not yet been a priority to create great features for the task as free software. |
| 15:19 |
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| 15:21 |
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caroline |
is there a synonym for "free software" in the sense that you use it? Googling "free software task management" returns free as in 0$, not as in freedom |
| 15:22 |
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thd |
'Open source' is not properly a synonym, however, it is commonly used as one. |
| 15:22 |
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eythian |
usually open source gets you the right results, as annoying as that is to purists :) |
| 15:23 |
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thd |
Common usage becomes meaning over time even if we have a more subtle knowledge with etymology. |
| 15:23 |
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caroline |
ok so -now- i'm allowed to use open source? ;) |
| 15:24 |
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thd |
I like FOSS or FLOSS. |
| 15:24 |
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eythian |
sometimes pragmatism must triumph |
| 15:25 |
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thd |
'Open source' definitely won the marketing battle for 'free software' which is why the 'open source' campaign was created in the first place. |
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| 15:26 |
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* ashimema |
has forgotten what the L stands for in FLOSS |
| 15:26 |
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oleonard |
Libre |
| 15:27 |
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ashimema |
Ta |
| 15:27 |
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caroline |
From the link eythian sent earlier : " To understand the concept, you should think of “free†as in “free speech,†not as in “free beerâ€. We sometimes call it “libre software,†borrowing the French or Spanish word for “free†as in freedom, to show we do not mean the software is gratis. " |
| 15:27 |
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thd |
GPL and AGPL are also helpful query terms for free software. Querying for other licenses such as Apache or MIT tend to pollute the results. |
| 15:28 |
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caroline |
language is fun :) |
| 15:31 |
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thd |
s/tend/tends/ :) |
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| 15:43 |
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marcelr |
Joubu: 20819 amazing? |
| 15:44 |
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marcelr |
or just a mistake? |
| 15:49 |
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Joubu |
marcelr: I do not understand |
| 15:50 |
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Joubu |
ha, better with context |
| 15:51 |
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Joubu |
marcelr: what does it display? I have nothing in my DB to test... |
| 15:51 |
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marcelr |
yeah i added some patron::consent add statements before it |
| 15:52 |
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marcelr |
my $consent = $builder->build_object({ class => 'Koha::Patron::Consents' }); in a loop |
| 15:52 |
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Joubu |
can you post the full working script? |
| 15:52 |
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marcelr |
sure |
| 15:53 |
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marcelr |
on bugzilla |
| 15:54 |
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marcelr |
played a bit with 100 and 1000 to speed up |
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marcelr |
htg bye #koha |
| 16:02 |
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Joubu |
Bernardo answered "Yes, If there are no other candidates" |
| 16:02 |
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ashimema |
:) |
| 16:03 |
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reiveune |
bye |
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| 16:11 |
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tuxayo |
QA question: how to handle multiple values of a syspref in the code? (future values, in particular) |
| 16:11 |
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tuxayo |
https://gitlab.com/tuxayo/Koha[…]804a66c0c9b_61_60 |
| 16:23 |
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fridolin |
see u all tomorow |
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Joubu |
tuxayo: console.log? |
| 16:34 |
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tuxayo |
Joubu (IRC): thanks, that's better than silently ignoring or throwing an horrible alert() |
| 16:35 |
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Joubu |
maybe you should fallback to a value |
| 16:35 |
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Joubu |
and print it to the console |
| 16:39 |
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tuxayo |
Joubu (IRC): Indeed, that will avoid unexepected behavoir. |
| 16:47 |
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caroline |
dummy question : what is the difference between an API and a REST API? Is it a subcategory of API? |
| 16:52 |
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caroline |
Also, are there current uses of Koha's REST API that would make it easy for someone non-technical to understand what an API does? |
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| 17:27 |
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cait |
kidclamp: need help with something urgent? |
| 17:27 |
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kidclamp |
? |
| 17:27 |
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cait |
the one you asked about earlier |
| 17:28 |
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kidclamp |
in a meeting, not sure what you mean cait |
| 17:28 |
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cait |
bug 21777 |
| 17:28 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=21777 major, P5 - low, ---, nick, Signed Off , Checkouts table in circulation is out of alignment (Bug 21562) |
| 17:28 |
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cait |
i'll qa it now |
| 17:28 |
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kidclamp |
ah yes, would like to clear that up |
| 17:29 |
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kidclamp |
needs 21775 too |
| 17:32 |
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davidnind |
caroline: a REST API is a type of API (this article might be useful https://schoolofdata.org/2013/[…]non-programmers/) |
| 17:33 |
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cait |
Joubu: around? |
| 17:33 |
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cait |
bug 21777 doesn't apply for me |
| 17:33 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=21777 major, P5 - low, ---, nick, Signed Off , Checkouts table in circulation is out of alignment (Bug 21562) |
| 17:33 |
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cait |
sha1 useless... |
| 17:33 |
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cait |
some unnamed dependency maybe? |
| 17:34 |
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cait |
... in the comment... argh. |
| 17:35 |
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Joubu |
cait: There are patches for 18.11 and master, and they are on the same file. So I cannot provide all the combinations |
| 17:35 |
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Joubu |
s/cannot/am lazy to/ |
| 17:35 |
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Joubu |
let push to master, then will see for stable branches |
| 17:36 |
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cait |
? |
| 17:36 |
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cait |
my issue was looking at the depends field instead of the comments :) |
| 17:37 |
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cait |
but now i got another problem - i have no idea how to run selenium tests |
| 17:37 |
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cait |
no test plan |
| 17:37 |
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cait |
and jut prove doesn't work |
| 17:38 |
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cait |
http://paste.koha-community.org/166 |
| 17:51 |
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cait |
Joubu: ^ |
| 17:53 |
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Joubu |
hum... some of my messages have been lost it seems |
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Joubu |
see t/db_dependent/selenium/basic_workflow.t |
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Joubu |
there is a step-by-step procedure to run them |
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Joubu |
cait: ^ |
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cait |
I'll try again after dinner |
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cait |
hm |
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cait |
should kohadevbox not have this stuff preset? |
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cait |
tcohen: selenium tests ... kohadevbox? :) |
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kidclamp |
https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]m_with_Koha#cait: KohaDevBox |
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cait |
aha! |
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tcohen |
hi cait |
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cait |
ah my file is too old, doesn't have this entries yet |
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tcohen |
diff them |
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cait |
do i want to uncomment the selenium url? |
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tcohen |
no |
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tcohen |
that's only if you're trying to test a different selenium version |
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tcohen |
not for general use |
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pastebot |
"tcohen" at 172.22.66.9 pasted "Joubu: WTF" (64 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/167 |
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cait |
thx |
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tcohen |
cait: you usually don't need to change versions or URLs |
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tcohen |
we do it the more general we can to ease tweaking later |
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cait |
hm |
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cait |
still failing the tests |
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cait |
but got further |
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cait |
t/db_dependent/selenium/regressions.t .. Could not create new session: Unable to connect to host 127.0.0.1 on port 7055 after 45000 ms. Firefox console output: |
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cait |
i did start it in another terminal |
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cait |
and running the test in kshell |
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cait |
first i changed the .yml |
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cait |
and then ran up with provision |
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cait |
http://paste.koha-community.org/168 |
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cait |
Joubu: tcohen |
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alexbuckley |
hi all |
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caroline |
hi alexbuckley! |
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oleonard |
Hi alexbuckley |
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alexbuckley |
:) |
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tcohen |
bye! |
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oleonard |
Bye #koha |
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ashimema |
hola |
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wahanui |
bidet, ashimema |
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alexbuckley |
hi ashimema, many thanks to you and andreashm for the testing and QA's :) |
| 20:56 |
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kidclamp |
meeting! |
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ashimema |
no worries :) |
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ashimema |
lets keep the momentum.. maybe chill or a week on the enhancements whilst we concentrate on stability and bugfixes ;) |
| 20:58 |
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ashimema |
but then lets get back to it.. don't want to let those enhancements go cold again |
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ashimema |
hi kidclamp |
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alexbuckley |
agreed :) |
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ashimema |
meeting? |
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kidclamp |
hi ashimema |
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kidclamp |
2 minutes |
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ashimema |
hee |
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ashimema |
did we not used ot have meeting countdown stuff done by a bot |
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ashimema |
or am I thiking of another channel? |
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kidclamp |
#startmeeting Development IRC meeting 7 November 2018 |
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huginn |
Meeting started Wed Nov 7 21:00:20 2018 UTC. The chair is kidclamp. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. |
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huginn |
Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. |
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Topic for #koha is now (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting 7 November 2018) |
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huginn |
The meeting name has been set to 'development_irc_meeting_7_november_2018' |
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kidclamp |
#topic Introductions |
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Topic for #koha is now Introductions (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting 7 November 2018) |
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kidclamp |
#info Nick Clemens, ByWater Solutions |
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ashimema |
#info Martin Renvoize, PTFS Europe |
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andreashm |
#info Andreas Hedström Mace, Stockholm University Library |
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alexbuckley |
#info Alex Buckley, Catalyst IT NZ |
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ashimema |
quiet tonight |
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kidclamp |
dual meeting days |
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ashimema |
apologies.. this morning for alexbuckley |
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thd |
Is there not a meeting now? |
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kidclamp |
there is thd |
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ashimema |
yes, yes there is thd |
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kidclamp |
#topic Announcements |
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Topic for #koha is now Announcements (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting 7 November 2018) |
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oleonard |
#info Owen Leonard, Athens County Public Libraries, USA |
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thd |
#info Thomas Dukleth, Agogme, New York City |
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kidclamp |
#info We are in feature slush, freeze is approaching |
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kidclamp |
Anyone else? |
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ashimema |
no Joubu? |
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kidclamp |
seems no |
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ashimema |
nothing from me for anouncements |
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kidclamp |
#topic Update from the Release manager (18.11) |
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Topic for #koha is now Update from the Release manager (18.11) (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting 7 November 2018) |
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kidclamp |
I mentioned slush/freeze |
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kidclamp |
working on pushing things |
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kidclamp |
help is appreciated for bugs and keeping jenkins happy |
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ashimema |
Hows the queue looking.. are you confident of getting through it before freeze? |
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kidclamp |
I got voted for a second term, will continune reign of terror |
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kidclamp |
Lot in the queue, will do my best to clean it up, busy day |
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ashimema |
:) |
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kidclamp |
I think we can get it done |
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oleonard |
Agenda: https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]g_7_November_2018 |
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ashimema |
I'll try to keep more of an eye on Jenkins than usual and offer a hand |
| 21:07 |
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kidclamp |
that's all for me |
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kidclamp |
#info working on queue, keep jenkins happy, release is going to be greay |
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kidclamp |
great |
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kidclamp |
and it won't have typos |
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greenjimll |
#info Jon Knight, Loughborough University |
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kidclamp |
#topic |
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Topic for #koha is now (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting 7 November 2018) |
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kidclamp |
#topic Updates from the Release Maintainers |
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Topic for #koha is now Updates from the Release Maintainers (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting 7 November 2018) |
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kidclamp |
ashimema fridolin? |
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ashimema |
#info Working through my rmaint queue after a couple of weeks of concentrating on SO/QA before feature slush... slowly catching back up. |
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kidclamp |
also, looking for an 18.05 maintainer - if you ever wanted to get your hands dirty, now is a good time |
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kidclamp |
#info RMaints spoke this morning in general. things are moving along nicely, a few big bugs |
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ashimema |
it's been a great learning experience for me this cycle.. and I've been mad enough to offer stable branch rmaint again. |
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kidclamp |
stable is the hard one, lots of rebasing :-) |
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kidclamp |
especially this release |
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kidclamp |
#topic Updates from the QA team |
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Topic for #koha is now Updates from the QA team (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting 7 November 2018) |
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kidclamp |
I don't think we have most of the team here |
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ashimema |
#info 18.05.x is looking for an rmaint for next cycle, I'd love to pass it on to a new happy owner (and will support as best I can) |
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ashimema |
Mmm.. pretty spares on the QA team front tonight |
| 21:12 |
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kidclamp |
Joubu mentioned wanting to find an organizational tool this morning - if anyone has any thoughts it would be helpful |
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greenjimll |
what sort of organizational tool? |
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greenjimll |
project planner? |
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kidclamp |
taiga was proposed last release, but it didn't catch on |
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ashimema |
I think on the qa front cait just wanted to thank everyone for their efforts the last couple of weeks.. we've got loads done (sorry kidclamp for filling your queue to the brim) |
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kidclamp |
something to track the big things happening and who is doing what |
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kidclamp |
qateam++ |
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kidclamp |
full queue = full release |
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kidclamp |
moving on? |
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ashimema |
go for it I reckon |
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kidclamp |
#topic General development discussion (trends, ideas, ...) |
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Topic for #koha is now General development discussion (trends, ideas, ...) (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting 7 November 2018) |
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kidclamp |
#info Internationalization, plural forms, context, and more RFC, Framavox |
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kidclamp |
#link https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]ext,_and_more_RFC |
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ashimema |
what did anyone want to say about it> |
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kidclamp |
#link https://framavox.org/d/2juWqIM[…]-context-and-more |
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kidclamp |
the frama is closed - I don't htink anyone objected, I believe he wants help in testing/implementing? |
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kidclamp |
I have not been involved enough in the translation work to know what is needed, but perhaps we should table as is light meeting tonight? |
| 21:18 |
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ashimema |
I'll admit I don't follow translation closely enough to understand that one |
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ashimema |
yeah.. lets shift it to the next meeting |
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thd |
The wiki page for the bug appears to show good research. |
| 21:19 |
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kidclamp |
#info tabled for next meeting |
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kidclamp |
#topic Review of coding guidelines |
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Topic for #koha is now Review of coding guidelines (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting 7 November 2018) |
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kidclamp |
oleonard? |
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wahanui |
oleonard is seeing some buggy stuff though |
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oleonard |
Present |
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kidclamp |
you have some suggestions? |
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oleonard |
I just wanted to highlight some new things in the HTML & JS coding guidelines. I don't know if these require a vote |
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oleonard |
I'm cleaning up the "type" attribute from <script> tags any time I update a template. |
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oleonard |
New templates shouldn't include it. |
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cait |
oops |
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oleonard |
Same for the "CDATA" markers in <script> |
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cait |
#info Katrin Fischer, BSZ, Germany |
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cait |
ashimema++ th |
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cait |
x |
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ashimema |
hehe |
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oleonard |
Also: New templates shouldn't use any YUI grid markup |
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oleonard |
I'd love to get an addition to the QA tools checking for that. |
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kidclamp |
I think those are all sensible |
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ashimema |
do we need anything in the qa script to help catch that oleonard? |
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ashimema |
haha |
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ashimema |
you beat me |
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cait |
sounds both good |
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cait |
especially additions to qa script |
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cait |
it's hard to keep everything in mind |
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andreashm |
sounds good |
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oleonard |
I think a check for classes containing "yui-" would be good |
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kidclamp |
oleonard++ |
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ashimema |
that should be simple nough to add i think |
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oleonard |
Lastly I wanted to remind everyone about this: https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]e_end_of_template |
| 21:24 |
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cait |
someone volunteering? :) |
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oleonard |
New templates shouldn't be added with JS in the <head> |
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ashimema |
that could probably also be added to the qa script maybe.. |
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ashimema |
less sure how on that one |
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kidclamp |
people who don't attend are signifying willingness to volunteer, no? |
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cait |
sensible |
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ashimema |
hehe |
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cait |
no js in head should be testable |
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ashimema |
indeed |
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cait |
#idea add checks for javascript in head, yui- grid classes and no type for javascript to QA script |
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kidclamp |
@later tell joubu #idea add checks for javascript in head, yui- grid classes and no type for javascript to QA script |
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huginn |
kidclamp: The operation succeeded. |
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ashimema |
we should record those as issues against the qa-tools repo in gitlab really.. |
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ashimema |
then we can pick them off.. rather than just adding to joubu's list |
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* ashimema |
will go add them as issues now |
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kidclamp |
ashimema++ |
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oleonard |
That's it from me unless someone has objections |
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oleonard_ |
Somehow I lost my connection without realizing it... sorry if I missed any questions directed at me |
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kidclamp |
moving on? |
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kidclamp |
just time of next meeting unless anyone has anything else |
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ashimema |
I think that's our lot |
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ashimema |
bit earlier in the day next meeting.. |
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kidclamp |
#topic Set time of next meeting |
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Topic for #koha is now Set time of next meeting (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting 7 November 2018) |
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kidclamp |
21 November 2018, 14 UTC? |
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ashimema |
sounds good to me.. you didn't want anything more regular with release looming. |
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ashimema |
probably not.. you've got enough on your plate so can just catch people directly as needed ;) |
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kidclamp |
we have a general next week if I need to grab anyone, and we have email, hopefully I will survive my first release :-D |
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kidclamp |
#info Next meeting: 21 November 2018, 14UTC |
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kidclamp |
#endmeeting |
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Topic for #koha is now Welcome to #koha this channel is for discussion of the Koha project and software http://koha-community.org |
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huginn |
Meeting ended Wed Nov 7 21:33:53 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) |
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huginn |
Minutes: http://meetings.koha-community[…]-11-07-21.00.html |
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huginn |
Minutes (text): http://meetings.koha-community[…]8-11-07-21.00.txt |
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Log: http://meetings.koha-community[…]07-21.00.log.html |
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kidclamp |
thanks all |
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ashimema |
kidclamp++ |
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alexbuckley |
kidclamp++ ashimema++ |
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* ashimema |
adds those issues quickly then heads to bed.. I'm such an old man now.. |
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oleonard_ |
bye again |
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ashimema |
@later tell Joubu I'll pick off some of those new qa-tools issues and send merge requests unless you beat me to them |
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ashimema: The operation succeeded. |
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ashimema |
good night #koha |
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* andreashm |
waves |
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ashimema: While I do not have time presently to put forward a proposal, I see how some underused features of bugzilla and some projects based on the bugzilla API could be used for task management and kanban. |
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huginn |
News from kohagit: Bug 18316: DBRev 18.06.00.054 <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]c721bc1c610a24e48> |
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huginn |
News from kohagit: Bug 15494: DBRev 18.06.00.053 <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]a25dabf4c5e2ccbdb> |
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huginn |
News from kohagit: Bug 18316: (QA follow-up) Add final missing filter <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]8256ad9ed00e33c42> |
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huginn |
News from kohagit: Bug 18316: (follow-up) remove use_dis_max <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]239f1a9388ffda145> |
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huginn |
News from kohagit: Bug 15494: (follow-up) Update tests to generate their own data (no delete) <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]30652f8766ae1b53a> |
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huginn |
News from kohagit: Bug 15494: (follow-up) Move yaml syspref code to its own sub in SySpref object <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]ef660814999fde951> |
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huginn |
News from kohagit: Bug 21299: (QA follow-up) Rename module and subroutine <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]fd031efdcd1ed0518> |
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huginn |
News from kohagit: Bug 18316: (follow-up) Fix tests and update statement <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]6d52af45169eab922> |
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huginn |
News from kohagit: Bug 21299: Introduce localReferer in [opac-]changelanguage.pl <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]3ccdc4f52474d7ffc> |
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huginn |
News from kohagit: Bug 21299: Add localReferer function to Util module, add test <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]7c95310d5b853de15> |
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huginn |
News from kohagit: Bug 18316: Fix field weight validation/deletion bug <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]f75fedcc06f4ae5d8> |
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huginn |
News from kohagit: Bug 18316: Change search field weight field to decimal <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]2127bdadd1a11ff3f> |
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huginn |
News from kohagit: Bug 18316: (follow-up) Koha::SearchField::search_marc_maps return a result set -... <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]9bb4cb6d7082a8b7c> |
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huginn |
News from kohagit: Bug 20602: Use weighted fields in OPAC simple search <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]78ab358c54820a97b> |
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huginn |
News from kohagit: Bug 18316: String changes <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]f65abeb244db7275a> |
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huginn |
News from kohagit: Bug 18316: Ability to weight search fields <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]e92d6ca5e5effdf42> |
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huginn |
News from kohagit: Bug 18316: Add weighting/relevancy options to ES query on simple search <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]cabdaaa9cc692bb12> |
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huginn |
News from kohagit: Bug 15494: (QA follow-up) Additional polishing <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]0ab57f1f942d0aa2b> |
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huginn |
News from kohagit: Bug 15494: Add syspref <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]c8d61819779fdd798> |
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huginn |
News from kohagit: Bug 15494: Update display of renewal errors <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]5121e1071b2ca65da> |
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caroline |
bye everybody! |
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Guest2299 |
Project Koha_Master_D9 build #599: STILL UNSTABLE in 30 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]ha_Master_D9/599/ |
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Guest2299 |
Project Koha_Master_U18 build #88: STILL UNSTABLE in 29 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]ha_Master_U18/88/ |
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Guest2299 |
Project Koha_Master_D8 build #95: STILL UNSTABLE in 38 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]oha_Master_D8/95/ |
